Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues
mkii result
On 14 Mar 2015, at 17:14, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:
Am 14.03.2015 um 15:54 schrieb Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl:
I am running into two issues with my mkii-to-mkiv conversion project
- The \chapter command in mkiv uses more whitespace between the header and
the first paragraph. How can I influence this?
- \startitemize[packed,joinedup] inserts whitespace between the list and the
paragraph before it where mkii doesn’t
How can I fix this?
Do you have a example because I can’t reproduce it.
\showgrid
\starttext
\chapter{\contextmark}
\input knuth
\startitemize[packed,joinedup]
\item One
\item Two
\item Three
\stopitemize
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Indentation within footnotes
On 03/15/2015 03:16 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:
[...]
\setupnotation[footnote][indenting=yes,next]
\setupfootnotedefinition[before={\setupindenting[big,yes]}]
will give me what I want. But can anyone explain why *both* commands are
needed? Toggling these two commands doesn't work.
Hi Idris,
this does what you need:
\setupindenting[big,yes]
\startsetups[footnote:indenting]
\setupindenting[big,yes]
\stopsetups
\setupheads[indentnext=no]
\setupnote[footnote][setups=footnote:indenting]
\setupnotation[footnote][indenting=yes,next]
\starttext
\startsubject[title=Indentation Within a Footnote]
\input ward
\startfootnote
\input ward
\input ward
\input ward
\stopfootnote
The explanation (you are a ConTeXt expert and I’m only a long-term
newbie :-)) is that setups are required.
Setups belong to \setupnote and indenting belongs to \setupnotation.
I hope it helps,
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Re: [NTG-context] Indentation within footnotes
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 07:42:11 -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
isha...@colostate.edu wrote:
Dear gang,
In the attached example: For a given footnote I would like for the first
line of each paragraph after paragraph one to be indented. What do I need
to do to get this right? Thanks in advance, and
Best wishes
Idris
\setupindenting[big,yes]
\setupheads[indentnext=no]
\setupnotation[footnote][command={\setupindenting[big,yes]},indenting=yes,next]
\starttext
\startsubject[title=Indentation Within a Footnote]
\input ward
\startfootnote
\input ward
\input ward
\input ward
\stopfootnote
\input ward
\stopsubject
\stoptext
\setupnotation[footnote][indenting=yes,next]
\setupfootnotedefinition[before={\setupindenting[big,yes]}]
will give me what I want. But can anyone explain why *both* commands are
needed? Toggling these two commands doesn't work.
Best wishes
Idris
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Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues
mkiv result
On 14 Mar 2015, at 17:14, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:
Am 14.03.2015 um 15:54 schrieb Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl:
I am running into two issues with my mkii-to-mkiv conversion project
- The \chapter command in mkiv uses more whitespace between the header and
the first paragraph. How can I influence this?
- \startitemize[packed,joinedup] inserts whitespace between the list and the
paragraph before it where mkii doesn’t
How can I fix this?
Do you have a example because I can’t reproduce it.
\showgrid
\starttext
\chapter{\contextmark}
\input knuth
\startitemize[packed,joinedup]
\item One
\item Two
\item Three
\stopitemize
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] currentreferencerealpage wrong (how to detect even/odd pages?)
Hi,
right now I use \currentreferencerealpage to detect if I'm on an even or odd
page
(because my picture placement rules depend on it) like this:
\newcount\bildpage
\bildpage=1
% ...
\def\bild#1...{%
{\global\bildpage=\realpageno}%
\ifodd\bildpage \def\eo{o}\else \def\eo{e}\fi
% ...
\if o\eo odd...\else even...\fi
\message{ bildpage=\the\bildpage \space eo=\eo \space
currentreferencerealpage=\currentreferencerealpage \space }%
}
but now I notice that for some pages/pictures the value of
\currentreferencerealpage
is not correct (only for the first picture on a new page?):-(
I'm writing some ... data to the log file:
pagesflushing realpage 34, userpage 34
bildpage=35 eo=o currentreferencerealpage=35
bildpage=35 eo=o currentreferencerealpage=35
pagesflushing realpage 35, userpage 35
bildpage=35 eo=o currentreferencerealpage=35
bildpage=36 eo=e currentreferencerealpage=36
pagesflushing realpage 36, userpage 36
bildpage=37 eo=o currentreferencerealpage=0
bildpage=37 eo=o currentreferencerealpage=0
bildpage=37 eo=o currentreferencerealpage=0
typically after that flushing realpage XX, userpage XX messages (not from me;)
the currentreferencerealpage is set to the new page number.
but NOT for page 36: here after flushing realpage 35
it's still currentreferencerealpage=35 for the first picture on this page:-(
any idea how this can go wrong ?
what can I test, which debug info can I provide ?
is there a possible
the attached zip file contains a minimal example
with only 2 pages and 4 images: on the 2nd page (#36)
the first image should bleed to the left like all other pictures...
so far this seems to happen 3 times according to the log file:
pagesflushing realpage 10, userpage 10
bildpage=11 eo=o currentreferencerealpage=11
bildpage=12 eo=e currentreferencerealpage=12
pagesflushing realpage 11, userpage 11
pagesflushing realpage 14, userpage 14
bildpage=15 eo=o currentreferencerealpage=15
bildpage=15 eo=o currentreferencerealpage=15
bildpage=16 eo=e currentreferencerealpage=16
pagesflushing realpage 15, userpage 15
thanks for any help,
Harald
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues
I’m struggling to make a minimal example.It happens in my project, so it is a
result of my …/products/prd_book.tex and ../environment/env_cataoia.tex and the
test file. I need to give three files, two of which differ between mkii and
mkiv because of different font commands and lettrine vs initial
prd_book.tex ===
\startproduct prd_book
\project project_cataoia
\starttext
\start
\startstandardmakeup[doublesided=no]
\ss
\hairline \start
\blank[line]
\switchtobodyfont[16pt]\bf
\leftaligned{Chess}%
\blank[line]
\leftaligned{and the Art of}%
\blank[line]
\leftaligned{Enterprise Architecture}%
\stop
\hairline \blank[line]
\leftaligned{Making the right moves to manage Business--IT complexity}%
\hairline \blank[line]\rightaligned{Gerben Wierda}%
\blank[6cm]\start\leftskip=10cm\hairline\stop
\rightaligned{2015}%
\stopstandardmakeup
\startstandardmakeup[doublesided=no,page=no]
~\blank[2in]
\start
\switchtobodyfont[9pt]
Copyright \copyright\ 2015 by Gerben Wierda, The Netherlands\crlf
Image used on cover (and on the inside) \copyright\ iStock.com/Antonio
\blank[4mm]
Published by R\A, The Netherlands
\blank[4mm]
Typeset with \TeX, using the mkii version of the \SSCONTEXT\ macro package.
\blank[4mm]
Neither the author, nor the publisher, nor the printer, nor the distributor,
nor the seller accept any responsibility or liability for loss or damage
occasioned to any person or property through using the material, instructions,
methods or ideas contained in or distributed with this book, or acting or
refraining from acting as a result of such use. The author, publisher,
printer, distributor, and seller expressly disclaim all implied warranties,
including merchantability of fitness for any particular purpose.
\blank[4mm]
ISBN 978-90-819840-5-8
\blank[4mm]
Contact info: {\sl i...@enterprisechess.com}\crlf Web site: {\sl
http://enterprisechess.com}\crlf Suggested hashtag: {\sl \#eachess}
\stop
\stopstandardmakeup
\startstandardmakeup[doublesided=no]
\start
\switchtobodyfont[16pt]
\midaligned{The world is not {\blackboard Q}, it is {\blackboard R}}
\blank[6cm]
\stop
\stopstandardmakeup
\stop
\startfrontmatter
\startbuffer [chapter:quote]
%When teaching a rapidly changing technology, perspective is more important
%than content\crlf
%{\tf Richard~Pattis}
The most erroneous stories are those we think we know best --- and therefore
never scrutinize or question.\crlf
{\tf Stephen Jay Gould}
\stopbuffer
\noheaderandfooterlines
\start
\title[h:toc]{Contents}
\setuppagenumber[number=3]
\placelist[chapter,chaptertext]
\stop
\component c_loosely
\stopfrontmatter
\startbodymatter
\component c_inconvenient
\component c_goals
\component c_orthodoxy
\component c_intermezzo
\component c_chess
\component c_model
\component c_future
\component c_hurdles
\stopbodymatter
\startappendices
% \component c_logic
\component c_cloud
\component c_current
\component c_fsatemplate
\component c_psatemplate
\component c_bibliography
\component c_endnotes
\component c_index
\stopappendices
\stoptext
\stopcomponent
=
env_cataoia.tex mkii =
\startenvironment env_cataoia
\project project_cataoia
%
\definedescription [description]
[location=serried, width=broad, hang=fit, margin=standard,
headstyle=bold]
\definestartstop [descriptions] [before=\startpacked,
after=\stoppacked]
%
\def\SSCONTEXT {Con\kern-.15em\TeX t}
%
%
\definepapersize[smallpaperback][width=5in,height=8in]
\setuppapersize[smallpaperback][smallpaperback]
\setuplayout[location=doublesided]
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\setupsectionblock[frontpart][page=no]
\setupsectionblock[bodypart][page=no]
\setupsectionblock[appendix][page=no]
\setupsectionblock[backpart][page=no]
% Every chapter body text starts with lettrine:
\usemodule[lettrine]
\setuplettrine[Lines=3,
Hang=.5,
Oversize=0,
Raise=0,
Findent=0pt,
Nindent=0em,
Slope=0em,
Ante=,
FontHook=,
TextFont=\sc,
Image=no]
% Every chapter starts with a quote on the LHS page:
\setuphead
[chapter]
[page=,
before={\setups[chapter:before]},
after={\setups[chapter:after]}]
\startsetups chapter:before
\page[left]
\noheaderandfooterlines
\startalignment[left,nothyphenated]
\startnarrower[4*left]
\em \getbuffer[chapter:quote]
\stopnarrower
\stopalignment
\resetsetups[quote:text]
\page[right]
\noheaderandfooterlines
\blank[force,2*big]
\stopsetups
\startsetups chapter:after
\blank[3*big]
\stopsetups
% Mark TODO items in the text
\def\todo#1{{\red --- --- --- TODO: {#1} --- --- ---}}
%
Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues
The itemize white space issue was a difference in handling \reference. In mkii
a \reference between \startitemize and the first item did not produce empty
space, in mkiv it does. I moved the \reference to inside the \item
G
On 14 Mar 2015, at 17:14, Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:
Am 14.03.2015 um 15:54 schrieb Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl:
I am running into two issues with my mkii-to-mkiv conversion project
- The \chapter command in mkiv uses more whitespace between the header and
the first paragraph. How can I influence this?
- \startitemize[packed,joinedup] inserts whitespace between the list and the
paragraph before it where mkii doesn’t
How can I fix this?
Do you have a example because I can’t reproduce it.
\showgrid
\starttext
\chapter{\contextmark}
\input knuth
\startitemize[packed,joinedup]
\item One
\item Two
\item Three
\stopitemize
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Indentation within footnotes
Dear gang,
In the attached example: For a given footnote I would like for the first
line of each paragraph after paragraph one to be indented. What do I need
to do to get this right? Thanks in advance, and
Best wishes
Idris
\setupindenting[big,yes]
\setupheads[indentnext=no]
\setupnotation[footnote][command={\setupindenting[big,yes]},indenting=yes,next]
\starttext
\startsubject[title=Indentation Within a Footnote]
\input ward
\startfootnote
\input ward
\input ward
\input ward
\stopfootnote
\input ward
\stopsubject
\stoptext
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Professor of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
test-noteindent.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
test-noteindent.tex
Description: TeX document
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem in using vlingrid() and hlingrid() macros (Metafun)
Hi,
To solve my problem, I finally used a loop to draw a grid.
Fabrice
\starttext
\start
\switchtobodyfont[small]
\startMPcode
path p ;
u := 2cm ; v:= 1cm ;
p := (-u,-5v)--(3u,-5v)--(3u,4v)--(-u,4v)--cycle ;
drawoptions(withpen pencircle scaled 0.5pt withcolor
\MPcolor{mycolor});
for i=-u step u until 3u :
draw (i,-5v)--(i,4v) ;
endfor ;
for i=-5v step v until 4v :
draw (-u,i)--(3u,i) ;
endfor ;
drawoptions(withpen pencircle scaled 1pt) ;
drawarrow (-u,0)--(3u,0) ;
drawarrow (0,-5v)--(0,4v) ;
draw (u,-0.05v)--(u,0.05v) ;
draw (-0.025u,v)--(0.025u,v) ;
draw curvedfunction (x, 3*x*x-5*x+1, -1, 3, 0.01) xyscaled
(u,v) withcolor red ;
draw curvedfunction (x, -5*x+1, -1, 3, 0.01) xyscaled (u,v)
withcolor blue ;
draw curvedfunction (x, 7*x-11, -1, 3, 0.01) xyscaled (u,v)
withcolor green ;
label.bot(btex $x$ etex,(2.97u,-0.1v)) ;
label.rt(btex $y$ etex,(0.01u,3.9v)) ;
label.llft(0,(0,0)) ;
label.urt(A,(0,v)) ;
dotlabel(,(u,-4v)) ;
label.rt(C,(1.02u,-4v)) ;
dotlabel.lrt(B,(2u,3v)) ;
label.bot(1,(u,0)) ;
label.lft(1,(0,v)) ;
clip currentpicture to p ;
\stopMPcode
\stop
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Indentation within footnotes
Hi Pablo,
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:24:47 -0600, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote:
Changing indenting to {yes, next} only the third
paragraph in the footnote is indented.
My guess is that the first next is already hardwired into the footnote
mechanism. If you remove the next it should work. So this works here:
% \setupnotation[footnote][indenting={yes,big,next}]
\setupnotation[footnote][indenting={yes,big}]
When I had the next I got the same result as you.
Best wishes
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Colorado State University
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Re: [NTG-context] Indentation within footnotes
Am 15.03.2015 um 14:42 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
isha...@colostate.edu:
Dear gang,
In the attached example: For a given footnote I would like for the first line
of each paragraph after paragraph one to be indented. What do I need to do to
get this right? Thanks in advance, and
Best wishes
Idris
\setupindenting[big,yes]
\setupheads[indentnext=no]
\setupnotation[footnote][command={\setupindenting[big,yes]},indenting=yes,next]
1. You have to put braces around the arguments for the indenting key.
2. Change the notation setup to \setupnotation[footnote][indenting={yes,big}]
because notes ignore the global indent value.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Indentation within footnotes
Hi Pablo,
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 10:29:25 -0600, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote:
On 03/15/2015 03:16 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:
[...]
\setupnotation[footnote][indenting=yes,next]
\setupfootnotedefinition[before={\setupindenting[big,yes]}]
will give me what I want. But can anyone explain why *both* commands are
needed? Toggling these two commands doesn't work.
snip
\setupindenting[big,yes]
\startsetups[footnote:indenting]
\setupindenting[big,yes]
\stopsetups
\setupheads[indentnext=no]
\setupnote[footnote][setups=footnote:indenting]
\setupnotation[footnote][indenting=yes,next]
Fortunately, it's much easier that that ;-)
% Argument to after= controls vertical space between notes
\setupnotation
[footnote][before={\setupwhitespace[big]},indenting={yes,big},after={\blank[small]}]
As mentioned in the other email, the first next is apparently already
built in, no no need for it.
(you are a ConTeXt expert and I’m only a long-term newbie :-))
Well, all users are long-term ConTeXt newbies, now and forever... The only
exception is Wolfgang ;-)
And I still suspect Wolfgang is just Hans in disguise :D
Best wishes
Idris
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Re: [NTG-context] currentreferencerealpage wrong (how to detect even/odd pages?)
Am 15.03.2015 um 16:40 schrieb Harald Koenig
koe...@tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de:
Hi,
right now I use \currentreferencerealpage to detect if I'm on an even or odd
page
(because my picture placement rules depend on it) like this:
\newcount\bildpage
\bildpage=1
% ...
\def\bild#1...{%
{\global\bildpage=\realpageno}%
\ifodd\bildpage \def\eo{o}\else \def\eo{e}\fi
% ...
\if o\eo odd...\else even...\fi
\message{ bildpage=\the\bildpage \space eo=\eo \space
currentreferencerealpage=\currentreferencerealpage \space }%
}
but now I notice that for some pages/pictures the value of
\currentreferencerealpage
is not correct (only for the first picture on a new page?):-(
To test whether you’re on a left or right page you can use the \signalrightpage
and \doifrightpageelse commands.
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
%\setuppagenumbering[alternative={singlesided,doublesided}]
\starttext
\dorecurse{100}
{\dontleavehmode\signalrightpage
\doifrightpageelse{Right page}{Left page}
\blank[line]}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Indentation within footnotes
On 03/15/2015 05:55 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 15.03.2015 um 14:42 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد:
Dear gang,
In the attached example: For a given footnote I would like for the
first line of each paragraph after paragraph one to be indented. What do
I need to do to get this right? Thanks in advance, and
Best wishes
Idris
\setupindenting[big,yes]
\setupheads[indentnext=no]
\setupnotation[footnote][command={\setupindenting[big,yes]},indenting=yes,next]
1. You have to put braces around the arguments for the indenting key.
2. Change the notation setup to
\setupnotation[footnote][indenting={yes,big}] because notes ignore the
global indent value.
Hi Wolfgang,
with the following sample:
\setupindenting[big,yes]
\startsetups[footnote:indenting]
\setupindenting[big,yes]
\stopsetups
\setupheads[indentnext=no]
\setupnote[footnote][setups=footnote:indenting]
\setupnotation[footnote][indenting={yes}]
\starttext
\input ward\footnote{\dorecurse{3}{\input ward\par}}
\input ward
\stoptext
it works as expected. Changing indenting to {yes, next} only the third
paragraph in the footnote is indented.
Isn’t it a bug?
Many thanks for your help,
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[NTG-context] Exporting highlights
Dear gang,
Ok, I'm rolling up my sleeves and taking another stab at exporting to
xhtml (maybe even epub). Major project, so taking this one small step at a
time.
The immediate aim is to get correct output in a browser (I use Opera, and
Chrome as a control). Test files attached.
Immediate problem is highlights.
export-highlight.tex==
\setupbackend
[export=yes,css=highlight.css]
\definehighlight[emphasis] [style=italic]
\definehighlight[important][style=bold]
\definehighlight[regular][style=\tf]
\starttext
\startchapter[title=Highlights]
\startparagraph
This is \emphasis{emphasis}. This is \important{important}. This is
\regular{regular}.
This is \emphasis{some emphasized text, with \regular{regular} in between}.
This is \important{some important text, with \regular{regular} in between}.
\stopparagraph
\stopchapter
\stoptext
===
In highlight.css (copied from export-sample.css and modified) I added
these lines:
==
highlight [detail=emphasis]{
font-weight : italic ;
}
highlight [detail=important]{
font-weight : bold ;
}
highlight [detail=regular]{
font-weight : regular ;
}
==
Results:
===export-highlight-tag.xhtml
sectioncontent
paragraphThis is highlight detail=emphasisemphasis/highlight.
This is highlight detail=importantimportant/highlight. This is
highlight detail=regularregular/highlight.break/
This is highlight detail=emphasissome emphasized text, with highlight
detail=regularregular/highlight in between/highlight.break/
This is highlight detail=importantsome important text, with highlight
detail=regularregular/highlight in between/highlight./paragraph
/sectioncontent
===export-highlight-div.xhtml
div class=paragraphThis is div class=highlight
emphasisemphasis/div. This is div class=highlight
importantimportant/div. This is div class=highlight
regularregular/div.div class=break!--empty--/div
This is div class=highlight emphasissome emphasized text, with div
class=highlight regularregular/div in between/div.div
class=break!--empty--/div
This is div class=highlight importantsome important text, with div
class=highlight regularregular/div in between/div./div
=
Observation: Opera won't render *-raw.xml, so we ignore that file.
In a browser we have
Challenge 1:
Neither export-highlight-tag.xhtml nor export-highlight-div.xhtml renders
the highlights. What do we need to do?
Challenge 2:
export-highlight-div.xhtml breaks the line before a highlight as well as
after a highlight. What is missing here?
Aim: To turn my current project into an epub, or at least something that
can be viewed in a browser (xhtml).
Caveat: I don't know much web development (css, xhtml, div, etc) but am
willing to work with what I have... but only IF there is a finish line. If
there is no finish line (i.e., things are too broken at the moment to get
the mission accomplished via what ConTeXt and CSS provide) kindly let me
know so I can stop now!
Henning Hraban Ramm and Aditya Mahajan mentioned XSLT stylesheets, but
this is probably way above my paygrade, unless someone can give me very
simple newbie pointers.
Thanks to all in advance and
Best wishes
Idris
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Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
export-highlight.tex
Description: TeX document
export-highlight.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
/*
author: Hans Hagen, PRAGMA-ADE, Hasselt NL
copyright : PRAGMA ADE / ConTeXt Development Team
license : see context related readme files
comment : companion to context.mkiv
*/
/* ignore : mixed */
/* metadata: display */
ignore {
display : none ;
}
xmetadata {
display : none ;
}
xmetavariable {
display : none ;
}
/* document : display */
document:before {
content : attr(title) ;
font-size : 44pt ;
font-weight : bold ;
margin-bottom : 1em ;
}
document {
font-family : DejaVu Serif, Lucida Bright, serif ;
font-size: 12pt ;
max-width: 50em ;
padding : 1em ;
/* text-align : justify ;*/
/* hyphens : manual ; */
/* text-justify : inter-word ; */
}
documentmetadata {
font-family : Lucida Console, DejaVu Sans Mono, monospace ;
margin-bottom : 2em ;
}
documentmetadatametavariable[name=title]:before {
content : title\00A0\00A0\00A0:\00A0 ;
}
documentmetadatametavariable[name=author]:before {
content : author\00A0\00A0:\00A0 ;
}
documentmetadatametavariable[name=version]:before {
content : version\00A0:\00A0 ;
}
documentmetadatametavariable[name=title], documentmetadatametavariable[name=author], documentmetadatametavariable[name=version] {
display : block ;
}
/* paragraph : mixed */
/* p : mixed */
paragraph, p {
display : block ;
margin-top: 0.5em ;
margin-bottom : 0.5em ;
}
/* break : display
Re: [NTG-context] Indentation within footnotes
Am 15.03.2015 um 19:19 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
isha...@colostate.edu:
Hi Pablo,
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:24:47 -0600, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote:
Changing indenting to {yes, next} only the third
paragraph in the footnote is indented.
My guess is that the first next is already hardwired into the footnote
mechanism. If you remove the next it should work. So this works here:
% \setupnotation[footnote][indenting={yes,big,next}]
\setupnotation[footnote][indenting={yes,big}]
When I had the next I got the same result as you.
I will show below the reason for the unexpected behaviour of the next keyword.
What you should
keep in mind is that context uses the same mechanism for enumerations,
description and note
entries.
In older versions of the mechanism indentation was set before the title and
content where placed
but this produces unwanted results when you used the “next” keyword because the
title itself
was recognised as first paragraph (see page 1). After moving the indentation
setting between
the title and the content (see page 2) the “next” keyword produced the expected
output.
The problem is now when make the title part of the first paragraph because the
indentation
is changed until we start the second paragraph and the “next” keyword applies
now to the third
paragraph.
begin example
\setuppapersize[A5]
\starttext
% Page 1
\start \setupindenting[yes,medium,next]
\noindent{\bf Description Title}
\input knuth
\stop
\page
% Page 2
\start
\noindent{\bf Description Title}
\setupindenting[yes,medium,next]
\input knuth
\stop
\page
% Page 3
\start
\noindent{\bf Description Title}
\setupindenting[yes,medium,next]
\input knuth
\stop
\stoptext
end example
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Indentation within footnotes
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 15:07:57 -0600, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote:
I’m not sure whether this is clearer to me. It seems that your approach
enables indenting by setting vertical space in paragraphs.
I may be missing something, since I’d bet that the setups for notes
approach is clearer.
Didn't mean to confuse you, all you need is
\setupnotation[footnote][indenting={yes,big}] % no next
The other two options were just to show other things you could do with
\setupnotation. Thanks again for your help and
Best wishes
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Re: [NTG-context] Indentation within footnotes
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 15:43:47 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster
schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:
Am 15.03.2015 um 19:19 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
isha...@colostate.edu:
Hi Pablo,
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:24:47 -0600, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es
wrote:
Changing indenting to {yes, next} only the third
paragraph in the footnote is indented.
My guess is that the first next is already hardwired into the
footnote mechanism. If you remove the next it should work. So this
works here:
% \setupnotation[footnote][indenting={yes,big,next}]
\setupnotation[footnote][indenting={yes,big}]
When I had the next I got the same result as you.
I will show below the reason for the unexpected behaviour of the next
keyword. What you should
keep in mind is that context uses the same mechanism for enumerations,
description and note
entries.
In older versions of the mechanism indentation was set before the title
and content where placed
but this produces unwanted results when you used the “next” keyword
because the title itself
was recognised as first paragraph (see page 1). After moving the
indentation setting between
the title and the content (see page 2) the “next” keyword produced the
expected output.
The problem is now when make the title part of the first paragraph
because the indentation
is changed until we start the second paragraph and the “next” keyword
applies now to the third
paragraph.
begin example
\setuppapersize[A5]
\starttext
% Page 1
\start \setupindenting[yes,medium,next]
\noindent{\bf Description Title}
\input knuth
\stop
\page
% Page 2
\start
\noindent{\bf Description Title}
\setupindenting[yes,medium,next]
\input knuth
\stop
\page
% Page 3
\start
\noindent{\bf Description Title}
\setupindenting[yes,medium,next]
\input knuth
\stop
\stoptext
end example
Thanks, Wolfgang -- or is it Hans? ;-) -- for this very instructive
example!
I just made one change: \noindentation instead of \noindent (my
understanding is that we're supposed to avoid very low-level indenting
commands).
So the first paragraph of a footnote insertion contains an implicit title,
or does the footnote numeral function as title? Anyway, very interesting!
Thanks again and
Best wishes
Idris
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Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues
Am 14.03.2015 um 15:54 schrieb Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl:
I am running into two issues with my mkii-to-mkiv conversion project
- The \chapter command in mkiv uses more whitespace between the header and
the first paragraph. How can I influence this?
The different space before the \chapter is caused by the “fixed” keyword for
\blank
which produce different result with MkII and MkIV and the MkIV behaviour need
to be corrected.
The space after \chapter comes from your \writetolist entry and you can correct
this with the \GotoPar command at the end of the entry as shown below.
begin example
\showgrid
\setuphead[chapter][before={\blank[force,2*line]}]
\starttext
\chapter{Knuth}
\writetolist[chapter]{}{}\GotoPar
\input knuth
\stoptext
end example
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Indentation within footnotes
On 03/15/2015 07:36 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 10:29:25 -0600, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
On 03/15/2015 03:16 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:
[...]
will give me what I want. But can anyone explain why *both* commands are
needed? Toggling these two commands doesn't work.
\setupindenting[big,yes]
\startsetups[footnote:indenting]
\setupindenting[big,yes]
\stopsetups
\setupheads[indentnext=no]
\setupnote[footnote][setups=footnote:indenting]
\setupnotation[footnote][indenting=yes,next]
Fortunately, it's much easier that that ;-)
% Argument to after= controls vertical space between notes
\setupnotation
[footnote][before={\setupwhitespace[big]},indenting={yes,big},after={\blank[small]}]
Hi Idris,
I’m not sure whether this is clearer to me. It seems that your approach
enables indenting by setting vertical space in paragraphs.
I may be missing something, since I’d bet that the setups for notes
approach is clearer.
(you are a ConTeXt expert and I’m only a long-term newbie :-))
Well, all users are long-term ConTeXt newbies, now and forever... The only
exception is Wolfgang ;-)
And I still suspect Wolfgang is just Hans in disguise :D
Good point.
It is Hans in his Superman disguise , :D.
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[NTG-context] Now that I have something working on mkiv, I'd like to try ePUB
Now that I have my book project basically running on mkiv (the layout probably has a few problems left, the main one currently being extra whitespace after a chapter heading compared to mkii), I’d like to try producing ePUB from it. ConTeXtgarden says I have to add a backend and points me to the info on the standard project structure (which I use), but there I don’t find anything about a backend. The extended example says that starting january 2015, things have changed with ePUB, which probably also applies to me as I only recently started with a fresh download of a current ConTeXt mkiv. So, can someone tell me what I need to do to get a basic ePUB output? And what command do I run to update my separate ConTeXt tree? And which one to find out what version I’m running? G ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Indentation within footnotes
And I still suspect Wolfgang is just Hans in disguise :D It is Hans in his Superman disguise , :D. The ConTeXt meetings are a great opportunity to ask BOTH Hans and Wolfgang everything that you might have wanted to know about ConTeXt (and were afraid to ask on the mailing list). Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Styling captions inside \startcombination ... \stopcombination
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 13:10:28 +0100
Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
the obvious:
\setupcombinations[style={\switchtobodyfont[8pt]}]
How about \switchtobodyfont[small] to handle nesting?
Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] Indentation within footnotes
Am 15.03.2015 um 22:58 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
isha...@colostate.edu:
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 15:43:47 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster
schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com mailto:schuster.wolfg...@gmail.com wrote:
Am 15.03.2015 um 19:19 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
isha...@colostate.edu:
Hi Pablo,
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 11:24:47 -0600, Pablo Rodriguez oi...@gmx.es wrote:
Changing indenting to {yes, next} only the third
paragraph in the footnote is indented.
My guess is that the first next is already hardwired into the footnote
mechanism. If you remove the next it should work. So this works here:
% \setupnotation[footnote][indenting={yes,big,next}]
\setupnotation[footnote][indenting={yes,big}]
When I had the next I got the same result as you.
I will show below the reason for the unexpected behaviour of the next
keyword. What you should
keep in mind is that context uses the same mechanism for enumerations,
description and note
entries.
In older versions of the mechanism indentation was set before the title and
content where placed
but this produces unwanted results when you used the “next” keyword because
the title itself
was recognised as first paragraph (see page 1). After moving the indentation
setting between
the title and the content (see page 2) the “next” keyword produced the
expected output.
The problem is now when make the title part of the first paragraph because
the indentation
is changed until we start the second paragraph and the “next” keyword
applies now to the third
paragraph.
begin example
\setuppapersize[A5]
\starttext
% Page 1
\start \setupindenting[yes,medium,next]
\noindent{\bf Description Title}
\input knuth
\stop
\page
% Page 2
\start
\noindent{\bf Description Title}
\setupindenting[yes,medium,next]
\input knuth
\stop
\page
% Page 3
\start
\noindent{\bf Description Title}
\setupindenting[yes,medium,next]
\input knuth
\stop
\stoptext
end example
Thanks, Wolfgang -- or is it Hans? ;-) -- for this very instructive example!
I just made one change: \noindentation instead of \noindent (my understanding
is that we're supposed to avoid very low-level indenting commands).
So the first paragraph of a footnote insertion contains an implicit title, or
does the footnote numeral function as title? Anyway, very interesting!
The footnote number is placed as title.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] mkiv versus mkii: whitespace issues
Am 15.03.2015 um 15:57 schrieb Gerben Wierda gerben.wie...@rna.nl:
The itemize white space issue was a difference in handling \reference. In
mkii a \reference between \startitemize and the first item did not produce
empty space, in mkiv it does. I moved the \reference to inside the \item
For numbered items you can use the optional argument of \item to set a
reference.
\starttext
\startitemize[n]
\item[item:one] First item
\item[item:two] Second item
\stopitemize
\page
Take a look at \in{item}[item:two] on \at{page}[item:two].
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Exporting highlights
On Sun, 15 Mar 2015, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:
[Dear Aditya, I sent this to the list; sending it to you to have a look as
well. Any assistance is much appreciated, especially if I have to go the xslt
route! Thanks in advance!!]
It has been almost 1.5 years since I had a serious look at XML generated
by ConTeXt. At that time, ConTeXt did not generate XHTML, so I thought
that one has to go through the XLST route. But, it looks that things have
changed.
===export-highlight-div.xhtml
div class=paragraphThis is div class=highlight
emphasisemphasis/div. This is div class=highlight
importantimportant/div. This is div class=highlight
regularregular/div.div class=break!--empty--/div
This is div class=highlight emphasissome emphasized text, with div
class=highlight regularregular/div in between/div.div
class=break!--empty--/div
This is div class=highlight importantsome important text, with div
class=highlight regularregular/div in between/div./div
=
This is very well formed XHTML. You just need a proper CSS stylesheet to
do the correct rednering. Something like:
.highlight.important {
font-weight: bold;
}
.highlight.emphasis {
font-style: italic;
}
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