Got stuck on a consultancy yesterday that was allegedly Citrix-based, yet
when I arrived on site it turned out it was a pure 2008 TS deployment, and
I had to start blagging very quickly :-)
Quick question (as I write my report). Can you install the TS Session
Broker and TS Web Access roles on the
I'm pretty sure that Cisco now supports their offering in a VMWare environment.
From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT - Phone System In A Virtual Machine
We are looking at replacing our phone system. This
Windows Server 2008 Terminal Services Resource Kit (free) and
Understanding Microsoft Virtualization Solutions, Second Edition (also free)
...are your best resources for these types of questions (IMO).
You can install all RDP role services on a single server.
Terminal Server Session Broker
Quick question (as I write my report). Can you install the TS Session Broker
and TS Web Access roles on the same server
Yes.
Also are there any preferred ways to provided redundancy for these roles
besides a failover cluster
No clue
Dave
From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent:
Free? How?
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/book.aspx?ID=12716locale=en-us
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 6:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: TS 2008 question
Windows Server 2008 Terminal Services Resource Kit (free) and
As I understand it, they only support it on their own hardware platform.
From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 9:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Phone System In A Virtual Machine
I'm pretty sure that Cisco now supports their
Thanks guys
I was actually looking at providing some redundancy for the Session Broker
role itself (i.e. if the Session Broker server explodes, I'd want some
resilience available). Maybe I didn't phrase that well :-)
On 8 November 2011 14:11, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
We use asterisk at many clients...
We just build the systems ourselves, but there are several bundles and
providers who build the system for you.
Bill
http://www.asterisk.org/
James Kerr wrote:
We are looking at replacing our phone system. This has got me thinking
about VIOP systems and
I've seen a live Mitel demo where they can vmotion the PBX and the call doesn't
even flinch. But only supported on vmware. They claim they are the only
vendor capable of that, although I haven't seen proof otherwise.
From: Glen Johnson
Uh... it may have been for only a limited time.
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/rds/archive/2009/05/22/free-stuff-download-the-windows-server-2008-terminal-services-resource-kit.aspx
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
From: David Lum
We don't run any phone systems through a VM, however we do have GFI Faxmaker
using FoIP running on one.
FWIW...
Jay Dale
Senior Systems Administrator
P:281-574-2414
From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 7:57 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT -
Hello All,
I’ve deployed dozens of QNAPs and have 5 (1 -8 drive units)
myself, and while they are high performance machines, support is lacking (but
improving). BUT, you rarely if ever need support. Per Drobos, they are pretty
looking. There’s a reason they won’t release
New releases of ShoreTel (Director) are supported in VMs. I did a P2V of
ours last July.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Glen Johnson gjohn...@vhcc.edu wrote:
I’m pretty sure that Cisco now supports their offering in a VMWare
environment.
** **
** **
*From:* James Kerr
As does Shoretel.
From: Glen Johnson [mailto:gjohn...@vhcc.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 6:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Phone System In A Virtual Machine
I'm pretty sure that Cisco now supports their offering in a VMWare
environment.
From: James
While you CAN do it, I don't think you (or your users) will be happy with the
results. All the Microsoft people (I was just at WinConnections) very
carefully try to warn you that latency could be an issue under certain load
conditions with their PBX solution (Lync) which they alluded to as
+1 we have Asterisk based systems (Digium) and they have a lot of really nice
features.
John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
If by only vendor, you mean VMware, that's probably true until Hyper-V 3.0
releases sometime next year.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 9:25 AM
To: NT System Admin
Now you are over my head. :)
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 9:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: TS 2008 question
Thanks guys
I was actually
You may have misunderstood.
The 40-60 concurrent call range per VM server applies to Exchange UM - not
Lync. Lync is a different beast altogether. ;-)
But I still agree with your conclusion.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
From: John Cook
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:56 AM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a desire to run a voice-mail and PBX on virtual machines, if possible.
If the phone system requires any special hardware in the PC, it's
unlikely to work. For example, expansion cards for interface to
analog or TDM
No I mean Mitel claims they are the only vendor with a virtualized PBX that can
vmotion it without any loss of call quality or latency.
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Information overload last week!
John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent:
You guys are crushing my hopes and dreams.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 8:56 AM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a desire to run a voice-mail and PBX on virtual machines, if
possible.
If the phone system
I use the mediabox devices at home for my kids rooms and their gaming TV
(55' LED Samsung). It works well wirelessly as long as we aren't doing 1080
streaming. On wire its fine, or over USB / internal HDD its fine.
They don't have any additional streaming services though, my main TV
(Samsung
I don't buy that one; but you know what they say about vendor's claims :)
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
From: N Parr [mailto:npar...@mortonind.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT -
I saw that Mitel demo at our datacenter awhile back looked nice.
In our office we have an asterisk box sitting in a VM and never have an
issue with it. We are only 10 employees and 4 lines though, but we do a lot
of call routing to our phones, all of our droids are SIP registered with our
That they are as believable as a politician's promises?
Carl Webster
Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional
http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 9:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Or you could do what we did and have a backup system that the main system fails
over to immediately, no muss no fuss. It wasn't all that expensive.
John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352)
Right in one.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT - Phone System In A Virtual Machine
That they are as
Don't be crushed.
You just need to choose a platform that's supported in virtualization. Cisco's
Unified Communications Manager, for example.
--
Phil Brutsche
p...@optimumdata.com
From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 9:12 AM
To: NT System Admin
When you virtualize phone systems it is very common to use an external media
gateway for POTS access.
In the Cisco world, you would use a 28xx or 29xx router with some combination
of T1, FXO, and FXS cards as a voice gateway.
They are not the only vendor of such things either.
--
Phil
James, do you guys run VMWare?
John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
5950 NW 1st Place
Gainesville, Fl 32607
Office (352) 244-1610
Cell (352) 215-6944
MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4
From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:p...@optimumdata.com]
Sent: Tuesday,
I'm expecting a call from a Cisco partner so I'll find out what they have
and I replied to Ben Z regarding his shoretel guy off list. I'm also
meeting with our current phone vendor who sold us our InterTel system we
have now which of course is now Mitel, so I'll see what they have. My most
No, we use Hyper-V but I would not have a problem running VMWare if needed.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:43 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
James, do you guys run VMWare?
** **
*John W. Cook*
*System Administrator*
*Partnership For Strong Families*
*5950 NW 1st
Which it would be best to avoid, personally...
* *
*ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
Technology for the SMB market…
*
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Glen Johnson gjohn...@vhcc.edu wrote:
I’m pretty sure that Cisco now supports their offering in a VMWare
I see all the comments re: latency, but I'm sure the server is only used for
call setup and teardown in our cisco system.
Most of the actual voice traffic doesn't go through the server.
I've actually disconnected the server network cable with calls in progress and
no one noticed. Not on
With the right hardware (modern CPUs with hardware virtualization
assistance), this can be done.
We've been testing and moving various voice related functions to
virtualization and with modern hardware, its quite pleasant.
* *
*ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
I've finally gotten a budget to put in place a web filtering platform. I've
looked at three so far: Websense, iPrism and Barracuda. Of those, I like
Websense but it was too costly and no one liked Barracuda. iPrism is looking
good so far but I'd like to demo a few more.
I'm not opposed to
Look into the cloud-based solution ZScaler. I'm not sure of the pricing
because I don't have to worry about that end of things.
From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: web filtering
I've finally gotten
I have a BarelyCuda and it works well for me...
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:39 AM, pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote:
I've finally gotten a budget to put in place a web filtering platform.
I've looked at three so far: Websense, iPrism and Barracuda. Of those, I
like Websense but it was too costly and
iPrism here.
Love it. It was (maybe still is?) the only solution that offers remote
monitoring of laptops.
There is a small client proxy that gets installed on our laptops, that
allows them to be monitored and blocked from anywhere they connect.
I just renewed: $2,500 for 15 months. ~100
I forgot to mention that we're looking at Zscaler because we're not real happy
with iPrism.
From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: web filtering
I've finally gotten a budget to put in place a web
Is this for a school, or for a business?
We use Lightspeed System's TTC. I know of a nearby school that uses iBoss.
Check'em out.
--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District
- Original Message -
From: pdw1...@hotmail.com
To: NT System
Admin Issues
+1 for IPrism
From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: web filtering
iPrism here.
Love it. It was (maybe still is?) the only solution that offers remote
monitoring of laptops.
There is
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Glen Johnson gjohn...@vhcc.edu wrote:
I see all the comments re: latency, but I'm sure the server is only used
for call setup and teardown in our cisco system.
I can't speak to Cisco, but in many systems the voice
mail/auto-attendant/AVR/IVR/etc. is also on
We use Webmarshall. No idea about price or effectiveness.
From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: web filtering
I have a BarelyCuda and it works well for me...
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:39 AM,
Websense now has a solution in place to monitor remote and off-site laptops
via client or browser setting.
I have websense and it is costly, but our juniper appliances have native
websense/surfcontrol integration and this provided us (about 8 years ago)
the luxury of not needing to
Cisco's IronPort range do web filtering as well as mail filtering now, IIRC
Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird
-Original Message-
From: pdw1...@hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:39:46
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
barracuda works well, but for my remote users I use OpenDNS for filtering.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote:
I have a BarelyCuda and it works well for me...
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:39 AM, pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote:
I've finally gotten a budget to put
We implemented Zscaler in our environment about 3 months ago and are
pretty happy with the product. Let me know if you have any specific
questions.
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 11:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: web
We've been on iBoss for a couple of years now, and have been very pleased. We
left Websense for iBoss due largely to the pricing.
Integration with Active Directory was a big selling point for us. And having a
variety of user types ranging from young kids to young adults to adult
employees, I
As others have mentioned, I know that Shoretel, Cisco and any Asterisk solution
can be virtualized. Shoretel claims to only support VMWare. I don't know about
Cisco and Asterisk claims nothing, being an open source project. (Digium might
offer true VM support, I don't know.)
3cx looks
“Also, websense does has the ability to filter within Citrix sessions.”
…as does iPrism.
From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: web filtering
Websense now has a solution in place to monitor
We are in the process of implementing Zscaler here to replace our BlueCoat
boxes. We have a lot of road warriors, so an on-premise solution was really
not practical for us any longer. So far Zscaler performance seems fine and
their reporting capabilities are very nice.
Jim
Jim Holmgren
*snap*
I know that when WebMarshall decides it can't talk to a DC it blocks internet
access. Otherwise I rarely see it blocking anything for me (but I don't search
for bad things at work!). We have ours blocking .exe's and the like, it also
allows for different max sizes of download during
Love it. It was (maybe still is?) the only solution that offers remote
monitoring of laptops.
There is a small client proxy that gets installed on our laptops, that
allows them to be monitored and blocked from anywhere they connect.
Lightspeed offers something similar for
Last I checked websense couldn't manage Xenapp 6 - they may have caught up,
though
Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird
-Original Message-
From: David Mazzaccaro david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 12:10:04
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
I called a local 3CX vendor whose info I got from the 3CX site and they
flat out said it has a lot of problems and they were moving away from it.
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Matthew W. Ross
mr...@ephrataschools.orgwrote:
As others have mentioned, I know that Shoretel, Cisco and any
Zscaler allows devices to be monitored and blocked regardless of their
location. They can do it without installing an agent. If desired, they can
install an agent that will prevent the users from turning off the monitoring.
What gets blocked at work can be different from what gets blocked
Our firewall has URL filtering which is provided by Brightcloud. Seems pretty
effective.
You've not mentioned user count or what your current firewall is, or what
you're really trying to do (do you want lot of nice reports on normal activity
or do you just want to block bad stuff?).
FWIW you
Can't say I've heard of any major problems with it. But at this point I'm
more of an end user rather than having any responsibility for it.
From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:13 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: web filtering
We have a Fortigate firewall, and use the built-in web filtering. Seems to be
working good for us.
Mark
From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 9:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: web filtering
I've finally gotten a budget to put in place
Rebooted the printer? LOL
From: Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 4:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Print strangness
is default 'letter' defined as 8.5 x 11?
Shauna Hensala
From: gjohn...@vhcc.edu
To:
Sorry if it's been stated before...
Printer Properties, Advanced, Uncheck Enable advanced printing features
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.comwrote:
Rebooted the printer? LOL
** **
*From:* Shauna Hensala [mailto:she...@msn.com]
*Sent:* Monday,
OBTW Hyper-V R2 is already SP1.
From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 3:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VM spontaneously shuts down to saved state under Hyper-V R2
I've got Hyper-V 2008 R2 fully security-patched running at home. I've
Our AD functional level is W2000Native.
The DCs for the external trust are not available at the moment, and can't
be without some work. No computer accounts or user accounts from NT4
domain exist.
This is not a transitive trust, of course, but in Domains and Trusts, it
shows that this domain
Around 200 users as not everyone is allowed access to the internet. Our
firewall doesn't do any kind of web filtering.
Good reporting must be an essential part of the product. I just got a request
from a supervisor asking for a web usage report on all the people in Admitting
and MI. Trying
Can you tell me why you aren't happy with iPrism?
From: k...@colonialsavings.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: web filtering
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:51:35 +
I forgot to mention that we’re looking at Zscaler because we’re not real happy
with iPrism.
iBoss handles all this very well. You can configure per-user, per-device, or a
combination. And reporting options are numerous.
John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us
From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday,
I'm 99.375% sure it was a corrupt print drive on the workstation.
Other people on the same print server/printer could print normally.
Removing and re-installing the printer on the workstation didn't help.
I'm not sure that process actually removes the print driver files completely
though.
But
For those using Zscaler, are you guys integrating into your AD? If yes,
what is Zscaler using to pull user/group info and how responsive is it to
changes/adds?
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 4:35 PM, David Mazzaccaro
david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com wrote:
“we have a training room set up where
1. Domain Admin
2. No
3. No
4. Recreate it or authoritatively restore the objects for the trust from
backup
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com
w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132
From: Bill Monicher [mailto:bmacd5...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08,
I've thought about hosted solutions also but we are currently locked into
contracts for our PRI's. This will be an interesting venture that's for
sure.
James
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Stu Sjouwerman s...@sunbelt-software.comwrote:
James,
** **
I went through that whole exercise a
You guys have this issue ever come up? I think this user was disabled in AD
at about 4pm, and the last email we got from the user's phone was around
8am the next morning. iPhone setup with EAS and we have Exchange 2007.
Could it be due to user token caching like from this forum post?
That's most likely exactly it.
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com
w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132
From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 5:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: iPhone user can still send emails after being disabled in
I am surprised no one has mentioned ShoreTel. It is supported on VMware
4.0. Just remember when you add VOIP to your network it will expose your
latency and misconfigurations because missing 3 seconds of voice is
critical and an email will go unnoticed. VOIP is like the canary in the
mine. It dies
We are just stumped.. and we have our security people freak'n out on us
about it... even with user token caching.. it sounds like it is only for
15 minutes? i don't get how they could send an email 16 hours later (the
last email we saw).
-BenN
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Brian Desmond
Tst it.
Then learn to recycle the appPool.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
From: Ben N [mailto:bennordlan...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 6:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: iPhone user can still send emails after
We use WebSense currently and are happy with it, but are in the process of
evaluating Kaspersky which now has web content filtering built into their
corporate management product. The thing we really like about it is that is
lives on the machine so it provides consistent protection regardless of
The guest VM does show VSS errors, but those have been happening all along,
ever since I started using Windows backup on the H-V host. Event 12293 from
source VSS:
Volume Shadow Copy Service error: Error calling a routine on the Shadow
Copy Provider {b5946137-7b9f-4925-af80-51abd60b20d5}.
Long time user of WebMarshal here. It's cheap and a few years back was quite
good. These days development of the product has really fallen behind so I'm
looking at replacing it.
From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 November 2011 3:13 AM
To: NT System Admin
I have used iPrism for several years. Very happy with it. The mobile client
is excellent.
BF
From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 11:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: web filtering
I've finally gotten a budget to put in place a web
There used to be a reg hack to control this too on the IIS side.
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com
w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 6:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: iPhone user
Yeah, it appears to be a web.config file change now (2008 / 2008 R2); but as
far as I can see - it should still default to 15 minutes. Dunno why they would
see 8+ hours.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
From: Brian Desmond
AD replication is set for 30 minutes since the DC we would have disabled
the account is at a different site than the DC local to exchange. We've
ruled out people enabling her account that had access. We checked msg
trackign log and it shows delivery right at the time it was in her sent
items.
it
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