[NTG-context] 2*2*4
Marcin Borkowski schrieb: > What is the difference between the above? > > In particular, do I get this correctly: > > (*) 2SIDE just puts 2 pages onto one sheet, in the following order: > > 1 2 > 3 4 > ... > > (*) 2UP prepares a booklet BTW: I just wanted to say „Thank You!“ for the 2*2*4 arranging option. While our double-side printing able A3 printer pretends to support 16-page booklet generation, the only way it really worked for printing my Thesis was using this ConTeXt option (and --arrange). - Matthias ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Fun with Bibtex
On 9/25/2008 10:07 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
> Matthias Wächter wrote:
>> I would suggest you put your .bst into, say, cont-my.bst and issue
>> the command
>
>> \def\bibstyle{cont-my}
>>
>> right after executing \setupbibtex
>
> That won't work, the .aux file is written by \writeauxfile.
For whatever reason, the .aux file contained \bibstyle{cont-my} in
my tests …
> But you could replace the whole \setupbibtex command with this:
>
>\unprotect
>\def\@@pbdatabase{..your bib file ..}
>\def\bibstyle{cont-my}
>\writeauxfile
>\protect
right. So the attached would be an appropriate long-term patch then?
- Matthias
--- texmf-context/doc/context/bib/bibmod-doc.tex.orig 2006-09-15
11:52:34.0 +0200
+++ texmf-context/doc/context/bib/bibmod-doc.tex2008-09-25
11:33:30.828125000 +0200
@@ -353,6 +353,7 @@
`author' (\type{cont-au.bst}) sorts alphabetically on author and within
that on year,
`title' (\type{cont-ti.bst}) sorts alphabetically on title and then on
author and
year, and `short' (\type{cont-ab.bst}) sorts on the short key that is
generated
+ by \BIBTEX. If \type{FILE} is given, it specifies an individual
\type{.bst} file name used
by \BIBTEX.\NC\NR
\stoptabulate
--- texmf-context/tex/context/bib/t-bib.tex.orig2008-04-17
17:02:02.0 +0200
+++ texmf-context/tex/context/bib/t-bib.tex 2008-09-25 11:15:01.734375000
+0200
@@ -300,15 +300,14 @@
\def\dosetupbibtex[#1]%
{\let\@@pbdatabase\empty
- \let\@@pbsort\empty
- \getparameters[\??pb][#1]%
+ \getparameters[\??pb][sort=\s!default,#1]%
\expanded{\processaction[\@@pbsort]}
[ \v!no=>\def\bibstyle{cont-no},
\v!author=>\def\bibstyle{cont-au},
\v!title=>\def\bibstyle{cont-ti},
\v!short=>\def\bibstyle{cont-ab},
\s!default=>\def\bibstyle{cont-no},
- \s!unknown=>\def\bibstyle{cont-no}]%
+ \s!unknown=>\def\bibstyle{\@@pbsort}]%
\ifx\@@pbdatabase\empty\else \writeauxfile \fi}
\dosetupbibtex[bibtex=bibtex]
--- texmf-context/tex/context/interface/t-bib.xml.orig 2006-09-15
11:52:06.0 +0200
+++ texmf-context/tex/context/interface/t-bib.xml 2008-09-25
11:27:16.953125000 +0200
@@ -266,6 +266,7 @@
+
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Re: [NTG-context] Fun with Bibtex
On 9/24/2008 11:01 PM, Peter Daum wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I'm using Taco's Bibtex module and got some problems with it.
>
> \setupbibtex[database=xx,sort=author]
> \setuppublications[alternative=apa-de,refcommand=authoryear,monthconversion=month]
> \placepublications[criterium=all]
>
> ... works fine. The references list contains only publications referenced in
> the document.
>
> Unfortunately, I was forced to use a special bst file, since I needed to
> change the fields of the entrytype "misc". As I didn't find a way to make
> ConTeXt or texexec aware of this new file living in my document's directory,
> I deleted the database parameter, customised the aux file and ran bibtex by
> myself.
>
> The problem is, that, with the new method, only a very small subset of the
> referenced publication makes it into the list. If I add "criterium=all" to
> the setuppublications command, I get the whole database, whether the pub is
> referenced or not.
>
> Any ideas?
After reading t-bib.tex:
[…]
\def\setupbibtex{\dosingleempty\dosetupbibtex}
\def\dosetupbibtex[#1]%
{\let\@@pbdatabase\empty
\let\@@pbsort\empty
\getparameters[\??pb][#1]%
\expanded{\processaction[\@@pbsort]}
[ \v!no=>\def\bibstyle{cont-no},
\v!author=>\def\bibstyle{cont-au},
\v!title=>\def\bibstyle{cont-ti},
\v!short=>\def\bibstyle{cont-ab},
\s!default=>\def\bibstyle{cont-no},
\s!unknown=>\def\bibstyle{cont-no}]%
\ifx\@@pbdatabase\empty\else \writeauxfile \fi}
[…]
I would suggest you put your .bst into, say, cont-my.bst and issue
the command
\def\bibstyle{cont-my}
right after executing \setupbibtex
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Re: [NTG-context] setupinteraction breaks urls in MK Ⅳ
On 9/24/2008 5:31 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Hmm indeed. But there will be a new luatex in just a few more days, > maybe you can wait for that? I'd like to, but I can't. Tomorrow is the day for the thesis to get lasered and processed by the bookbinder. :-) Thanks for your support, I am lucky that I didn't use any of MKⅣ-only features, just page breaking is a little different with MKⅡ, so I will go with that for the last hours of the project. cu, -Matthias ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] setupinteraction breaks urls in MK Ⅳ
On 9/24/2008 1:03 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Matthias Wächter wrote: >> Are there any known workarounds? It makes my bibliography >> undeliverable … > > Works for me. What versions are you running? Thanks for checking. I'm running Win32 here and executed a simple > texexec texmfstart --luatex test I also tried it via the short > context test with the same result. The following is from test.log: > ConTeXt ver: 2008.09.21 22:31 MKIV fmt: 2008.9.23 int: english/english I updated contextminimals using first-setup.bat yesterday. Just did a re-run of »luatools --generate« and »context --make« for making sure everything is up-to-date, but to no effect (just the fmt changed to today's date). Hmmm… - Matthias \setupinteraction[state=start] \starttext \useURL[u][http://www.x.com/] see \from[u]. \stoptext ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] setupinteraction breaks urls in MK Ⅳ
minimum source: \setupinteraction[state=start] \starttext \useURL[u][http://www.x.com/] see \from[u]. \stoptext It works: • in MKⅡ • in MKⅣ only if the first line is commented, i.e. without setupinteraction. It doesn't work in MKⅣ, no change by updating to latest. Are there any known workarounds? It makes my bibliography undeliverable … Thanks, - Matthias test.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] headstyle for synonyms
Folks,
Just wanted to send the following patch, requesting inclusion to
ConTeXt. It adds support for headstyle option in \setupsynonyms by
passing it to \definedescription.
Maybe the \style option of \definedescription could be set by an
additional option for \setupsynonyms as well, but as I am currently
satisfied with the result in my document, I didn’t care yet.
Thanks for considering,
- Matthias
--- core-syn-old.tex2008-08-12 15:35:08.59375 +0200
+++ core-syn.tex2008-08-12 14:55:03.84375 +0200
@@ -80,7 +80,7 @@
\c!inbetween=\synonymparameter\c!inbetween,
\c!after=\synonymparameter\c!after,
\c!indentnext=\synonymparameter\c!indentnext,
- \c!headstyle=,
+ \c!headstyle=\synonymparameter\c!headstyle,
\c!style=]%
\setupwhitespace[\v!none]%
%doutilities{#1}\jobname{#2}\relax\par % no longer \par
@@ -195,7 +195,7 @@
\fi
\dosetupsynonyms
[#1]%
- [\c!synonymstyle=,\c!textstyle=,
+ [\c!synonymstyle=,\c!textstyle=,\c!headstyle=,
\c!state=\v!start,\c!criterium=,
\c!location=\v!left,\c!width=5em,\c!distance=0pt,
\c!sample=,\c!hang=,\c!align=,
@@ -422,6 +422,7 @@
[\v!abbreviation]
[\c!textstyle=\v!capital,
\c!synonymstyle=,
+ \c!headstyle=,
\c!textcolor=,
\c!synonymcolor=,
\c!location=\v!left,
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Re: [NTG-context] \Word broken
On 8/5/2008 6:48 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Matthias Wächter wrote: >> On 8/5/2008 6:37 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: >>> Matthias Wächter wrote: >>> >>>> Do you know how this can be fixed? Is the descripion descriptive enough? >>> will be fixed in the next release (tomorrow we plan to do a formal release) >> Thanks! I am looking forward to the change as I am curious what’s the proper >> way of doing it. > > you mean in lua code? Yeah. While I survived a journey into changing some ConTeXt (MKII) functionality recently and found everything clear (texbook is your friend), I am really puzzled about attribute handling in Lua. But it’s just a couple of lines I have investigated, maybe I’ll be a wizz as soon I roll things up from bottom to top … ;-) - Matthias ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \Word broken
On 8/5/2008 6:37 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Matthias Wächter wrote: > >> Do you know how this can be fixed? Is the descripion descriptive enough? > > will be fixed in the next release (tomorrow we plan to do a formal release) Thanks! I am looking forward to the change as I am curious what’s the proper way of doing it. Keep up the good work, - Matthias ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] \Word broken
Hans,
Do you know how this can be fixed? Is the descripion descriptive enough?
Thanks,
- Matthias
On 7/30/2008 10:23 AM, Matthias Wächter wrote:
> On 7/29/2008 11:22 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Matthias Wächter wrote:
>>
>>> Hans, do you feel something about the issue?
>> only if i get a test file and a description of expected behaviour
>
> Sure, here it is. removing the comment on the \word version works only in
> MKIV, i.e. LuaTeX, but that’s not the issue anyway.
>
> \starttext
>
> assert \WORDS{oNe two} = ONE TWO (works in MKII + MKIV)
>
> %% \word is not defined in MKII, just in MKIV
> % assert \word{oNe two} = one two (works in MKIV)
>
> assert \Words{oNe two} = ONe Two (works in MKII + MKIV)
>
> assert \Word{oNe two} = ONe two (works in MKII, does not work in MKIV)
>
> \stoptext
>
>
> Thanks for taking care, Hans,
> - Matthias
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Re: [NTG-context] \Word broken
On 7/29/2008 11:22 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Matthias Wächter wrote:
>
>> Hans, do you feel something about the issue?
>
> only if i get a test file and a description of expected behaviour
Sure, here it is. removing the comment on the \word version works only in MKIV,
i.e. LuaTeX, but that’s not the issue anyway.
\starttext
assert \WORDS{oNe two} = ONE TWO (works in MKII + MKIV)
%% \word is not defined in MKII, just in MKIV
% assert \word{oNe two} = one two (works in MKIV)
assert \Words{oNe two} = ONe Two (works in MKII + MKIV)
assert \Word{oNe two} = ONe two (works in MKII, does not work in MKIV)
\stoptext
Thanks for taking care, Hans,
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[NTG-context] \Word broken
On 7/25/2008 11:30 AM, Matthias Wächter wrote:
> On 7/24/2008 9:49 PM, Peter Münster wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 24 2008, Matthias Wächter wrote:
>>> What am I doing wrong? \Word, \Words and \WORDS cannot be applied to
>>> synonyms, they are displayed unmodified which is a pity as these words
>>> should be capitalized at the beginning of a sentence. Is there a
>>> solution?
>> Try "texexec --luatex file" (luatex has to be installed).
>
> Wow, it's always impressive to see what difference luatex makes … :-)
>
> Only problem: \Word does the same as \Words (checked on live.contextgarden).
> Any hints?
This is the respective code from core-spa.mkiv, and it is obviously broken as
it defines \Words to be the same as \Word (and it defines \Word wrongly in the
first place).
[…]
\def\WORD{\groupedcommand{\setcharactercasing[\plusone ]}{}}
\def\word{\groupedcommand{\setcharactercasing[\plustwo ]}{}}
\def\Word{\groupedcommand{\setcharactercasing[\plusthree]}{}} % \plusfour
\let\WORDS\WORD
\let\words\word
\let\Words\Word
[…]
I just played a little bit with the lua code but get lost miserably considering
all those nodes, linked lists etc.
It seems to be the hard part to skip the remaining words properly, so its
implementation was postponed. Is this correct?
Hans, do you feel something about the issue?
Thanks,
- Matthias
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Re: [NTG-context] \word of synonyms
On 7/24/2008 9:49 PM, Peter Münster wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24 2008, Matthias Wächter wrote: >> What am I doing wrong? \Word, \Words and \WORDS cannot be applied to >> synonyms, they are displayed unmodified which is a pity as these words >> should be capitalized at the beginning of a sentence. Is there a >> solution? > > Try "texexec --luatex file" (luatex has to be installed). Wow, it's always impressive to see what difference luatex makes … :-) Only problem: \Word does the same as \Words (checked on live.contextgarden). Any hints? Cheers, - Matthias ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \word of synonyms
Hi list!
What am I doing wrong? \Word, \Words and \WORDS cannot be applied to synonyms,
they are displayed unmodified which is a pity as these words should be
capitalized at the beginning of a sentence. Is there a solution?
\starttext
\definesynonyms[term][terms]
\setupsynonyms[term][headstyle=bold,width=4cm,criterium=all]
\term[FTce]{fault tolerance}{The ability of a system to mitigate a
fault avoiding desastrous behavior}
\placelistofterms
Original: \FTce\
First letter: \Word{\FTce}
All first letters: \Words{\FTce}
All letters: \WORDS{\FTce}
First letter: \Word{fault tolerance}
All first letters: \Words{fault tolerance}
All letters: \WORDS{fault tolerance}
\stoptext
Thanks,
- Matthias
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Re: [NTG-context] Quickie about Line Numbering
Hans, Hans Hagen schrieb: > Matthias Wächter wrote: >> I really wonder why this is not implemented. It's so easy to do in >> LaTeX, and we _really_ need it for our review process. I will never >> convince my boss to change to ConTeXt without document-wide line numbers >> :/ > afaik in latex they tweak the output routine by handling line by line > which is ok for proofing article like stuff where messing up the spacing > is no problem > > in context, which has much more integrated in the otr that will not > work out ok and i don't like implementing things half broken (apart > from not needing it) I see. > in mkiv i will deal with line numbering in a different way (i have some > experimental code) and there it will be available in a couple of months > (i just need time and reason) Great news! Is there a principle change of operation in mkiv that makes such new approach to line numbering possible, or is it just new 'motivation' to implement it in lua? - Matthias ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Quickie about Line Numbering
Thomas A. Schmitz schrieb: >> Just wondering how I can manage to number all the lines of my document. >> Thought that this would work but it actually doesn't. > I have some dim recollection that I asked a similar question some time > ago, and the answer was: you can't (but I can't find a reference in the > archive, so I may be wrong). You'll have to explicitly tell ConTeXt to > start line numbering after headings: Thanks for your (sad) answer. I really wonder why this is not implemented. It's so easy to do in LaTeX, and we _really_ need it for our review process. I will never convince my boss to change to ConTeXt without document-wide line numbers ... :/ But maybe in Lua it's just a three-liner, so I won't give up hope. Not now. :) - Matthias ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Quickie about Line Numbering
Hi!
Just wondering how I can manage to number all the lines of my document.
Thought that this would work but it actually doesn't.
\starttext
\startlinenumbering
\chapter{First}
A paragraph
Another paragraph.
\chapter{Second}
Wait and see---nothing.
\stoplinenumbering
\stoptext
Is there a better/smarter way for doing this than typing a lot of
\(start|stop)linenumbering around paragraphs of text? We need line
numbers as part of our document review process for clearly referencing
error spots.
- Matthias
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Re: [NTG-context] bib and bibltx problems
Hi Taco, any progress?
- Matthias
On 24.10.2006 15:13, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Hi Matthias,
>
> I goofed somewhere, that's for sure. Are you in a real hurry, or can
> I take a day or two staring at it?
>
> Taco
>
> Matthias Wächter wrote:
>> Hi Taco,
>>
>> I ran into the following problems:
>>
>> 1. see attached files. Three bib entries with different authors, but the
>> resulting references are the same for two of them (!). Appearantly,
>> without sorting the bib entries, the extra label numbering does not work
>> correctly. Changing \setupbibtex to "sort=short" fixes the issue
>> (appending "a" and "b") as well does changing "ITERATE {presort.none}"
>> to "ITERATE {presort.clabel}" in cont-no.bst. But is this a
>> once-and-for-all fix?
>>
>> 2. see attached files. In \setuppublications, numbering is given as
>> "short", but the resulting list of references is only as good as "yes" -
>> I only get the numbers, not the short references in the list. Hmmm,
>> what's the cause for this? Any ideas? Or is it My Fault(TM)?
>>
>> 3. In general: If I'd use bib handwriting \{start,stop}publication
>> without bibltx, would I have to care about the uniqueness of the "short"
>> document names (the "s=" option to \startpublication)? Really?
>> Considering hundreds of possible bibliography entries, this would double
>> the effort: Not only the key (the "k=" option) but also the short name
>> must be unique for correct references.
>>
>> 4. Sometimes, the build process ("texexec --pdf test") breaks after
>> changing some text in the bibliography. Appearantly, sometimes the .bbl
>> file is not updated. removing the .bbl file fixes the build. No recipy
>> available, sorry.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> - Matthias
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> \usemodule[bib]
>> \usemodule[bibltx]
>> \setupbibtex[database=mybibs,sort=no]
>> \setuppublications[refcommand=short,numbering=short]
>> \starttext For all times, \cite[TRUE] is right and \cite[FALSE] is wrong.
>> \completepublications
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> @techreport{TRUE,
>> Title= "True Values",
>> Author = "True Author",
>> Year = "2005",
>> }
>>
>> @techreport{GNUS,
>> Title= "Gnus in the Wild",
>> Author = "Another Doctor",
>> Year = "2005",
>> }
>>
>> @techreport{FALSE,
>> Title= "False values",
>> Author = "False Author",
>> Year = "2005",
>> }
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [NTG-context] bib and bibltx problems
On 24.10.2006 15:13, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > I goofed somewhere, that's for sure. Are you in a real hurry, or can > I take a day or two staring at it? No hurry, please. :) Thanks for taking care. - Matthias ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] bib and bibltx problems
Hi Taco,
I ran into the following problems:
1. see attached files. Three bib entries with different authors, but the resulting references are the same for two of them (!).
Appearantly, without sorting the bib entries, the extra label numbering does not work correctly. Changing \setupbibtex to
"sort=short" fixes the issue (appending "a" and "b") as well does changing "ITERATE
{presort.none}" to "ITERATE {presort.clabel}" in cont-no.bst. But is this a once-and-for-all fix?
2. see attached files. In \setuppublications, numbering is given as "short", but the
resulting list of references is only as good as "yes" - I only get the numbers, not the
short references in the list. Hmmm, what's the cause for this? Any ideas? Or is it My Fault(TM)?
3. In general: If I'd use bib handwriting \{start,stop}publication without bibltx, would I have to care about
the uniqueness of the "short" document names (the "s=" option to \startpublication)?
Really? Considering hundreds of possible bibliography entries, this would double the effort: Not only the key
(the "k=" option) but also the short name must be unique for correct references.
4. Sometimes, the build process ("texexec --pdf test") breaks after changing
some text in the bibliography. Appearantly, sometimes the .bbl file is not updated.
removing the .bbl file fixes the build. No recipy available, sorry.
Thanks,
- Matthias
\usemodule[bib]
\usemodule[bibltx]
\setupbibtex[database=mybibs,sort=no]
\setuppublications[refcommand=short,numbering=short]
\starttext For all times, \cite[TRUE] is right and \cite[FALSE] is wrong.
\completepublications
\stoptext
@techreport{TRUE,
Title= "True Values",
Author = "True Author",
Year = "2005",
}
@techreport{GNUS,
Title= "Gnus in the Wild",
Author = "Another Doctor",
Year = "2005",
}
@techreport{FALSE,
Title= "False values",
Author = "False Author",
Year = "2005",
}
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Re: [NTG-context] tempdir support in texexec.rb
On 18.07.2006 10:29, Hans Hagen wrote: >>> if it's because of the temp files. you can run with --purge and get them >>> removed >> Well, then Context could not benefit from "incremental" builds with just one >> run instead of 4 to 5 runs. But I get the idea. > eh ... the tuo file is kept Appearantly, only mpgraph.mp is removed by --purge, and --purgeall only gives some CtxTools help messages. Hmm ... >> Maybe for this task, --purge is reasonable enough. I'll give it a try. >> > that's indeed the best way to go; btw, here i only version tex files Depending on the process you have to maintain (you know, I mentioned Context version numbers before ...), you want to version everything except stuff that is there and unversioned by intent. At least you want to get warned of new files you may have forgotten to put under revision control, and as said, you may want to mark the document tainted because of unclean checkouts. The easiest approach would be to have a separate directory for non-output related stuff like .tmp, .log, .tui, .tuo, .mp, then any other unversioned file would be a sign of unallowed modification. OK, I will simply mark *.tmp, *.log, *.tui and *.tuo as "ignore". What's the difference between mpgraph.mp and -mpgraph.mp ? The latter is not removed when using --purge. Is this by intent? Then I have to put *-mpgraph.mp to the ignore list, too. - Matthias ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] tempdir support in texexec.rb
On 17.07.2006 21:35, Hans Hagen wrote: > Matthias Wächter wrote: >> Naively, I thought that the --tempdir option would allow the 'temporary' >> files created/updated at a run of texexec be written to whatever is given as >> --tempdir=/dir/, but it doesn't work, the files remain in the current >> directory. Additionally, --output seems to disallow the output be put into >> another directory (it's always put into `pwd`). >> Is there a (better?) way to specify where these files should go? > currently not, an option like that is doable but would involve both an > patch to context itself (runtime locating files) and texexec > (inbetween/postprocessing) [pretty fuzzy btw] I see. > if it's because of the temp files. you can run with --purge and get them > removed Well, then Context could not benefit from "incremental" builds with just one run instead of 4 to 5 runs. But I get the idea. >> $ texexec --pdf --tempdir=tmp --output=out/project.pdf project > --output concerns the backend while --result > > texexec test --result=what/oeps > > should work ok given that what exists (i'll add a check for existence) >> Is /me the only one who desires such a split? > I think so Then, is there a list of files that are automatically created by Context (not mentioning files that are manually created as part of TeX output functions and such)? The prime aspect of my question is to have a reasonable list of file names that shouldn't be version controlled with the source code. Our scripts automatically check for unknown files and mark our documents tainted if the local version is not consistent with the repository (say, completely committed and updated). If I could instruct context to put all temporary files into a separate directory, I could simply put "tmp/*" to the ignore list, and that's it. Maybe for this task, --purge is reasonable enough. I'll give it a try. Thanks, Hans! - Matthias ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] tempdir support in texexec.rb
Hi, Naively, I thought that the --tempdir option would allow the 'temporary' files created/updated at a run of texexec be written to whatever is given as --tempdir=/dir/, but it doesn't work, the files remain in the current directory. Additionally, --output seems to disallow the output be put into another directory (it's always put into `pwd`). Is there a (better?) way to specify where these files should go? What I'd expect is a directory layout like the following: files/ onesource.tex env.tex othersource.tex project.tex out/ project.pdf tmp/ project.tmp project.log project.tui project.tuo mpgraph.mp project-mpgraph.mp as a result of $ cd files/ $ texexec --pdf --tempdir=tmp --output=out/project.pdf project Is /me the only one who desires such a split? - Matthias ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Version Numbers in Download File Names
Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Matthias Wächter wrote: >> https://foundry.supelec.fr/frs/?group_id=14 gives me quite some versions of >> Context, but the download paths for each precise version is not related to >> the >> release date or the SVN revision, > Correct. SVN release ids have numbers, not dates, and it was a bitch > getting all this stuff into subversion as it was, so I did not want > to fiddle too much with extra tag ids. The SVN log entry is always the > release date number. So you take the official, newly released .zip file, unpack it to the checked out Subversion copy, and commit the changes using your name and the release date as commit text (no change tracking using information from the Release Notes or the prime version control system),? It's not that Context development is actually performed on supelec.fr, is it? Looks like a lot of effort (riding the horse backwards). So: Why is Context development not performed on a public SVN repository? The whole release procedure would be a lot simpler then ... Am I too progressive asking this? ;) > For the 'Files' section, it could actually be retrofitted, by > rearranging the uploaded files (and uploading a few hundred > extra zip files that are now skipped). I will happily give > anybody who wants to do such a project enough gforge permissions > to do so ;-) I don't understand precisely what actions you mean. Maybe together we can work out a better 'Files' section. >> Second: I tried to checkout the repository anonymously as mentioned >> on https://foundry.supelec.fr/scm/?group_id=14 without success > That is odd, because it should have worked. I will investigate Thank you very much! Just a configuration hint (actually I don't know how much access you have to the various SVN config files on supelec.fr): 1) Put a "* = r" for the part (or whole) of the repository in the file referred to by the AuthZSVNAccessFile directive in the apache config. Usually, the file looks like the following enabling write access for users "taco" and "hans" while only read access for anybody including anonymous: [groups] committers = taco, hans [/] * = r @committers = rw 2) Assure that "Require valid-user" is accompanied by "Satisfy Any" inside the ... section of the apache config file. An example config section is DAV svn SVNPath /path/to/contextrev # our access control policy AuthzSVNAccessFile /path/to/access/file # try anonymous access first, resort to real # authentication if necessary. Satisfy Any Require valid-user # how to authenticate a user AuthType Basic AuthName "Subversion repository for Context" AuthUserFile /path/to/users/file HTH, - Matthias ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Version Numbers in Download File Names
Taco Hoekwater schrieb: > Matthias Wächter wrote: >> Is there a strong motivation against having versioned package file names, >> possibly with some months/years of history? > > Or is this archive available but I am unable to find it? ;) > There is an archive of old releases and file versions on-line, > but at a different location. Check this page as a starting point: >http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Revisions Taco, thanks for pointing me there and indirectly to the releases and SVN repository at supelec.fr. Stupid /me didn't search the garden for it. Two comments nevertheless. https://foundry.supelec.fr/frs/?group_id=14 gives me quite some versions of Context, but the download paths for each precise version is not related to the release date or the SVN revision, for example, the 20060609 release can be downloaded as https://foundry.supelec.fr/frs/download.php/305/cont-tmf.zip. Can't it be something like https://foundry.supelec.fr/frs/download.php/cont-tmf-20060609.zip, or in case of true SVN snapshots maybe https://foundry.supelec.fr/frs/download.php/cont-tmf-164.zip having '164' as the associated SVN repository revision number? That would be easy to maintain in subsequent application packages for Context. Certainly, supelec.fr and gforge.org have the last word on this issue. Anyway, thanks for the link, it is a big step towards a solution. Second: I tried to checkout the repository anonymously as mentioned on https://foundry.supelec.fr/scm/?group_id=14 without success (it asks me for username/password). Either anonymous read-only access should be enabled as documented, or the documentation on this page should change (but why should the repository be publicly browseable as well as versioned snapshots be publicly available without proper public Subversion access?). In case cont-tmf.zip is a simple consistent snapshot of the (then) publicly available SVN repository, the problem of versioning would vanish in a second, I'd just have to refer to the associated SVN revision of the tree. Thanks, - Matthias ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Version Numbers in Download File Names
Hi! Pardon me for requesting more support from pragma-ade prior to ever using the mailing list for general support questions. Maybe I should post this one directly to Hans but others might be interested in this issue as well. Despite my little but growing knowledge of Context I am currently evaluating its suitability for document building in our company (our workflow is currently Latex-based). A prime aspect of our company's work is to follow well-defined processes, and as part of that, we have to be able to refer to specific versions of applications that are used in the development of our projects. When used, this would apply to Context as well. Obviously, downloading from pragma-ade gives version numbers only on the entry pages like http://www.pragma-ade.nl/download-1.htm next to the links to the files, but the package files themselves like http://www.pragma-ade.nl/context/current/cont-tmf.zip don't have versioned names (not mentioning that Context and its modules actually _do_ report version numbers as dates upon use). Is there a strong motivation against having versioned package file names, possibly with some months/years of history? Has this support feature ever been considered by pragma-ade or asked for by their (non-)paying customers? Or is this archive available but I am unable to find it? ;) Just an example: Instead of http://www.pragma-ade.nl/context/current/cont-tmf.zip use a browseable directory like http://www.pragma-ade.nl/context/archive/ containint files like http://www.pragma-ade.nl/context/archive/cont-tmf-20060518.zip http://www.pragma-ade.nl/context/archive/cont-tmf-20060601.zip http://www.pragma-ade.nl/context/archive/cont-tmf-20060629.zip and possibly set /context/current/cont-tmf.zip as an internal file system link to the latest file in /context/archive/ for those interested only in the latest version. The proposed method could be applied to all other download files as well. That way and as long as the archive files are available, a precise version of Context could be fetched from pragma-ade's server without maintaining a local versioned archive of cont.tmf.zip etc. Referral to a specific version of Context would be a lot easier, and documenting the tools used for a project would be a lot simpler. A common understanding of a Context version, reflected in its package file name, would reduce the effort of those responsible for local version control and install package maintenance. Thanks, - Matthias ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] !?!? -what's up?
Hans Hagen schrieb: > andrea valle wrote: >> I reinstalled all (tex, texshop) and solved the problem. Now I >> installed ConTeXt Beta. >> Still I have this warning I do not understand: >> >> remark : 'texutil' is now part of 'texexec' >> warning : use 'texmfstart texutil' instead >> >> total run time : 7 seconds >> >> warning : use 'texmfstart texexec' instead >> >> >> What does it mean? >> > that you run texexec.pl (which calls texutil.pl) instead of texexec.rb > (which has texutil built in) The same text is returned when using live.contextgarden.net. - Matthias ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
