Re: [NTG-context] colored column
Am 18.01.2009 um 17:09 schrieb Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini: This doesn't work! Try \letvalue{!tk<\string C>}=\undefined \NewFormatKey C#1% {\ReadFormatKeys b{\localstartcolor[#1]\bgroup} a{\egroup \localstopcolor}} \starttable[o1|C{red}|c|] \VL red \VL should be black \VL\SR \stoptable Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] colored column
Hallo Hans, > > > What is the problem here? > > > > maybe a typo? \{C{red} looks weird > > > > See: > --- > % Key "\{": Enclose template in braces. > \NewFormatKey \{{% > \!taDataColumnTemplate=\!thx{\!thx{\the\!taDataColumnTemplate}}% > \ReadFormatKeys} > --- > in thrd-tab.tex Will this FormatKey be repaired? If yes, I would keep this in my example collection. Gruß, Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] backgrounds: help needed
Am 20.01.2009 um 23:51 schrieb Alan BRASLAU: I, too, do not understand the \definetextbackground \starttextbackground \stoptextbackground commands, even though I tried looking at "details.pdf" (and core- pgr.tex). My particular problem is rather classic, that of illustrating examples, set off from the main text. I first used \defineframedtext [example] [width=fit,background=screen,backgroundscreen=0.7] \startexample ... \stopexample and this is appropriate if the example is short enough to fit on one page. However, a long example (many paragraphs) that spans more than one page runs off the bottom. Textbackground seems more appropriate, so I tried \definetextbackground [example] [location=paragraph,backgroundcolor=middlegray,frame=off] \definestartstop [example] [before={\starttextbackground[example]},after=\stoptextbackground] but this does not work. I tried other variants (such as adding state=start, ...) with no success. Does anyone have suggestions on where to look for further documentation or examples of use? This works for me. \setupcolors[state=start] \definetextbackground [example] [location=paragraph, background=color, backgroundcolor=middlegray, frame=off] \starttext \input knuth \startexample \dorecurse{4}{\input knuth\par} \stopexample \input knuth \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] backgrounds: help needed
I, too, do not understand the \definetextbackground \starttextbackground \stoptextbackground commands, even though I tried looking at "details.pdf" (and core-pgr.tex). My particular problem is rather classic, that of illustrating examples, set off from the main text. I first used \defineframedtext [example] [width=fit,background=screen,backgroundscreen=0.7] \startexample ... \stopexample and this is appropriate if the example is short enough to fit on one page. However, a long example (many paragraphs) that spans more than one page runs off the bottom. Textbackground seems more appropriate, so I tried \definetextbackground [example] [location=paragraph,backgroundcolor=middlegray,frame=off] \definestartstop [example] [before={\starttextbackground[example]},after=\stoptextbackground] but this does not work. I tried other variants (such as adding state=start, ...) with no success. Does anyone have suggestions on where to look for further documentation or examples of use? Thanks. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] setupindenting
With setupindenting I can define the level of indenting. But I want a different level of indentation for different paragraphs. How can I do this? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng
> Thanks a lot, it works. Will there be any side-effect on normal uses of > context? Definitely. TEXFONTMAPS is the path to the various font mapping files for dvips, (x)dvipdfm(x) and pdfTeX. I would strongly advise against setting that variable for normal use of the minimals. What you could do without tweaking with TEXFONTMAPS, is to put ps2pk.map in some directory inside fonts/map in the minimals, together with the dvipng binary. Best in texmf-local, for this is the location for local changes. But then, you of course need to make sure that the necessary fonts are available in the minimals, etc. Since you have TeX Live installed, your best bet is probably to use the minimals with the special TEXFONTMAPS setting only for ConTeXt + dvipng, and otherwise use the minimals only, or TeX Live only. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng
Le 20 janvier à 13:49:28 Arthur Reutenauer écrit notamment: | > 3. export TEXFONTMAPS=/path/to/texlive/texmf-var/fonts/map/dvips > | Did I write fonts/map/dvips? It should have been fonts/map/dvips/updmap | (or, alternatively, fonts/map/dvips// with the trailing double slash). | And it seems to work without copying the dvipng binary, and with | setuptex as well. Of course your mileage may vary, but anyway, the key | is setting TEXFONTMAPS. > | Arthur Ho yes!! Thanks a lot, it works. Will there be any side-effect on normal uses of context? -- Jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Layout for writing a letter
2009/1/20 Cecil Westerhof : >>> I am just starting with working with ConTeXt. I was wondering if there >>> is a good template for writing letters? >>> >> >> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Letter_style, perhaps? > > I tried the second. The shell variable $HOMETEXMF is not set on my > system, thus I tried putting t-letterhead.tex in the same directory > and also in /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/third. When trying to > generate I get: >! Undefined control sequence. >l.5 \addressee > {Prof.\crlf > > What is going wrong? It was an to old version I used. It was 5.2.4, on a 6.2.0 it works. I can now taylor it to my needs. -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Layout for writing a letter
2009/1/20 Joseph Wright : >> I am just starting with working with ConTeXt. I was wondering if there >> is a good template for writing letters? >> > > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Letter_style, perhaps? I tried the second. The shell variable $HOMETEXMF is not set on my system, thus I tried putting t-letterhead.tex in the same directory and also in /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/third. When trying to generate I get: ! Undefined control sequence. l.5 \addressee {Prof.\crlf What is going wrong? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Layout for writing a letter
Am 20.01.2009 um 16:53 schrieb Joseph Wright: Cecil Westerhof wrote: I am just starting with working with ConTeXt. I was wondering if there is a good template for writing letters? http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Letter_style, perhaps? The list miss the style from Joe Hogg http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2006-3/hogg/ and the style from Karel Wesseling http://maps.aanhet.net/maps/pdf/28_15.pdf Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 2NUP, spreading a table on 2 pages
booklet.tex Description: Binary data Am 20.01.2009 um 16:25 schrieb Antoine Junod: In fact my reply was a bit fast: in the example below the table is split on pages 2 and 3. But the lines of the table are not aligned. I'll dig the sources too see if it's possible to do that. But if anyone has a solution, I'm interested :) You can solve it with twopassdata and a few wrapper macros to hide the underlying macros in your document. Take a look in my example how this can be done. You need the "arrange" key for texexec to let it work in imposition mode. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags
On Tuesday 20 January 2009 08:19:04 am Arthur Reutenauer wrote: > > But he did say that his > > printing shop wants the ability to download just the header information > > from a pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may be up to 80 mbytes. > > OK. That's not Tagged PDF. Tagged PDF's main features focus on > accessibility, adding information for the visually impaired (you can, for > example, tag some text as part of the page header, by contrast to the > page body: an application that reads the document out loud would know > not to read that part). It also allows better archiving (the PDF/A > standard). All concerns very distinct from the needs of publishers. > > I'm just learning about XMP (Extensible Metadata Platform) which Luigi > mentioned, but it doesn't really look like it contains the information > you mention (although you can apparently add all sort of metadata, > including images). > > Actually, the kind of information the printing shop asks for is > available in any PDF file in a straightforward way: the very format has > been designed so that all the PDF objects can be accessed directly with > extreme efficience (there is a cross-reference table with the byte > offsets to every object inside the file). Individual pages are objects > in a PDF file; they contain references to the resources needed to render > them (fonts, images, etc.), so the basic functionality to render each > page individually is already present in the format. And it's been there > from day one -- which is, by the way, the reason why the insides of a > PDF file look so undecipherable to the human eye: it's designed to be > efficient to process automatically, not to be read by a programmer. By > contrast, an XML-based format would be (somewhat) more human-friendly, > but much slower to parse. > > There's a variation on this basic feature: if you look at a PDF file > over the Internet, the cross-reference table isn't conveniently located > because it is at the very end of the file; so you need to download the > entire file before your PDF viewer can start displaying it (I think the > argument behind that design decision was that a PDF-producing > application only knows the entire list of objects at the end of the > first pass, and can thus output the whole file sequentially in a single > pass. Of course that clashes directly with the needs of PDF-consuming > applications). To circumvent this, Adobe devised a special type of > object that contains the same information as the cross-reference table, > which you can put at the very beginning of the file, together with the > material needed to render the first pages. This is Linearized PDF > (sometimes, confusingly enough, called "optimized" PDF). It's rather > unlikely that it'd be what your printer wants (I suppose the file is > already available on disk somewhere), but in any case, Ghostscript can > produce it with the utility pdfopt. ConTeXt isn't able to produce it; > it has been ruled that it was beyond the scope of pdfTeX and luaTeX. > > > When I get specific information from the printing shop, I'll pass it > > along. > > I'm interested, too. > > > But needless to say, I'm very concerned. If tagged pdf support is not > > available in ConTeXt/LuaTeX, I feel that difficulties are either here > > now, or at best, looming on the horizon. > > Why? There's progress made every day. Tagged PDF is indeed a problem > for the moment, but it's clearly not the feature your printer asks for, > and as a rule, you can be sure that if some functionality is essential > to publishers, it will be added quickly to ConTeXt :-) > Thanks again to all for the responses. The information has been very enlightening. I have sent an optimized (I know, badly named,) PDF file off to the publisher and I'm waiting for his response. From all indications on this thread, I'm somewhat optimistic that it will solve the problem. I'll let you know what I hear back. Thanks so much again, Bart ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Layout for writing a letter
Cecil Westerhof wrote: > I am just starting with working with ConTeXt. I was wondering if there > is a good template for writing letters? > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Letter_style, perhaps? -- Joseph Wright ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Layout for writing a letter
I am just starting with working with ConTeXt. I was wondering if there is a good template for writing letters? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags
> > > I'm just learning about XMP (Extensible Metadata Platform) which Luigi > mentioned, but it doesn't really look like it contains the information > you mention (although you can apparently add all sort of metadata, > including images). > yes and XMP is not only for pdf : http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/xmplibrary/ -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 2NUP, spreading a table on 2 pages
Antoine Junod writes: > Hi, > > Wolfgang Schuster writes: > >> Am 20.01.2009 um 09:20 schrieb Antoine Junod: >> >>> Hello List, >>> >>> I'm trying to design a little booklet on the form two A5 pages on a A4 >>> sheet. It's not hard to do as it is well documented. >>> >>> The problem is the following: I would like to add a table (actually a >>> people list with firstname, lastname, mobile, address and so on and so >>> on) that is quite wide. The idea is to put it on a double page (ie, >>> when you open the booklet, the table is on both the left and the right >>> page). >>> >>> The easy way would be to 1) manually cut the table in two tables (a >>> left one and a right one) that fit on a page and 2) to put them each >>> on their own page, beeing sure the left one is on a left page. Here, >>> the difficulty is to align both tables accross the pages. >> >> >> How about linetables? >> >> \setuplinetable[nx=2,width=.125\textwidth] >> >> \starttext >> >> \startlinetable >> \NC firstname \NC lastname \NC phone \NC mobile \NC postal >> code \NC city\NC address\NC\NR >> \NC John \NC Jonhsons \NC 0800/987654 \NC 0171/123456 \NC 12345 >> \NC New TeX \NC Meta street 12 \NC\NR >> \stoplinetable >> >> \stoptext > > Excellent, thanks Wolfgang. It exactly matches my needs :) In fact my reply was a bit fast: in the example below the table is split on pages 2 and 3. But the lines of the table are not aligned. I'll dig the sources too see if it's possible to do that. But if anyone has a solution, I'm interested :) Thanks for your help, -AJ Page setup % Use A5 pages on A4 paper \setuppapersize[A5][A4] % Arrange the A5 pages such that there are two of them on each A4 % sheet. They are arranged such that they can be send to the printer % set to print on both pages, flipping on the long edge. \setuparranging[2UP,rotated,doublesided] % The layout of the page \setuplayout[margin=1cm,width=middle,height=middle,topspace=0cm,backspace=1.2cm] Colors % Enable the use of colors for the whole document \setupcolors[state=start] Debug % Display the layout borders \showframe % Display the grid \showgrid % Display the current layout setup value %\showsetups Font % Accept accents by default as input, like é, à and others. \enableregime[utf] Beginning of the document \starttext \section{Le mot du président} \dorecurse{2}{\input tufte \par} \section{Les comptes} \section{Les récits} \subsection{La dora} \subsection{Mon premier match de polo} \subsection{La piscine} \section{List des membres} % magic \setuplinetable[nx=2,width=.125\textwidth] \startlinetable \NC firstname \NC lastname \NC phone \NC mobile \NC postal code \NC city\NC address\NC\NR \NC John \NC Jonhsons \NC 0800/987654 \NC 0171/123456 \NC 12345 \NC New TeX \NC Meta street 12 \NC\NR \stoplinetable \stoptext ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags
> But he did say that his > printing shop wants the ability to download just the header information from > a > pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may be up to 80 mbytes. OK. That's not Tagged PDF. Tagged PDF's main features focus on accessibility, adding information for the visually impaired (you can, for example, tag some text as part of the page header, by contrast to the page body: an application that reads the document out loud would know not to read that part). It also allows better archiving (the PDF/A standard). All concerns very distinct from the needs of publishers. I'm just learning about XMP (Extensible Metadata Platform) which Luigi mentioned, but it doesn't really look like it contains the information you mention (although you can apparently add all sort of metadata, including images). Actually, the kind of information the printing shop asks for is available in any PDF file in a straightforward way: the very format has been designed so that all the PDF objects can be accessed directly with extreme efficience (there is a cross-reference table with the byte offsets to every object inside the file). Individual pages are objects in a PDF file; they contain references to the resources needed to render them (fonts, images, etc.), so the basic functionality to render each page individually is already present in the format. And it's been there from day one -- which is, by the way, the reason why the insides of a PDF file look so undecipherable to the human eye: it's designed to be efficient to process automatically, not to be read by a programmer. By contrast, an XML-based format would be (somewhat) more human-friendly, but much slower to parse. There's a variation on this basic feature: if you look at a PDF file over the Internet, the cross-reference table isn't conveniently located because it is at the very end of the file; so you need to download the entire file before your PDF viewer can start displaying it (I think the argument behind that design decision was that a PDF-producing application only knows the entire list of objects at the end of the first pass, and can thus output the whole file sequentially in a single pass. Of course that clashes directly with the needs of PDF-consuming applications). To circumvent this, Adobe devised a special type of object that contains the same information as the cross-reference table, which you can put at the very beginning of the file, together with the material needed to render the first pages. This is Linearized PDF (sometimes, confusingly enough, called "optimized" PDF). It's rather unlikely that it'd be what your printer wants (I suppose the file is already available on disk somewhere), but in any case, Ghostscript can produce it with the utility pdfopt. ConTeXt isn't able to produce it; it has been ruled that it was beyond the scope of pdfTeX and luaTeX. > When I get specific information from the printing shop, I'll pass it along. I'm interested, too. > But needless to say, I'm very concerned. If tagged pdf support is not > available in ConTeXt/LuaTeX, I feel that difficulties are either here now, or > at > best, looming on the horizon. Why? There's progress made every day. Tagged PDF is indeed a problem for the moment, but it's clearly not the feature your printer asks for, and as a rule, you can be sure that if some functionality is essential to publishers, it will be added quickly to ConTeXt :-) Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags
2009/1/20 Bart C. Wise : > I talked to the publisher again and he said that he would send me the exact > error message, but I have not received it yet. But he did say that his > printing shop wants the ability to download just the header information from a > pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may be up to 80 mbytes. From that > header information they will have the ability to render individual pages > rather than the whole document. For example, they could request page 264 and > render that single page as a jpeg. This sounds like "web optimized" PDFs, those contain a second object index at the start ("normal" PDFs have it at the end), so a *browser* can request selected pages from the *webserver* without loading the whole document. It's meant as a web technology, and I never heard of anyone using it in a print workflow. But it's not impossible. Tha has *nothing* to do with tagged PDF! "Tagged" is a technology to enable re-flowing text contents to e.g. small devices or extracting of content for alternative readers, e.g. screenreaders. PDFs for print should *not* be tagged in this way, for it can confuse a print workflow. Printshops should adhere to printing standards like PDF/X-1a and PDF/X-3 - and these never need web optimization or tagging! Greetlings, Hraban (printing engineer and PDF workflow techie) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags
2009/1/20 Bart C. Wise : > I talked to the publisher again and he said that he would send me the exact > error message, but I have not received it yet. But he did say that his > printing shop wants the ability to download just the header information from a > pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may be up to 80 mbytes. From that > header information they will have the ability to render individual pages > rather than the whole document. For example, they could request page 264 and > render that single page as a jpeg. Sounds like they are talking about linearized PDF. pdfopt from GhostScript can generate that; and of course Acrobat. Best Martin ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags
> I talked to the publisher again and he said that he would send me the exact > error message, but I have not received it yet. But he did say that his > printing shop wants the ability to download just the header information > from a > pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may be up to 80 mbytes. From that > header information they will have the ability to render individual pages > rather than the whole document. For example, they could request page 264 > and > render that single page as a jpeg. > > Note that this is information from the publisher, not the printing shop > that > is doing the work, so technically, the publisher's jargon may be > inaccurate, > but a basic understanding of the needed functionality is there. > > When I get specific information from the printing shop, I'll pass it along. > ok , I'm really interested about it . -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags
On Tue January 20 2009 4:33:27 am luigi scarso wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Arthur Reutenauer < > > arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org> wrote: > > > I call that BS: I've never heard of such "meta tags" for PDF giving > > > the page count. The page count is in the root /Pages object per PDF > > > specification. > > > > I still suspect Bart's publisher means the tags that are part of > > Tagged PDF, even if he doesn't know their actual name, and has clearly > > a wrong idea of what they really contain. > > to avoid confusione (at least to me): > xmp and Tagged pdf are different things. Thanks to all for the information so far, although from all indications, it doesn't look promising. I talked to the publisher again and he said that he would send me the exact error message, but I have not received it yet. But he did say that his printing shop wants the ability to download just the header information from a pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may be up to 80 mbytes. From that header information they will have the ability to render individual pages rather than the whole document. For example, they could request page 264 and render that single page as a jpeg. Note that this is information from the publisher, not the printing shop that is doing the work, so technically, the publisher's jargon may be inaccurate, but a basic understanding of the needed functionality is there. When I get specific information from the printing shop, I'll pass it along. As a side note, I have published with them in the past, and this seems to be a recent change on their part. So I may be able to talk my way into letting them take the pdf file without the tagged information. But needless to say, I'm very concerned. If tagged pdf support is not available in ConTeXt/LuaTeX, I feel that difficulties are either here now, or at best, looming on the horizon. Thanks so much, Bart ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng
> 3. export TEXFONTMAPS=/path/to/texlive/texmf-var/fonts/map/dvips Did I write fonts/map/dvips? It should have been fonts/map/dvips/updmap (or, alternatively, fonts/map/dvips// with the trailing double slash). And it seems to work without copying the dvipng binary, and with setuptex as well. Of course your mileage may vary, but anyway, the key is setting TEXFONTMAPS. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng
> But just copying or linking dvipng is not enough (same result); what kind > of hack would you suggest? Right, I didn't test it before :-) On my machine, it works if I use the following configuration: 1. Copy dvipng to the minimals' bin dir. 2. export PATH=/path/to/the/minimals/bin:$PATH and only that (no setuptex) 3. export TEXFONTMAPS=/path/to/texlive/texmf-var/fonts/map/dvips Note point 2: the only setting you need for ConTeXt to DVI to work is the PATH; I didn't try with setuptex but I strongly suspect that you would have problems. Or, maybe not :-) Of course, you can experiment around that base configuration (maybe you don't need to copy dvipng at all, etc.). Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 2NUP, spreading a table on 2 pages
Hi, Wolfgang Schuster writes: > Am 20.01.2009 um 09:20 schrieb Antoine Junod: > >> Hello List, >> >> I'm trying to design a little booklet on the form two A5 pages on a A4 >> sheet. It's not hard to do as it is well documented. >> >> The problem is the following: I would like to add a table (actually a >> people list with firstname, lastname, mobile, address and so on and so >> on) that is quite wide. The idea is to put it on a double page (ie, >> when you open the booklet, the table is on both the left and the right >> page). >> >> The easy way would be to 1) manually cut the table in two tables (a >> left one and a right one) that fit on a page and 2) to put them each >> on their own page, beeing sure the left one is on a left page. Here, >> the difficulty is to align both tables accross the pages. > > > How about linetables? > > \setuplinetable[nx=2,width=.125\textwidth] > > \starttext > > \startlinetable > \NC firstname \NC lastname \NC phone \NC mobile \NC postal > code \NC city\NC address\NC\NR > \NC John \NC Jonhsons \NC 0800/987654 \NC 0171/123456 \NC 12345 > \NC New TeX \NC Meta street 12 \NC\NR > \stoplinetable > > \stoptext Excellent, thanks Wolfgang. It exactly matches my needs :) All the best, -AJ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 2NUP, spreading a table on 2 pages
Am 20.01.2009 um 09:20 schrieb Antoine Junod: Hello List, I'm trying to design a little booklet on the form two A5 pages on a A4 sheet. It's not hard to do as it is well documented. The problem is the following: I would like to add a table (actually a people list with firstname, lastname, mobile, address and so on and so on) that is quite wide. The idea is to put it on a double page (ie, when you open the booklet, the table is on both the left and the right page). The easy way would be to 1) manually cut the table in two tables (a left one and a right one) that fit on a page and 2) to put them each on their own page, beeing sure the left one is on a left page. Here, the difficulty is to align both tables accross the pages. How about linetables? \setuplinetable[nx=2,width=.125\textwidth] \starttext \startlinetable \NC firstname \NC lastname \NC phone \NC mobile \NC postal code \NC city\NC address\NC\NR \NC John \NC Jonhsons \NC 0800/987654 \NC 0171/123456 \NC 12345 \NC New TeX \NC Meta street 12 \NC\NR \stoplinetable \stoptext Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Arthur Reutenauer < arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org> wrote: > > I call that BS: I've never heard of such "meta tags" for PDF giving > > the page count. The page count is in the root /Pages object per PDF > > specification. > > I still suspect Bart's publisher means the tags that are part of > Tagged PDF, even if he doesn't know their actual name, and has clearly > a wrong idea of what they really contain. > to avoid confusione (at least to me): xmp and Tagged pdf are different things. -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags
> I call that BS: I've never heard of such "meta tags" for PDF giving > the page count. The page count is in the root /Pages object per PDF > specification. I still suspect Bart's publisher means the tags that are part of Tagged PDF, even if he doesn't know their actual name, and has clearly a wrong idea of what they really contain. The bad news is, TeX's support for Tagged PDF is very weak. There have been some experiments by Han The Thanh recently, but no general progress that I am aware of. In any case, generating fully tagged PDF would need a lot of collaboration between the engine and the macro package. > This "meta tags" BS sounds suspiciously like PostScript DSC. A bit, but the guy also asks for "header information", which sounds more like the kind of information you put between PDF's BDC / EMC operators. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 2NUP, spreading a table on 2 pages
Hi, "Diego Depaoli" writes: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Antoine Junod wrote: >> Hello List, >> >> I'm trying to design a little booklet on the form two A5 pages on a A4 >> sheet. It's not hard to do as it is well documented. >> >> The problem is the following: I would like to add a table (actually a >> people list with firstname, lastname, mobile, address and so on and so >> on) that is quite wide. The idea is to put it on a double page (ie, >> when you open the booklet, the table is on both the left and the right >> page). >> >> The easy way would be to 1) manually cut the table in two tables (a >> left one and a right one) that fit on a page and 2) to put them each >> on their own page, beeing sure the left one is on a left page. Here, >> the difficulty is to align both tables accross the pages. >> >> Another way would be to ask context to do that by himself. Is there a >> way to do that? > > look here > http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080623.074757.6c4176a1.en.html > Hope that helps Thanks Diego, it seems to do exactly what I need :) A+ -AJ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng
Le 20 janvier à 09:25:29 Arthur Reutenauer écrit notamment: | > But if I dvipng in the TL environment, it works like a charm. So what | > should I add to my minimals install, or do to have all the TL stuff not | > forgotten when I use minimals? > | dvipng is not part of the minimals at all, which means you're probably | using it from TL's path, where it can't find the minimals' fonts. If | you're ready to hack a bit, just copy dvipng to the minimals' path. Well Arthur, thanks! But just copying or linking dvipng is not enough (same result); what kind of hack would you suggest? -- Jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] 2NUP, spreading a table on 2 pages
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Antoine Junod wrote: > Hello List, > > I'm trying to design a little booklet on the form two A5 pages on a A4 > sheet. It's not hard to do as it is well documented. > > The problem is the following: I would like to add a table (actually a > people list with firstname, lastname, mobile, address and so on and so > on) that is quite wide. The idea is to put it on a double page (ie, > when you open the booklet, the table is on both the left and the right > page). > > The easy way would be to 1) manually cut the table in two tables (a > left one and a right one) that fit on a page and 2) to put them each > on their own page, beeing sure the left one is on a left page. Here, > the difficulty is to align both tables accross the pages. > > Another way would be to ask context to do that by himself. Is there a > way to do that? look here http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20080623.074757.6c4176a1.en.html Hope that helps -- Diego Depaoli ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags
> whatsoever. We need the tags that give page separations, page count, header > info, etc. "header info" can call for xmp ? -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags
2009/1/20 Bart C. Wise : > [The PDF generator] you used flattens the file such that is has no meta tags > whatsoever. We need the tags that give page separations, page count, header > info, etc. I call that BS: I've never heard of such "meta tags" for PDF giving the page count. The page count is in the root /Pages object per PDF specification. This "meta tags" BS sounds suspiciously like PostScript DSC. Best Martin ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] 2NUP, spreading a table on 2 pages
Hello List, I'm trying to design a little booklet on the form two A5 pages on a A4 sheet. It's not hard to do as it is well documented. The problem is the following: I would like to add a table (actually a people list with firstname, lastname, mobile, address and so on and so on) that is quite wide. The idea is to put it on a double page (ie, when you open the booklet, the table is on both the left and the right page). The easy way would be to 1) manually cut the table in two tables (a left one and a right one) that fit on a page and 2) to put them each on their own page, beeing sure the left one is on a left page. Here, the difficulty is to align both tables accross the pages. Another way would be to ask context to do that by himself. Is there a way to do that? Thanks for your reply, -AJ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng
> But if I dvipng in the TL environment, it works like a charm. So what > should I add to my minimals install, or do to have all the TL stuff not > forgotten when I use minimals? dvipng is not part of the minimals at all, which means you're probably using it from TL's path, where it can't find the minimals' fonts. If you're ready to hack a bit, just copy dvipng to the minimals' path. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Minimals and dvipng
Hi all, My TeX setup: TeXLive (systemwide) for evetything but ConTeXt, and the minimals for ConTeXt, in my userspace. I have some issues using dvipng with minimals. I first compile this file with texexec: .. \setupoutput[dvi] \enableregime[utf] \starttext \startTEXpage $ SP=\int_0^{Q_0}(p_0-Cm(Q))dQ $ \stopTEXpage \stoptext .. In the minimals environment, dvipng says: .. This is dvipng 1.11 Copyright 2002-2008 Jan-Ake Larsson dvipng warning: cannot find ps2pk.map, nor psfonts.map [1dvipng warning: font rm-lmr12 at 400 dpi not found, characters will be left blank dvipng warning: font rm-lmr7 at 400 dpi not found, characters will be left blank dvipng warning: font rm-lmr9 at 400 dpi not found, characters will be left blank dvipng warning: unable to draw glyph 61, skipping dvipng warning: unable to draw glyph 48, skipping dvipng warning: unable to draw glyph 48, skipping dvipng warning: unable to draw glyph 40, skipping dvipng warning: unable to draw glyph 48, skipping dvipng warning: unable to draw glyph 40, skipping dvipng warning: unable to draw glyph 41, skipping dvipng warning: unable to draw glyph 41, skipping ] .. And the output is awful!! But if I dvipng in the TL environment, it works like a charm. So what should I add to my minimals install, or do to have all the TL stuff not forgotten when I use minimals? tia, -- Jean ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF Meta Tags
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:53 AM, Bart C. Wise wrote: > On Mon January 19 2009 10:06:37 pm Bart C. Wise wrote: > > I received the following message from a publisher: > > > > [The PDF generator] you used flattens the file such that is has no meta > > tags whatsoever. We need the tags that give page separations, page > count, > > header info, etc. > > > > How do I get those meta tags enabled? > > Would setting \interaction[state=start] do what's needed? > > > > Running minimals-beta. > Running ConTeXt/LuaTeX. > Hi bart, I can't help you but I remember this http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/pdfx -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___