RE: Reality check

2012-06-12 Thread Free, Bob
ard [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 6:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reality check Only if they have AGPM installed Don... not all have it. Its definitely nice though, and helps keep GPO's controlled and audited. Z Edward Ziots CISSP, Security +, Network

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2012-06-11 Thread Guyer, Don
For immediate assistance, please open a Service Desk ticket or call the helpdesk @ 610-492-3839. -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 9:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reality check Only if they have AGPM installed

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2012-06-11 Thread Ziots, Edward
o:dgu...@che.org] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 8:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reality check On top of that you can use Group Policy Management's Change Control feature for approving/unapproving remote tech's GPO submissions. Regards, Don Guyer Catholic Health Eas

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2012-06-11 Thread Guyer, Don
08, 2012 4:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reality check You can delegate off the GPO stuff as well. -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reality check Already did exactl

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2012-06-10 Thread Erik Goldoff
>From a security principles standpoint, that was spot on. Falls under the concept of Least Privilege. Provide absolutely ALL the privilege needed to perform required duties, but not any privilege in excess. Domain admin for a local install would be a violation of best practice. From: David

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2012-06-10 Thread Ziots, Edward
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 12:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reality check “separation of privileges or separation of duties which should be firmly entrenched in most workplaces” HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAA! Oh wait, you said “should

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2012-06-08 Thread Coleman, Hunter
You can delegate off the GPO stuff as well. -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, June 8, 2012 1:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reality check Already did exactly this for the Service Desk a couple years ago, the only different for

Re: Reality check

2012-06-08 Thread Kurt Buff
bet it'd take a while before they noticed...like the next time they went > to mess with a GPO (which is rare, but it happens). > > Dave > > -Original Message- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 11:47 AM > To: NT System Admin

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2012-06-08 Thread David Lum
e, but it happens). Dave -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Reality check If that's all they need, then delegation is your friend. It's pretty dang easy to set up, too. Create a

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2012-06-08 Thread Kurt Buff
riday, June 08, 2012 10:23 AM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Reality check > > > > In your shoes I might be tempted to present them with a fait accompli - > over the weekend strip their user accounts of DA privileges and create new > accounts for them that a

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2012-06-08 Thread David Lum
Yeah after seeing other responses I did exactly that. Better than a "per server" account. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 10:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Reality check On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:11 AM,

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2012-06-08 Thread David Lum
Issues Subject: Re: Reality check In your shoes I might be tempted to present them with a fait accompli - over the weekend strip their user accounts of DA privileges and create new accounts for them that allows them to do what they need to do. Of course, you'd want to show the manager o

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2012-06-08 Thread Kurt Buff
m they’re normal accounts > are DA accounts. > > ** ** > > Hmm…that might be a vent… > > ** ** > > *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] > *Sent:* Friday, June 08, 2012 6:57 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: Reality check &

Re: Reality check

2012-06-08 Thread Kurt Buff
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:11 AM, David Lum wrote: > A fellow team member (not an SE, but more of an application owner type of > tech person) needs Local Admin access to a server to install and configure a > new application on it. I understand the need and agree with it. > > Instead of just throwing

RE: Reality check

2012-06-08 Thread Free, Bob
: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reality check “separation of privileges or separation of duties which should be firmly entrenched in most workplaces” HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAA! Oh wait, you said “should” Dude, our users are still local admins and I’m the only one who seems to care, not one of

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2012-06-08 Thread Rankin, James R
; Subject: RE: Reality check “separation of privileges or separation of duties which should be firmly entrenched in most workplaces” HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAA! Oh wait, you said “should” Dude, our users are still local admins and I’m the only one who seems to care, not one of the 5 Service Des

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2012-06-08 Thread David Lum
System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reality check Seems strange that business users would have admin access to a server, which wouldn’t obey separation of privileges or separation of duties which should be firmly entrenched in most workplaces ( again YMMV as stated before). Z Edward Ziots CISSP

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2012-06-08 Thread Jonathan Link
No, he created LA_ account, for example, mine would be LA_jonathan.link. On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Ken Schaefer wrote: > You created a general account? Rather than a specific account for the > user? > > ** ** > > In general though, in a small environment I would create a Domain grou

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2012-06-08 Thread Ken Schaefer
You created a general account? Rather than a specific account for the user? In general though, in a small environment I would create a Domain group of some kind (e.g. Universal or Global). The Domain group would be based on a business need/business unit/etc. Add that group to the Local Administr

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2012-06-08 Thread Ziots, Edward
Engineer Lifespan Organization ezi...@lifespan.org From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 9:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Reality check It depends on your environment. That's almost identical to the procedure we have here.

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2012-06-08 Thread Don Kuhlman
I don't think so. In the last three organizations I've been at, all have a similar process and setup.  Different naming standard, but same purpose and results.  However, we didn't use GPO to setup the group on the server.  That sounds pretty neat and automated. Now back to my hub transport outa

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2012-06-08 Thread Christopher Bodnar
It depends on your environment. That's almost identical to the procedure we have here. When provisioning a new server here, part of the process is to create a new AD group with this naming convention: ACME_ADMINS_SERVERNAME This group is then placed in the local administrators group of the serv

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2012-06-08 Thread Jonathan Link
It depends... :-) On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:11 AM, David Lum wrote: > A fellow team member (not an SE, but more of an application owner type of > tech person) needs Local Admin access to a server to install and configure > a new application on it. I understand the need and agree with it. > >

RE: Reality check (an easy one)

2011-12-16 Thread David Lum
New VHD file format? Must be related to live migration? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 7:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reality check (an easy one) The major thing I don't like about this sce

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2011-12-16 Thread David Lum
se SQL. From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 7:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Reality check (an easy one) In the case of upgrading 2008 to 2008 R2, I've done it a handful of times with no complaints to note. In this specific case, it s

RE: Reality check (an easy one)

2011-12-16 Thread Michael B. Smith
he VM - get the best of all the new worlds. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 10:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Reality che

Re: Reality check (an easy one)

2011-12-16 Thread Andrew S. Baker
In the case of upgrading 2008 to 2008 R2, I've done it a handful of times with no complaints to note. In this specific case, it should be easy. If they have enough hardware, though, I would definitely use that, because there would be zero downtime and no real chance to have any problems. * * *A

Re: Reality check (an easy one)

2011-12-16 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 9:42 AM, David Lum wrote: > Step 1 is very straightforward right? Going from 64-bit non-R2 to R2 can be > done in-place with no worries? I don't like in-place upgrades on Windows. Never have. Given how little configuration is living in your host OS, doing a clean insta

Re: Reality check

2010-01-22 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 21 Jan 2010 at 16:04, Mayo, Bill wrote: > I am terribly frustrated with an application vendor who is on-site to > add a new module to on of our critical software packages, and I want to > confirm it is not just me being difficult. This system already has the > requirement that a workstation b

RE: Reality check

2010-01-21 Thread Erik Goldoff
ry 21, 2010 5:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reality check I have myself used that software in the past for that purpose. Because of the way this software works (counters, cancel buttons, dialogs when there is a problem, etc), I don't think it would work. Beyond that, this vendo

RE: Reality check

2010-01-21 Thread Bob Fronk
We also have a program that has to be logged in to run. Not only does it need to have a user logged in, it won't auto-start. I have it in "start-up" but it still takes manual intervention. It is maddening. -Original Message- From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Thu

Re: Reality check

2010-01-21 Thread Jon Harris
t didn't >>> happen. >>> >>> Thanks to all for the confirmation that I am not just difficult (at >>> least in this case!). >>> >>> Bill Mayo >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:c

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2010-01-21 Thread Mayo, Bill
___ From: Sean Martin [mailto:seanmarti...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Reality check First, I agree with everyone else. Software in today's world shouldn't have that type of dependency. Unfortunately,current versions of today&#x

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2010-01-21 Thread Jon Harris
firmation that I am not just difficult (at >> least in this case!). >> >> Bill Mayo >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] >> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:23 PM >> To: NT System Admin Is

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2010-01-21 Thread Mayo, Bill
an do. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Reality check Perhaps you can take the tack that your department owns the network, and that you won't have such an insecure setup on yo

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2010-01-21 Thread Sean Martin
christopher_bod...@glic.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:23 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Reality check > > As long as you are tied to the vendor, they will do whatever they want, > which means not fixing the problem. > > Any possibility of shoppin

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2010-01-21 Thread Kurt Buff
s to services.  Guess that didn't > happen. > > Thanks to all for the confirmation that I am not just difficult (at > least in this case!). > > Bill Mayo > > -Original Message- > From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] > Sent: Thursda

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2010-01-21 Thread Mayo, Bill
ficult (at least in this case!). Bill Mayo -Original Message- From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Reality check As long as you are tied to the vendor, they will do whatever they w

Re: Reality check

2010-01-21 Thread Silvio L. Nisgoski
You are right. But as you , I´ve fought with vendors when the client were tied to them, and they don´t understand/don´t want to understand the importance of not running with it logged. The most common answer I use to hear is that "all their other clients use it like this and don´t complain"

RE: Reality check

2010-01-21 Thread Christopher Bodnar
As long as you are tied to the vendor, they will do whatever they want, which means not fixing the problem. Any possibility of shopping around for another vendor? Chris Bodnar, MCSE Sr. Systems Engineer Infrastructure Service Delivery Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardi

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2010-01-21 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Noo. I can think of a dozen problems with that scenario, both operationally and security wise, without even knowing any further details. -sc > -Original Message- > From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:05 PM > To: NT System Admin Issue

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2010-01-21 Thread Michael B. Smith
Hi Bill. I graduated from ECU in 1983 and did some of my grad work at Pitt Memorial. I have fond memories of Pitt County. Enough of old home week - push back. Really really hard. That's ridiculous. Services are even easy to do in the Win32 API. It takes less than 20 lines of code in C# to sta

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2010-01-21 Thread Kurt Buff
No, you are not alone. Any company that vends software to run on a server, and which can't figure out how to make it run as a service, should immediately go bankrupt, and their software devs and management should be publicly flogged. Kurt On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 13:04, Mayo, Bill wrote: > I am

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2010-01-21 Thread Steve Kelsay
You are not alone. Unfortunately, it is common enough in the application design field. -Original Message- From: Mayo, Bill [mailto:bem...@pittcountync.gov] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:05 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Reality check I am terribly frustrated with an applica