Re: [NTG-context] switching to a different math font (with alternatives) in the middle of document
On 10-5-2012 10:25, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 10-5-2012 02:25, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Hello,
I'm just wonderding if there is a way to switch to an OpenType Math
font (referred to by name or filename, without any predefined
typescript) with some stylistic alternative in the middle of the
document, like in the LaTeX example:
Sure, when Khaled added alternates to xits we also added support for it to
mkiv.
\setupbodyfont[xits]
But this requires a whole typescript. So there is no way to say
Why? It's a dynamic feature. It's just that we use nicer names than ss01
and such.
something equivalent to
\font\a=Asana-Math.otf \a
without the need to create a lfg file& so on?
I'm not sure what you mean here. You can use \font directly but it has
no benefits as it's not part of a proper math setup then.
Anyway, your example with Asana broke a compilation, so at least I was
able to realize that I was missing the otf font, whereas yesterday it
was simply ignoring the fact that the font was missing and has typeset
everything in TeX Gyre I think.
I never used Asana.
\starttext
\unexpanded\def\mathaltcal{\mathalternate{cal}\cal}
And how do I know what is an equivalent of StylisticSet=4 in Lucida?
Well, that's just ss04 but referring to a stylistic set at the user
level is a bad idea as that's not standardized
Would this be something like
italic = { feature = 'ss01', value = 1, comment = "Mathematical
Alternative Italic" },
Indeed.
where \mathalternate{italic} works as +ss01, but the ss04 not because
it has not been defined in lucida-opentype-math.lfg?
Indeed, although of course I could make it honor the fuzzy ss01 etc
variants too but no one can guarantee that these ss's always stay the
same. In principle we can even define commands automatically if needed
but then switching to a different font setup in a document can result in
unknown commands. After all, there can be 10 different alternate scripts
in one font and zero in another.
$ABC$
$\cal ABC$
$\mathalternate{cal}\cal ABC$
$\mathaltcal ABC$
\stoptext
Once the dust around math fonts has settled we might end up with some
standardization in mkiv with respect to the tags used in the lfg files.
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] switching to a different math font (with alternatives) in the middle of document
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 10-5-2012 02:25, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm just wonderding if there is a way to switch to an OpenType Math
>> font (referred to by name or filename, without any predefined
>> typescript) with some stylistic alternative in the middle of the
>> document, like in the LaTeX example:
>
>
> Sure, when Khaled added alternates to xits we also added support for it to
> mkiv.
>
> \setupbodyfont[xits]
But this requires a whole typescript. So there is no way to say
something equivalent to
\font\a=Asana-Math.otf \a
without the need to create a lfg file & so on?
Anyway, your example with Asana broke a compilation, so at least I was
able to realize that I was missing the otf font, whereas yesterday it
was simply ignoring the fact that the font was missing and has typeset
everything in TeX Gyre I think.
> \starttext
>
> \unexpanded\def\mathaltcal{\mathalternate{cal}\cal}
And how do I know what is an equivalent of StylisticSet=4 in Lucida?
Would this be something like
italic = { feature = 'ss01', value = 1, comment = "Mathematical
Alternative Italic" },
where \mathalternate{italic} works as +ss01, but the ss04 not because
it has not been defined in lucida-opentype-math.lfg?
> $ABC$
> $\cal ABC$
> $\mathalternate{cal}\cal ABC$
> $\mathaltcal ABC$
>
> \stoptext
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] switching to a different math font (with alternatives) in the middle of document
On Thu, 10 May 2012 10:05:49 +0200 Hans Hagen wrote: > On 10-5-2012 02:29, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > > PS: I forgot to send "a minimal example". Here it is :) > > > > http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2011/talks/day3_05_ulrik_opentype/Samples/math-test-alphabet.tex > > > > http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2011/talks/day3_05_ulrik_opentype/Samples/math-test-alphabet.pdf > > my editor cannot open minimal examples with more than 10 lines > > Hans You must not be using the same editor (and TeX) as Mojca :) Alan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] switching to a different math font (with alternatives) in the middle of document
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: > > my editor cannot open latex >minimal examples with more than 10 lines -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] switching to a different math font (with alternatives) in the middle of document
On 10-5-2012 02:29, Mojca Miklavec wrote: PS: I forgot to send "a minimal example". Here it is :) http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2011/talks/day3_05_ulrik_opentype/Samples/math-test-alphabet.tex http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2011/talks/day3_05_ulrik_opentype/Samples/math-test-alphabet.pdf my editor cannot open minimal examples with more than 10 lines Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] switching to a different math font (with alternatives) in the middle of document
On 10-5-2012 02:25, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Hello,
I'm just wonderding if there is a way to switch to an OpenType Math
font (referred to by name or filename, without any predefined
typescript) with some stylistic alternative in the middle of the
document, like in the LaTeX example:
Sure, when Khaled added alternates to xits we also added support for it
to mkiv.
\setupbodyfont[xits]
\starttext
\unexpanded\def\mathaltcal{\mathalternate{cal}\cal}
$ABC$
$\cal ABC$
$\mathalternate{cal}\cal ABC$
$\mathaltcal ABC$
\stoptext
As this can differ per font, we use symbolic names, and these are
defined in the lfg files. This functionality is there already for some
time but probably not wikified (there are examples in the test suite).
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] switching to a different math font (with alternatives) in the middle of document
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm just wonderding if there is a way to switch to an OpenType Math
> font (referred to by name or filename, without any predefined
> typescript) with some stylistic alternative in the middle of the
> document, like in the LaTeX example:
>
> running text ... \setmathfont[Scale=0.86,StylisticSet=4]{Lucida Bright
> Math OT} $\mathcal{ABC XYZ}$~(StylisticSet=4) ...
> running text ... \setmathfont{Asana Math} $\mathfrak{ABC XYZ\,abc xyz}$
>
> or do I always need to provide a predefined typescript? How does one
> switch between stylistic alternatives for math?
>
> I have a problem with {\switchtobodyfont[asana] $\mathscript ABC
> XYZ\,abc xyz$} and I also need to figure out how to get "math bold
> italic sans serif greek alphabet". Any hints welcome.
PS: I forgot to send "a minimal example". Here it is :)
http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2011/talks/day3_05_ulrik_opentype/Samples/math-test-alphabet.tex
http://meeting.contextgarden.net/2011/talks/day3_05_ulrik_opentype/Samples/math-test-alphabet.pdf
Mojca
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[NTG-context] switching to a different math font (with alternatives) in the middle of document
Hello,
I'm just wonderding if there is a way to switch to an OpenType Math
font (referred to by name or filename, without any predefined
typescript) with some stylistic alternative in the middle of the
document, like in the LaTeX example:
running text ... \setmathfont[Scale=0.86,StylisticSet=4]{Lucida Bright
Math OT} $\mathcal{ABC XYZ}$~(StylisticSet=4) ...
running text ... \setmathfont{Asana Math} $\mathfrak{ABC XYZ\,abc xyz}$
or do I always need to provide a predefined typescript? How does one
switch between stylistic alternatives for math?
I have a problem with {\switchtobodyfont[asana] $\mathscript ABC
XYZ\,abc xyz$} and I also need to figure out how to get "math bold
italic sans serif greek alphabet". Any hints welcome.
Thank you,
Mojca
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