Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-25 Thread Steffen Wolfrum
Am 21.11.2008 um 23:53 schrieb Hans Hagen: Mojca Miklavec wrote: hack hack hack hack I tried solutions with special patterns sveral times but the problem is in mixed languages, i.e. english text mixed with url-language; there are some limitations (in pdftex for instance the

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-25 Thread Hans Hagen
Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Conclusion please: Is \ForMojcaWhoLikesHacks an improvement of \hyphenatedurls in terms of being closer to this Chicago style sort of standard? no, a hack just for mojca, not finished, and since inmath mode hardly configurable with respect to fonts etc [And thus

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-24 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/21/2008 4:53 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote: hack hack hack hack I tried solutions with special patterns sveral times but the problem is in mixed languages, i.e. english text mixed with url-language; there are some limitations (in pdftex for instance the same

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-24 Thread Hans Hagen
Lars Huttar wrote: Also, I don't see a way to prevent breaking between two slashes... unless you treat them as part of a separate hbox: \hbox{http://}\ForMojcaWhoLikesHacks{www.sil.org/silesr/} which is not a big problem. it's no problem to catch the // but in general this method is not

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-24 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/24/2008 8:45 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: Lars Huttar wrote: Also, I don't see a way to prevent breaking between two slashes... unless you treat them as part of a separate hbox: \hbox{http://}\ForMojcaWhoLikesHacks{www.sil.org/silesr/} which is not a big problem. it's no problem to

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Lars Huttar wrote: On 11/19/2008 2:35 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: 2) Even though I have \sethyphenatedurlafter / instead of \sethyphenatedurlbefore /, there are four cases where a URL is broken before a slash, e.g.: http://www.sil.org/.../009 /YAMBASSA.html. and no cases where a URL is broken

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-21 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/21/2008 2:22 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: Lars Huttar wrote: On 11/19/2008 2:35 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: 2) Even though I have \sethyphenatedurlafter / instead of \sethyphenatedurlbefore /, there are four cases where a URL is broken before a slash, e.g.: http://www.sil.org/.../009

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-21 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/21/2008 2:22 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: i leave it to others to react on the rest of your mail (some users have been tuning the mechanism too) Hans On 11/21/2008 9:45 AM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: Am 21.11.2008 um 16:35 schrieb Lars Huttar: Hello, Did either of you, Aditya or Steffen,

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-21 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/21/2008 12:01 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: So as far as we know, nobody has successfully used \sethyphenatedurlbefore/after/etc. to tune the url-breaking mechanism. Has anybody else on the list done this? If not, maybe the mkii implementation has never worked for that purpose... it's

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-21 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: On 11/21/2008 12:01 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: So as far as we know, nobody has successfully used \sethyphenatedurlbefore/after/etc. to tune the url-breaking mechanism. Has anybody else on the list done this? OK... I have a working

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: hack hack hack hack I tried solutions with special patterns sveral times but the problem is in mixed languages, i.e. english text mixed with url-language; there are some limitations (in pdftex for instance the same codes are used fo rthe whole par (i.e. mixed

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-21 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:53 PM, Hans Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mojca Miklavec wrote: hack hack hack hack I tried solutions with special patterns sveral times but the problem is in mixed languages, i.e. english text mixed with url-language; there are some limitations (in pdftex

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-20 Thread Hans Hagen
Lars Huttar wrote: On 11/19/2008 2:35 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: However, I have a few unsolved problems here. 1) I don't see a way, with the '\sethyphenatedurlbefore' or 'after' mechanism, to tell it not to break a URL between two slashes, as in http://;. At first I thought that since our text

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-20 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/20/2008 2:29 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: Lars Huttar wrote: On 11/19/2008 2:35 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: However, I have a few unsolved problems here. 1) I don't see a way, with the '\sethyphenatedurlbefore' or 'after' mechanism, to tell it not to break a URL between two slashes, as in

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-20 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/19/2008 2:35 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: 2) Even though I have \sethyphenatedurlafter / instead of \sethyphenatedurlbefore /, there are four cases where a URL is broken before a slash, e.g.: http://www.sil.org/.../009 /YAMBASSA.html. and no cases where a URL is broken after a slash (except

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-19 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/18/2008 3:44 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: From what I can tell, the .tex file loads one of the other three: \loadmarkfile{lang-url} \loadmarkfile loads either lang-url.mkii or lang-url.mkiv, depending on the ConTeXt version you're running (MkII / MkIV). In Mark IV, the Lua

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-19 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/19/2008 2:35 PM, Lars Huttar wrote: However, I have a few unsolved problems here. 1) I don't see a way, with the '\sethyphenatedurlbefore' or 'after' mechanism, to tell it not to break a URL between two slashes, as in http://;. At first I thought that since our text only had a few

[NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-18 Thread Lars Huttar
Hello, I would like to modify the rules for wrapping URLs (aka hyphenating URLs, but generally without inserting hyphens) to conform more closely to the Chicago Manual of Style, 15th ed. I've read on this list that the code for doing this is defined in the \hypthenatedurl There are several files

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-18 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
From what I can tell, the .tex file loads one of the other three: \loadmarkfile{lang-url} \loadmarkfile loads either lang-url.mkii or lang-url.mkiv, depending on the ConTeXt version you're running (MkII / MkIV). In Mark IV, the Lua code is then put in lang-url.lua, which is input by

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-18 Thread Lars Huttar
On 11/18/2008 3:44 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: From what I can tell, the .tex file loads one of the other three: \loadmarkfile{lang-url} \loadmarkfile loads either lang-url.mkii or lang-url.mkiv, depending on the ConTeXt version you're running (MkII / MkIV). In Mark IV, the Lua

Re: [NTG-context] modifying URL wrapping rules

2008-11-18 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
OK... but I'm not sure what I would do differently if I'm not worrying about the \loadmarkfile mechanism... Still modify the lang-url.mkii file? Sure. I simply meant that you only needed to produce a single file, your modified lang-url.mkii, whereas if you wanted to develop for both MkII and