Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-13 Thread Peter Rolf
Am 12.12.2009 16:41, schrieb Oliver Heins: Hi Peter, Peter Rolf writes: I get the same 'kind of knockedout' text as in the other example... but the black text is set as /DeviceGray and not /DeviceCMYK (k-component). You can make this visible by using 'Vorschau: Separiert' with the option

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-12 Thread Oliver Heins
Hi Hans, Hans Hagen writes: > Oliver Heins wrote: >> So is it advisable to change all black to cmyk black or can I safely >> rely on the DeviceGray black? > > if needed i can make that an option at some point (as we already have > more such auto conversion options) That would be great. :) Than

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-12 Thread Hans Hagen
Oliver Heins wrote: Hi Peter, Peter Rolf writes: I get the same 'kind of knockedout' text as in the other example... but the black text is set as /DeviceGray and not /DeviceCMYK (k-component). You can make this visible by using 'Vorschau: Separiert' with the option 'Einblenden: Nicht-DeviceCM

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-12 Thread Martin Schröder
2009/12/12 Oliver Heins : > So is it advisable to change all black to cmyk black or can I safely > rely on the DeviceGray black? Use CMYK. IIRC AR preflight warns about overprinting etc. not working with Gray. Best Martin

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-12 Thread Oliver Heins
Hi Peter, Peter Rolf writes: > I get the same 'kind of knockedout' text as in the other example... > but the black text is set as /DeviceGray and not /DeviceCMYK > (k-component). You can make this visible by using > 'Vorschau: Separiert' with the option 'Einblenden: Nicht-DeviceCMYK'. > > I thin

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Peter Rolf
Oliver Heins schrieb: Peter Rolf writes: Oliver Heins schrieb: Yes, I noticed that, too. But to me it looks like it is first knocked out in the pdf, and then the overprint flag is set. Good point. In that case the text must be set twice, as knockout and overprint can't co

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Oliver Heins wrote: > But shouldn't the same effect be seen with other colors than black then, > too?  And it only happens with black, and I think it happens even when > you do it within a cmyk-only document: > > Can you test the following?  My Acrobat is on a mach

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Oliver Heins
Peter Rolf writes: > Oliver Heins schrieb: >> Yes, I noticed that, too. But to me it looks like it is first knocked >> out in the pdf, and then the overprint flag is set. >> >> > Good point. In that case the text must be set twice, as knockout and > overprint can't coexist. I have looked into

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Peter Rolf
Oliver Heins schrieb: Hi Peter, Peter Rolf writes: Oliver Heins schrieb: Hello, with color black overprinting is not working. You can easily spot this when you use the »Ausgabevorschau« (sorry, my acrobat is in german locale, must be something with »preview« in english; located in

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Hans Hagen
luigi scarso wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Oliver Heins wrote: Hi Luigi, luigi scarso writes: hm I believed was \color[red]{..} and \startcolor[red] ... \stopcolor You're right, I mixed things up here. But nontheless, my example was (unintendedly) syntactically correct, b

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Oliver Heins
luigi scarso writes: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Oliver Heins wrote: >> Hi Luigi, >> >> luigi scarso writes: >> >>> hm I believed  was >>> >>> \color[red]{..} >>> >>> and >>> \startcolor[red] >>> ... >>> \stopcolor >> >> You're right, I mixed things up here.  But nontheless, my examp

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Oliver Heins wrote: > Hi Luigi, > > luigi scarso writes: > >> hm I believed  was >> >> \color[red]{..} >> >> and >> \startcolor[red] >> ... >> \stopcolor > > You're right, I mixed things up here.  But nontheless, my example was > (unintendedly) syntactically c

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Oliver Heins
Hi Luigi, luigi scarso writes: > hm I believed was > > \color[red]{..} > > and > \startcolor[red] > ... > \stopcolor You're right, I mixed things up here. But nontheless, my example was (unintendedly) syntactically correct, because either \color[black]{\bf ...} and \color[black]\startover

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Oliver Heins
Hi Peter, Peter Rolf writes: > Oliver Heins schrieb: >> Hello, >> >> with color black overprinting is not working. You can easily spot this >> when you use the »Ausgabevorschau« (sorry, my acrobat is in german >> locale, must be something with »preview« in english; located in the >> »tools« men

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Peter Rolf
Taco Hoekwater schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: you have to manually copy the hacker.jpg to your working directory (under linux e.g. with cp $(kpsewhich hacker.jpg) /path/to/your/working/directory) and change the path to make the minimal example work under mark iv. I noticed this too

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Oliver Heins wrote: > Hello, > > with color black overprinting is not working.  You can easily spot this > when you use the »Ausgabevorschau« (sorry, my acrobat is in german > locale, must be something with »preview« in english; located in the > »tools« menu) in ac

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Peter Rolf wrote: you have to manually copy the >> hacker.jpg to your working directory (under linux e.g. with cp >> $(kpsewhich hacker.jpg) /path/to/your/working/directory) and change the >> path to make the minimal example work under mark iv. >> > I noticed this too (no picture with mkiv)

Re: [NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Peter Rolf
Oliver Heins schrieb: Hello, with color black overprinting is not working. You can easily spot this when you use the »Ausgabevorschau« (sorry, my acrobat is in german locale, must be something with »preview« in english; located in the »tools« menu) in acrobat and remove magenta and black from t

[NTG-context] Bug with overprinting in Mark II/IV?

2009-12-11 Thread Oliver Heins
Hello, with color black overprinting is not working. You can easily spot this when you use the »Ausgabevorschau« (sorry, my acrobat is in german locale, must be something with »preview« in english; located in the »tools« menu) in acrobat and remove magenta and black from the preview. Whilst under