Re: [NTG-context] replacement of \...@. ?
2009/5/14, Yue Wang yuleo...@gmail.com: I think in Professional typesetting, the same amount of space should be left for all full stop/comma/whaever. Not always: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_spacing Best Martin ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] replacement of \...@. ?
Am 14.05.2009 um 03:51 schrieb Ryo Furue: Hi ConTeXt users, I'm wondering what's the ConTeXt version of LaTeX's \...@. (which indicates an end-of-sentence period). I can define \d...@{\spacefactor1000} and use it, but if there is an official version I'd like to know. ... USA.\ ... Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] replacement of \...@. ?
Yue Wang wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Ryo Furue fu...@hawaii.edu wrote: Hi ConTeXt users, I'm wondering what's the ConTeXt version of LaTeX's \...@. (which indicates an end-of-sentence period). I can define \d...@{\spacefactor1000} and use it, but if there is an official version I'd like to know. I think in Professional typesetting, the same amount of space should be left for all full stop/comma/whaever. You'd better change TeX's default behavior. huh? each language can has its own rules ... spacing after period or comma is one, but also think of quotes in quotations etc; and, the french have spacing before and after : ; . , (it has always been a selling point for tex to be able to deal with it) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bibmodule (again)
Hi, I can't fix everything, but I believe I have made some progress. The new structure and referencing code is totally different from the old code and I understand less than half of it. What's worse: I seem to be really bad at explaining to Hans all the things that should happen wrt. references in the bib module. Anyway: Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: \usemodule[bib] At this point, please add these three (re)definitions: %%% \def\bibrefprefix{} \def\preparebibreflist#1{\edef\bibreflist{#1}} \def\docitation#1{% \iftrialtypesetting \else \ifdoinpututilities\else \doglobal\increment\citationnumber \expanded{\rawreference{}{cite-\jobname-\citationnumber}{#1}}% \fi \fi \expanded{\writedatatolist[pubs][bibref=#1]}} % If you turn cite compression off, it will now work (somewhat, at least). With compression on, there is backward compatibility problem in mkiv that I do not know how to deal with. Si here is the explanation and then I hope Hans can make sense out of it. In Thomas' example, in the first run the \placepublications[criterium=all] creates a reference 'belfiorepleasure' with value '1', like so: \reference[belfiorepleasure]{1} In the second run, the \cite[belfiorepleasure] uses this reference to typeset the number '1' at that spot. Because the argument to \cite is actually is a list of references, \cite (via \bibnumref) builds an internal commalist of references to resolve. If the citation compression is off, this is a direct list of refs, and the citation essentially expands into \def\processitem#1{\in[#1]} \processcommalist[belfiorepleasure]\processitem as said, that now works. But if cite compression is on (which it is by default) the to be typeset numbers need to be sorted, and this simple solution won't do. Instead, the citation is expanded into something more like this: \def\therefs{} \def\processitem#1% {\doifreferencefoundelse{#1} {\addtocommalist{\reftypet}\therefs } {}} \processcommalist[belfiorepleasure]\processitem This only works in mkii at the moment because in mkiv the \reftypet expands to nothing. It is defined (in strc-ref.tex) as: \def\reftypet{\currenttextreference} but it seems that the mkiv version of \doifreferencefoundelse does not set up the \currentxxxreference macros any more. That is where I got stuck, and I hope Hans can explain why that doesn't work, whether it is intentional, and if it is indeed on purpose, what the correct interface is to get at the 'text' field of a reference in mkiv. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \inmargin followed by \startlines = alignment fault?
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 09:11:04AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: Corsair wrote: Hi guys, I find that the `lines' environment (or description, itemize, etc.) after text in margin does not align right. Consider the following code: in that case you can try \margintext {...} which saves the note and flushes it later Wow~ It works. Thank you very much! I should read the manual more carefully next time :-p. -- There is no emotion; there is peace. There is no ignorance; there is knowledge. There is no passion; there is serenity. There is no death; there is the Force. pgpnVkv4QZZN1.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64
Dear all, Updating context (linux-64) gives: texlua: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.8' not found (required by texlua) The 32bit version works fine with glibc2.6. Regards, Bernard ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] How to prevent header at page bottom
Hi, I have defined my own header: \definehead[myhead][subsection] \setuphead[myhead][ page=no, number=no ] All works fine, except sometimes the head appears at page bottom and the text starts on the next page. How can I specify that if less than, say, 3 lines of text fit on the current page below the head, the head and text should start on the next page. Thanks in advance, Jos ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bibmodule (again)
On May 14, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hi, I can't fix everything, but I believe I have made some progress. Hi Taco, thanks a lot for looking into it! Your redefinitions make the minimal example work; I'll have to see how I can transfer them to my non- minimal files where I make extensive adaptations to the bib styles. The new structure and referencing code is totally different from the old code and I understand less than half of it. What's worse: I seem to be really bad at explaining to Hans all the things that should happen wrt. references in the bib module. Wow, that's very encouraging for us mere mortals :-) [lots of interesting information snipped] Best wishes, Taco Thanks, and best wishes! Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 13.05.2009 um 17:51 schrieb luigi scarso: I have not look at simplefonts as I want -- I planned to use it for an article on felltypes for arstexnica You fixed the problem with the felltype fonts? On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 13.05.2009 um 17:51 schrieb luigi scarso: I have not look at simplefonts as I want -- I planned to use it for an article on felltypes for arstexnica You fixed the problem with the felltype fonts? No, maybe this weekend I will able to investigate a bit more . The problem is the follow: pdf make with felltypes and mkiv looks ugly in AdobeReader9 ---but not in xpdf with latest freetype -- because of a unsual em size. If you install the fonts in OpenOffice, the same document looks ok. $pdffonts felltype.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - PDPWHW+LMRoman12-Regular CID Type 0C yes yes yes 4 0 DUTOMC+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman CID Type 0C yes yes yes 5 0 $pdffonts felltype_oo.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - FTLUYL+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman Type 1C yes yes no 8 0 FTLUYL+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman Type 1C So I don't understand how OO transform this opentype in a Type1 , and if is it possible to do the same thing in mkiv. -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion
luigi scarso wrote: $pdffonts felltype.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - PDPWHW+LMRoman12-Regular CID Type 0C yes yes yes 4 0 DUTOMC+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman CID Type 0C yes yes yes 5 0 $pdffonts felltype_oo.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - FTLUYL+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman Type 1C yes yes no 8 0 FTLUYL+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman Type 1C So I don't understand how OO transform this opentype in a Type1 , I guess that that is not hard when a document uses no more than 256 glyphs from the font. Can you experiment a bit and see what happens if you use more of them? and if is it possible to do the same thing in mkiv. No. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] The ultimate (?) float problem
I think I more or less got the idea of what is possible. But let me describe my project. Maybe you might come up with a better solution. I'm going to typeset a diary written and drawn by an illustrator and graphic designer 70 years ago. What is unique, it consists of handwritten pages which were already composed for publication. So in fact I have to preserve both the juxtaposition of illustrations and the text (give or take line or two). As basically the text should not flow between pages I guess I could set the whole thing with layers only. The biggest problem seems how to control placement of layers so that the text inside them is set on the grid. Here is my initial setup for a single page. \definelayer [figure][width=\overlaywidth,height=\overlayheight] \defineoverlay[figure][{\directsetup{figure}\tightlayer[figure]}] \setupcolors[state=start] \setupbackgrounds[page][background=figure] \setuppagenumbering[location={footer,right}] \usetypescript[palatino] \setupbodyfont[palatino,14pt] \starttext \startbuffer[zapf] \input zapf \stopbuffer \startbuffer[hawking] \input hawking \stopbuffer \flushlayer[figure] \startsetups figure \setlayerframed[figure][frame=off,x=25mm,y=43mm]{\externalfigure[cow][width=\textwidth,height=40mm]} \setlayerframed[figure][frame=off,x=25mm,y=90mm,align=normal,width=\textwidth]{\getbuffer[zapf]} \setlayerframed[figure][frame=off,x=80mm,y=150mm]{\externalfigure[cow][width=30mm,height=100mm]} \setlayerframed[figure][frame=off,x=25mm,y=150mm,align=normal,width=50mm]{\getbuffer[hawking]} \setlayerframed[figure][frame=off,x=120mm,y=150mm,align=normal,width=50mm]{\getbuffer[hawking]} \stopsetups \stoptext Of course, it looks like it's going to take couple of months of rather tedious manual work so any ideas how to make it easier are welcome. Piotr 2009/5/12 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com: On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 12.05.2009 um 15:18 schrieb Piotr Kopszak: Yes, exactly. \setuppapersize [S6] \setuptolerance [soepel,rek] better \setuppapersize [S6][S6] \setuptolerance [tolerant,stretch] -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ -- http://okle.pl ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: luigi scarso wrote: $pdffonts felltype.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - PDPWHW+LMRoman12-Regular CID Type 0C yes yes yes 4 0 DUTOMC+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman CID Type 0C yes yes yes 5 0 $pdffonts felltype_oo.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - FTLUYL+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman Type 1C yes yes no 8 0 FTLUYL+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman Type 1C So I don't understand how OO transform this opentype in a Type1 , I guess that that is not hard when a document uses no more than 256 glyphs from the font. yes, a sort of creation of font encodings at fly for more than 256 glyphs -- but why ? Also, does it fix em size, given that this appears to be the root of the problem ? Can you experiment a bit and see what happens if you use more of them? yes ,if I have time this weekend -- volunteer welcome, of course. -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion
luigi scarso wrote: So I don't understand how OO transform this opentype in a Type1 , I guess that that is not hard when a document uses no more than 256 glyphs from the font. yes, a sort of creation of font encodings at fly for more than 256 glyphs -- but why ? Maybe to get around that bug^H^H^Hfeature in AR8 and AR9 that causes distress in mkiv, but more likely is that they believed the reencoding to Type1c was easier to handle than dealing with CID fonts. Also, does it fix em size, given that this appears to be the root of the problem ? No, it fixes nothing. It just works around the issue. The cause of the problem is that AR8 and AR9 *require* Type0 fonts to have 1000 units/em, otherwise the glyph drawing routine outputs an incorrectly scaled object. There is no such limitation for Type1C fonts, and that is why it works ok there (at least for now, who knows what AR10 will bring ...) Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: luigi scarso wrote: So I don't understand how OO transform this opentype in a Type1 , I guess that that is not hard when a document uses no more than 256 glyphs from the font. yes, a sort of creation of font encodings at fly for more than 256 glyphs -- but why ? Maybe to get around that bug^H^H^Hfeature in AR8 and AR9 it's a bug of AR8 and AR9 , IMHO . AR7 shows it ok; AR5 says it's a broken pdf . Also, does it fix em size, given that this appears to be the root of the problem ? No, it fixes nothing. It just works around the issue. The cause of the problem is that AR8 and AR9 *require* Type0 fonts to have 1000 units/em, otherwise the glyph drawing routine outputs an incorrectly scaled object. There is no such limitation for Type1C fonts, and that is why it works ok there (at least for now, who knows what AR10 will bring ...) And aren't we able to do the same trick -- even with a lots of unreadable macros -- in luatex ? -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion
luigi scarso wrote: And aren't we able to do the same trick -- even with a lots of unreadable macros -- in luatex ? No, it needs engine support which is not present. Fastest solution: open the font in fontforge and fix the units, save under a different name, and use that font instead. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: luigi scarso wrote: And aren't we able to do the same trick -- even with a lots of unreadable macros -- in luatex ? No, it needs engine support which is not present. Fastest solution: open the font in fontforge and fix the units, save under a different name, and use that font instead. arthur told me that can arise rounding errors. I should try to convert to Type1 instead -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion
Am 14.05.2009 um 12:12 schrieb luigi scarso: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: No, it needs engine support which is not present. Fastest solution: open the font in fontforge and fix the units, save under a different name, and use that font instead. arthur told me that can arise rounding errors. I should try to convert to Type1 instead when i convert the to TT format i get a correct output Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] mplib logging
Peter Rolf schrieb: Hi, how do I enable (verbose) logging of mplib? I have problems with a corrupt pdf (the last paint form xobject is empty: .../Fm6 Do Q endstream endobj). No errors or warnings in the ConTeXt log (actual? beta). The same code works with mkii. No minimal example yet. found the culprit. i reuse (hashing) /FunctionType3 definitions and this is the cause of the trouble. there seems to be some runtime problems (time when object number is written) in my lua/tex code. in the breaking example the function definition was defined as obj 6 instead of the xobject form. without hashing ('old code kept for readability') there are no problems. sorry for the noise. Peter Peter ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion
arthur told me that can arise rounding errors. You have to remember I used to be a mathematician. I say things that are meant to be true, not meant to be helpful :-) If you want to be sure that LuaTeX's output looks right in the most recent versions of Adobe Reader, editing the font is the way to go (although there might be license issues with commercial fonts). Of course conversion is not perfect, but you can't have it both way! Besides, the metrics won't change if you only modify upm; only the outlines do. I should try to convert to Type1 instead That should indeed work if you don't need more than 256 glyphs in the font (are you *sure* you don't?). Arthur -- Student: I'm new at this university, and I'm lost. Can you tell me where I am? Professor, after a 1- or 2-minute pause: You're in my office. Student: Oh, I see. I'm in the math department. Professor: Yes! How did you guess? Student: That's easy: 1. You thought your answer over thorougly. 2. The facts you stated are exactly true. 3. They don't help me at all! ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion
when i convert the to TT format i get a correct output If Luigi is concerned with rounding errors, he shouldn't do that: while the coordinates of the points on the curve wouldn't change, all the control points would need to be recalculated due to the conversion from cubic to quadratic splines. On the other hand, if you keep CFF outlines and reset the units per em size from 2048 to 1000, you're of course exposed to rounding errors, but all the original points are retained, both points on the curve and control points -- thus it's much less error-prone, in my opinion. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion
Arthur Reutenauer wrote: when i convert the to TT format i get a correct output If Luigi is concerned with rounding errors, he shouldn't do that: while the coordinates of the points on the curve wouldn't change, all the control points would need to be recalculated due to the conversion from cubic to quadratic splines. On the other hand, if you keep CFF outlines and reset the units per em size from 2048 to 1000, you're of course exposed to rounding errors, but all the original points are retained, both points on the curve and control points -- thus it's much less error-prone, in my opinion. Rounding errors are not that important in this case, and there are downsides to both (o3-o2 touches *only* control points, so in some sense it is more precise than upm change). What's normally more important is that if you convert to ttf, you will loose all hinting information. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:03:10AM +0200, luigi scarso wrote: $pdffonts felltype.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - PDPWHW+LMRoman12-Regular CID Type 0C yes yes yes 4 0 DUTOMC+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman CID Type 0C yes yes yes 5 0 $pdffonts felltype_oo.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID - --- --- --- - FTLUYL+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman Type 1C yes yes no 8 0 FTLUYL+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman Type 1C So I don't understand how OO transform this opentype in a Type1 , and if is it possible to do the same thing in mkiv. Not only OOo, InDesign does that too, moreover, someone said even if LuaTeX (XeTeX too) output looked OK in Adobe reader 7, the print isn't OK. -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion
Rounding errors are not that important in this case, and there are downsides to both (o3-o2 touches *only* control points, so in some sense it is more precise than upm change). True, you can see it that way, too. We really need Karel Píška here :-) What's normally more important is that if you convert to ttf, you will loose all hinting information. Right. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] docs
Hi, I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about ConTeXt. therefor I cant do anything without your help. A first series of question: -. For a newcommer, is Mk II the best choice ? -. Is it necessary to know TeX ? or Is ConTeXt (CTX) compatible with TeX ? I wish to alternate french german texts (so they can be translated in other languages). rb Wanderer, kommst du nach LuaTeX, dann hoff nicht zuviel, sonst hast du PeX ;-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] replacement of \...@. ?
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 09:04:51AM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: Yue Wang wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Ryo Furue fu...@hawaii.edu wrote: Hi ConTeXt users, I'm wondering what's the ConTeXt version of LaTeX's \...@. (which indicates an end-of-sentence period). I can define \d...@{\spacefactor1000} and use it, but if there is an official version I'd like to know. I think in Professional typesetting, the same amount of space should be left for all full stop/comma/whaever. You'd better change TeX's default behavior. huh? each language can has its own rules ... spacing after period or comma is one, but also think of quotes in quotations etc; and, the french have spacing before and after : ; . , (it has always been a selling point for tex to be able to deal with it) Not only French, it is also the case for traditional Arabic typesetting, though people tend to follow the English rules these days. Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion
Not only OOo, InDesign does that too, moreover, someone said even if LuaTeX (XeTeX too) output looked OK in Adobe reader 7, the print isn't OK. On what printer? It's probably a bug in the driver, too. LuaTeX does exactly according to specification, I discussed this strategy with Taco years ago. I suppose XeTeX does conform, too, and it came to that arrangement independently. It's really sad that Adobe does not conform to its own specifications. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] OpenType Features
Hello, I am using Context Mark II + XeTeX. I would like to know the following things. 1. How to use opentype font features. I tried the following code but it is not working. \definefontfeature[myfontfea][+onum] \definetypeface[Libertine][rm][Xserif][Linux Libertine O][default][features=myfontfea] \setupbodyfont[Libertine,12pt] 2. Is there an eqivalent code to the following XeLaTeX code. \defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase} 3. How to use Cambria Math font to typeset math. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Arthur Reutenauer arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org wrote: arthur told me that can arise rounding errors. You have to remember I used to be a mathematician. I say things that are meant to be true, not meant to be helpful :-) If you want to be sure that LuaTeX's output looks right in the most recent versions of Adobe Reader, editing the font is the way to go (although there might be license issues with commercial fonts). Of course conversion is not perfect, but you can't have it both way! Besides, the metrics won't change if you only modify upm; only the outlines do. I should try to convert to Type1 instead That should indeed work if you don't need more than 256 glyphs in the font (are you *sure* you don't?). Arthur what I mean is: chose an encoding convert otf to type1 as is, make a pdf with mkiv check if it's ok. It's only for experiment , of course: Fell type come with a native ttf edition which is OK (or better, really OK), and one should chose this one to avoid any problems (so eventually I can compare pdfs ). -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] docs
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:01 PM, R. Bastian rbast...@free.fr wrote: Hi, I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about ConTeXt. therefor I cant do anything without your help. A first series of question: read-and-answer-in-0seconds -. For a newcommer, is Mk II the best choice ? yes -. Is it necessary to know TeX ? yes or Is ConTeXt (CTX) compatible with TeX ? yes -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] OpenType Features
Arun Dev wrote: Hello, I am using Context Mark II + XeTeX. I would like to know the following things. 1. How to use opentype font features. I tried the following code but it is not working. \definefontfeature[myfontfea][+onum] \definetypeface[Libertine][rm][Xserif][Linux Libertine O][default][features=myfontfea] \setupbodyfont[Libertine,12pt] \definefontfeature[myfontfea][onum=yes] 2. Is there an eqivalent code to the following XeLaTeX code. \defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase} i have no clue what that is supposed to do 3. How to use Cambria Math font to typeset math. \usetypescript[cambria] \setupbodyfont[cambria] but only in mkiv - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bibmodule (again)
Taco Hoekwater taco at elvenkind.com writes: The new structure and referencing code is totally different from the old code and I understand less than half of it. What's worse: I seem to be really bad at explaining to Hans all the things that should happen wrt. references in the bib module. :-) FWIW, Frank Bennett has completely written the Zotero Javascript CSL engine to be faster and easier to maintain and extend. It's also now independently hosted and developed. http://bitbucket.org/fbennett/citeproc-js Bruce ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] docs
2009/5/14 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com: I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about ConTeXt. On the one hand it's a good idea to write an introduction / a tutorial for something you don't know, because you'll learn it that way. On the other hand it's a very bad idea to write about something you don't know. On the third hand I'm just writing a German introduction for someone who will use ConTeXt MkIV for scripts of a private medical school. As soon as it's usable, I'll release it open source. There are my old intro slides at http://www.fiee.net/texnique/?menu=0-1-1lang=de - but they're from 2003 and thus heavily outdated. Greetlings, Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta: figure boundingbox
Peter Rolf wrote: Hi, while comparing the PDF of mkii and mkiv I noticed a slight differ in the boundingboxes (bb) of MP figures. While all mkii bb have the form [0 0 w h], the mkiv counterparts use [-1 -1 w+1 h+1]. So the bb of mkiv is enlarged 1bp in all directions. Is this intended? harmless ... it prevents clipping of lines \setbox0\hbox{\useMPgraphic{foo}} \the\wd0 \the\dimexpr2in\relax \box0 the real dimensions and positioning is ok - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] docs
2009/5/14 R. Bastian rbast...@free.fr: I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about ConTeXt. therefor I cant do anything without your help. A first series of question: -. Is it necessary to know TeX ? no, if you know Wolfgang :-D Regards -- Diego Depaoli ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64
bbvo...@home.nl wrote: Dear all, Updating context (linux-64) gives: texlua: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.8' not found (required by texlua) This means the 64bit binary is too new for your machine :( ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta: figure boundingbox
Hans Hagen schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Hi, while comparing the PDF of mkii and mkiv I noticed a slight differ in the boundingboxes (bb) of MP figures. While all mkii bb have the form [0 0 w h], the mkiv counterparts use [-1 -1 w+1 h+1]. So the bb of mkiv is enlarged 1bp in all directions. Is this intended? harmless ... it prevents clipping of lines mh, you mean if something is \framed (with default frame settings)? \setbox0\hbox{\useMPgraphic{foo}} \the\wd0 \the\dimexpr2in\relax \box0 the real dimensions and positioning is ok i haven't seen any problems here so far and my default unit (px) is smaller than one bp. i was just wondering :) thx for the info. - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] docs
On Thu, 14 May 2009, R. Bastian wrote: Hi, I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about ConTeXt. therefor I cant do anything without your help. A first series of question: -. For a newcommer, is Mk II the best choice ? Yes. But the only major difference (from the user's point of view) in MkII and MkIV is typescript definitions. Other commands are mostly same. -. Is it necessary to know TeX ? For the most part no. You can use ConTeXt without knowing anything about catcodes, text encodings (always use unicode), \hbox and \vbox (use \framed etc), and \halign (use tables and mathalignments). You need to know a bit about font handling, but ConTeXt does that completely differently from TeX. or Is ConTeXt (CTX) compatible with TeX ? It is compatible in the sense that a plain tex document will work in Context. You may not always get the same output as the defaults are different. I wish to alternate french german texts (so they can be translated in other languages). Also see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_on_Excursion%2C_translations The wiki page is old and the svn repo is not accessible right now, but someone started translating it into french. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] How to prevent header at page bottom
On Thu, 14 May 2009, Jos van Gisbergen wrote: Hi, I have defined my own header: \definehead[myhead][subsection] \setuphead[myhead][ page=no, number=no ] All works fine, except sometimes the head appears at page bottom and the text starts on the next page. How can I specify that if less than, say, 3 lines of text fit on the current page below the head, the head and text should start on the next page. \testpage[3] checks that you have space for atleast 3 lines in the current page. So you can use \setuphead[myhead][before={\testpage[3]\blank}] Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta: figure boundingbox
Peter Rolf wrote: Hans Hagen schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Hi, while comparing the PDF of mkii and mkiv I noticed a slight differ in the boundingboxes (bb) of MP figures. While all mkii bb have the form [0 0 w h], the mkiv counterparts use [-1 -1 w+1 h+1]. So the bb of mkiv is enlarged 1bp in all directions. Is this intended? harmless ... it prevents clipping of lines mh, you mean if something is \framed (with default frame settings)? if the bbox goes through the middle of a line in an xform then you get (in acrobat) clipped lines so this avoids that problem - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] bugs in beta (footnotes)
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 12.05.2009 um 19:07 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm: Only footnotes in section titles don't work - should they? [...] I couldn't construct a minimal failing example - any hints? No solution but here is a test file: \setupinteraction[state=start] \starttext \section{foo\footnote{bar}} \stoptext repaired - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] docs
R. Bastian wrote: -. Is it necessary to know TeX ? I assume it depends on what you are planning to do with ConTeXt. I've been using ConTeXt for at least five years now, but I've never touched TeX (nor LaTeX nor any others, just ConTeXt). I've got a vague idea what it is about and that's it. Some points though: - background in something else than WYSIWYG editing (What You See Is What You Get = Word, for example) helps a lot. Before I started with ConTeXt I'd already done my share of html and I've learned to do structured documents also in word processing (i.e. mark it heading 1 instead of make that big and black). - I do ConTeXt pretty much with the learn-as-you-go philosophy and when I really have to learn something, I'm pretty determined; most of my ConTeXt usage is at work and if something needs to be done, it has to get done and I can't back off if it seems difficult first. (It took me two days, lot of swearing and a few questions on this mailing list to achieve my first ConTeXt doc in Cyrillic, but I did it in the end. Now it is of course as easy as can be...) - depends on the operationg system and user's backgrouns, too. Those who've used linux/mainframe are probably less likely to be upset by ConTeXt while your average Mac/Windows user may go crazy at the steep start of the learning curve; I'd done some unix and that definitely increased my tolerance. There are days when I swear and yell and curse myself for going over from Word to ConTeXt. But on 9 days out of 10 I pat myself on the back for making the switch. Especially on those styles when MS Word defies all of my attempts to keep a document structurally styled... That's my five cents, Mari ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64
On Thursday 14 May 2009, Taco Hoekwater wrote: bbvo...@home.nl wrote: Dear all, Updating context (linux-64) gives: texlua: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.8' not found (required by texlua) This means the 64bit binary is too new for your machine :( Thanks. 3 months after release and Debian Lenny is already too old. Compiling luatex myself and updating minimals, does that work? ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64
bbvo...@home.nl wrote: This means the 64bit binary is too new for your machine :( Thanks. 3 months after release and Debian Lenny is already too old. If it was any other distro I would be surprised ;) Lenny is glibc 2.7, right? Compiling luatex myself and updating minimals, does that work? It should, yes. Even better would be if you then sent your binary to Mojca, since yours will run on more platforms than the current binary in minimals. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] docs
On Thu, 14 May 2009 09:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu scribit: On Thu, 14 May 2009, R. Bastian wrote: [...] I wish to alternate french german texts (so they can be translated in other languages). Also see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_on_Excursion%2C_translations The wiki page is old and the svn repo is not accessible right now, but someone started translating it into french. Thanks, but I will write the source in the following manner: \german Was meinst Du? \bavarian Woas moanst? \french Que veux-tu dire ? It is not necessaury to make texian acrobaties: the extraction can be done by a little Python-script Aditya ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta (12.05.2009, 22:36): footnote marker and overprinting
Peter Rolf wrote: Hi, just in case this slipped someone's mind :) I still get an error about an undefined control sequence (\PDFobjectreferenceB) and the footnote marker (star) is not moved with the footnote (\moveright). The attached example code (with overprinting) breaks with the mentioned error. The attached picture shows the problem with the separated footnote marker. It can be created with the other versions (without overprinting) of the \NoteNumber and \MyFootnote macros. it's \def\MyFootnote#1{\footnote {\hskip3em \startproperty[overprint]#1\stopproperty}} (i'll make \startoverprint which is actually kind of low level unexpandable but not \dostartproperty which is not intended as user command) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64
It should, yes. Even better would be if you then sent your binary to Mojca, since yours will run on more platforms than the current binary in minimals. Absolutely, and, even better, Bernard, if you're willing to use SVN, you can even submit the binaries to the repository yourself. Write to Mojca and me if you want an account on the server. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] docs
On Thu, 14 May 2009 14:45:20 +0200 Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net scribit: 2009/5/14 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com: I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about ConTeXt. On the one hand it's a good idea to write an introduction / a tutorial for something you don't know, because you'll learn it that way. On the other hand it's a very bad idea to write about something you don't know. On the third hand I'm just writing a German introduction for someone who will use ConTeXt MkIV for scripts of a private medical school. As soon as it's usable, I'll release it open source. There are my old intro slides at http://www.fiee.net/texnique/?menu=0-1-1lang=de - but they're from 2003 and thus heavily outdated. Very fine. I will study the source. Greetlings, Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 17:21, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: It should, yes. Even better would be if you then sent your binary to Mojca, since yours will run on more platforms than the current binary in minimals. Absolutely, and, even better, Bernard, if you're willing to use SVN, you can even submit the binaries to the repository yourself. Write to Mojca and me if you want an account on the server. Sorry, my fault, I figured out that I may not compile the binaries on the garden any more (I didn't know that before). Usually Peter compiles all the binaries, this time I did and that has apparently been a mistake. Sorry. Peter, may I ask you to recompile the luatex beta binary (in src/luatex) and commit it to current/luatex-0.40.1/luatex? Thanks, Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] docs
Am 14.05.2009 um 17:12 schrieb R. Bastian: Thanks, but I will write the source in the following manner: \german Was meinst Du? \bavarian Woas moanst? \french Que veux-tu dire ? When you want you complete document in one language you can write \startmode[de] Was meinst du? \stopmode \startmode[fr] Que veux-tu dire ? \stopmode and call context with context --modes=de filename for the german version. For a version with the text for two languages on facing pages you can use your example code as it is with the streams module. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64
On Thursday 14 May 2009, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: It should, yes. Even better would be if you then sent your binary to Mojca, since yours will run on more platforms than the current binary in minimals. Absolutely, and, even better, Bernard, if you're willing to use SVN, you can even submit the binaries to the repository yourself. Write to Mojca and me if you want an account on the server. Lets try compiling first ;) The correct link on luatex.org is still http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/luatex ? ... and is currently down? Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64
On Thursday 14 May 2009, Taco Hoekwater wrote: bbvo...@home.nl wrote: This means the 64bit binary is too new for your machine :( Thanks. 3 months after release and Debian Lenny is already too old. If it was any other distro I would be surprised ;) Lenny is glibc 2.7, right? Right Compiling luatex myself and updating minimals, does that work? It should, yes. Even better would be if you then sent your binary to Mojca, since yours will run on more platforms than the current binary in minimals. In that case a clean chroot environment might be handy. Lets see what I can do. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] beta (12.05.2009, 22:36): footnote marker and overprinting
Hans Hagen schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Hi, just in case this slipped someone's mind :) I still get an error about an undefined control sequence (\PDFobjectreferenceB) and the footnote marker (star) is not moved with the footnote (\moveright). The attached example code (with overprinting) breaks with the mentioned error. The attached picture shows the problem with the separated footnote marker. It can be created with the other versions (without overprinting) of the \NoteNumber and \MyFootnote macros. it's \def\MyFootnote#1{\footnote {\hskip3em \startproperty[overprint]#1\stopproperty}} sorry, i couldn't resist. \dostartoverprint was the more 'sexy' alternative ;) to tell the truth i can't quite remember why i chose this one. but i'm sure that i have tested everthing related to overprint. (i'll make \startoverprint which is actually kind of low level unexpandable but not \dostartproperty which is not intended as user command) ah, perfect a nice and melodic user command without any expansion problems :) many thanks! - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64
bbvo...@home.nl wrote: On Thursday 14 May 2009, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: It should, yes. Even better would be if you then sent your binary to Mojca, since yours will run on more platforms than the current binary in minimals. Absolutely, and, even better, Bernard, if you're willing to use SVN, you can even submit the binaries to the repository yourself. Write to Mojca and me if you want an account on the server. Lets try compiling first ;) The correct link on luatex.org is still http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/luatex ? ... and is currently down? Oh, yes: foundry.supelec.fr is being upgraded today, it should be back on line tomorrow morning. Sorry, I forgot to mention that. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64
On Thu, 14 May 2009, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Peter, may I ask you to recompile the luatex beta binary (in src/luatex) and commit it to current/luatex-0.40.1/luatex? Of course. Compilation has just been started. Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Updating bug: linux-64
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 20:43, Peter Münster wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2009, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Peter, may I ask you to recompile the luatex beta binary (in src/luatex) and commit it to current/luatex-0.40.1/luatex? Of course. Compilation has just been started. Thanks, Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] OpenType Features
You asked the same questions a few days ago, what's your problem with the answers you got last time? Wolfgang Am 14.05.2009 um 14:18 schrieb Arun Dev: Hello, I am using Context Mark II + XeTeX. I would like to know the following things. 1. How to use opentype font features. I tried the following code but it is not working. \definefontfeature[myfontfea][+onum] \definetypeface[Libertine][rm][Xserif][Linux Libertine O][default] [features=myfontfea] \setupbodyfont[Libertine,12pt] 2. Is there an eqivalent code to the following XeLaTeX code. \defaultfontfeatures{Scale=MatchLowercase} 3. How to use Cambria Math font to typeset math. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] replacement of \...@. ?
| I'm wondering what's the ConTeXt version | of LaTeX's \...@. (which indicates an end-of-sentence | period). I can define | | \d...@{\spacefactor1000} | | and use it, but if there is an official version | I'd like to know. | | ... USA.\ ... Thanks, but that doesn't change the spacing, in my environment at least. (I use texlive-context on the testing distribution of Debian.) I think the command \ inserts an inter-word spacing, not an inter-sentence spacing. You can compare whether USA.\ This is another sentence gives the same result as USA\spacefactor1000. This is another sentence I know there is a typographic style where the inter-word and inter-sentence spacings are the same. But, by default, ConTeXt uses a larger inter-sentence spacing than the inter-word spacing. In such a case, there has to be a means to indicate an inter-sentence spacing when a sentence ends with a capital letter and a period. Regards, Ryo ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] replacement of \...@. ?
Am 14.05.2009 um 21:59 schrieb Ryo Furue: I know there is a typographic style where the inter-word and inter-sentence spacings are the same. But, by default, ConTeXt uses a larger inter-sentence spacing than the inter-word spacing. In such a case, there has to be a means to indicate an inter-sentence spacing when a sentence ends with a capital letter and a period. The TeXbook suggest to use \null before the period, e.g. USA\null. This is another sentence but I would prefer here LaTeX's \...@. @Hans: There is something wrong with \nonfrenchspacing (or spacefactor) in mkiv. \starttext USA. This is another sentence USA.\ This is another sentence USA\null. This is another sentence USA\spacefactor1000. This is another sentence \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] replacement of \...@. ?
On Thu, 14 May 2009, Hans Hagen wrote: each language can has its own rules ... spacing after period or comma is one, but also think of quotes in quotations etc; and, the french have spacing before and after : ; . , (it has always been a selling point for tex to be able to deal with it) Hello Hans, Could you please comment on this message: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080718.192231.d8036759.en.html It seems, that the contents of this message is still up-to-date. Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] MKIV, fonts, confusion
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 14.05.2009 um 12:12 schrieb luigi scarso: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: No, it needs engine support which is not present. Fastest solution: open the font in fontforge and fix the units, save under a different name, and use that font instead. arthur told me that can arise rounding errors. I should try to convert to Type1 instead when i convert the to TT format i get a correct output yes, but there is also an original ttf version -- they works ok , of course . -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Font features
Hello, I also have a question about font features. Minion Pro has old style numerals. How to display them, provided that I enabled this feature? In the following test script, I get ordinary numbers, no old style. \starttypescript [serif] [MinionPro] \definefontsynonym [Serif][MinionPro-Regular.otf][features=onum] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [MinionPro] \definetypeface [MinionPro][rm][serif][MinionPro][features=onum] \stoptypescript \usetypescript[MinionPro] \setupbodyfont[MinionPro,16pt] \starttext This is bla bla bla 1234567890. \stoptext Regards, Vyatcheslav ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___