Re: [NTG-context] colored column

2009-01-20 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 18.01.2009 um 17:09 schrieb Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini:


This doesn't work! Try


\letvalue{!tk<\string C>}=\undefined

\NewFormatKey C#1%
  {\ReadFormatKeys b{\localstartcolor[#1]\bgroup} a{\egroup 
\localstopcolor}}



\starttable[o1|C{red}|c|]
\VL red \VL should be black \VL\SR
\stoptable


Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] colored column

2009-01-20 Thread Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini
Hallo Hans,

> > > What is the problem here?
> >
> > maybe a typo? \{C{red} looks weird
> > 
> 
> See:
> ---
> % Key "\{": Enclose template in braces.
> \NewFormatKey \{{%
>   \!taDataColumnTemplate=\!thx{\!thx{\the\!taDataColumnTemplate}}%
>   \ReadFormatKeys}
> ---
> in thrd-tab.tex

Will this FormatKey be repaired?

If yes, I would keep this in my example collection.

Gruß, Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] backgrounds: help needed

2009-01-20 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 20.01.2009 um 23:51 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:


I, too, do not understand the
\definetextbackground
\starttextbackground
\stoptextbackground
commands, even though I tried looking at "details.pdf" (and core- 
pgr.tex).
My particular problem is rather classic, that of illustrating  
examples, set off from the main text.

I first used
\defineframedtext [example]
[width=fit,background=screen,backgroundscreen=0.7]
\startexample
...
\stopexample
and this is appropriate if the example is short enough to fit on one  
page.
However, a long example (many paragraphs) that spans more than one  
page

runs off the bottom.
Textbackground seems more appropriate, so I tried
\definetextbackground [example]
[location=paragraph,backgroundcolor=middlegray,frame=off]
\definestartstop [example]
[before={\starttextbackground[example]},after=\stoptextbackground]
but this does not work. I tried other variants (such as adding  
state=start, ...) with no success.
Does anyone have suggestions on where to look for further  
documentation or examples of use?



This works for me.

\setupcolors[state=start]

\definetextbackground
  [example]
  [location=paragraph,
   background=color,
   backgroundcolor=middlegray,
   frame=off]

\starttext

\input knuth

\startexample
\dorecurse{4}{\input knuth\par}
\stopexample

\input knuth

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] backgrounds: help needed

2009-01-20 Thread Alan BRASLAU
I, too, do not understand the
\definetextbackground
\starttextbackground
\stoptextbackground
commands, even though I tried looking at "details.pdf" (and core-pgr.tex).

My particular problem is rather classic, that of illustrating examples, set off 
from the main text.
I first used

\defineframedtext [example] 
[width=fit,background=screen,backgroundscreen=0.7]

\startexample
...
\stopexample

and this is appropriate if the example is short enough to fit on one page.
However, a long example (many paragraphs) that spans more than one page
runs off the bottom.
Textbackground seems more appropriate, so I tried

\definetextbackground [example] 
[location=paragraph,backgroundcolor=middlegray,frame=off]
\definestartstop [example] 
[before={\starttextbackground[example]},after=\stoptextbackground]

but this does not work. I tried other variants (such as adding state=start, 
...) with no success.

Does anyone have suggestions on where to look for further documentation or 
examples of use?
Thanks.
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[NTG-context] setupindenting

2009-01-20 Thread Cecil Westerhof
With setupindenting I can define the level of indenting. But I want a
different level of indentation for different paragraphs. How can I do
this?

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Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng

2009-01-20 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> Thanks a lot, it works. Will there be any side-effect on normal uses of 
> context?

  Definitely.  TEXFONTMAPS is the path to the various font mapping files
for dvips, (x)dvipdfm(x) and pdfTeX.  I would strongly advise against
setting that variable for normal use of the minimals.  What you could do
without tweaking with TEXFONTMAPS, is to put ps2pk.map in some directory
inside fonts/map in the minimals, together with the dvipng binary.  Best
in texmf-local, for this is the location for local changes.  But then,
you of course need to make sure that the necessary fonts are available
in the minimals, etc.

  Since you have TeX Live installed, your best bet is probably to use
the minimals with the special TEXFONTMAPS setting only for ConTeXt +
dvipng, and otherwise use the minimals only, or TeX Live only.

Arthur
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Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng

2009-01-20 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 20 janvier à 13:49:28 Arthur Reutenauer  
écrit notamment:

| >   3. export TEXFONTMAPS=/path/to/texlive/texmf-var/fonts/map/dvips
>
|   Did I write fonts/map/dvips?  It should have been fonts/map/dvips/updmap
| (or, alternatively, fonts/map/dvips// with the trailing double slash).
| And it seems to work without copying the dvipng binary, and with
| setuptex as well.  Of course your mileage may vary, but anyway, the key
| is setting TEXFONTMAPS.
>
|   Arthur

Ho yes!!
Thanks a lot, it works. Will there be any side-effect on normal uses of context?
-- 
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Re: [NTG-context] Layout for writing a letter

2009-01-20 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2009/1/20 Cecil Westerhof :
>>> I am just starting with working with ConTeXt. I was wondering if there
>>> is a good template for writing letters?
>>>
>>
>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Letter_style, perhaps?
>
> I tried the second. The shell variable $HOMETEXMF is not set on my
> system, thus I tried putting t-letterhead.tex in the same directory
> and also in /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/third. When trying to
> generate I get:
>! Undefined control sequence.
>l.5 \addressee
>  {Prof.\crlf
>
> What is going wrong?

It was an to old version I used. It was 5.2.4, on a 6.2.0 it works. I
can now taylor it to my needs.

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Re: [NTG-context] Layout for writing a letter

2009-01-20 Thread Cecil Westerhof
2009/1/20 Joseph Wright :
>> I am just starting with working with ConTeXt. I was wondering if there
>> is a good template for writing letters?
>>
>
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Letter_style, perhaps?

I tried the second. The shell variable $HOMETEXMF is not set on my
system, thus I tried putting t-letterhead.tex in the same directory
and also in /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/third. When trying to
generate I get:
! Undefined control sequence.
l.5 \addressee
  {Prof.\crlf

What is going wrong?

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Re: [NTG-context] Layout for writing a letter

2009-01-20 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 20.01.2009 um 16:53 schrieb Joseph Wright:


Cecil Westerhof wrote:
I am just starting with working with ConTeXt. I was wondering if  
there

is a good template for writing letters?


http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Letter_style, perhaps?



The list miss the style from Joe Hogg

  http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2006-3/hogg/

and the style from Karel Wesseling

  http://maps.aanhet.net/maps/pdf/28_15.pdf

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] 2NUP, spreading a table on 2 pages

2009-01-20 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


booklet.tex
Description: Binary data


Am 20.01.2009 um 16:25 schrieb Antoine Junod:


In fact my reply was a bit fast: in the example below the table is
split on pages 2 and 3. But the lines of the table are not
aligned. I'll dig the sources too see if it's possible to do that. But
if anyone has a solution, I'm interested :)


You can solve it with twopassdata and a few wrapper macros to hide
the underlying macros in your document. Take a look in my example
how this can be done.

You need the "arrange" key for texexec to let it work in imposition  
mode.


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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags

2009-01-20 Thread Bart C. Wise
On Tuesday 20 January 2009 08:19:04 am Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
> > But he did say that his
> > printing shop wants the ability to download just the header information
> > from a pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may be up to 80 mbytes.
>
>   OK.  That's not Tagged PDF.  Tagged PDF's main features focus on
> accessibility, adding information for the visually impaired (you can, for
> example, tag some text as part of the page header, by contrast to the
> page body: an application that reads the document out loud would know
> not to read that part).  It also allows better archiving (the PDF/A
> standard).  All concerns very distinct from the needs of publishers.
>
>   I'm just learning about XMP (Extensible Metadata Platform) which Luigi
> mentioned, but it doesn't really look like it contains the information
> you mention (although you can apparently add all sort of metadata,
> including images).
>
>   Actually, the kind of information the printing shop asks for is
> available in any PDF file in a straightforward way: the very format has
> been designed so that all the PDF objects can be accessed directly with
> extreme efficience (there is a cross-reference table with the byte
> offsets to every object inside the file).  Individual pages are objects
> in a PDF file; they contain references to the resources needed to render
> them (fonts, images, etc.), so the basic functionality to render each
> page individually is already present in the format.  And it's been there
> from day one -- which is, by the way, the reason why the insides of a
> PDF file look so undecipherable to the human eye: it's designed to be
> efficient to process automatically, not to be read by a programmer.  By
> contrast, an XML-based format would be (somewhat) more human-friendly,
> but much slower to parse.
>
>   There's a variation on this basic feature: if you look at a PDF file
> over the Internet, the cross-reference table isn't conveniently located
> because it is at the very end of the file; so you need to download the
> entire file before your PDF viewer can start displaying it (I think the
> argument behind that design decision was that a PDF-producing
> application only knows the entire list of objects at the end of the
> first pass, and can thus output the whole file sequentially in a single
> pass.  Of course that clashes directly with the needs of PDF-consuming
> applications).  To circumvent this, Adobe devised a special type of
> object that contains the same information as the cross-reference table,
> which you can put at the very beginning of the file, together with the
> material needed to render the first pages.  This is Linearized PDF
> (sometimes, confusingly enough, called "optimized" PDF).  It's rather
> unlikely that it'd be what your printer wants (I suppose the file is
> already available on disk somewhere), but in any case, Ghostscript can
> produce it with the utility pdfopt.  ConTeXt isn't able to produce it;
> it has been ruled that it was beyond the scope of pdfTeX and luaTeX.
>
> > When I get specific information from the printing shop, I'll pass it
> > along.
>
>   I'm interested, too.
>
> > But needless to say, I'm very concerned.  If tagged pdf support is not
> > available in ConTeXt/LuaTeX, I feel that difficulties are either here
> > now, or at best, looming on the horizon.
>
>   Why?  There's progress made every day.  Tagged PDF is indeed a problem
> for the moment, but it's clearly not the feature your printer asks for,
> and as a rule, you can be sure that if some functionality is essential
> to publishers, it will be added quickly to ConTeXt :-)
>

Thanks again to all for the responses.  The information has been very 
enlightening.

I have sent an optimized (I know, badly named,) PDF file off to the publisher 
and I'm waiting for his response.  From all indications on this thread, I'm 
somewhat optimistic that it will solve the problem.  I'll let you know what I 
hear back.

Thanks so much again,
Bart
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Re: [NTG-context] Layout for writing a letter

2009-01-20 Thread Joseph Wright
Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> I am just starting with working with ConTeXt. I was wondering if there
> is a good template for writing letters?
> 

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Letter_style, perhaps?
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[NTG-context] Layout for writing a letter

2009-01-20 Thread Cecil Westerhof
I am just starting with working with ConTeXt. I was wondering if there
is a good template for writing letters?

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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags

2009-01-20 Thread luigi scarso
>
>
>  I'm just learning about XMP (Extensible Metadata Platform) which Luigi
> mentioned, but it doesn't really look like it contains the information
> you mention (although you can apparently add all sort of metadata,
> including images).
>

yes and
XMP is not only for pdf :
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/xmplibrary/


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Re: [NTG-context] 2NUP, spreading a table on 2 pages

2009-01-20 Thread Antoine Junod
Antoine Junod  writes:

> Hi,
>
> Wolfgang Schuster  writes:
>
>> Am 20.01.2009 um 09:20 schrieb Antoine Junod:
>>
>>> Hello List,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to design a little booklet on the form two A5 pages on a A4
>>> sheet. It's not hard to do as it is well documented.
>>>
>>> The problem is the following: I would like to add a table (actually a
>>> people list with firstname, lastname, mobile, address and so on and so
>>> on) that is quite wide. The idea is to put it on a double page (ie,
>>> when you open the booklet, the table is on both the left and the right
>>> page).
>>>
>>> The easy way would be to 1) manually cut the table in two tables (a
>>> left one and a right one) that fit on a page and 2) to put them each
>>> on their own page, beeing sure the left one is on a left page. Here,
>>> the difficulty is to align both tables accross the pages.
>>
>>
>> How about linetables?
>>
>> \setuplinetable[nx=2,width=.125\textwidth]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \startlinetable
>> \NC firstname \NC lastname \NC phone   \NC mobile  \NC postal
>> code \NC city\NC address\NC\NR
>> \NC John  \NC Jonhsons \NC 0800/987654 \NC 0171/123456 \NC  12345
>> \NC New TeX \NC Meta street 12 \NC\NR
>> \stoplinetable
>>
>> \stoptext
>
> Excellent, thanks Wolfgang. It exactly matches my needs :)

In fact my reply was a bit fast: in the example below the table is
split on pages 2 and 3. But the lines of the table are not
aligned. I'll dig the sources too see if it's possible to do that. But
if anyone has a solution, I'm interested :)

Thanks for your help,
-AJ

 Page setup
% Use A5 pages on A4 paper
\setuppapersize[A5][A4]

% Arrange the A5 pages such that there are two of them on each A4
% sheet. They are arranged such that they can be send to the printer
% set to print on both pages, flipping on the long edge.
\setuparranging[2UP,rotated,doublesided]

% The layout of the page
\setuplayout[margin=1cm,width=middle,height=middle,topspace=0cm,backspace=1.2cm]

 Colors
% Enable the use of colors for the whole document
\setupcolors[state=start]

 Debug
% Display the layout borders
\showframe

% Display the grid
\showgrid

% Display the current layout setup value
%\showsetups

 Font
% Accept accents by default as input, like é, à and others.
\enableregime[utf]

 Beginning of the document
\starttext

\section{Le mot du président}
\dorecurse{2}{\input tufte \par}

\section{Les comptes}

\section{Les récits}
\subsection{La dora}
\subsection{Mon premier match de polo}
\subsection{La piscine}

\section{List des membres}
% magic
\setuplinetable[nx=2,width=.125\textwidth]
\startlinetable
\NC firstname \NC lastname \NC phone   \NC mobile  \NC postal
code \NC city\NC address\NC\NR
\NC John  \NC Jonhsons \NC 0800/987654 \NC 0171/123456 \NC  12345
\NC New TeX \NC Meta street 12 \NC\NR
\stoplinetable

\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags

2009-01-20 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> But he did say that his 
> printing shop wants the ability to download just the header information from 
> a 
> pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may be up to 80 mbytes.

  OK.  That's not Tagged PDF.  Tagged PDF's main features focus on
accessibility, adding information for the visually impaired (you can, for
example, tag some text as part of the page header, by contrast to the
page body: an application that reads the document out loud would know
not to read that part).  It also allows better archiving (the PDF/A
standard).  All concerns very distinct from the needs of publishers.

  I'm just learning about XMP (Extensible Metadata Platform) which Luigi
mentioned, but it doesn't really look like it contains the information
you mention (although you can apparently add all sort of metadata,
including images).

  Actually, the kind of information the printing shop asks for is
available in any PDF file in a straightforward way: the very format has
been designed so that all the PDF objects can be accessed directly with
extreme efficience (there is a cross-reference table with the byte
offsets to every object inside the file).  Individual pages are objects
in a PDF file; they contain references to the resources needed to render
them (fonts, images, etc.), so the basic functionality to render each
page individually is already present in the format.  And it's been there
from day one -- which is, by the way, the reason why the insides of a
PDF file look so undecipherable to the human eye: it's designed to be
efficient to process automatically, not to be read by a programmer.  By
contrast, an XML-based format would be (somewhat) more human-friendly,
but much slower to parse.

  There's a variation on this basic feature: if you look at a PDF file
over the Internet, the cross-reference table isn't conveniently located
because it is at the very end of the file; so you need to download the
entire file before your PDF viewer can start displaying it (I think the
argument behind that design decision was that a PDF-producing
application only knows the entire list of objects at the end of the
first pass, and can thus output the whole file sequentially in a single
pass.  Of course that clashes directly with the needs of PDF-consuming
applications).  To circumvent this, Adobe devised a special type of
object that contains the same information as the cross-reference table,
which you can put at the very beginning of the file, together with the
material needed to render the first pages.  This is Linearized PDF
(sometimes, confusingly enough, called "optimized" PDF).  It's rather
unlikely that it'd be what your printer wants (I suppose the file is
already available on disk somewhere), but in any case, Ghostscript can
produce it with the utility pdfopt.  ConTeXt isn't able to produce it;
it has been ruled that it was beyond the scope of pdfTeX and luaTeX.

> When I get specific information from the printing shop, I'll pass it along.

  I'm interested, too.

> But needless to say, I'm very concerned.  If tagged pdf support is not 
> available in ConTeXt/LuaTeX, I feel that difficulties are either here now, or 
> at 
> best, looming on the horizon.

  Why?  There's progress made every day.  Tagged PDF is indeed a problem
for the moment, but it's clearly not the feature your printer asks for,
and as a rule, you can be sure that if some functionality is essential
to publishers, it will be added quickly to ConTeXt :-)

Arthur
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags

2009-01-20 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
2009/1/20 Bart C. Wise :
> I talked to the publisher again and he said that he would send me the exact
> error message, but I have not received it yet.  But he did say that his
> printing shop wants the ability to download just the header information from a
> pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may be up to 80 mbytes.  From that
> header information they will have the ability to render individual pages
> rather than the whole document.  For example, they could request page 264 and
> render that single page as a jpeg.

This sounds like "web optimized" PDFs, those contain a second object
index at the start ("normal" PDFs have it at the end), so a *browser*
can request selected pages from the *webserver* without loading the
whole document.

It's meant as a web technology, and I never heard of anyone using it
in a print workflow. But it's not impossible.


Tha has *nothing* to do with tagged PDF!
"Tagged" is a technology to enable re-flowing text contents to e.g.
small devices or extracting of content for alternative readers, e.g.
screenreaders.
PDFs for print should *not* be tagged in this way, for it can confuse
a print workflow.

Printshops should adhere to printing standards like PDF/X-1a and
PDF/X-3 - and these never need web optimization or tagging!


Greetlings, Hraban
(printing engineer and PDF workflow techie)
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags

2009-01-20 Thread Martin Schröder
2009/1/20 Bart C. Wise :
> I talked to the publisher again and he said that he would send me the exact
> error message, but I have not received it yet.  But he did say that his
> printing shop wants the ability to download just the header information from a
> pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may be up to 80 mbytes.  From that
> header information they will have the ability to render individual pages
> rather than the whole document.  For example, they could request page 264 and
> render that single page as a jpeg.

Sounds like they are talking about linearized PDF.
pdfopt from GhostScript can generate that; and of course Acrobat.

Best
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags

2009-01-20 Thread luigi scarso
> I talked to the publisher again and he said that he would send me the exact
> error message, but I have not received it yet.  But he did say that his
> printing shop wants the ability to download just the header information
> from a
> pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may be up to 80 mbytes.  From that
> header information they will have the ability to render individual pages
> rather than the whole document.  For example, they could request page 264
> and
> render that single page as a jpeg.
>
> Note that this is information from the publisher, not the printing shop
> that
> is doing the work, so technically, the publisher's jargon may be
> inaccurate,
> but a basic understanding of the needed functionality is there.
>
> When I get specific information from the printing shop, I'll pass it along.
>
ok , I'm really interested about it .

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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags

2009-01-20 Thread Bart C. Wise
On Tue January 20 2009 4:33:27 am luigi scarso wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Arthur Reutenauer <
>
> arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org> wrote:
> > > I call that BS: I've never heard of such "meta tags" for PDF giving
> > > the page count. The page count is in the root /Pages object per PDF
> > > specification.
> >
> >   I still suspect Bart's publisher means the tags that are part of
> > Tagged PDF, even if he doesn't know their actual name, and has clearly
> > a wrong idea of what they really contain.
>
> to avoid confusione (at least to me):
> xmp and Tagged pdf are different things.

Thanks to all for the information so far, although from all indications, it 
doesn't look promising.

I talked to the publisher again and he said that he would send me the exact 
error message, but I have not received it yet.  But he did say that his 
printing shop wants the ability to download just the header information from a 
pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may be up to 80 mbytes.  From that 
header information they will have the ability to render individual pages 
rather than the whole document.  For example, they could request page 264 and 
render that single page as a jpeg.

Note that this is information from the publisher, not the printing shop that 
is doing the work, so technically, the publisher's jargon may be inaccurate, 
but a basic understanding of the needed functionality is there.

When I get specific information from the printing shop, I'll pass it along.

As a side note, I have published with them in the past, and this seems to be a 
recent change on their part. So I may be able to talk my way into letting them 
take the pdf file without the tagged information.

But needless to say, I'm very concerned.  If tagged pdf support is not 
available in ConTeXt/LuaTeX, I feel that difficulties are either here now, or 
at 
best, looming on the horizon.

Thanks so much,
Bart
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Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng

2009-01-20 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
>   3. export TEXFONTMAPS=/path/to/texlive/texmf-var/fonts/map/dvips

  Did I write fonts/map/dvips?  It should have been fonts/map/dvips/updmap
(or, alternatively, fonts/map/dvips// with the trailing double slash).
And it seems to work without copying the dvipng binary, and with
setuptex as well.  Of course your mileage may vary, but anyway, the key
is setting TEXFONTMAPS.

Arthur
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Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng

2009-01-20 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> But just copying or linking dvipng is not enough (same result); what kind
> of hack would you suggest?

  Right, I didn't test it before :-)  On my machine, it works if I use
the following configuration:

  1. Copy dvipng to the minimals' bin dir.
  2. export PATH=/path/to/the/minimals/bin:$PATH and only that (no setuptex)
  3. export TEXFONTMAPS=/path/to/texlive/texmf-var/fonts/map/dvips

  Note point 2: the only setting you need for ConTeXt to DVI to work is
the PATH; I didn't try with setuptex but I strongly suspect that you
would have problems.  Or, maybe not :-)  Of course, you can experiment
around that base configuration (maybe you don't need to copy dvipng at
all, etc.).

Arthur
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Re: [NTG-context] 2NUP, spreading a table on 2 pages

2009-01-20 Thread Antoine Junod
Hi,

Wolfgang Schuster  writes:

> Am 20.01.2009 um 09:20 schrieb Antoine Junod:
>
>> Hello List,
>>
>> I'm trying to design a little booklet on the form two A5 pages on a A4
>> sheet. It's not hard to do as it is well documented.
>>
>> The problem is the following: I would like to add a table (actually a
>> people list with firstname, lastname, mobile, address and so on and so
>> on) that is quite wide. The idea is to put it on a double page (ie,
>> when you open the booklet, the table is on both the left and the right
>> page).
>>
>> The easy way would be to 1) manually cut the table in two tables (a
>> left one and a right one) that fit on a page and 2) to put them each
>> on their own page, beeing sure the left one is on a left page. Here,
>> the difficulty is to align both tables accross the pages.
>
>
> How about linetables?
>
> \setuplinetable[nx=2,width=.125\textwidth]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startlinetable
> \NC firstname \NC lastname \NC phone   \NC mobile  \NC postal
> code \NC city\NC address\NC\NR
> \NC John  \NC Jonhsons \NC 0800/987654 \NC 0171/123456 \NC  12345
> \NC New TeX \NC Meta street 12 \NC\NR
> \stoplinetable
>
> \stoptext

Excellent, thanks Wolfgang. It exactly matches my needs :)

All the best,
-AJ
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Re: [NTG-context] 2NUP, spreading a table on 2 pages

2009-01-20 Thread Wolfgang Schuster


Am 20.01.2009 um 09:20 schrieb Antoine Junod:


Hello List,

I'm trying to design a little booklet on the form two A5 pages on a A4
sheet. It's not hard to do as it is well documented.

The problem is the following: I would like to add a table (actually a
people list with firstname, lastname, mobile, address and so on and so
on) that is quite wide. The idea is to put it on a double page (ie,
when you open the booklet, the table is on both the left and the right
page).

The easy way would be to 1) manually cut the table in two tables (a
left one and a right one) that fit on a page and 2) to put them each
on their own page, beeing sure the left one is on a left page. Here,
the difficulty is to align both tables accross the pages.



How about linetables?

\setuplinetable[nx=2,width=.125\textwidth]

\starttext

\startlinetable
\NC firstname \NC lastname \NC phone   \NC mobile  \NC postal  
code \NC city\NC address\NC\NR
\NC John  \NC Jonhsons \NC 0800/987654 \NC 0171/123456 \NC  
12345   \NC New TeX \NC Meta street 12 \NC\NR

\stoplinetable

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags

2009-01-20 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Arthur Reutenauer <
arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org> wrote:

> > I call that BS: I've never heard of such "meta tags" for PDF giving
> > the page count. The page count is in the root /Pages object per PDF
> > specification.
>
>   I still suspect Bart's publisher means the tags that are part of
> Tagged PDF, even if he doesn't know their actual name, and has clearly
> a wrong idea of what they really contain.
>

to avoid confusione (at least to me):
xmp and Tagged pdf are different things.
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags

2009-01-20 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> I call that BS: I've never heard of such "meta tags" for PDF giving
> the page count. The page count is in the root /Pages object per PDF
> specification.

  I still suspect Bart's publisher means the tags that are part of
Tagged PDF, even if he doesn't know their actual name, and has clearly
a wrong idea of what they really contain.

  The bad news is, TeX's support for Tagged PDF is very weak.  There
have been some experiments by Han The Thanh recently, but no general
progress that I am aware of.  In any case, generating fully tagged PDF
would need a lot of collaboration between the engine and the macro
package.

> This "meta tags" BS sounds suspiciously like PostScript DSC.

  A bit, but the guy also asks for "header information", which sounds
more like the kind of information you put between PDF's BDC / EMC
operators.

Arthur
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Re: [NTG-context] 2NUP, spreading a table on 2 pages

2009-01-20 Thread Antoine Junod
Hi,

"Diego Depaoli"  writes:

> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Antoine Junod  wrote:
>> Hello List,
>>
>> I'm trying to design a little booklet on the form two A5 pages on a A4
>> sheet. It's not hard to do as it is well documented.
>>
>> The problem is the following: I would like to add a table (actually a
>> people list with firstname, lastname, mobile, address and so on and so
>> on) that is quite wide. The idea is to put it on a double page (ie,
>> when you open the booklet, the table is on both the left and the right
>> page).
>>
>> The easy way would be to 1) manually cut the table in two tables (a
>> left one and a right one) that fit on a page and 2) to put them each
>> on their own page, beeing sure the left one is on a left page. Here,
>> the difficulty is to align both tables accross the pages.
>>
>> Another way would be to ask context to do that by himself. Is there a
>> way to do that?
>
> look here
> http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080623.074757.6c4176a1.en.html
> Hope that helps

Thanks Diego, it seems to do exactly what I need :)

A+
-AJ
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Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng

2009-01-20 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 20 janvier à 09:25:29 Arthur Reutenauer  
écrit notamment:

| > But if I dvipng in the TL environment, it works like a charm. So what
| > should I add to my minimals install, or do to have all the TL stuff not
| > forgotten when I use minimals?
>
|   dvipng is not part of the minimals at all, which means you're probably
| using it from TL's path, where it can't find the minimals' fonts.  If
| you're ready to hack a bit, just copy dvipng to the minimals' path.

Well Arthur, thanks!

But just copying or linking dvipng is not enough (same result); what kind
of hack would you suggest?

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Re: [NTG-context] 2NUP, spreading a table on 2 pages

2009-01-20 Thread Diego Depaoli
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Antoine Junod  wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> I'm trying to design a little booklet on the form two A5 pages on a A4
> sheet. It's not hard to do as it is well documented.
>
> The problem is the following: I would like to add a table (actually a
> people list with firstname, lastname, mobile, address and so on and so
> on) that is quite wide. The idea is to put it on a double page (ie,
> when you open the booklet, the table is on both the left and the right
> page).
>
> The easy way would be to 1) manually cut the table in two tables (a
> left one and a right one) that fit on a page and 2) to put them each
> on their own page, beeing sure the left one is on a left page. Here,
> the difficulty is to align both tables accross the pages.
>
> Another way would be to ask context to do that by himself. Is there a
> way to do that?
look here
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080623.074757.6c4176a1.en.html
Hope that helps


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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags

2009-01-20 Thread luigi scarso
> whatsoever.  We need the tags that give page separations, page count,
header
> info, etc.
"header info" can call for xmp ?



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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags

2009-01-20 Thread Martin Schröder
2009/1/20 Bart C. Wise :
> [The PDF generator] you used flattens the file such that is has no meta tags
> whatsoever.  We need the tags that give page separations, page count, header
> info, etc.

I call that BS: I've never heard of such "meta tags" for PDF giving
the page count. The page count is in the root /Pages object per PDF
specification.

This "meta tags" BS sounds suspiciously like PostScript DSC.

Best
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[NTG-context] 2NUP, spreading a table on 2 pages

2009-01-20 Thread Antoine Junod
Hello List,

I'm trying to design a little booklet on the form two A5 pages on a A4
sheet. It's not hard to do as it is well documented.

The problem is the following: I would like to add a table (actually a
people list with firstname, lastname, mobile, address and so on and so
on) that is quite wide. The idea is to put it on a double page (ie,
when you open the booklet, the table is on both the left and the right
page).

The easy way would be to 1) manually cut the table in two tables (a
left one and a right one) that fit on a page and 2) to put them each
on their own page, beeing sure the left one is on a left page. Here,
the difficulty is to align both tables accross the pages.

Another way would be to ask context to do that by himself. Is there a
way to do that?

Thanks for your reply,
-AJ

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Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng

2009-01-20 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> But if I dvipng in the TL environment, it works like a charm. So what
> should I add to my minimals install, or do to have all the TL stuff not
> forgotten when I use minimals?

  dvipng is not part of the minimals at all, which means you're probably
using it from TL's path, where it can't find the minimals' fonts.  If
you're ready to hack a bit, just copy dvipng to the minimals' path.

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[NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng

2009-01-20 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Hi all,

My TeX setup: TeXLive (systemwide) for evetything but ConTeXt, and the
minimals for ConTeXt, in my userspace.

I have some issues using dvipng with minimals.

I first compile this file with texexec:
..
\setupoutput[dvi]
\enableregime[utf]
\starttext
\startTEXpage
$
SP=\int_0^{Q_0}(p_0-Cm(Q))dQ
$
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext
..

In the minimals environment, dvipng says: 
..  

This is dvipng 1.11 Copyright 2002-2008 Jan-Ake Larsson dvipng warning:
cannot find ps2pk.map, nor psfonts.map [1dvipng warning: font rm-lmr12 at
400 dpi not found, characters will be left blank dvipng warning: font
rm-lmr7 at 400 dpi not found, characters will be left blank dvipng
warning: font rm-lmr9 at 400 dpi not found, characters will be left blank
dvipng warning: unable to draw glyph 61, skipping dvipng warning: unable
to draw glyph 48, skipping dvipng warning: unable to draw glyph 48,
skipping dvipng warning: unable to draw glyph 40, skipping dvipng warning:
unable to draw glyph 48, skipping dvipng warning: unable to draw glyph 40,
skipping dvipng warning: unable to draw glyph 41, skipping dvipng warning:
unable to draw glyph 41, skipping ]

..

And the output is awful!!

But if I dvipng in the TL environment, it works like a charm. So what
should I add to my minimals install, or do to have all the TL stuff not
forgotten when I use minimals?

tia,
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags

2009-01-20 Thread luigi scarso
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Bart C. Wise
wrote:

> On Mon January 19 2009 10:06:37 pm Bart C. Wise wrote:
> > I received the following message from a publisher:
> >
> > [The PDF generator] you used flattens the file such that is has no meta
> > tags whatsoever.  We need the tags that give page separations, page
> count,
> > header info, etc.
> >
> > How do I get those meta tags enabled?
> > Would setting \interaction[state=start] do what's needed?
> >
> > Running minimals-beta.
> Running ConTeXt/LuaTeX.
>
Hi bart,
I can't help you
but I remember this
http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/pdfx


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