Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-21 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/21/2008 2:22 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: > i leave it to others to react on the rest of your mail (some users have > been tuning the mechanism too) > > Hans On 11/21/2008 9:45 AM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > > Am 21.11.2008 um 16:35 schrieb Lars Huttar: > >> >&g

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-21 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/21/2008 12:01 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: > > So as far as we know, nobody has successfully used > \sethyphenatedurlbefore/after/etc. to tune the url-breaking mechanism. > Has anybody else on the list done this? > > If not, maybe the mkii implementation has never worked

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-24 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/21/2008 4:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > > hack hack hack hack > > I tried solutions with special patterns sveral times but the problem is > in mixed languages, i.e. english text mixed with url-language; there are > some limitations (in pdftex for instance the

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-24 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/24/2008 8:45 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Lars Huttar wrote: > >> Also, I don't see a way to prevent breaking between two slashes... >> unless you treat them as part of a separate hbox: >>\hbox{http://}\ForMojcaWhoLikesHacks{www.sil.org/silesr/} >> which

[NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt

2008-11-25 Thread Lars Huttar
Hello, I've been reading through the TeXbook to solidify the foundations for TeX programming. In an exercise on roman and italic text, ConTeXt seems to behave differently from what the book specifies (Plain TEX) at a fairly fundamental level. Exercise 4.1 says, "Explain how to typeset a roman wor

Re: [NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt

2008-11-25 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/25/2008 3:21 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: > When I put \show\rm in the .tex file to display the definition of the > \rm macro, and run texexec, I get: > > \rm=\protected macro: > ->\setcurrentfontstyle {rm}. > l.7 \show\rm > By contr

Re: [NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt

2008-11-25 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/25/2008 3:27 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Lars Huttar wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I've been reading through the TeXbook to solidify the foundations for >> TeX programming. In an exercise on roman and italic text, ConTeXt seems >>

Re: [NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt

2008-11-25 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/25/2008 5:37 PM, Rory Molinari wrote: > Lars Huttar wrote: > >> Thanks for the explanation. >> I hope that when the manual is finished it will make this clearer. >> Currently, the draft chapter says >> "As will be explained later, the command \rm is

Re: [NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt

2008-11-25 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/25/2008 10:15 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:29:09 -0700, Lars Huttar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> P.S. The same TeX reference reports, > > Be careful, PlainTeX is a macropaackage, just as Con

Re: [NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt

2008-11-26 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/26/2008 2:41 AM, Marcin Borkowski wrote: > Dnia Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:30:51PM -0600, Lars Huttar napisał(a): >> It makes sense for "italicness" and "serifity" to be independently >> changeable. >> What's discouraging to me as a entrant

Re: [NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt

2008-11-26 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/26/2008 7:43 AM, Lars Huttar wrote: ... > and the word "regular" in typography usually (as far as > I can tell... please enlighten) means "upright" in contrast to italic. I now see that "regular" (apparently less often) can refer to weight: "not

Re: [NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt

2008-11-26 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/26/2008 8:11 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > Lars Huttar wrote: >> Except perhaps the documentation. I have yet to find a reference that >> clearly describes what \rm is to do in ConTeXt. One responder pointed to >> http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/cont-eni.p

Re: [NTG-context] difference between TeX behavior and ConTeXt

2008-12-01 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/27/2008 3:57 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > Lars Huttar wrote: >> something like this: >> >> switch to a serif style >> >> (if that's what \rm means in ConTeXt -- I still don't know for sure). > > \rm in ConTeXT means: switch to the

[NTG-context] widow/orphan control in columns?

2008-12-02 Thread Lars Huttar
Hello, We have a document with a 2-column layout where we have section headers that keep ending up at the bottom of columns. E.g. \startsectionheading{2. Foo bar baz}\stopsectionheading where \startsectionheading is defined by: \definestartstop [sectionheading] [before={ \startalignment[mid

Re: [NTG-context] widow/orphan control in columns?

2008-12-02 Thread Lars Huttar
On 12/2/2008 1:45 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: > Hello, > > We have a document with a 2-column layout where we have section headers > that keep ending up at the bottom of columns. ... > I checked the manual [3] and command > reference [4] but couldn't find information about

[NTG-context] how to get thick and thin borders working in tables (ConTeXt)

2008-12-09 Thread Lars Huttar
Hello, We are using ConTeXt (with XeTeX engine) to typeset some tables that have borders (rules) between cells. In the previous edition of the book (which was not done in TeX), some of the lines between table cells were double, others single. This was done to show grouping of columns and rows. We

Re: [NTG-context] how to get thick and thin borders working in tables (ConTeXt)

2008-12-09 Thread Lars Huttar
On 12/9/2008 12:04 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Am 09.12.2008 um 17:48 schrieb Lars Huttar: Hello, We are using ConTeXt (with XeTeX engine) to typeset some tables that have borders (rules) between cells. In the previous edition of the book (which was not done in TeX), some of the lines

Re: [NTG-context] how to get thick and thin borders working in tables (ConTeXt)

2008-12-09 Thread Lars Huttar
On 12/9/2008 2:01 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: > On 12/9/2008 12:04 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: We applied your example to our document, and were able to get it working with thick and thin lines. Thanks very much! Now since you included double lines in your example, I've been aspiring to

Re: [NTG-context] how to get thick and thin borders working in tables (ConTeXt)

2008-12-11 Thread Lars Huttar
On 12/10/2008 4:05 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 7:07 AM, Lars Huttar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... >> However, when I try to mix double frames with single frames, I'm having >> trouble. Here is what I tried, in order to get a cell with double

Re: [NTG-context] how to get thick and thin borders working in tables (ConTeXt)

2008-12-11 Thread Lars Huttar
On 12/11/2008 3:24 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > Am 11.12.2008 um 18:05 schrieb Lars Huttar: > >> We center borders between the cells by using "enlarged" values -0.2 +/- >> k, i.e. center around -0.2. I'm not sure why -0.2 works better than >> zero,

[NTG-context] distributed / parallel TeX?

2008-12-15 Thread Lars Huttar
Hello, We've been using TeX to typeset a 1200-page book, and at that size, the time it takes to run becomes a big issue (especially with multiple passes... about 8 on average). It takes us anywhere from 80 minutes on our fastest machine, to 9 hours on our slowest laptop. So the question comes up,

Re: [NTG-context] distributed / parallel TeX?

2008-12-16 Thread Lars Huttar
On 12/16/2008 9:53 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Aditya Mahajan wrote: >> On Tue, 16 Dec 2008, Hans Hagen wrote: >> >>> Lars Huttar wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> We've been using TeX to typeset a 1200-page book, and at that size, the >&g

Re: [NTG-context] distributed / parallel TeX?

2008-12-16 Thread Lars Huttar
On 12/16/2008 2:08 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > Hi Lars, > > Lars Huttar wrote: >> Hello, >> >> We've been using TeX to typeset a 1200-page book, and at that size, the >> time it takes to run becomes a big issue (especially with multiple >> pass

Re: [NTG-context] distributed / parallel TeX?

2008-12-16 Thread Lars Huttar
On 12/16/2008 11:37 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Lars Huttar wrote: > >> We have close to 7000 mpgraphics, and they add about 15 minutes to the >> run time. > > most of them are the same so reusing them made sense > >> But the run time was already quite l

Re: [NTG-context] distributed / parallel TeX?

2008-12-16 Thread Lars Huttar
On 12/16/2008 3:31 PM, Martin Schröder wrote: > 2008/12/16 Lars Huttar : >> - You could design your document *specifically* to make the parts >> independent, so that the true and authoritative way to typeset them is >> to typeset the parts independently. (You can do

Re: [NTG-context] distributed / parallel TeX?

2008-12-16 Thread Lars Huttar
On 12/16/2008 3:15 PM, luigi scarso wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Taco Hoekwater <mailto:t...@elvenkind.com>> wrote: > > > Hi Lars, > > > Lars Huttar wrote: ... > So the question comes up, can TeX runs take

Re: [NTG-context] distributed / parallel TeX?

2008-12-17 Thread Lars Huttar
Thanks, everybody, for the discussion on running TeX distributed / in parallel. I am much educated about the state of the art. :-) Summary ... - There is plenty of optimization that normally can be done. If a ConTeXt run is taking a really long time, chances are that something is not being done a

[NTG-context] starting headings at top of column

2008-12-17 Thread Lars Huttar
Hello, I've started talking to people in charge about contributing some money to this mailing list, or the wiki, or something ... we're certainly getting a lot of help from it. Is there an org or project to contribute to? Anyway, my current challenge is this. We have a two-column layout using col

[NTG-context] error when using uniqueMPgraphics

2008-12-22 Thread Lars Huttar
On 12/16/2008 1:28 PM, Lars Huttar wrote [Re: [NTG-context] distributed / parallel TeX?]: > On 12/16/2008 11:37 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: >> Lars Huttar wrote: ... >>> The advice I received said to define each mpgraphic using >>> \startuseMPgraphic (we have about 18 of

Re: [NTG-context] error when using uniqueMPgraphics

2008-12-22 Thread Lars Huttar
On 12/22/2008 9:48 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: > On 12/16/2008 1:28 PM, Lars Huttar wrote [Re: [NTG-context] distributed > / parallel TeX?]: >> On 12/16/2008 11:37 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: >>> Lars Huttar wrote: > ... >>>> The advice I received said to define each mpg

[NTG-context] tool for reviewing hyphenation

2009-02-03 Thread Lars Huttar
Hello, We have a situation where hyphenation is an issue, due to a 2-column layout where the columns are not very wide. We've done a lot of tweaking of settings for hyphenation and interword spacing, and the result seems pretty good. In particular, there are not many cases of consecutive lines tha

Re: [NTG-context] tool for reviewing hyphenation

2009-02-03 Thread Lars Huttar
On 2/3/2009 1:29 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Lars Huttar wrote: > >> But the hyphenation is by nature somewhat volatile, so whenever we >> change something we would like to be able to easily recheck the >> hyphenation. >> And our book is over 1200 pages, so it would be

Re: [NTG-context] tool for reviewing hyphenation

2009-02-03 Thread Lars Huttar
On 2/3/2009 2:22 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Lars Huttar wrote: >> On 2/3/2009 1:29 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: >>> Lars Huttar wrote: >>> >>>> But the hyphenation is by nature somewhat volatile, so whenever we >>>> change something we would like to be ab

Re: [NTG-context] tool for reviewing hyphenation

2009-02-03 Thread Lars Huttar
On 2/3/2009 4:27 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Lars Huttar wrote: >> On 2/3/2009 3:53 PM, Martin Schröder wrote: >>> 2009/2/3 Lars Huttar : >>>> Does anyone know how to tell xdvipdfmx to enable commenting rights in >>>> the PDF it creates? Or how to add t

Re: [NTG-context] tool for reviewing hyphenation

2009-02-03 Thread Lars Huttar
On 2/3/2009 3:53 PM, Martin Schröder wrote: > 2009/2/3 Lars Huttar : >> Does anyone know how to tell xdvipdfmx to enable commenting rights in >> the PDF it creates? Or how to add these rights afterwards, without Adobe >> Acrobat? > > This is not (legally) possible. >

Re: [NTG-context] tool for reviewing hyphenation

2009-02-04 Thread Lars Huttar
On 2/4/2009 3:10 AM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: > On Tuesday 03 February 2009 22:53:08 Martin Schröder wrote: >> 2009/2/3 Lars Huttar : >>> Does anyone know how to tell xdvipdfmx to enable commenting rights in >>> the PDF it creates? Or how to add these rights afterwards

Re: [NTG-context] tool for reviewing hyphenation

2009-02-04 Thread Lars Huttar
On 2/4/2009 12:08 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: > On Wednesday 04 February 2009 17:16:12 Lars Huttar wrote: >> Can you tell me where to find Okular for Windows? I read some rumors >> that it was available, but http://okular.kde.org/download.php only gives >> instructions for comp

Re: [NTG-context] a way to implement \testcolumn in mixedcolumns

2013-11-29 Thread Lars Huttar (SIL gmail)
On 11/28/2013 1:34 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > > That macro was never meant for mixed columns. I made a variant that > works ok in mixed columns which will be in the next beta. > Excellent. I will give it a try. I see a context-setup-win64 dated 2013-11-28 19:45. Is that beta? I may wait for the next

Re: [NTG-context] a way to implement \testcolumn in mixedcolumns

2013-12-05 Thread Lars Huttar (SIL gmail)
On 12/3/2013 4:40 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 12/3/2013 3:10 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: >> ... >> Thanks again for your work on this. >> We're continually reevaluating whether we can use the beta or need to >> stick with the stable version. At the moment, it looks li

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