Re: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-23 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Basically the question is about how we want to brand and manage the > Oak effort going forward. Sounds like we have emerging consensus to keep Oak in Jackrabbit and have Jackrabbit 3.0 be based on Oak. I'll follow up on the main Jackrab

Re: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-05 Thread Stefan Guggisberg
+1 to the Bertrand's suggestion "same project name, different software name" cheers stefan

Re: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-05 Thread Michael Marth
+1 to the Bertrand's suggestion "same project name, different software name" This would keep the community together, but also allows us to have different aims for Jackrabbit (reference impl) and Oak (some level of compliance, not reference impl). On Oct 3, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz

Re: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Tommaso Teofili wrote: > ...there is a goal in Oak to be less strict with regard to JCR spec > compatibility which, in my opinion, makes a > possibly important point of distinction. > If this understanding is correct then I think it'd make sense to have > separate

AW: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-03 Thread KÖLL Claus
i'm feeling absolutly with angela. like angela said I would also be afraid that jackrabbit has no future ... what if we made it like the j2ee profiles. there is a full compliant profile but also some lighter profiles. we can make also profiles so that people can choose which profile they want us

Re: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-03 Thread Angela Schreiber
hi tommaso At the same time I see the community development concern; I'm still quite new here so I don't have a clear understanding of who is actually working on both Oak and Jackrabbit and who's working only on one of them, also it may be that this distinction doesn't actually exist at the m

Re: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-03 Thread Tommaso Teofili
g [mailto:jukka.zitt...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Montag, 1. Oktober 2012 12:27 >> To: Oak devs >> Subject: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 >> implementation effort) >> >> Hi, >> >> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Jukka Zit

Re: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Dürig
into its own project later on when this turns out to be feasible/beneficial. Michael Regards Marcel -Original Message- From: Jukka Zitting [mailto:jukka.zitt...@gmail.com] Sent: Montag, 1. Oktober 2012 12:27 To: Oak devs Subject: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for

Re: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-02 Thread Angela Schreiber
hi my preference is something like 2), but with the JCR related components moved to Jackrabbit. I'd like to see Oak as a hierarchical content repository implementation, but not necessarily as a JCR repository. that might be another way to look at it. but what we in fact have right now is an oa

RE: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-02 Thread Marcel Reutegger
gards Marcel > -Original Message- > From: Jukka Zitting [mailto:jukka.zitt...@gmail.com] > Sent: Montag, 1. Oktober 2012 12:27 > To: Oak devs > Subject: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 > implementation effort) > > Hi, > > On

Re: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-01 Thread Bart van der Schans
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Ate Douma wrote: > On 10/01/2012 03:10 PM, Michael Dürig wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1.10.12 12:36, Alexander Klimetschek wrote: >>> >>> On 01.10.2012, at 12:26, Jukka Zitting wrote: >>> 1) The Oak codebase will become Jackrabbit 3.0 sometime next year >>> >>>

Re: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-01 Thread Unico Hommes
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Jukka Zitting > wrote: > > As discussed earlier and mentioned again by Roy, the Oak name is a bit > > troublesome for more general branding, which reinforces the point that > > we'll use it as a codena

Re: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-01 Thread Ate Douma
On 10/01/2012 03:10 PM, Michael Dürig wrote: On 1.10.12 12:36, Alexander Klimetschek wrote: On 01.10.2012, at 12:26, Jukka Zitting wrote: 1) The Oak codebase will become Jackrabbit 3.0 sometime next year 2) We spin off the Oak effort to a new Apache project I think 1) makes more sense

Re: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-01 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-10-01 16:20, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2012-10-01 15:57, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: 2012/10/1 Julian Reschke : I'm not sure that it's a good idea to call something "Jackrabbit" that is so different in what it supports compared to "current" Jackrabbit. Just from the peanut gallery: we di

Re: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-01 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-10-01 15:57, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: 2012/10/1 Julian Reschke : I'm not sure that it's a good idea to call something "Jackrabbit" that is so different in what it supports compared to "current" Jackrabbit. Just from the peanut gallery: we did the same years ago with Cocoon, the 2.0 ve

Re: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-01 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
2012/10/1 Julian Reschke : > > I'm not sure that it's a good idea to call something "Jackrabbit" that is so > different in what it supports compared to "current" Jackrabbit. > Just from the peanut gallery: we did the same years ago with Cocoon, the 2.0 version was 100% different than every previou

AW: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-01 Thread KÖLL Claus
On 1.10.12 12:36, Alexander Klimetschek wrote: > On 01.10.2012, at 12:26, Jukka Zitting wrote: > >> 1) The Oak codebase will become Jackrabbit 3.0 sometime next year > >> 2) We spin off the Oak effort to a new Apache project > > I think 1) makes more sense given all the innovative work going into

Re: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-01 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2012-10-01 12:26, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: As discussed earlier and mentioned again by Roy, the Oak name is a bit troublesome for more general branding, which reinforces the point that we'll use it as a codename for the development effort

Re: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-01 Thread Michael Dürig
On 1.10.12 12:36, Alexander Klimetschek wrote: On 01.10.2012, at 12:26, Jukka Zitting wrote: 1) The Oak codebase will become Jackrabbit 3.0 sometime next year 2) We spin off the Oak effort to a new Apache project I think 1) makes more sense given all the innovative work going into Oak.

Re: The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-01 Thread Alexander Klimetschek
On 01.10.2012, at 12:26, Jukka Zitting wrote: > 1) The Oak codebase will become Jackrabbit 3.0 sometime next year > 2) We spin off the Oak effort to a new Apache project I think 1) makes more sense given all the innovative work going into Oak. Keeping Jackrabbit 2.x in maintenance mode seems m

The destiny of Oak (Was: [RESULT] [VOTE] Codename for the jr3 implementation effort)

2012-10-01 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote: > As discussed earlier and mentioned again by Roy, the Oak name is a bit > troublesome for more general branding, which reinforces the point that > we'll use it as a codename for the development effort and decide later > on whether to brand