Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] INCO : LABA CUMAN 10 TRriliun
Trio Macan Hari ini : Kakak Besar : TINS Kakak Kedua : INCO Kakak Ketiga : ANTM ANTM ngikut ga ya??? PAkah 15 seblum penutupan???
[obrolan-bandar] TINS nyundul
TINS break all new HIGH ! ngikut apa enggak ya.. 32Knya tebel banget.. paling2 turun maning.. kalau break 32050 apakah kira bisa pake buy high sell higher ? soalnya Jumat bow,,
Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI: The untold SECRET of PER.......Re: IF I MAY...
and.. when would it be Mbah ? On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:06 PM, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah bantu jawab pake teori: The untold SECRET of AALI... Pada perusahan yg labanya naik terus maka angka PER menjadi ANEH. ANEH nya dimana ?. Pada growing profit company sepeeti AALI: - angka PER akan RENDAH pada awal tahun dan - angka PER akan TINGGI pada ahir tahun. Kalo engga percaya HITUNG sendiri dan COBA cari kenapa ?. Karena SECRET inilah maka, laporan keuangan Q1 suka DIUMPETIN !!! Engga percaya ?. Buktikan teori embah INI dengan nyari lap keuangan AALI quarter 1 di WEB BEJ !!! Kalo bisa ketemu artinya mata embah udah BUTA...hehehe... Karena angka PER menjadi tinggi pada pengumuman laporan AKHIR tahun maka AALI akan terlihat lebih mahal TAPI ketika lap Q1 2008 keluar maka angka PER akan menjadi RENDAH SEKALI dan disini investor akan berlomba loba beli AALI yaitu pada akhir April... Disaat itulah AALI akan menembus 43000...hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Welly Lamono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr FS and all, CPO flies high this morning. But CPO companies nyungsep alias down. Why is that? Thanks Pemain Mini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr FS, how long is mid term and long term according to you ? - Original Message - From: Frederick Schubert To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IF I MAY... Dear Pak Hendra, Thanks for such a wonderful view... Things to watch are exactly what you have said... funds that are in our market now are coming for few sources only... and as liquidity is less than ample, we have to be still on alert mode... That's why I mentioned about behavioral investment... But, I must say again that what happened now should be not much worrying long and mid term lovers... For CPO lovers, more IPOs are coming from cpo producers...some are worth notifying some dont... For UNSP, I believe that a series of corporate actions are on the table. It may vary from being acquired by or acquiring stake in other companies. Land acquisitions may be regular story so as the acquisitions but efficiency and debt management are badly needed by UNSP. I still have high target share price for UNSP... a onethird of LSIP in the mid term o long run would not be just a dream... for all, thanks for sharing... safe trade always, fs - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
Hihihi no comment ah kalo soal si EL, toh yg lain juga bisa menilai Sorry cuma iseng. Andrew wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Emang Bursa itu tempat ramal-meramal atau tebak menebak. Tiada yang kebetulan dibursa itu, semua berdasarkan hasil kerja keras dan penelitian. Seandainya saja bursa seperti maunya Mrs. EL maka ybs sudah pasti akan menyaingi Om Buffet dan ybs. juga ngapain lagi becanda di milis ini. YBS hanya orang KESURUPAN yg maniak dan GEMAR OMONG KOSONG SAJA, ANGGAP SAJA YBS TIDAK LEBIH DARI BANNER IKLAN... Salam Andrew 2008/2/29, hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Beruangnya uda kelatan mba EL, btw, welcome back... - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
Pak Cat bener2 serius ngarepin MNCN gocap nihhh? :D klo emang jadi gocap saya juga ikut nampung dong... Pada tanggal 29/02/08, Cleopatras Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: hehe kemaren ada kata kata bijaksana dari sesepuh OB di postingan. bunyinya: selamat bersabar. barusan si Mbah juga nulis ya sabar sabar wae. ya saya akan sabar aja nunggu sambil ngutak ngatik itungan saya kemaren siang ini. kapan tepatnya MNCN nemenin POLY di pelaminan gocap. buat MNCN Fans Club my deepest sympathy. repot juga ya. mesti sediain ember berapa banyak tuh buat AD in. eh tadi pagi broker saya bujukin saya buat beli obat. katanya mumpung obat lg murah banget. padahal saya sehat sehat aja lho. ya sudah terbujuk jg saya icip icip sedikit obatnya. kalo toko obatnya keliatan mo jalan mungkin saya mau AU in. *budi zhu [EMAIL PROTECTED]* schrieb: See, EL? Just like usually... :p Btw, saya tetap salut sama Anda. Udah sering dicemooh, masih tetap posting memberikan peringatan kepada para member OB. Pak CC, kita nonton aja nih? Atau nanti kumpulan barang-barang sisa rampasan perang? Best Regards, budi -- *E-Mails jetzt auf Ihrem Handy.*http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51524/*http://de.mobile.yahoo.com/interstitial?refer=e00127. -- http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com
Re: justru NAIK Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dewa oh Dewa
Slg, Menurut pengalaman sy no.1 Tergantung rezeki dr YMK, no.2 Liat fundamental yg simple2 aja, no.3 Liat2 TA jg tp yg sangat2 simple lalu no.4 Cocokin deh ama Feeling kita, gitu loh, gampang kan hehehe. GBUs Always (Ini yg paling penting tanpa ini we are Nothing), SB Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from XL GPRS network -Original Message- From: Salomo Gaol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:20:52 To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: justru NAIK Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dewa oh Dewa Lo saya binun... pake TA juga bukannya maen feeling yah? perasaan saya sih setiap saya maen feeling cuan.. maen insider malah loss slg + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] AALI: The untold SECRET of PER.......Re: IF I MAY...
Biasanya memang ada sebagian perusahaan yg sering ngumpetin laba bersih pada laporan 1Q untuk jaga-2 bila pada kwartal lain berjalan tidak sesuai harapan. Tetapi khusus AALI hal ini juga disebabkan harga jual komoditi yang pada kwartal 1-3 '2007 tidak setinggi pencapaian pada kwartal ke-4. Biasanya rilis buletin investor yg sering diterbitkan setiap bulan bisa dikumpulkan untuk menjadi acuan investor. Saya dulu sering menganalisa ANTM yg sering mengumpetkan pencapaian laba bersih pada kwartal 1-2 tetapi khususnya sejak thn 2007 umpetan sudah tidak kelihatan. 2008/2/29, Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: and.. when would it be Mbah ? On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:06 PM, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Embah bantu jawab pake teori: The untold SECRET of AALI... Pada perusahan yg labanya naik terus maka angka PER menjadi ANEH. ANEH nya dimana ?. Pada growing profit company sepeeti AALI: - angka PER akan RENDAH pada awal tahun dan - angka PER akan TINGGI pada ahir tahun. Kalo engga percaya HITUNG sendiri dan COBA cari kenapa ?. Karena SECRET inilah maka, laporan keuangan Q1 suka DIUMPETIN !!! Engga percaya ?. Buktikan teori embah INI dengan nyari lap keuangan AALI quarter 1 di WEB BEJ !!! Kalo bisa ketemu artinya mata embah udah BUTA...hehehe... Karena angka PER menjadi tinggi pada pengumuman laporan AKHIR tahun maka AALI akan terlihat lebih mahal TAPI ketika lap Q1 2008 keluar maka angka PER akan menjadi RENDAH SEKALI dan disini investor akan berlomba loba beli AALI yaitu pada akhir April... Disaat itulah AALI akan menembus 43000...hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Welly Lamono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr FS and all, CPO flies high this morning. But CPO companies nyungsep alias down. Why is that? Thanks Pemain Mini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr FS, how long is mid term and long term according to you ? - Original Message - From: Frederick Schubert To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IF I MAY... Dear Pak Hendra, Thanks for such a wonderful view... Things to watch are exactly what you have said... funds that are in our market now are coming for few sources only... and as liquidity is less than ample, we have to be still on alert mode... That's why I mentioned about behavioral investment... But, I must say again that what happened now should be not much worrying long and mid term lovers... For CPO lovers, more IPOs are coming from cpo producers...some are worth notifying some dont... For UNSP, I believe that a series of corporate actions are on the table. It may vary from being acquired by or acquiring stake in other companies. Land acquisitions may be regular story so as the acquisitions but efficiency and debt management are badly needed by UNSP. I still have high target share price for UNSP... a onethird of LSIP in the mid term o long run would not be just a dream... for all, thanks for sharing... safe trade always, fs - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FREN vs MNCN
Belum disentuh ama bandar :D 2008/2/29 riomudjid [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ini saham satu geng sama MNCN ya?? kok gerakkan sama ya, turun melulu, khan industrinya ok... udah growth business 65%, tetep aja nukik.. Om HT, tolong donkk
Re: [obrolan-bandar] CPRO --- Warrant -- Berita Ferringhill
thanks takafumi, untung aja ngga jadi beli lagi, setelah mengamati seminggu terkahir ternyata 2 hari terakhir sudah dijatuhin lagi emang bumi top deh, mending coal daripada udang :) On 2/29/08, Takafumi Horie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CPRO memiliki 4 jenis warrant (dari warrant 1 sampai 4) Total jumlah warrant tersebut adalah 5.25 milyar lembar saham Sedangkan pemilik warrant nya sebagai berikut: Warrant 1 Warrant 2 Sea lion investment LTD 207,886,500 (13.86%) 207,886,500 (13.86%) Mimosa International LTD180,000,000 (12%) 180,000,000 (12%) Al Wazor Investment LTD245,500,000 (16.37%) 245,500,000 (16.37%) Arcutus LTD 169,000,000 (11.27%) 169,000,000 ( 11.27%) Avior LTD 195,500,000 (13.03%)195,500,000 ( 13.03%) Total 997,886,500 (66.53%) 997,886,500 (66.53%) Bayangkan mereka memiliki warrant sebanyak 66.53% untuk setiap jenis warrant Dengan harga konversi CPRO-W = 125 dan CPRO-W2 = 130 Dengan mengeluarkan berita Ferringhill menjadi bagian pemilik saham Yang mana tanggal munculnya berita ini bersamaan dengan tanggal konversi CPRO-W2 Teman2 semua seharusnya berhati2, karena bisa saja mereka mengkonversikan seluruh warrant itu Tanpa memikirkan investor kecil seperti kita, yang penting mereka bisa dapat saham induk dengan biaya murah Dengan harga saham induk (CPRO) diharga 320 an mereka hanya perlu kira2 255 M untuk mendapatkan saham induk. Lalu mereka dengan mudah menjualnya kepada investor kecil seperti kita yang terbuai dengan kenaikan semu saham ini. Nah sekali lagi kita telah mendapatkan bentuk management seperti apa yang ada di dalam CPRO ini Menurut saya saham ini berbahaya sekali Karena orang2 didalam nya hanya memikirkan keuntungan mereka dari orang2 yang cut loss dan investor yang tidak kuat mengalami kocokan saham ini Mereka berbeda sekali dengan perusahaam Bakrie dan Harry Tanoe Jadi menurut saya berpikir lah lebih banyak jika memutuskan untuk membeli saham ini. Berhati2lah didalam berinvestasi, asset anda merupakan harta yang sangat berharga Melindungi asset merupakan bagian terpenting dalam berinvestasi Salam Cuan
Re: justru NAIK Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dewa oh Dewa
Klo pengalaman nyangkut bapak gimana? hehehe... just kidding ah... 2008/2/29, SbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Slg, Menurut pengalaman sy no.1 Tergantung rezeki dr YMK, no.2 Liat fundamental yg simple2 aja, no.3 Liat2 TA jg tp yg sangat2 simple lalu no.4 Cocokin deh ama Feeling kita, gitu loh, gampang kan hehehe. GBUs Always (Ini yg paling penting tanpa ini we are Nothing), SB Sent from my BlackBerry(R) wireless device from XL GPRS network -Original Message- From: Salomo Gaol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:20:52 To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: justru NAIK Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dewa oh Dewa Lo saya binun... pake TA juga bukannya maen feeling yah? perasaan saya sih setiap saya maen feeling cuan.. maen insider malah loss slg + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links -- http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
Yah India -547, On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Heryadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bagaimana nich menurut boss JA DE - Original Message - *From:* Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, February 29, 2008 2:19 PM *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... *Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL *
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
track record FS di millis OB lebih bagus daripada EL EL banyak bull shit dan menjebak FS ok analisanya selama ini On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:35 PM, abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't kow well FS. Namun sepertinya tantangan Elaine bakal seru neh. Saya nonton deh... On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED]orkaybgt%40gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
hehe kemaren ada kata kata bijaksana dari sesepuh OB di postingan. bunyinya: selamat bersabar. barusan si Mbah juga nulis ya sabar sabar wae. ya saya akan sabar aja nunggu sambil ngutak ngatik itungan saya kemaren siang ini. kapan tepatnya MNCN nemenin POLY di pelaminan gocap. buat MNCN Fans Club my deepest sympathy. repot juga ya. mesti sediain ember berapa banyak tuh buat AD in. eh tadi pagi broker saya bujukin saya buat beli obat. katanya mumpung obat lg murah banget. padahal saya sehat sehat aja lho. ya sudah terbujuk jg saya icip icip sedikit obatnya. kalo toko obatnya keliatan mo jalan mungkin saya mau AU in. budi zhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: See, EL? Just like usually... :p Btw, saya tetap salut sama Anda. Udah sering dicemooh, masih tetap posting memberikan peringatan kepada para member OB. Pak CC, kita nonton aja nih? Atau nanti kumpulan barang-barang sisa rampasan perang? Best Regards, budi - E-Mails jetzt auf Ihrem Handy..
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PENYEBAB HARGA NIKEL MULAI REBOUND
Bukannya salah satu dari 5 ahli nuklir fusi dingin lulusan Tokyo U itu orang Indonesia? Perusahaan power utility yg punya PLTNuklir yg udah IPO ada gak ya? - Original Message - From: hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:15 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PENYEBAB HARGA NIKEL MULAI REBOUND KIra2 ANTM (ANEKA TAMBANG) akan melirik Coal apa ga ya?? Kalau 150 tahun, berarti BUMI dan PTBA bisa bertahan 150 tahun lagi. Namun dalam 150 tahun teknologi energinya gimana ya?? Fusi dingin?? Fisi nuklir?? Tekbolog nuklir dan panas bumi (Indonesai berlimpah) bia jadi alternatif yang menarik...
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FREN vs MNCN
Lupakan saja saham semacam ini. keadaan ekonomi global ngak jelas, safety aja ke komodity sektor. (Maaf) andakan tidak punya kemampuan menggiring pasar, jadi jangan cari penyekit aja, be safety aja... 2008/2/29, Lina G [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Belum disentuh ama bandar :D 2008/2/29 riomudjid [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ini saham satu geng sama MNCN ya?? kok gerakkan sama ya, turun melulu, khan industrinya ok... udah growth business 65%, tetep aja nukik.. Om HT, tolong donkk
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IF I MAY...
I believe you in BUMI. I've heard that rumor (9000). another rumor is BHP open a negotiation to buy BUMI share. regards, ai On 2/28/08, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all... thank you for such candid responses and replies... while enjoying trading on distress Wall Street (now down 128 points as I write on weak econ data)... I must apology for any of my comment that could cause any inconvenience... I believe that u are all masters of equity.. any correction tomorrow should be a bless... To get to 3k, we need big cap shares to drive on... I would start with BUMI which is now in the top five of the main index drivers... Let's pray that IDR9,000 would only become its first stop...any correction below IDR7850 should be considered as a token from the God of the market, meaning you can make your in-laws as collateral to buy the shares (hehe...not a good joke). I believe that in any metricBUMI is better than PTBA or expensive ITMG. PTBA should also have a chance to return to above IDR12,200, which always becomes a level of judgement... (technical analyst please correct). ASII: 2007 net profit was in line with most analyst forecast and COULD show that underlying drive for economy remains healthy. IDR32,000 would be good...best buy? 27,200 may be ok BMRI: it is always underestimated...and hated due to its laggard status...but for sure, collection of one big fund is almost nearing and end...so, IDR3,800 would be proper ..best buy 3250 AALI: looks heavier and hard to hit IDR36k dreamed by most long term lovers, but let's see...anything could happen... INDF: it is stil undervalued and may have its real price refelected after the acquisition of LSIP consolidated...IDR3,600-IDR3,800 would be on the table..best buy 2,875 PGAS: hard to say...but recent development might show that some funds want to collect these shares at cheaper prices...best buy? any level below IDR13600.; percentage gain to be booked? some 12% from the lowest level I mentioned later TLKM: too many overhangs...from less innovative branding to hesitant business development...10,800 would be a judgement...those who got it at 7300 when sell-off done should be awarded...while current bestbuy would be at 9850 or below and please take a look at good second line stocks like the coreporate game champion BNBR and ELTY...lot of lessons we could take... forget bdmn, bbca, butu may take agood look at BBRI, even charming when economy slows down...8,200...could be again, please million of apologies if the above is against your opinions... just a share... best, fs -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPRO
ok thanks, gw ngga pegang CPRO lagi sejak CPRO jatuh tape di agustus 07, skg maen coal dan sdg ngamati ASII, bagus ngga yah ASII.. khan blue chip tuh.. On 2/29/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tuh pagi-pagi BW udh buang hajat Mereka kayaknya mau bikin yg pegang cpro frustasi and cut loss.. hati-hati teman.. dan jangan sampe kegocek. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, deso_trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: huahauhauaha... betul pak jsxtrader, CPRO ini dulunya bukan saham udang tapi lobster, karena bandarnya ngga terlalu suka banyak penumpang gelap yg gerogoti nih lobster makanya skenarionya juga gila2an, dan banyak yg tumpah darah... tapi dari sekian perjuangan saya di cpro tetap ada gain kok, skg masih di bumi dan sedikit di antm, karena pertambangan juga ok... :) :) On 2/28/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wuihh banyak banget pak..., bukan cuma penumpang gelap.., copet, jambret, preman, ngumpul semua disini... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, Harry harry_id@ wrote: saya heran...kenapa kalo cpro jatoh langsung dimaki2 saham busuk dll.sedangkan kalo antm atau bumi yg jatoh alesannya menurunkan penumpang gelap dulu baru nti naik lagi.. apakah di cpro ngga ada penumpang gelapnya?? salam newbie --- Handoyo Gozali hgozali@ wrote: saya sih belum baca reportnya. dengan kapan, 2000 itu bisa aja terjadi. mungkin yg dimaksud di riset bukan 12 bulan, tapi 12 taon, sekali lagi muuungkin. - Original Message - From: kang_ocoy_maen_saham To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 3:15 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPRO nah itu dy, 2000 itu mungkin2 aja asal kapan dan pada kondisi bagaimana.. seyogyanya ada keterangan seperti itu di reportnya.. nah di reportnya pak norico bni di state Rp2000 itu kapan yah?? kayanya bukan 12 bulan dehh... tp biasanya riset di indonesia time horizonnya 12 bulan sihh... ato mungkin yg baca risetnya salah tangkep itu di 12 bulan?? ato emang bener revenue estimated pak norico di 2008 udah 20 trilliun langsung??? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups.com, Takafumi Horie ebidaisuki@ wrote: Kang Ocoy Yang buat reseach nya itu Norico Gaman dari BNI securities Kalo menurut saya sih, angka 2,000 itu mungkin saja terjadi Tapi yah...bukan tahun ini kali ya...mungkin beberapa tahun mendatang Ini pun dengan asumsi Diasena (AWS-Arjuna Wijaya Sakti dan WM- Wachyuni Mandira) sudah dalam keadaan full speed Atau kira2 seluruh tambak nya CPRO memproduksi 120,000 udang beku dengan harga udang 10 USD/Kg nah mungkin dengan angka segitu akan bisa mengenerate revenue kira2 20T Dengan integrasi vertikal perusahaan dari pembenihan sampai penjualan dikuasai penuh Maka target 2,000 mungkin saja terjadi... Tapi melihat kondisi sekarang...h bagaimana ya. __ __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Tanda alam: Koneksi Telkom ke LN down ?
Kabel bawah laut yg ke Batam putus krn pembangunan jembatan di Palembang, makanya koneksinya terganggu. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Gambler Bej [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sudah sejak semalam koneksi ke LN down mbah. Tapi siang ini sudah OK lagi. - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:54 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tanda alam: Koneksi Telkom ke LN down ? Tanda alam: Koneksi Telkom ke LN down ? Pagi ini koneksi internet punya Telkom ke Luar Negri putus disaat INDEX REGIONAL jeblok Another MANUVER KAMPUNGAN ? Ada yg mengalami ? + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IF I MAY...
Dear Mr FS, How do you think about BRPT ? someone here said, it has target 3000, 4000, 5000 ,6000 . Is it valid or just bullshit ? - Original Message - From: Frederick Schubert To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IF I MAY... Dear Pak Hendra, Thanks for such a wonderful view... Things to watch are exactly what you have said... funds that are in our market now are coming for few sources only... and as liquidity is less than ample, we have to be still on alert mode... That's why I mentioned about behavioral investment... But, I must say again that what happened now should be not much worrying long and mid term lovers... For CPO lovers, more IPOs are coming from cpo producers...some are worth notifying some dont... For UNSP, I believe that a series of corporate actions are on the table. It may vary from being acquired by or acquiring stake in other companies. Land acquisitions may be regular story so as the acquisitions but efficiency and debt management are badly needed by UNSP. I still have high target share price for UNSP... a onethird of LSIP in the mid term o long run would not be just a dream... for all, thanks for sharing... safe trade always, fs -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] FREN vs MNCN
Tenang aja... Mas Harry klo lagi naikin sahamnya bener2 hebat... liat aja kinerja BHIT BMTR 2006-pertengahan 2007... 10X lipat lebih... wajar klo skrg Mas Harry leyeh2 dulu 2008/2/29, Lina G [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Belum disentuh ama bandar :D 2008/2/29 riomudjid [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ini saham satu geng sama MNCN ya?? kok gerakkan sama ya, turun melulu, khan industrinya ok... udah growth business 65%, tetep aja nukik.. Om HT, tolong donkk -- http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
sori kepencet.. India -3% barusan Lihat senin lah.. Regards, DE On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yah India -547, On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Heryadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bagaimana nich menurut boss JA DE - Original Message - *From:* Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, February 29, 2008 2:19 PM *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... *Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL *
Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO : LABA CUMAN 10 TRriliun
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
AGREE. Absolutey, I'm with you. Ini komentar paling LOGIS dan sama sekali tidak kasar. 2008/2/29 Andrew wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Emang Bursa itu tempat ramal-meramal atau tebak menebak. Tiada yang kebetulan dibursa itu, semua berdasarkan hasil kerja keras dan penelitian. Seandainya saja bursa seperti maunya Mrs. EL maka ybs sudah pasti akan menyaingi Om Buffet dan ybs. juga ngapain lagi becanda di milis ini. YBS hanya orang KESURUPAN yg maniak dan GEMAR OMONG KOSONG SAJA, ANGGAP SAJA YBS TIDAK LEBIH DARI BANNER IKLAN... Salam Andrew 2008/2/29, hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Beruangnya uda kelatan mba EL, btw, welcome back...
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
*Just watch.. The EARTH shatters.. lol Mr Budi Zhu, please repost what I said to you yesterday... EL* On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Forever Apprentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi EL, welcome back... nice to hear from you again. You have proved yourself the last time so I will stick to your words. Just hope you are kindly enough not to code your message this time. Keep it straight so we are all clear. This time, you have your credibility on the line vs Mr. FS. Will you be right again this time? Only time will tell. - Original Message From: Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:19:16 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... *Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL * -- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS vs ANTM
Setuju Kang..TINS mulai bangun kapal keruk untuk tambang timah di laut kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kasih perbandingan amunisinye aje yehh, TINS Cadangan terukur dan tereka (2006) 355870 Ton Produksi Timah tahunan untuk di darat di level 41-45000an Ton, dan di laut 1-11000 Ton. kasar output level timah tahunan itu 55000Ton- an. nah bagi deh itu cadangan ke tingkat output jadinya buat berapa taun ;P... kalo untuk 2007 55000ton ya cadangan paling skrg 30 Ton. komposisi sisa cadangan ini skrg banyakan di laut drpd di darat, kemungkinan dengan produksi di level stabil yg di darat cuman cukup untuk 2-3 tahun lagi dan mulai harus lebih banyak effort ke laut (biaya tunai akan lebih besar). Agenda Timah punya KP Batubara 9721 hEKTAR DI bANJAR, SAMA aSPAL di buton. tp tidak (Belum) ada keterangan mengenai prospek produksi dan cadangan yg bisa ditambang scr ekonomis dr ke2 KP ini. ANTM cadangan terbukti dan terkira en tingkat outputnya (2006) Nikel Saprolit cadangan 63900, tingkat output 3500 Nikel Limonit cadangan 51450, Tingkat Output 1500 Emas cadangan 2882, tingkat output 400 bauksitcadangan 84400, tingkat output 1500 agenda ANTM(meski mungkin eksekusinya bakal pada molor ;P kekekeke) Tayan Chemical Grade Alumina (ANTM 49%) Target 2010 oUTPUT 300.000 TON PER TAHUN pendanaan kmungkinan full dr debt Bintan Smelter Grade Alumina (ANTM 51%) Target Operasi 2010 400.000 Ton per tahun pendanaan 65% debt, 35% internal resource kerjasama dgn cina Obi Iron Cap (Antam 51%) Target Operasi 2010 65% debt, 35% internal resource. kerjasama dgn TransAsia (Russia) Feni IV (Antam 70%) Target operasi 2012 5 ton feronikel 70% Debt, 30% Internal Resources Kerjasama dengan BHP Billiton Nikel Hydromet (Antam 30%) Target BFS 2010 (BARU TARGET BFS DOANK, PRODUKSI KAPAN TAU...) produksi nikel (plus cobalt) 5 ton kerjasama dengan BHP Billiton. kalo ada yg kurang lengkap dan punya tambahan info buat TINS en ANTM silahkan bantu melengkapi... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friends (mungkin kang ocoy), Ada yang bisa kasih perbandingan fundamental gak antara TINS dan ANTM? Karena dgn growth yang hamper sama, tapi pewrforma sahamnya beda jauh nih Tks A3K From: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tin berland Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [saham] Strong Buy TINS : SN 3M 17900 18000 naik +$ 179.75 Harga timah sudah mendekati $ 18.000/ mt, tahun ini PT Timah bakal mendapat durian runtuh semakin besar, net profit bisa mencapai lebih dari Rp 2.2 T belum termasuk batu bara. EPS bisa mencapai Rp 4.400/ saham. LT harga TINS bisa mencapai Rp 41.000,- Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Tanda alam: Koneksi Telkom ke LN down ?
Mbah mau buka website apa Mbah, saya bantuin liatin deh :-) jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SPEEDY embah sampe jam 15:00 WIB saat ini belum bisa access WEBSITE luar negri. Kalo yg lokal sih normal... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Gambler Bej [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sudah sejak semalam koneksi ke LN down mbah. Tapi siang ini sudah OK lagi. - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:54 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tanda alam: Koneksi Telkom ke LN down ? Tanda alam: Koneksi Telkom ke LN down ? Pagi ini koneksi internet punya Telkom ke Luar Negri putus disaat INDEX REGIONAL jeblok Another MANUVER KAMPUNGAN ? Ada yg mengalami ? + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
walah. ngga Pak VVV. saya ngga mengaharapkan itu. eh saya ngga ada kepentingan apa apa dengan MNCN. kan saya sudah tulis kemaren. saya ini bau kencur banget di bursa. saya hanya takjub kalo ternyata kepastian itu ada lho di BEI. itu saja ;-) VIVID VIDI VICI [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Pak Cat bener2 serius ngarepin MNCN gocap nihhh? :D klo emang jadi gocap saya juga ikut nampung dong... Pada tanggal 29/02/08, Cleopatras Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: hehe kemaren ada kata kata bijaksana dari sesepuh OB di postingan. bunyinya: selamat bersabar. barusan si Mbah juga nulis ya sabar sabar wae. ya saya akan sabar aja nunggu sambil ngutak ngatik itungan saya kemaren siang ini. kapan tepatnya MNCN nemenin POLY di pelaminan gocap. buat MNCN Fans Club my deepest sympathy. repot juga ya. mesti sediain ember berapa banyak tuh buat AD in. eh tadi pagi broker saya bujukin saya buat beli obat. katanya mumpung obat lg murah banget. padahal saya sehat sehat aja lho. ya sudah terbujuk jg saya icip icip sedikit obatnya. kalo toko obatnya keliatan mo jalan mungkin saya mau AU in. budi zhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: See, EL? Just like usually... :p Btw, saya tetap salut sama Anda. Udah sering dicemooh, masih tetap posting memberikan peringatan kepada para member OB. Pak CC, kita nonton aja nih? Atau nanti kumpulan barang-barang sisa rampasan perang? Best Regards, budi - E-Mails jetzt auf Ihrem Handy.. -- http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com - Beginnen Sie den Tag mit den neuesten Nachrichten. Machen Sie Yahoo! zu Ihrer Startseite!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO : LABA CUMAN 10 TRriliun
Without any corporate action or expansion INCO will be disposed.. Effect of lower nickel price was seen at Q4 2007 and continue in 2008. I agree with you that if nickel price stays below 30/lbs then net profit next year will significantly affected. On 2/29/08, Andrew wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jADI JELEK Coba itung kemampuan laba hanya pada 4Q'2007, bila diasumsikan ke 1Q'2008 laba bersih estimasi 2008 cuma tinggal 420 juta USD. EPS tahunan 2008 tidak lebih dari Rp 450. PE itung sendiri... Kalo saham naik atau tidak no comment 2008/2/29, hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED]: liat di e-bursa (1,1...miliar dollar)
[obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS nyundul
salut deh buat tins !! apa krn ada yg udah dapet bocoran lapkeu ? kalau lapkeu 2007 udah keluar baru bisa dihitung apa tins bisa ke 40 ribu, 50 ribu atau cuma 35 ribu. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TINS break all new HIGH ! ngikut apa enggak ya.. 32Knya tebel banget.. paling2 turun maning.. kalau break 32050 apakah kira bisa pake buy high sell higher ? soalnya Jumat bow,,
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
Kejadian juga gak papa... saya gak punya MNCN soalnya... kekekke. asik juga ya orang2 lg bahas Elaine vs FS kita malah bahas MNCN gocap... hehhe Pada tanggal 29/02/08, Cleopatras Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: walah. ngga Pak VVV. saya ngga mengaharapkan itu. eh saya ngga ada kepentingan apa apa dengan MNCN. kan saya sudah tulis kemaren. saya ini bau kencur banget di bursa. saya hanya takjub kalo ternyata kepastian itu ada lho di BEI. itu saja ;-) *VIVID VIDI VICI [EMAIL PROTECTED]* schrieb: Pak Cat bener2 serius ngarepin MNCN gocap nihhh? :D klo emang jadi gocap saya juga ikut nampung dong... Pada tanggal 29/02/08, Cleopatras Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: hehe kemaren ada kata kata bijaksana dari sesepuh OB di postingan. bunyinya: selamat bersabar. barusan si Mbah juga nulis ya sabar sabar wae. ya saya akan sabar aja nunggu sambil ngutak ngatik itungan saya kemaren siang ini. kapan tepatnya MNCN nemenin POLY di pelaminan gocap. buat MNCN Fans Club my deepest sympathy. repot juga ya. mesti sediain ember berapa banyak tuh buat AD in. eh tadi pagi broker saya bujukin saya buat beli obat. katanya mumpung obat lg murah banget. padahal saya sehat sehat aja lho. ya sudah terbujuk jg saya icip icip sedikit obatnya. kalo toko obatnya keliatan mo jalan mungkin saya mau AU in. *budi zhu [EMAIL PROTECTED]* schrieb: See, EL? Just like usually... :p Btw, saya tetap salut sama Anda. Udah sering dicemooh, masih tetap posting memberikan peringatan kepada para member OB. Pak CC, kita nonton aja nih? Atau nanti kumpulan barang-barang sisa rampasan perang? Best Regards, budi -- *E-Mails jetzt auf Ihrem Handy.*http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51524/*http://de.mobile.yahoo.com/interstitial?refer=e00127. -- http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com -- Beginnen Sie den Tag mit den neuesten Nachrichten. Machen Sie Yahoo! zu Ihrer Startseite!http://de.rd.yahoo.com/evt=41213/*http://de.yahoo.com/set -- http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Aliens versus Predator
Walah, ada tontonan seru ya? Terlambat deh :) Masuk2 bioskop sudah penuh. Ikut nonton ah, dibaris paling belakang.. Sedih ya Pak CC? Who ever wins, we lose. Kalau begitu demi perdamaian, Saya pilih dua-duanya menang deh... Untuk dimensi waktu yang berbeda, Untuk dimensi skala yang berbeda, Untuk dimensi kekuatan yang berbeda. Yang satu jangka (sangat?) pendek, yang satu jangka menengah mungkin panjang. Yang satu minor, yang satu major. Yang satu pakai otot, yang satu pakai otak. Bagaimanapun, beban membuat bull jauh lebih berat daripada beban membuat bear. EL mewakili kekuatan besar di bursa, jangan di-maki2 terus :) Ibaratnya beruang marah, biarkan saja ngamuk dulu sampai puas. Kalaupun mau diajak bicara, bicaralah baik2, kalau tidak mau digampar. Tapi kalau saya sih, takut bicara. Digampar beruang, lumayan lho... he..he..he.. Lebih enak diskusi gaya FS daripada jotos2an. Salam damai untuk semua. Happy safe trading. - Original Message - From: Cleopatras Cat To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Aliens versus Predator ini kalo di Cinema namanya Aliens versus Predator who ever wins this battle, we lose ... .
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
I had reminded you on bull trap possibility http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/61790 budi zhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From EL: Day 1 A minor correction is coming someday in this week or two. Unpleasant surprise in the energy sector. Send my regards to OB family.. *wink* EL Day 2 This minor correction is QUITE PAINFUL for short term trader, especially newbies. Please tell them to be really careful and prepare some cash in hand. EL Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
He he Kalo EL udah muncul setelah itu biasanya bursa segera uptrending JUST WATCH! He he Thanks EL MacD Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Aliens versus Predator
Dear Pak Bill Ibaratnya beruang marah, biarkan saja ngamuk dulu sampai puas. Kalaupun mau diajak bicara, bicaralah baik2, kalau tidak mau digampar. Hehehe, betul tuh, Pak. Kalo pake EGO dalam permainan ini, gak akan pernah bisa happy ending. Tapi kalau saya sih, takut bicara. Digampar beruang, lumayan lho... he..he..he.. Pernah digampar beruang yah, Pak, waktu bulan Desember? Best Regards, budi
[obrolan-bandar] Stock Picking 3/3/2008
Absolutely ANTM and INCO, NIkel nanja terus, udah tembus 31ribu tuh, mungkin malam ini tembus 32/33 ribu USD/MT Emas juga sekarang 970 $/Troy ounce Ada yang tau harga CPO dan Coal saat ini??
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
dibayar berapa ama elaine? - Original Message From: budi zhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:54:03 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... From EL: Day 1 A minor correction is coming someday in this week or two. Unpleasant surprise in the energy sector. Send my regards to OB family.. *wink* EL Day 2 This minor correction is QUITE PAINFUL for short term trader, especially newbies. Please tell them to be really careful and prepare some cash in hand. EL Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TINS nyundul
rumornya unaudited yoy laba bersihnya katanya naik 8x (800%). itu rumor apa udah pada tahu sih ? ada yg punya infonya ? 2008/2/29 Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED]: salut deh buat tins !! apa krn ada yg udah dapet bocoran lapkeu ? kalau lapkeu 2007 udah keluar baru bisa dihitung apa tins bisa ke 40 ribu, 50 ribu atau cuma 35 ribu. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TINS break all new HIGH ! ngikut apa enggak ya.. 32Knya tebel banget.. paling2 turun maning.. kalau break 32050 apakah kira bisa pake buy high sell higher ? soalnya Jumat bow,,
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
Calling Mr. Zhu... waktu dan tempatnya kami persilahken... :D - Original Message From: Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:43:14 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... Just watch.. The EARTH shatters .. lol Mr Budi Zhu, please repost what I said to you yesterday... EL On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Forever Apprentice apprentice.forever@ yahoo.com wrote: Hi EL, welcome back... nice to hear from you again. You have proved yourself the last time so I will stick to your words. Just hope you are kindly enough not to code your message this time. Keep it straight so we are all clear. This time, you have your credibility on the line vs Mr. FS. Will you be right again this time? Only time will tell. - Original Message From: Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:19:16 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
Mrs. Elaine and Herr Schubert, both of you are correct. In short term there will be correction for market but in the long term there will be bullish for energy sector. This morning I watched CNBC Europe and this porgram said that money in US will be invested more in the energy and comodity market instead of bonds and shares. After being tumbled by big FM, the money will flow again. The question, how deep the is the bearish territory for energy-sector-shares at BEI. Let's take BUMI as our example: will BUMI touch 6000 and the step up again? Or will be just at 7000? No one knows it. Just in my humble opinion Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just watch.. The EARTH shatters.. lol Mr Budi Zhu, please repost what I said to you yesterday... EL On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Forever Apprentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi EL, welcome back... nice to hear from you again. You have proved yourself the last time so I will stick to your words. Just hope you are kindly enough not to code your message this time. Keep it straight so we are all clear. This time, you have your credibility on the line vs Mr. FS. Will you be right again this time? Only time will tell. - Original Message From: Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:19:16 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
*From EL*: *Day 1* *A minor correction is coming someday in this week or two. Unpleasant surprise in the energy sector.* Send my regards to OB family.. *wink* EL *Day 2* *This minor correction is QUITE PAINFUL for short term trader, especially newbies. Please tell them to be really careful and prepare some cash in hand.* EL
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Aliens versus Predator
Ikutan ah...jusk joke...dari web-nya mbah sudes...(kog ga pernah
posting lagi ya) ^^
Pria Vs Cowok
Tidak semua pria dewasa menjadi 'pria', ada juga yang masih begitu
kekanakan setelah umurnya mencapai 40.
Tenng, jangan keburu marah dulu dengan kenyataan ini, mungkin
memang sebagian orang dilahirkan untuk jadi 'pria', tapi memang ada
juga yang cukup menjadi 'cowok' saja.
Sekali lagi, jangan kawatir, terima saja diri Anda sebagai pria (P)
atau sebagai cowok (C), toh semua punya nilai lebih dan kurang tersendiri.
Dan yang tak kalah penting, percayalah kadang wanita tidak peduli.
Inilah perbedaan mendasar antara seorang PRIA dan COWOK
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P : Tahu jelas lima tahun lagi ia mau jadi apa
C : Tidak jelas lima menit lagi ia mau berbuat apa
___
P : Jago membuat wanita merasa tenang
C : Jago membuat cewek merasa senang
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P : Bacaannya Jhon Grisham, mainannya golf, tontonannya CNN
C : Bacaannya Harry Potter, mainannya bilyar, tontonannya MTV
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P : Sebelum umur 30 sudah banyak uang
C : Sebelum umur 30 sudah banyak dosa
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P : Seimbang antara penghasilan dan pemasukan
C : Seimbang antara hutang dan pembayaran minimum
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P : Mendukung emansipasi wanita, tapi tetap membayari bon makan wanita
C : Mendukung emansipasi wanita dengan membiarkan wanita bayar sendiri
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P : Punya akuntan, penjahit dan dokter langganan
C : Punya salon, kafe dan bengkel langganan
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P : Meminta Anda nimbrung ngobrol kalau mamanya menelepon
C : Pura-pura Anda tidak bersamanya jika mamanya menelepon
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P : Putus dengan pasangannya sambil berjabatan tangan dan mengakui
sulitnya menjembatani perbedaan antar mereka berdua, diiringi ucapan,
Kita tetap bisa berteman selamanya.
C : Putus dengan pasangannya sambil kabur dari rumah, merokok
berbatang-batang, plus ucapan, Jangan undang aku ke pernikahanmu nanti!
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P : Mencintai wanita 10 % pada pertemuan awal dan meningkat terus
C : Mencintai wanita 100 % pada pertemuan awal dan menurun terus
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P : Berpikir dewasa seperti orang usia 40 tahun saat berusia 17 tahun
C : Berpikir kekanakan seperti orang usia 17 tahun saat berusia 40 tahun
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P : Bisa menang hanya dengan otak dalam konflik
C : Cuma bisa ngamuk, adu mulut, n adu otot kalo konflik
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P : Mikirnya Aku masih kurang pengetahuan, harus belajar lebh banyak
C : Mikirnya Aku yang terhebat di muka bumi, siapapun aku hadapin!!!
___
P : Otak no 1, digabungin otot kalo kepaksa
C : Otot no 1, ditambah otak kalo punya
September 18, 2007 in Jokes | Permalink
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Best Regards.
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Walah, ada tontonan seru ya? Terlambat deh :)
Masuk2 bioskop sudah penuh.
Ikut nonton ah, dibaris paling belakang..
Sedih ya Pak CC?
Who ever wins, we lose.
Kalau begitu demi perdamaian,
Saya pilih dua-duanya menang deh...
Untuk dimensi waktu yang berbeda,
Untuk dimensi skala yang berbeda,
Untuk dimensi kekuatan yang berbeda.
Yang satu jangka (sangat?) pendek, yang satu jangka menengah mungkin
panjang.
Yang satu minor, yang satu major.
Yang satu pakai otot, yang satu pakai otak.
Bagaimanapun, beban membuat bull jauh lebih berat daripada beban
membuat bear.
EL mewakili kekuatan besar di bursa, jangan di-maki2 terus :)
Ibaratnya beruang marah, biarkan saja ngamuk dulu sampai puas.
Kalaupun mau diajak bicara, bicaralah baik2, kalau tidak mau digampar.
Tapi kalau saya sih, takut bicara. Digampar beruang, lumayan lho...
he..he..he..
Lebih enak diskusi gaya FS daripada jotos2an.
Salam damai untuk semua.
Happy safe trading.
- Original Message -
From: Cleopatras Cat
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:41 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Aliens versus Predator
ini kalo di Cinema namanya Aliens versus Predator
who ever wins this battle, we lose ...
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
nah day 1 day 2 itu kapan ?? mudah2 an day 2 hari ini . spy minggu depan dapur kita ngebull. - Original Message - From: budi zhu To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... From EL: Day 1 A minor correction is coming someday in this week or two. Unpleasant surprise in the energy sector. Send my regards to OB family.. *wink* EL Day 2 This minor correction is QUITE PAINFUL for short term trader, especially newbies. Please tell them to be really careful and prepare some cash in hand. EL
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
Dear Pak Farhan, Ngakak saya baca postingan bpk. Wong itu email yg dikirim oleh EL ke saya kok. Saya tanya ke EL, boleh diterusin ke OB gak? EL jawab, silahkan. Kmrn2 saya udah posting di OB kok. Kl ada bahaya, wong teman ditolong toh pak. Best Regards, budi On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 4:04 PM, farhan zailani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dibayar berapa ama elaine?
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
Weeiii..., kemana aja EL?? giliran LAGI merah baru nongolsebelum- sebelumnya dong.., ente emang paling bisa nih.. Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. hi.hi.hi, lagu lu EL, emang paling enak ngomong kalo udh kejadian.., liat dow semalem?, regional?, rupiah menguat?, dan ini kan akhir bulan?.. ya wajar aja kalo ini hari turun.., hi.hi.hi.., aya-aya wae... All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... ya..ya..ya, pastinya adalah...cuma KAPAN ngga tau kan??? ...sama lah kalo gitu analisanya sama gua... sama-sama pake ilmu kira-kira... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. kalo mau kasih tau sesuatu kenapa mesti tipip pesen segala sih...tinggal klik aja langsung nyampe ke OB... bisa aja ente kalo ngeles.. he..he To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) Ayo EL, kasih analisa tandingan dong..., jangan cuma challange2 aja.. apa dasarnya? ayo EL I know you can do it.., masa kalah sama Mr.FS EL..., malu dong ahh. EL *
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
iya bener ... kayak waktu itu, dari november 2007 udah teriak-teriak mau ada nuklir eh market malah NAIK dulu. 3 bulan kemudian baru kejadian koreksi gede. cmiiw, salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, macd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He he Kalo EL udah muncul setelah itu biasanya bursa segera uptrending JUST WATCH! He he Thanks EL MacD
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
Yoi.. dan gw juga inget dia ngomong tapi meleset jauh..trus ngeles..., dan inget wkt itu index crash karena memang seluruh dunia begitu.., jadi ngga ada nuklir2an lah..., bisa aja tuh si EL... hi..hi Masalah bakal ada koreksi dalem lagi...pastinya adalah.., itu saya percaya.. tapi kapan?? mana ada yang tau.. Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iya bener ... kayak waktu itu, dari november 2007 udah teriak-teriak mau ada nuklir eh market malah NAIK dulu. 3 bulan kemudian baru kejadian koreksi gede. cmiiw, salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, macd macdgo@ wrote: He he Kalo EL udah muncul setelah itu biasanya bursa segera uptrending JUST WATCH! He he Thanks EL MacD
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Aliens versus Predator plus
Pak B, ho oh. sedih. tapi saya langsung ingat Pak SB dengan AD nya. ya ngredit AD lha. kecil kecilan dulu. wong belum tau yang lebih dominant mana. saya flexibel aja. kalo ternyata Predator yang di atas angin ya saya AU in. kita ikutin ombak aja. mo lawan ombak? wah saya mah nyerah deh. wong saya ga bisa berenang hehehe ini sekalian buat sesama member Teletubbies di OB ini. ada Info dikit siapa tau ada yang beum tau dan minat belajar sedikit demi sedikit. ada link yang mungkin bisa berguna. www.vierjamal.blogspot.com saya ga ada kepentingan apa apa dengan Bung Vier. saya hanya membagi Referenz kepada sesama anggota Teletubbies saja. para pakar tentu sudah ngelotok ilmu nya secara FA / TA / BA / BMG. doski membahas TA. mungkin bisa membantu Anda Anda sesama Teletubbies dalam mencapai tujuan hakiki saya [dan mungkin juga Anda] yaitu DUIT. happy cuan yang banyak! Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Walah, ada tontonan seru ya? Terlambat deh :) Masuk2 bioskop sudah penuh. Ikut nonton ah, dibaris paling belakang.. Sedih ya Pak CC? Who ever wins, we lose. Kalau begitu demi perdamaian, Saya pilih dua-duanya menang deh... Untuk dimensi waktu yang berbeda, Untuk dimensi skala yang berbeda, Untuk dimensi kekuatan yang berbeda. Yang satu jangka (sangat?) pendek, yang satu jangka menengah mungkin panjang. Yang satu minor, yang satu major. Yang satu pakai otot, yang satu pakai otak. Bagaimanapun, beban membuat bull jauh lebih berat daripada beban membuat bear. EL mewakili kekuatan besar di bursa, jangan di-maki2 terus :) Ibaratnya beruang marah, biarkan saja ngamuk dulu sampai puas. Kalaupun mau diajak bicara, bicaralah baik2, kalau tidak mau digampar. Tapi kalau saya sih, takut bicara. Digampar beruang, lumayan lho... he..he..he.. Lebih enak diskusi gaya FS daripada jotos2an. Salam damai untuk semua. Happy safe trading. - Original Message - From:Cleopatras Cat To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:41PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Aliens versusPredator ini kalo di Cinema namanya Aliens versus Predator who ever winsthis battle, we lose ... . - Beginnen Sie den Tag mit den neuesten Nachrichten. Machen Sie Yahoo! zu Ihrer Startseite!
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
elaine, whuaa.nice posting...provoking and intriguing... but, before making any statement please take a look at and have a good, careful reading and understanding to my previous posting... I know it was a broken english...but please read it once more time...if u have time.. As I said am not challenging anyone here...whom I know are masters in equity investment... But, sorry... I think you are too good to be true... So, i would say You win...happy..? Agh it's always hard to find friends...hard to say am just a small one; not that high or even better than others... hehe best, fs - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Aliens versus Predator
A creative idea hehe aliens vs predator :p Unless that we just watch them battling each other, just like in the cinema. There we win hehehe :-) just like Pak DE. To Elaine, would you please be kindly enough to share your guiding star? In my opinion it might be just some correction after touching the resistance yesterday. But careful must be taken since treasury just changes its way. _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cleopatras Cat Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:41 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Aliens versus Predator ini kalo di Cinema namanya Aliens versus Predator who ever wins this battle, we lose ... abdulrahim abdulrahim [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I don't kow well FS. Namun sepertinya tantangan Elaine bakal seru neh. Saya nonton deh... On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:orkaybgt%40gmail.com com wrote: Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL ### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.f-secure.com/
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
Bahana en ML sell off was CITIGROUP's!!... ;P --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mrs. Elaine and Herr Schubert, both of you are correct. In short term there will be correction for market but in the long term there will be bullish for energy sector. This morning I watched CNBC Europe and this porgram said that money in US will be invested more in the energy and comodity market instead of bonds and shares. After being tumbled by big FM, the money will flow again. The question, how deep the is the bearish territory for energy-sector-shares at BEI. Let's take BUMI as our example: will BUMI touch 6000 and the step up again? Or will be just at 7000? No one knows it. Just in my humble opinion Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just watch.. The EARTH shatters.. lol Mr Budi Zhu, please repost what I said to you yesterday... EL On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Forever Apprentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi EL, welcome back... nice to hear from you again. You have proved yourself the last time so I will stick to your words. Just hope you are kindly enough not to code your message this time. Keep it straight so we are all clear. This time, you have your credibility on the line vs Mr. FS. Will you be right again this time? Only time will tell. - Original Message From: Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:19:16 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
Saya kurang setuju, - Perusahaan yang bagus punya komitmen tinggi untuk meningkatkan value termasuk pemenuhan kepatuhan ketentuan BEJ - - Original Message From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:45:23 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report Re: Cash 200% --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bgmn James? Any hint for us? MARKET SENTIMENT akan ditimbulkan dengan dipublishnya lap Keuangan tahunan... Hari ini laporan tahunan beberapa emiten sudah bisa dilihat diweb BEI... Biasanya secara DISENGAJA atau TIDAK, laporan keuangan yang bagus akan dipublish DULUAN seperti group Astra... Jadi SENTIMEN positif akan dihembuskan kebursa duluan pake metoda FGLB (First Good Last Bad) supaya index positif dan PT bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA... At the END, Laporan keuangan yg jelek dan bermasalah keluar belakangan untuk bikin SENTIMEN negatif supaya index negatif dan Buy Back bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA pada BC yg bagus.. Buat yg engga percaya, coba perhatikan POLA yg diceritakan embah dalam sebulan INI... Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG petter_pinulung@ ... Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:46:48 To:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200% Pawang beruang, si Mbah dan mr. James Arifin belum kasih wangsit incoming tuh hehehehhee….  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:56 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200%  Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan... tapi saya nambah reserve cash di porto trading (gak penting ya... hehe..). Seriously, saya males makan bangke.. Regards, DE PUMP and DUMP: STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROCEDURE I borrow lots of stock from long term investors, let's say 10 million shares, with other asset as I Buy 200 from market, price goes up Retail buy 100, prices goes up even more I sell 250, price weakens Retail think it's cheap, wait.. I buy 200, price backs up Retail Buy more 150, yes this is a rally I sell 250, and so on... ... .. [prices keep higher everyday while I dump] .. .. Now I'm empty, so I stop trading Retail stucks, wondering why the price stops, then start profit taking. Price falls. Panic selling, price falls even more. I wait to pick at bottom, then return them to the original owner. We share profit. ::BCA:: Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[obrolan-bandar] Dilevel IHSG berapa kita COME BACK ?
Daripada ngomongin FS vs EL, Predator vs Aliens, Bull vs Bear dll, GIMANA KALO kita ngomongin yg lebih produktif misalnya: - Dilevel IHSG berapa kita COME BACK ?.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
Wah mungkin juga... naik dulu sampe Juni... 3200 baru bom lagi ke bawah bisa jadi... terus naik 3400 sampai akhir taun... Waktu itu siapa ya yg prediksi bakal bisa turun di bulan Juli Lupa ni Embah bukan ya? - Original Message From: boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:13:58 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by... iya bener ... kayak waktu itu, dari november 2007 udah teriak-teriak mau ada nuklir eh market malah NAIK dulu. 3 bulan kemudian baru kejadian koreksi gede. cmiiw, salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, macd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He he Kalo EL udah muncul setelah itu biasanya bursa segera uptrending JUST WATCH! He he Thanks EL MacD Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
pusing ah... Daripada pusing besok senen jeblok ato ga... pegang aja saham2 yg sudah terbukti bagus. mau jatuh pun reboundnya mantep daripada bingung ntar udah jual malah naik sakit ati... kalo jatoh ya tinggal tambahin ntar di bawah... Wah3... jadi ngikutin Average down ini mah :) yah kan buat ngurangin exposure risk kan... daripada abis cut loss terus naik... jleb banget rasanya... kecuali 100% yakin besoknya masih turun baru cut loss... Tapi sapa yg bisa jamin si... wong marketnya lagi mabok ga jelas gini :) kalo ga yakin (di bawah 70%) mah AVG down aja... - Original Message From: Frendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:36:47 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... nah day 1 day 2 itu kapan ?? mudah2 an day 2 hari ini . spy minggu depan dapur kita ngebull... .. - Original Message - From: budi zhu To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... From EL: Day 1 A minor correction is coming someday in this week or two. Unpleasant surprise in the energy sector. Send my regards to OB family.. *wink* EL Day 2 This minor correction is QUITE PAINFUL for short term trader, especially newbies. Please tell them to be really careful and prepare some cash in hand. EL Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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Dear EL, From your message through Mr. Zhu, you mentioned that there is a minor correction only and unpleasant surprise for the energy sector. However, from the below message you said that there are more deadly waves coming and TOTALLY CRAZY. For me, the messages are very confusing and contrary each other. I would very appreciate if you can clarify them (the messages) so all the OB members can find out exactly your messages. Keep posting EL. And also please have my gratitude for you Mr. FS. Regards, Tjen Hartono Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
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hari ini kegerus 10 lg. ok fein deh. sebagian besar turun. tapi kalo yang ini mah ga peduli mo nge bull apa nge bear. pratiin aja Ibu / Pak VVV. mo gonjang ganjing Linktone kek ga peduli. ya itu tadi saya jadi curigation apa TP nya emang gocap yah. jujur aja. tadi nya horny jg liat kegerus mulu. pasti bisa membal. lha kalo dah mampir di Fibo Zero tuh gimana ya ilmu nya terusannya? kasian aja ama yang banyak pegang ini barang. bukannya Pak HL di OB Fans nya MNCN. gimana Pak HL? worth it ga buat masuk? kalo iya entry point nya berapa ya? apa nunggu TP gocap dulu? ;-) VIVID VIDI VICI [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Kejadian juga gak papa... saya gak punya MNCN soalnya... kekekke. asik juga ya orang2 lg bahas Elaine vs FS kita malah bahas MNCN gocap... hehhe Pada tanggal 29/02/08, Cleopatras Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: walah. ngga Pak VVV. saya ngga mengaharapkan itu. eh saya ngga ada kepentingan apa apa dengan MNCN. kan saya sudah tulis kemaren. saya ini bau kencur banget di bursa. saya hanya takjub kalo ternyata kepastian itu ada lho di BEI. itu saja ;-) VIVID VIDI VICI [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Pak Cat bener2 serius ngarepin MNCN gocap nihhh? :D klo emang jadi gocap saya juga ikut nampung dong... Pada tanggal 29/02/08, Cleopatras Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: hehe kemaren ada kata kata bijaksana dari sesepuh OB di postingan. bunyinya: selamat bersabar. barusan si Mbah juga nulis ya sabar sabar wae. ya saya akan sabar aja nunggu sambil ngutak ngatik itungan saya kemaren siang ini. kapan tepatnya MNCN nemenin POLY di pelaminan gocap. buat MNCN Fans Club my deepest sympathy. repot juga ya. mesti sediain ember berapa banyak tuh buat AD in. eh tadi pagi broker saya bujukin saya buat beli obat. katanya mumpung obat lg murah banget. padahal saya sehat sehat aja lho. ya sudah terbujuk jg saya icip icip sedikit obatnya. kalo toko obatnya keliatan mo jalan mungkin saya mau AU in. budi zhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:See, EL? Just like usually... :p Btw, saya tetap salut sama Anda. Udah sering dicemooh, masih tetap posting memberikan peringatan kepada para member OB. Pak CC, kita nonton aja nih? Atau nanti kumpulan barang-barang sisa rampasan perang? Best Regards, budi - E-Mails jetzt auf Ihrem Handy.. -- http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com - Beginnen Sie den Tag mit den neuesten Nachrichten. Machen Sie Yahoo! zu Ihrer Startseite! -- http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com - Heute schon einen Blick in die Zukunft von E-Mails wagen? Versuchen Sie´s mit dem neuen Yahoo! Mail.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Stock Picking 3/3/2008
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely ANTM and INCO, NIkel nanja terus, udah tembus 31ribu tuh, mungkin malam ini tembus 32/33 ribu USD/MT Emas juga sekarang 970 $/Troy ounce Ada yang tau harga CPO dan Coal saat ini?? Pak Hendrik, mo tanya kalau lihat harga metal yang real time di situs apa ya? tx
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
tul, udahlah EL, don't make yourself as a joke any further. we don't hate you, if you want to share informations or thoughts, analysis, we are pleased and happy. but, again, please adapted. salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yoi.. dan gw juga inget dia ngomong tapi meleset jauh..trus ngeles..., dan inget wkt itu index crash karena memang seluruh dunia begitu.., jadi ngga ada nuklir2an lah..., bisa aja tuh si EL... hi..hi Masalah bakal ada koreksi dalem lagi...pastinya adalah.., itu saya percaya.. tapi kapan?? mana ada yang tau.. Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz m4573rs@ wrote: iya bener ... kayak waktu itu, dari november 2007 udah teriak-teriak mau ada nuklir eh market malah NAIK dulu. 3 bulan kemudian baru kejadian koreksi gede. cmiiw, salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, macd macdgo@ wrote: He he Kalo EL udah muncul setelah itu biasanya bursa segera uptrending JUST WATCH! He he Thanks EL MacD
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He.he.he.., maksut loh..? Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from XL GPRS network -Original Message- From: farhan zailani [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:00:03 To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by... ini baru pasangan yang passs...banget - Original Message From: Andrew wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:43:29 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by... Emang Bursa itu tempat ramal-meramal atau tebak menebak. Tiada yang kebetulan dibursa itu, semua berdasarkan hasil kerja keras dan penelitian. Seandainya saja bursa seperti maunya Mrs. EL maka ybs sudah pasti akan menyaingi Om Buffet dan ybs. juga ngapain lagi becanda di milis ini. YBS hanya orang KESURUPAN yg maniak dan GEMAR OMONG KOSONG SAJA, ANGGAP SAJA YBS TIDAK LEBIH DARI BANNER IKLAN... Salam Andrew 2008/2/29, hendrik_lwww hendrik_lwww@ yahoo.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Beruangnya uda kelatan mba EL, btw, welcome back... Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: justru NAIK Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dewa oh Dewa
Ha.ha.ha. Pak SB bisa aja.., itu sebenernya nyindir Pak SB... He.he.. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from XL GPRS network -Original Message- From: SbudianaY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:45:33 To:Obrolan Bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: justru NAIK Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dewa oh Dewa Wah JSX uda siap2 mo buka Kursus jg yah, uda mo ngumpulin anggota hehehe? Sukses dah SB Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from XL GPRS network -Original Message- From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:56:21 To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: justru NAIK Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dewa oh Dewa Ya ibu…, dibahas.., itu canda bu.., sekalian “nyindir” supaya temen2 mau belajar TA… he..he.. From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lina G Sent: 28 Februari 2008 9:21 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: justru NAIK Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dewa oh Dewa Kalo saya sih gak merasa punya saingan..wong pemain kecil, siapa sih saya bs bersaing ama para bandar...Yg penting kan tetap bisa dpt return 30-40% per tahun..lumayan buat nambah2 duit ngejalanin hobi..hehe On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:04 PM, indra zen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: setuju pak...mengurangi saingan..hehe - Original Message From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:37:56 PM Subject: Re: justru NAIK Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dewa oh Dewa Yup.., semakin banyak yg bermain dgn Feeling Analysis dan strategy HOPE maka saingan kita semakin sedikit... He..he.. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from XL GPRS network -Original Message- From: Wiro Milis wiro.milis09@ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] gmail.com Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:20:25 To:obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: justru NAIK Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dewa oh Dewa Wah Pak ALX, setuju banget :) I cant more agree with you :) On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:35 AM, ALX™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Mudah2an semakin banyak yg berpendapat seperti ini... :-) Jadi asumsinya market bisa rame sendiri dengan orang-orang yg mau cari untung dengan feeling sehingga Teknikalis dan Fundamentalis bisa bermain lebih nyaman... -- Salam ALX™ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http:/www.yahoo.com/r/hs No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 27/02/2008 16:34 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1302 - Release Date: 27/02/2008 16:34 + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
Ini sih bukan pasangan alien vs predator lagi, tapi pasangan Mr and Mrs Smith, moga-moga berakhir happy ending hehehe just kidding :) -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JsxTrader Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:26 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by... He.he.he.., maksut loh..? Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from XL GPRS network -Original Message- From: farhan zailani [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:00:03 To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by... ini baru pasangan yang passs...banget - Original Message From: Andrew wijaya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:43:29 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by... Emang Bursa itu tempat ramal-meramal atau tebak menebak. Tiada yang kebetulan dibursa itu, semua berdasarkan hasil kerja keras dan penelitian. Seandainya saja bursa seperti maunya Mrs. EL maka ybs sudah pasti akan menyaingi Om Buffet dan ybs. juga ngapain lagi becanda di milis ini. YBS hanya orang KESURUPAN yg maniak dan GEMAR OMONG KOSONG SAJA, ANGGAP SAJA YBS TIDAK LEBIH DARI BANNER IKLAN... Salam Andrew 2008/2/29, hendrik_lwww hendrik_lwww@ yahoo.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Beruangnya uda kelatan mba EL, btw, welcome back... ### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.f-secure.com/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
nah kalau INCO gimana ??
LK jelek tuh :D
Sampai-sampai BUMN yang tahun lalu janji bulan Feb mau keluar pada takut
muncul semua :))
Apakah TLKM takut kelihatan profit marginnya turun ??
Atau ANTM TINS yang takut menunjukan peningkatan cost gara-gara biaya energy
??
Benarkan PGAS kena forex loss mendekati 1T ??
Bagaimana dengan perbankan ?? Benarkah BMRI seperti yang digembar-gemborkan
??
Atau PTBA yang salesnya flat gara-gara kena peg oleh PLN ?? :D
Let's see and have some fun
Halim
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:41 PM, jsx_consultant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hari ini terjadi Profit Taking sesudah dikeluarkannya laporan
keuangan group Astra yg BAGUS...
Betoel kan ?
Selanjutnya kita liat aja Senin...
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, partisipan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Saya kurang setuju,
- Perusahaan yang bagus punya komitmen tinggi untuk meningkatkan
value termasuk pemenuhan kepatuhan ketentuan BEJ
-
- Original Message
From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:45:23 PM
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual
Report Re: Cash 200%
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, dwongso@ wrote:
Bgmn James? Any hint for us?
MARKET SENTIMENT akan ditimbulkan dengan dipublishnya lap
Keuangan tahunan...
Hari ini laporan tahunan beberapa emiten sudah bisa
dilihat diweb BEI...
Biasanya secara DISENGAJA atau TIDAK, laporan keuangan
yang bagus akan dipublish DULUAN seperti group Astra...
Jadi SENTIMEN positif akan dihembuskan kebursa duluan
pake metoda FGLB (First Good Last Bad) supaya index positif
dan PT bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA...
At the END, Laporan keuangan yg jelek dan bermasalah keluar
belakangan untuk bikin SENTIMEN negatif supaya index negatif
dan Buy Back bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA pada BC yg bagus..
Buat yg engga percaya, coba perhatikan POLA yg diceritakan
embah dalam sebulan INI...
Sent from my BlackBerryÂ(R) wireless device
-Original Message-
From: PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG petter_pinulung@ ...
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:46:48
To:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200%
Pawang beruang, si Mbah dan mr. James Arifin belum kasih wangsit
incoming tuh hehehehhee….
Â
From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:56 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200%
Â
Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan... tapi saya nambah reserve cash di
porto trading (gak penting ya... hehe..). Seriously, saya males
makan bangke..
Regards,
DE
PUMP and DUMP: STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROCEDURE
I borrow lots of stock from long term investors, let's say 10
million shares, with other asset as
I Buy 200 from market, price goes up
Retail buy 100, prices goes up even more
I sell 250, price weakens
Retail think it's cheap, wait..
I buy 200, price backs up
Retail Buy more 150, yes this is a rally
I sell 250, and so on...
...
..
[prices keep higher everyday while I dump]
..
..
Now I'm empty, so I stop trading
Retail stucks, wondering why the price stops, then start profit
taking. Price falls.
Panic selling, price falls even more.
I wait to pick at bottom, then return them to the original
owner.
We share profit.
::BCA::
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[obrolan-bandar] Re: Stock Picking 3/3/2008
Bisa diliat di www.kitcometals.com untuk logam selain logam mulia (nikel, alumunium, lead, zinc, lead)tapi harganya ga standart (standartnya kan dalam US$/MT) jadi harganya dikalikan 2.210. Yang harga dengan satuan standart bisa diliat di bloombergs tapi ga realtime. Saat ini harga di kitco metals nikel sentuh 14.2921 atau setara denga 31.500 UD$/MT, udah tembus titik psikologisnya, 3 hari ini nikel rally terus. udah naik lebih dari 10% dalam 3 hari... www.kitco.com (harga standart. realtime untuk emas)
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
Hari ini terjadi Profit Taking sesudah dikeluarkannya laporan keuangan group Astra yg BAGUS... Betoel kan ? Selanjutnya kita liat aja Senin... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, partisipan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saya kurang setuju, - Perusahaan yang bagus punya komitmen tinggi untuk meningkatkan value termasuk pemenuhan kepatuhan ketentuan BEJ - - Original Message From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:45:23 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report Re: Cash 200% --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, dwongso@ wrote: Bgmn James? Any hint for us? MARKET SENTIMENT akan ditimbulkan dengan dipublishnya lap Keuangan tahunan... Hari ini laporan tahunan beberapa emiten sudah bisa dilihat diweb BEI... Biasanya secara DISENGAJA atau TIDAK, laporan keuangan yang bagus akan dipublish DULUAN seperti group Astra... Jadi SENTIMEN positif akan dihembuskan kebursa duluan pake metoda FGLB (First Good Last Bad) supaya index positif dan PT bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA... At the END, Laporan keuangan yg jelek dan bermasalah keluar belakangan untuk bikin SENTIMEN negatif supaya index negatif dan Buy Back bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA pada BC yg bagus.. Buat yg engga percaya, coba perhatikan POLA yg diceritakan embah dalam sebulan INI... Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG petter_pinulung@ ... Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:46:48 To:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200% Pawang beruang, si Mbah dan mr. James Arifin belum kasih wangsit incoming tuh hehehehheeâ¦.  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:56 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200%  Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan... tapi saya nambah reserve cash di porto trading (gak penting ya... hehe..). Seriously, saya males makan bangke.. Regards, DE PUMP and DUMP: STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROCEDURE I borrow lots of stock from long term investors, let's say 10 million shares, with other asset as I Buy 200 from market, price goes up Retail buy 100, prices goes up even more I sell 250, price weakens Retail think it's cheap, wait.. I buy 200, price backs up Retail Buy more 150, yes this is a rally I sell 250, and so on... ... .. [prices keep higher everyday while I dump] .. .. Now I'm empty, so I stop trading Retail stucks, wondering why the price stops, then start profit taking. Price falls. Panic selling, price falls even more. I wait to pick at bottom, then return them to the original owner. We share profit. ::BCA:: _ ___ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
Lah kalo kinclong gini koq pak Hmin bilang jelek? Apa saya kelewatan sesuatu? kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ko jadinya berantakan yak?? waduhh... nih di ulang yg 2007 estimatenya aja (Millions USD) INCOME STATEMENT Revenue 2,291.9 Less: Cost of Goods Sold 696.7 Gross Profits 1,595.2 Less: Operating Expenses: Selling And G A Expenses Management and technical assistance36.4 Professional fees 4.5 Employee Costs 1.0 Others 8.0 Total Operating Expenses49.9 Operating Profits 1,545.3 Add : Interest Income - Less: Interest Expense (2.5)Loss on Disposals of Property (20.0)Allowance for Obsolete Supplies (8.0)Currency Loss (2.0)Others (Inc/Loss) - Net Profits Before Taxes 1,512.8 Less: Taxes (provision) 453.8 Net Profit After Taxes 1,059 Less: Pref. Stock Divds. - Earnings Available for Common Stockholders 1,059 Kayanya malah rada2 impresif deh kalo emang bisa segini, freecashflownya bkal bagus... - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
Ini estimate doank pak.. jadinya belon tentu begini, keluarnya di RUPS 26 Maret entar.. ini aNCER2 VERSI SAYAH AJAH... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lah kalo kinclong gini koq pak Hmin bilang jelek? Apa saya kelewatan sesuatu? kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ko jadinya berantakan yak?? waduhh... nih di ulang yg 2007 estimatenya aja (Millions USD) INCOME STATEMENT Revenue 2,291.9 Less: Cost of Goods Sold 696.7 Gross Profits 1,595.2 Less: Operating Expenses: Selling And G A Expenses Management and technical assistance 36.4 Professional fees 4.5 Employee Costs 1.0 Others 8.0 Total Operating Expenses 49.9 Operating Profits 1,545.3 Add : Interest Income - Less: Interest Expense (2.5)Loss on Disposals of Property (20.0)Allowance for Obsolete Supplies (8.0)Currency Loss (2.0)Others (Inc/Loss) - Net Profits Before Taxes 1,512.8 Less: Taxes (provision) 453.8 Net Profit After Taxes 1,059 Less: Pref. Stock Divds. - Earnings Available for Common Stockholders 1,059 Kayanya malah rada2 impresif deh kalo emang bisa segini, freecashflownya bkal bagus... - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nah kalau INCO gimana ?? LK jelek tuh :D Makanya INCO naik dulu hari INI...hehehe Sampai-sampai BUMN yang tahun lalu janji bulan Feb mau keluar pada takut muncul semua :)) Apakah TLKM takut kelihatan profit marginnya turun ?? Yg INI engga ada hubungan ama P/L , TLKM sih digunain buat NGADALIN IHSG seperti embah tulis kemaren... Atau ANTM TINS yang takut menunjukan peningkatan cost gara-gara biaya energy ?? TLKM -4,4%, BUMI -3,14% dan TINS +9% , IHSG -1,2% Angka2 CONTRAST ini SUDAH menunjukan si BOZZ lagi memulai SCENARIO BARU, apakah scenarionya ?. Embah lagi nebak nebak belon ketemu... Kalo index hari turun sih engga aneh karena hari Rabu dan Kamis SUDAH terjadi CAPITAL OUTFLOW... Benarkan PGAS kena forex loss mendekati 1T ?? Bagaimana dengan perbankan ?? Benarkah BMRI seperti yang digembar- gemborkan ?? Atau PTBA yang salesnya flat gara-gara kena peg oleh PLN ?? :D Let's see and have some fun Halim On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:41 PM, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari ini terjadi Profit Taking sesudah dikeluarkannya laporan keuangan group Astra yg BAGUS... Betoel kan ? Selanjutnya kita liat aja Senin... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, partisipan membergroup2003@ wrote: Saya kurang setuju, - Perusahaan yang bagus punya komitmen tinggi untuk meningkatkan value termasuk pemenuhan kepatuhan ketentuan BEJ - - Original Message From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:45:23 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report Re: Cash 200% --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, dwongso@ wrote: Bgmn James? Any hint for us? MARKET SENTIMENT akan ditimbulkan dengan dipublishnya lap Keuangan tahunan... Hari ini laporan tahunan beberapa emiten sudah bisa dilihat diweb BEI... Biasanya secara DISENGAJA atau TIDAK, laporan keuangan yang bagus akan dipublish DULUAN seperti group Astra... Jadi SENTIMEN positif akan dihembuskan kebursa duluan pake metoda FGLB (First Good Last Bad) supaya index positif dan PT bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA... At the END, Laporan keuangan yg jelek dan bermasalah keluar belakangan untuk bikin SENTIMEN negatif supaya index negatif dan Buy Back bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA pada BC yg bagus.. Buat yg engga percaya, coba perhatikan POLA yg diceritakan embah dalam sebulan INI... Sent from my BlackBerryÂ(R) wireless device -Original Message- From: PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG petter_pinulung@ ... Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:46:48 To:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200% Pawang beruang, si Mbah dan mr. James Arifin belum kasih wangsit incoming tuh hehehehheeâ¦.  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:56 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200%  Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan... tapi saya nambah reserve cash di porto trading (gak penting ya... hehe..). Seriously, saya males makan bangke.. Regards, DE PUMP and DUMP: STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROCEDURE I borrow lots of stock from long term investors, let's say 10 million shares, with other asset as I Buy 200 from market, price goes up Retail buy 100, prices goes up even more I sell 250, price weakens Retail think it's cheap, wait.. I buy 200, price backs up Retail Buy more 150, yes this is a rally I sell 250, and so on... ... .. [prices keep higher everyday while I dump] .. .. Now I'm empty, so I stop trading Retail stucks, wondering why the price stops, then start profit taking. Price falls. Panic selling, price falls even more. I wait to pick at bottom, then return them to the original owner. We share profit. ::BCA:: _ ___ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
Makin koreksi makin asyik. Bisa dpt barang murah lagi On 2/29/08, jsxtrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yoi.. dan gw juga inget dia ngomong tapi meleset jauh..trus ngeles..., dan inget wkt itu index crash karena memang seluruh dunia begitu.., jadi ngga ada nuklir2an lah..., bisa aja tuh si EL... hi..hi Masalah bakal ada koreksi dalem lagi...pastinya adalah.., itu saya percaya.. tapi kapan?? mana ada yang tau.. Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iya bener ... kayak waktu itu, dari november 2007 udah teriak-teriak mau ada nuklir eh market malah NAIK dulu. 3 bulan kemudian baru kejadian koreksi gede. cmiiw, salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, macd macdgo@ wrote: He he Kalo EL udah muncul setelah itu biasanya bursa segera uptrending JUST WATCH! He he Thanks EL MacD
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
ko jadinya berantakan yak?? waduhh... nih di ulang yg 2007 estimatenya aja (Millions USD) INCOME STATEMENT Revenue2,291.9Less: Cost of Goods Sold 696.7Gross Profits1,595.2Less: Operating Expenses: Selling And G A Expenses Management and technical assistance 36.4 Professional fees4.5Employee Costs1.0Others 8.0Total Operating Expenses 49.9 Operating Profits1,545.3Add : Interest Income - Less: Interest Expense (2.5) Loss on Disposals of Property(20.0) Allowance for Obsolete Supplies (8.0) Currency Loss (2.0) Others (Inc/Loss) - Net Profits Before Taxes1,512.8 Less: Taxes (provision) 453.8Net Profit After Taxes 1,059Less: Pref. Stock Divds.-Earnings Available for Common Stockholders 1,059 Kayanya malah rada2 impresif deh kalo emang bisa segini, freecashflownya bkal bagus...
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
SON vs BOW – just the way it is the market works – again, again Happy chuan , Aria From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Halim Mintareja Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 7:02 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report Re: Cash 200% nah kalau INCO gimana ?? LK jelek tuh :D Sampai-sampai BUMN yang tahun lalu janji bulan Feb mau keluar pada takut muncul semua :)) Apakah TLKM takut kelihatan profit marginnya turun ?? Atau ANTM TINS yang takut menunjukan peningkatan cost gara-gara biaya energy ?? Benarkan PGAS kena forex loss mendekati 1T ?? Bagaimana dengan perbankan ?? Benarkah BMRI seperti yang digembar-gemborkan ?? Atau PTBA yang salesnya flat gara-gara kena peg oleh PLN ?? :D Let's see and have some fun Halim On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:41 PM, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari ini terjadi Profit Taking sesudah dikeluarkannya laporan keuangan group Astra yg BAGUS... Betoel kan ? Selanjutnya kita liat aja Senin... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, partisipan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saya kurang setuju, - Perusahaan yang bagus punya komitmen tinggi untuk meningkatkan value termasuk pemenuhan kepatuhan ketentuan BEJ - - Original Message From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:45:23 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report Re: Cash 200% --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, dwongso@ wrote: Bgmn James? Any hint for us? MARKET SENTIMENT akan ditimbulkan dengan dipublishnya lap Keuangan tahunan... Hari ini laporan tahunan beberapa emiten sudah bisa dilihat diweb BEI... Biasanya secara DISENGAJA atau TIDAK, laporan keuangan yang bagus akan dipublish DULUAN seperti group Astra... Jadi SENTIMEN positif akan dihembuskan kebursa duluan pake metoda FGLB (First Good Last Bad) supaya index positif dan PT bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA... At the END, Laporan keuangan yg jelek dan bermasalah keluar belakangan untuk bikin SENTIMEN negatif supaya index negatif dan Buy Back bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA pada BC yg bagus.. Buat yg engga percaya, coba perhatikan POLA yg diceritakan embah dalam sebulan INI... Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -Original Message- From: PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG petter_pinulung@ ... Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:46:48 To:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200% Pawang beruang, si Mbah dan mr. James Arifin belum kasih wangsit incoming tuh hehehehhee….  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:56 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200%  Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan... tapi saya nambah reserve cash di porto trading (gak penting ya... hehe..). Seriously, saya males makan bangke.. Regards, DE PUMP and DUMP: STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROCEDURE I borrow lots of stock from long term investors, let's say 10 million shares, with other asset as I Buy 200 from market, price goes up Retail buy 100, prices goes up even more I sell 250, price weakens Retail think it's cheap, wait.. I buy 200, price backs up Retail Buy more 150, yes this is a rally I sell 250, and so on... ... .. [prices keep higher everyday while I dump] .. .. Now I'm empty, so I stop trading Retail stucks, wondering why the price stops, then start profit taking. Price falls. Panic selling, price falls even more. I wait to pick at bottom, then return them to the original owner. We share profit. ::BCA:: _ ___ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links attachment: winmail.dat
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
Ada yang tahu kira-kira besaran deviden inco nantinya??? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ini estimate doank pak.. jadinya belon tentu begini, keluarnya di RUPS 26 Maret entar.. ini aNCER2 VERSI SAYAH AJAH... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei highwaystar91@ wrote: Lah kalo kinclong gini koq pak Hmin bilang jelek? Apa saya kelewatan sesuatu? kang_ocoy_maen_saham kang_ocoy_maen_saham@ wrote: ko jadinya berantakan yak?? waduhh... nih di ulang yg 2007 estimatenya aja (Millions USD) INCOME STATEMENT Revenue 2,291.9 Less: Cost of Goods Sold 696.7 Gross Profits 1,595.2 Less: Operating Expenses: Selling And G A Expenses Management and technical assistance 36.4 Professional fees 4.5 Employee Costs 1.0 Others 8.0 Total Operating Expenses 49.9 Operating Profits 1,545.3 Add : Interest Income - Less: Interest Expense (2.5)Loss on Disposals of Property (20.0)Allowance for Obsolete Supplies (8.0)Currency Loss (2.0)Others (Inc/Loss) - Net Profits Before Taxes 1,512.8 Less: Taxes (provision) 453.8 Net Profit After Taxes 1,059 Less: Pref. Stock Divds. - Earnings Available for Common Stockholders 1,059 Kayanya malah rada2 impresif deh kalo emang bisa segini, freecashflownya bkal bagus... - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
JAKARTA (Reuters) - PT International Nickel Indonesia INCO.JK said on Friday that net profit doubled last year as the firm was paid a higher average price for nickel and increased its total production. It said it expects its nickel output to increase 3 percent in 2008. Inco's net profit jumped to $1.17 billion last year from $513 million in 2006 a year earlier, with production rising 7 percent to 76,748 tonnes. Inco said its average realized nickel price jumped 63 percent in 2007 to $29,881 per ton. http://www.reuters.com/article/hotStocksNews/idUSJAK14519520080229 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nah kalau INCO gimana ?? LK jelek tuh :D Sampai-sampai BUMN yang tahun lalu janji bulan Feb mau keluar pada takut muncul semua :)) Apakah TLKM takut kelihatan profit marginnya turun ?? Atau ANTM TINS yang takut menunjukan peningkatan cost gara-gara biaya energy ?? Benarkan PGAS kena forex loss mendekati 1T ?? Bagaimana dengan perbankan ?? Benarkah BMRI seperti yang digembar-gemborkan ?? Atau PTBA yang salesnya flat gara-gara kena peg oleh PLN ?? :D Let's see and have some fun Halim On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:41 PM, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hari ini terjadi Profit Taking sesudah dikeluarkannya laporan keuangan group Astra yg BAGUS... Betoel kan ? Selanjutnya kita liat aja Senin... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, partisipan membergroup2003@ wrote: Saya kurang setuju, - Perusahaan yang bagus punya komitmen tinggi untuk meningkatkan value termasuk pemenuhan kepatuhan ketentuan BEJ - - Original Message From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:45:23 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report Re: Cash 200% --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, dwongso@ wrote: Bgmn James? Any hint for us? MARKET SENTIMENT akan ditimbulkan dengan dipublishnya lap Keuangan tahunan... Hari ini laporan tahunan beberapa emiten sudah bisa dilihat diweb BEI... Biasanya secara DISENGAJA atau TIDAK, laporan keuangan yang bagus akan dipublish DULUAN seperti group Astra... Jadi SENTIMEN positif akan dihembuskan kebursa duluan pake metoda FGLB (First Good Last Bad) supaya index positif dan PT bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA... At the END, Laporan keuangan yg jelek dan bermasalah keluar belakangan untuk bikin SENTIMEN negatif supaya index negatif dan Buy Back bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA pada BC yg bagus.. Buat yg engga percaya, coba perhatikan POLA yg diceritakan embah dalam sebulan INI... Sent from my BlackBerryÂ(R) wireless device -Original Message- From: PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG petter_pinulung@ ... Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:46:48 To:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200% Pawang beruang, si Mbah dan mr. James Arifin belum kasih wangsit incoming tuh hehehehheeâ¦.  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:56 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200%  Bukan ajakan bukan himbauan... tapi saya nambah reserve cash di porto trading (gak penting ya... hehe..). Seriously, saya males makan bangke.. Regards, DE PUMP and DUMP: STANDARD OPERATIONAL PROCEDURE I borrow lots of stock from long term investors, let's say 10 million shares, with other asset as I Buy 200 from market, price goes up Retail buy 100, prices goes up even more I sell 250, price weakens Retail think it's cheap, wait.. I buy 200, price backs up Retail Buy more 150, yes this is a rally I sell 250, and so on... ... .. [prices keep higher everyday while I dump] .. .. Now I'm empty, so I stop trading Retail stucks, wondering why the price stops, then start profit taking. Price falls. Panic selling, price falls even more. I wait to pick at bottom, then return them to the original owner. We share profit. ::BCA:: _ ___ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
kyanya ga jelek2 amat deh mbah., estimate saya sih P/Lnya kemungkinan bgini, INCO (In MillionsUSD) INCOME STATEMENT 2006 2007 Sales Revenue 1,337.72,291.9 Less: Cost of Goods Sold (569.9) (696.7)Gross Profits 767.8 1,595.2 Less: Operating Expenses: Selling And G A Expenses Management and technical assistance 24.1 36.4Professional fees2.5 4.5Employee Costs0.4 1.0Others5.2 8.0Total Operating Expenses 32.2 49.9Operating Profits 735.6 1,545.3Add : Interest Income 11.3 - Less: Interest Expense (2.0) (2.5) Loss on Disposals of Property (10.4) (20.0) Allowance for Obsolete Supplies (5.6) (8.0) Currency Loss (1.0) (2.0) Others (Inc/Loss) 17.0 - Net Profits Before Taxes 744.9 1,512.8Less: Taxes (provision) 231.5 453.8Net Profit After Taxes 513.4 1,059Less: Pref. Stock Divds. -Earnings Available for Common Stockholders 513.41,059 tp masih nunggu gimana di annualnya nanti sih, harusnya sih ancer2nya begitu... ada info lanjutan?? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Halim Mintareja hmin918@ wrote: nah kalau INCO gimana ?? LK jelek tuh :D Makanya INCO naik dulu hari INI...hehehe Sampai-sampai BUMN yang tahun lalu janji bulan Feb mau keluar pada takut muncul semua :)) Apakah TLKM takut kelihatan profit marginnya turun ?? Yg INI engga ada hubungan ama P/L , TLKM sih digunain buat NGADALIN IHSG seperti embah tulis kemaren... Atau ANTM TINS yang takut menunjukan peningkatan cost gara-gara biaya energy ?? TLKM -4,4%, BUMI -3,14% dan TINS +9% , IHSG -1,2% Angka2 CONTRAST ini SUDAH menunjukan si BOZZ lagi memulai SCENARIO BARU, apakah scenarionya ?. Embah lagi nebak nebak belon ketemu... Kalo index hari turun sih engga aneh karena hari Rabu dan Kamis SUDAH terjadi CAPITAL OUTFLOW... Benarkan PGAS kena forex loss mendekati 1T ?? Bagaimana dengan perbankan ?? Benarkah BMRI seperti yang digembar- gemborkan ?? Atau PTBA yang salesnya flat gara-gara kena peg oleh PLN ?? :D Let's see and have some fun Halim On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:41 PM, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote: Hari ini terjadi Profit Taking sesudah dikeluarkannya laporan keuangan group Astra yg BAGUS... Betoel kan ? Selanjutnya kita liat aja Senin... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, partisipan membergroup2003@ wrote: Saya kurang setuju, - Perusahaan yang bagus punya komitmen tinggi untuk meningkatkan value termasuk pemenuhan kepatuhan ketentuan BEJ - - Original Message From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 6:45:23 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report Re: Cash 200% --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, dwongso@ wrote: Bgmn James? Any hint for us? MARKET SENTIMENT akan ditimbulkan dengan dipublishnya lap Keuangan tahunan... Hari ini laporan tahunan beberapa emiten sudah bisa dilihat diweb BEI... Biasanya secara DISENGAJA atau TIDAK, laporan keuangan yang bagus akan dipublish DULUAN seperti group Astra... Jadi SENTIMEN positif akan dihembuskan kebursa duluan pake metoda FGLB (First Good Last Bad) supaya index positif dan PT bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA... At the END, Laporan keuangan yg jelek dan bermasalah keluar belakangan untuk bikin SENTIMEN negatif supaya index negatif dan Buy Back bisa dilakukan dengan LELUASA pada BC yg bagus.. Buat yg engga percaya, coba perhatikan POLA yg diceritakan embah dalam sebulan INI... Sent from my BlackBerryÂ(R) wireless device -Original Message- From: PETTER TAULAN PINULUNG petter_pinulung@ ... Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:46:48 To:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Cash 200% Pawang beruang, si Mbah dan mr. James Arifin belum kasih wangsit incoming tuh hehehehheeâ¦.  From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[obrolan-bandar] MARKET SENTIMENT from Annual Report ....Re: Cash 200%
Ada yang orat-oret katanya 400/share, mungkin nggak sih..? Kan mending ngelakuin swing, drpd nunggu deviden, hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, icchanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ada yang tahu kira-kira besaran deviden inco nantinya??? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, kang_ocoy_maen_saham
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
Yeah, no coded message EL, please deh - Original Message From: Tjen Hartono [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:45:31 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... Dear EL, From your message through Mr. Zhu, you mentioned that there is a minor correction only and unpleasant surprise for the energy sector. However, from the below message you said that there are more deadly waves coming and TOTALLY CRAZY. For me, the messages are very confusing and contrary each other. I would very appreciate if you can clarify them (the messages) so all the OB members can find out exactly your messages. Keep posting EL. And also please have my gratitude for you Mr. FS. Regards, Tjen Hartono Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
Yeah, no coded message EL, please deh - Original Message From: Tjen Hartono [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:45:31 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... Dear EL, From your message through Mr. Zhu, you mentioned that there is a minor correction only and unpleasant surprise for the energy sector. However, from the below message you said that there are more deadly waves coming and TOTALLY CRAZY. For me, the messages are very confusing and contrary each other. I would very appreciate if you can clarify them (the messages) so all the OB members can find out exactly your messages. Keep posting EL. And also please have my gratitude for you Mr. FS. Regards, Tjen Hartono Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
Pak Budi, ini email dari EL dikirim ke Bapak kapan? Minggu ini? Minggu kemaren? 2 Minggu yg lalu? Kindly advise. Many thanks Pak - Original Message From: budi zhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:54:03 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... From EL: Day 1 A minor correction is coming someday in this week or two. Unpleasant surprise in the energy sector. Send my regards to OB family.. *wink* EL Day 2 This minor correction is QUITE PAINFUL for short term trader, especially newbies. Please tell them to be really careful and prepare some cash in hand. EL Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
Pake code biar gampang ngeles dong.., ya kan EL? Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from XL GPRS network -Original Message- From: Forever Apprentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:30:13 To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... Yeah, no coded message EL, please deh http://mail.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/04.gif - Original Message From: Tjen Hartono [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:45:31 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... Dear EL, From your message through Mr. Zhu, you mentioned that there is a minor correction only and unpleasant surprise for the energy sector. However, from the below message you said that there are more deadly waves coming and TOTALLY CRAZY. For me, the messages are very confusing and contrary each other. I would very appreciate if you can clarify them (the messages) so all the OB members can find out exactly your messages. Keep posting EL. And also please have my gratitude for you Mr. FS. Regards, Tjen Hartono Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
Mrs./Mrs. Tjen, I think EL tried to speak bulntly. We should see the time horizon. Please do not get confusse. Both messages are made for different days. Day 1 (Is it today 29/2/2008)? A minor correction is coming someday in this week or two. Unpleasant surprise in the energy sector. Day 2 (Will it be Monday 3/03/2008)? This minor correction is QUITE PAINFUL for short term trader, especially newbies. Please tell them to be really careful and prepare some cash in hand. At least the first day (if it was really today) was proven. Today, BUMI, PTBY have a minor correction. I said minor because BUMI ever moved 10% in a single day. The problem comes as follow: 1. The BOZZ could change their strategy due to EL posting because EL already succesfully read their mind and strategy. 2. Unfortunately, EL did not write waht will happen in the day 3, day 4, day 5, etc. LoL Just in my humble opinion. Tjen Hartono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear EL, From your message through Mr. Zhu, you mentioned that there is a minor correction only and unpleasant surprise for the energy sector. However, from the below message you said that there are more deadly waves coming and TOTALLY CRAZY. For me, the messages are very confusing and contrary each other. I would very appreciate if you can clarify them (the messages) so all the OB members can find out exactly your messages. Keep posting EL. And also please have my gratitude for you Mr. FS. Regards, Tjen Hartono Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
At least EL maksudnya baik, dia bilang Please tell them to be really careful and prepare some cash in hand. Tu kan maksudnya baik spy trader espc. newbie nggak kecebur. Look from the good point of view :D Cuma biasanya kan dia langsung ke OB, tapi kenapa mesti via pak Budi ya? Ada hubungan apa pak Budi dgn EL? Sori pak Budi, bukan maksud apa2, tapi kalo anda di posisi saya, pasti akan menanyakan hal yg sama... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mrs./Mrs. Tjen, I think EL tried to speak bulntly. We should see the time horizon. Please do not get confusse. Both messages are made for different days. Day 1 (Is it today 29/2/2008)? A minor correction is coming someday in this week or two. Unpleasant surprise in the energy sector. Day 2 (Will it be Monday 3/03/2008)? This minor correction is QUITE PAINFUL for short term trader, especially newbies. Please tell them to be really careful and prepare some cash in hand. At least the first day (if it was really today) was proven. Today, BUMI, PTBY have a minor correction. I said minor because BUMI ever moved 10% in a single day. The problem comes as follow: 1. The BOZZ could change their strategy due to EL posting because EL already succesfully read their mind and strategy. 2. Unfortunately, EL did not write waht will happen in the day 3, day 4, day 5, etc. LoL Just in my humble opinion. Tjen Hartono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear EL, From your message through Mr. Zhu, you mentioned that there is a minor correction only and unpleasant surprise for the energy sector. However, from the below message you said that there are more deadly waves coming and TOTALLY CRAZY. For me, the messages are very confusing and contrary each other. I would very appreciate if you can clarify them (the messages) so all the OB members can find out exactly your messages. Keep posting EL. And also please have my gratitude for you Mr. FS. Regards, Tjen Hartono Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
Sekali lagi, supaya bisa ngeles!!.., kalo hari ini ijo pasti EL ngga nongol, nah karena hari ini drop, dia langsung claim; tuh index gw turunin, kemarin kan gw udh titip pesen sama Pak Budi... dan Pak Budi memang posting pesennya EL, tapi tampa nama EL., sekedar utk jaga2 kalo2 ramalannya salah he..he...sorry ya Pak Budi cuma spekulasi aja.., biasalah spekulan..., he..he... ahh gw ko jadi usil ngurusin si EL... dah ahh... Maap ya EL Pak Budi kalo ada yg tdk berkenan..Cheers. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least EL maksudnya baik, dia bilang Please tell them to be really careful and prepare some cash in hand. Tu kan maksudnya baik spy trader espc. newbie nggak kecebur. Look from the good point of view :D Cuma biasanya kan dia langsung ke OB, tapi kenapa mesti via pak Budi ya? Ada hubungan apa pak Budi dgn EL? Sori pak Budi, bukan maksud apa2, tapi kalo anda di posisi saya, pasti akan menanyakan hal yg sama... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi andi_wahyudi2000@ wrote: Mrs./Mrs. Tjen, I think EL tried to speak bulntly. We should see the time horizon. Please do not get confusse. Both messages are made for different days. Day 1 (Is it today 29/2/2008)? A minor correction is coming someday in this week or two. Unpleasant surprise in the energy sector. Day 2 (Will it be Monday 3/03/2008)? This minor correction is QUITE PAINFUL for short term trader, especially newbies. Please tell them to be really careful and prepare some cash in hand. At least the first day (if it was really today) was proven. Today, BUMI, PTBY have a minor correction. I said minor because BUMI ever moved 10% in a single day. The problem comes as follow: 1. The BOZZ could change their strategy due to EL posting because EL already succesfully read their mind and strategy. 2. Unfortunately, EL did not write waht will happen in the day 3, day 4, day 5, etc. LoL Just in my humble opinion. Tjen Hartono thartono_bww@ wrote: Dear EL, From your message through Mr. Zhu, you mentioned that there is a minor correction only and unpleasant surprise for the energy sector. However, from the below message you said that there are more deadly waves coming and TOTALLY CRAZY. For me, the messages are very confusing and contrary each other. I would very appreciate if you can clarify them (the messages) so all the OB members can find out exactly your messages. Keep posting EL. And also please have my gratitude for you Mr. FS. Regards, Tjen Hartono Elaine orkaybgt@ wrote: Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PENYEBAB HARGA NIKEL MULAI REBOUND (Koreksi)
Sedikit kroeksi Pak TBumi. Dana Arab memang masuk ke eopra. INvestor dari Dubai diduga akan beli Royal Bank of Scotland. Investor TimTeng memang sedang banyak duit di sisi lain Bank di Eropa banyak yg kolaps salah satunya kenal imbas SM. Kita bisa melihatnya dari harga saham Bank2 Eropa macam UBS, DB dsb dalam setahun terakhir (YoY). Bisa dicek kan di Yahoo! Finance. Sebaliknya, dana dari Timur Tengah diduga sulit masuk Amerika karena sentimen primordial, a.k. karena mereka dari Arab. tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pemain Mini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kira - kira 50 tahun lagi habis gak yah ? trus company macam ANTM INCO TINS mau jualan apa ? gw rasa pasti mereka cari produk lainkalau tidak, bisa tutup tuh SIP : TBUMI Demikian juga dgn negara Arab. Khwatir suatu hari minyak mereka bisa habis diambil, maka negara Arab sudah masuk dari hasil uang minyak ke lahan bisnis di negara Industri. Daimler Benz AG sebenarnya, saham tsb sebagian sdh dipegang oleh negara Timteng. Apalagi dgn krisis mortgage disaat minyak meroket, maka banyak aset finansial di USA dan Eropa diborong oleh negara Timteng. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PENYEBAB HARGA NIKEL MULAI REBOUND
Sedikit kroeksi Pak TBumi. Dana Arab memang masuk ke eopra. INvestor dari Dubai diduga akan beli Royal Bank of Scotland. Bank Eropa memang sedang banyak duit di sisi lain Bank di Eropa banyak yg kolaps salah satunya kenal imbas SM. Kita bisa melihatnya dari harga saham Bank2 Eropa macam UBS, DB dsb dalam setahun terakhir (YoY). Sebaliknya, dana dari Timur Tengah diduga sulit masuk Amerika karena sentimen primordial, a.k. karena mereka dari Arab. tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pemain Mini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kira - kira 50 tahun lagi habis gak yah ? trus company macam ANTM INCO TINS mau jualan apa ? gw rasa pasti mereka cari produk lainkalau tidak, bisa tutup tuh SIP : TBUMI Demikian juga dgn negara Arab. Khwatir suatu hari minyak mereka bisa habis diambil, maka negara Arab sudah masuk dari hasil uang minyak ke lahan bisnis di negara Industri. Daimler Benz AG sebenarnya, saham tsb sebagian sdh dipegang oleh negara Timteng. Apalagi dgn krisis mortgage disaat minyak meroket, maka banyak aset finansial di USA dan Eropa diborong oleh negara Timteng. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
*Fred, you are right. You didn't challenge anyone, I did :) Oh, this is a friendly challenge though, no worry bout that. We are actually friends, you just didn't realize it, and I fully understand your post. After all, you need a counterpart, right? Otherwise who's gonna buy your stocks? :D* ** *It's not about winning or losing. I couldn't care less. This is just purely business.* * * *I realize some ppl here are really edgy... I don't think there is any problem with my post, but some of you responded so negatively. What is wrong with you, guys? my advice is you should to get some rest... don't push it* ** *Or you can just delete my post right away... it's not a hard thing to do so.* * * *to Elaine bashers: You never make mistakes, cuz you never contribute. If you don't like my post, then for God sake DON'T REPLY. Make yourself useful once in a while.* ** *Mr Rei, actually I was too lazy to rejoin this group, but I think I should say hi since I saw (on the Yahoogroups web) Mr FS here. So I asked mr Budi to help me.* ** *Ok, let me get this straight by rephrasing my post (for those with inadequate IQ):* ** *I said deadly waves: It means prices will move up and down very fast and wild. If you have keen eyes and fast hand, you can gain a lot from this situation OR you can just be eaten alive.* ** *I said minor correction. Self explanatory. None like January crash (I hope) * ** *I said it's quite painful for newbies. Noobs traders tend to get easily confused with market movement. I suggest you watch very carefully, or stay out if you wish.* ** *Good luck. Don't hate me cuz i'm right lol. Of course, I can be wrong though, so suit yourself this could be another chance to buy at discount price, so keep your eyes open.* ** *Elaine* On 2/29/08, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: elaine, whuaa.nice posting...provoking and intriguing... but, before making any statement please take a look at and have a good, careful reading and understanding to my previous posting... I know it was a broken english...but please read it once more time...if u have time.. As I said am not challenging anyone here...whom I know are masters in equity investment... But, sorry... I think you are too good to be true... So, i would say You win...happy..? Agh it's always hard to find friends...hard to say am just a small one; not that high or even better than others... hehe best, fs -- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [obrolan-bandar] CPRO --- Warrant -- Berita Ferringhill
emang auditornya CPRO sapa pak? klo gak diposting disini japri ke saya boleh...mumpung saya punya temen2 auditor klo sempet saya selidiki Pada tanggal 29/02/08, Salomo Gaol [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Saya ingatkan sekali lg. Untuk memudahkan corp act yg ndak jelas mereka pindah dr kap big 4 ke kap abal abal. Waspadalah! Waspadalah! Slg On 2/29/08, deso_trader [EMAIL PROTECTED]denisiinvestor%40gmail.com wrote: thanks takafumi, untung aja ngga jadi beli lagi, setelah mengamati seminggu terkahir ternyata 2 hari terakhir sudah dijatuhin lagi emang bumi top deh, mending coal daripada udang :) On 2/29/08, Takafumi Horie [EMAIL PROTECTED]ebidaisuki%40gmail.com wrote: CPRO memiliki 4 jenis warrant (dari warrant 1 sampai 4) Total jumlah warrant tersebut adalah 5.25 milyar lembar saham Sedangkan pemilik warrant nya sebagai berikut: Warrant 1 Warrant 2 Sea lion investment LTD 207,886,500 (13.86%) 207,886,500 (13.86%) Mimosa International LTD 180,000,000 (12%) 180,000,000 (12%) Al Wazor Investment LTD 245,500,000 (16.37%) 245,500,000 (16.37%) Arcutus LTD 169,000,000 (11.27%) 169,000,000 ( 11.27%) Avior LTD 195,500,000 (13.03%) 195,500,000 ( 13.03%) Total 997,886,500 (66.53%) 997,886,500 (66.53%) Bayangkan mereka memiliki warrant sebanyak 66.53% untuk setiap jenis warrant Dengan harga konversi CPRO-W = 125 dan CPRO-W2 = 130 Dengan mengeluarkan berita Ferringhill menjadi bagian pemilik saham Yang mana tanggal munculnya berita ini bersamaan dengan tanggal konversi CPRO-W2 Teman2 semua seharusnya berhati2, karena bisa saja mereka mengkonversikan seluruh warrant itu Tanpa memikirkan investor kecil seperti kita, yang penting mereka bisa dapat saham induk dengan biaya murah Dengan harga saham induk (CPRO) diharga 320 an mereka hanya perlu kira2 255 M untuk mendapatkan saham induk. Lalu mereka dengan mudah menjualnya kepada investor kecil seperti kita yang terbuai dengan kenaikan semu saham ini. Nah sekali lagi kita telah mendapatkan bentuk management seperti apa yang ada di dalam CPRO ini Menurut saya saham ini berbahaya sekali Karena orang2 didalam nya hanya memikirkan keuntungan mereka dari orang2 yang cut loss dan investor yang tidak kuat mengalami kocokan saham ini Mereka berbeda sekali dengan perusahaam Bakrie dan Harry Tanoe Jadi menurut saya berpikir lah lebih banyak jika memutuskan untuk membeli saham ini. Berhati2lah didalam berinvestasi, asset anda merupakan harta yang sangat berharga Melindungi asset merupakan bagian terpenting dalam berinvestasi Salam Cuan -- http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
Sebelumnya khan waktu di-ban sama embah, EL juga minta tolong orang lain. Saya lupa siapa, tapi kalau liat nicknya mestinya inget. Well, the most important thing is when will exactly both corrections will come? On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least EL maksudnya baik, dia bilang Please tell them to be really careful and prepare some cash in hand. Tu kan maksudnya baik spy trader espc. newbie nggak kecebur. Look from the good point of view :D Cuma biasanya kan dia langsung ke OB, tapi kenapa mesti via pak Budi ya? Ada hubungan apa pak Budi dgn EL? Sori pak Budi, bukan maksud apa2, tapi kalo anda di posisi saya, pasti akan menanyakan hal yg sama...
Re: [obrolan-bandar] CPRO --- Warrant -- Berita Ferringhill
Saya ingatkan sekali lg. Untuk memudahkan corp act yg ndak jelas mereka pindah dr kap big 4 ke kap abal abal. Waspadalah! Waspadalah! Slg On 2/29/08, deso_trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks takafumi, untung aja ngga jadi beli lagi, setelah mengamati seminggu terkahir ternyata 2 hari terakhir sudah dijatuhin lagi emang bumi top deh, mending coal daripada udang :) On 2/29/08, Takafumi Horie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CPRO memiliki 4 jenis warrant (dari warrant 1 sampai 4) Total jumlah warrant tersebut adalah 5.25 milyar lembar saham Sedangkan pemilik warrant nya sebagai berikut: Warrant 1 Warrant 2 Sea lion investment LTD 207,886,500 (13.86%) 207,886,500 (13.86%) Mimosa International LTD180,000,000 (12%) 180,000,000 (12%) Al Wazor Investment LTD245,500,000 (16.37%) 245,500,000 (16.37%) Arcutus LTD 169,000,000 (11.27%) 169,000,000 ( 11.27%) Avior LTD 195,500,000 (13.03%)195,500,000 ( 13.03%) Total 997,886,500 (66.53%) 997,886,500 (66.53%) Bayangkan mereka memiliki warrant sebanyak 66.53% untuk setiap jenis warrant Dengan harga konversi CPRO-W = 125 dan CPRO-W2 = 130 Dengan mengeluarkan berita Ferringhill menjadi bagian pemilik saham Yang mana tanggal munculnya berita ini bersamaan dengan tanggal konversi CPRO-W2 Teman2 semua seharusnya berhati2, karena bisa saja mereka mengkonversikan seluruh warrant itu Tanpa memikirkan investor kecil seperti kita, yang penting mereka bisa dapat saham induk dengan biaya murah Dengan harga saham induk (CPRO) diharga 320 an mereka hanya perlu kira2 255 M untuk mendapatkan saham induk. Lalu mereka dengan mudah menjualnya kepada investor kecil seperti kita yang terbuai dengan kenaikan semu saham ini. Nah sekali lagi kita telah mendapatkan bentuk management seperti apa yang ada di dalam CPRO ini Menurut saya saham ini berbahaya sekali Karena orang2 didalam nya hanya memikirkan keuntungan mereka dari orang2 yang cut loss dan investor yang tidak kuat mengalami kocokan saham ini Mereka berbeda sekali dengan perusahaam Bakrie dan Harry Tanoe Jadi menurut saya berpikir lah lebih banyak jika memutuskan untuk membeli saham ini. Berhati2lah didalam berinvestasi, asset anda merupakan harta yang sangat berharga Melindungi asset merupakan bagian terpenting dalam berinvestasi Salam Cuan
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PENYEBAB HARGA NIKEL MULAI REBOUND (Koreksi)
klo saudi ama UEA kuwait dan temen2 amerika kyknya duitnya di amrik byk deh yg jelas2 gak mau invest ke amrik tuch libya... kolonel kadafi udah jelas2 benci ama amrik... padahal SWFnya duitnya lumayan... katanya malah mo invest ke indonesia salah satunya Pada tanggal 29/02/08, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Sedikit kroeksi Pak TBumi. Dana Arab memang masuk ke eopra. INvestor dari Dubai diduga akan beli Royal Bank of Scotland. Investor TimTeng memang sedang banyak duit di sisi lain Bank di Eropa banyak yg kolaps salah satunya kenal imbas SM. Kita bisa melihatnya dari harga saham Bank2 Eropa macam UBS, DB dsb dalam setahun terakhir (YoY). Bisa dicek kan di Yahoo! Finance. Sebaliknya, dana dari Timur Tengah diduga sulit masuk Amerika karena sentimen primordial, a.k. karena mereka dari Arab. *tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Pemain Mini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kira - kira 50 tahun lagi habis gak yah ? trus company macam ANTM INCO TINS mau jualan apa ? gw rasa pasti mereka cari produk lainkalau tidak, bisa tutup tuh SIP : TBUMI Demikian juga dgn negara Arab. Khwatir suatu hari minyak mereka bisa habis diambil, maka negara Arab sudah masuk dari hasil uang minyak ke lahan bisnis di negara Industri. Daimler Benz AG sebenarnya, saham tsb sebagian sdh dipegang oleh negara Timteng. Apalagi dgn krisis mortgage disaat minyak meroket, maka banyak aset finansial di USA dan Eropa diborong oleh negara Timteng. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com
[obrolan-bandar] [EMAIL PROTECTED] (orANG kayA bANgEt) NARSIS
Hiii all in OB siapa elaine sebenarnya aku tidak tahu tapi dari nama emailnya orangnya NARSIS bgt!! On 2/29/08, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Dilevel IHSG berapa kita COME BACK ?
Kalau IHSG tampaknya masih tergantung sama regional, tidak mungkin jadi bull sendirian sedangkan DOW, NIKKEI sudah jadi bear. Hanya saham saham energi dan plantation saja yg bisa menopang indeks kita. Lihat sekarang DOW minus 169 (-1,33%) Bayangan jadi bear minggu depan bakalan terwujud. Salam, Newbie --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daripada ngomongin FS vs EL, Predator vs Aliens, Bull vs Bear dll, GIMANA KALO kita ngomongin yg lebih produktif misalnya: - Dilevel IHSG berapa kita COME BACK ?.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tanda alam: Koneksi Telkom ke LN down ?
saya mengalami juga Mbah... gak bisa akses bloomberg, yahoofinance, kitcometals, dll website luar negeri. - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:54 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tanda alam: Koneksi Telkom ke LN down ? Tanda alam: Koneksi Telkom ke LN down ? Pagi ini koneksi internet punya Telkom ke Luar Negri putus disaat INDEX REGIONAL jeblok Another MANUVER KAMPUNGAN ? Ada yg mengalami ? + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1300 - Release Date: 2/26/2008 7:50 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] sorry OOT Fw: Kalau memang perlu, tolong diforward
Iya tuch anaknya cakep bgt... mukanya juga kontras ama muka
emaknya... apa babenya cakep bgt ya?? jual beli anak kyknya makin marak
dech prihatin gw... cuma gw gak berbuat apa2... ya sudah dech
2008/2/29, Handoyo Gozali [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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From: Devi Kartika Sari [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mia sutanto [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mia sutanto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:37:21
Subject: Fw: Kalau memang perlu, tolong diforward
Dear all,
2 hari belakangan gue lewat jembatan penyebrangan di jalan Sudirman (depan
bank Muamalat, daerah duku atas), dan gue tertarik dengan ibu2 yang sedang
mengemis dengan seorang anak kecil. Yang menarik, anak kecilnya sangat
cantik, tidak seperti layaknya anak jalanan lainnya. Karena penasaran, hari
ke-2 gue tanya ke ibunya. Dia sih mengaku kalau anak itu adalah anaknya,
namanya Melinda, umur 11 bulan. Dia juga punya anak lagi laki2 umur 2 tahun,
dan perempuan sudah SMP. Bapaknya katanya pergi meninggalkan keluarga.
Dalam hati jd wondering aja, apakah benar Melinda adalah anaknya or karena
diculik. Bukan maksudnya mau nuduh orang, just pure wondering. Krn wondering
itulah, mknya gue kirim email ke kalian, jika kalian merasa perlu untuk
diforward, please do so. Gue attach foto Melinda dan 'ibu'nya. Gue hanya
membayangkan, bagaimana memang jika di luar sanaada orang tua yang sedang
mencari2 anaknya yang hilang. Kalau memang gue yang kehilangan anak, pasti
gue akan butuh bantuan dari siapapun untuk memberikan informasi apapun yg
dapat membantu.
Jika email ini mengganggu kalian, gue minta maap yah...
Lolla
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
Duh, kalau mba EL udah muncul kita jadinya ga bisa ngebahas hal lain yang lebih penting deh... Menurut saya ada beberapa keadaan yang sama maupun beda dari crash lalu dan (mungkin) tanda2 alam sekarang. January lalu : Bahkan sebelum bener2 crash, TLKM udah nyungsep duluan dari 12ribu ke 10 ribu sementara BEI nanjak terus ke Historical high..Jarak antara BEI dan TLKM makin menjauh. TLKM nyungsep hingga dekati 9000 sebelum akhirnya bener2 jatuh ke 8500 (langsung panik) Bursa kita naik sendiri, ketika yang lain merah kerontang (ga wajar, pernah saya bilang kan). Naiknya juga dengan volume dan nilai transaksi yang kecil. Sebagian saham sudah kembali ke 6 month low, beberapa bahkan 1 year low Rupiah Melemah Mama lauren ngeramal ngaco(he3.. bcanda, tapi emang aneh, ahli keuangan nanya cenayang?? tanya kenapa?? ga usah kuliah capek2 kalau akhirnya nanya peramal) Sekarang: TLKM masih diminati asing (lokal juga), hari ini emang profit taking karena akhir2 ini naik terus.. Laporan keuangan yang keluar menunjukan kondsi perusahaan membaik, beda dengan amrik yang pada loss bank2 nya, perusahaan dan banking kita pada cuan... Saham2 Udah pada naik dan naiknya sangat terdistribusi, dari BC ampe 3rd liner Nilai transaksi masih besar. Rupiah menguat Yang bisa kita pelajari : Ga usah takut, apalagi pesimis, OPTIMIS aja, toh semua saham yang jatu pada crash bulan lalu, kalau kita tutup mata, malah cuan tanpa kuatir. Kalau satu milis senin nanti pada paranoia, asing dengan gampang short selling. Kalau semua pada cut loss, jadilah crash beneran. KIta ga usah membesar2kan musuh (tapi jangan juga diangap remeh).. UNTUK YANG LAGI PEGANG DUIT EMANG PENGAN BEI TURUN DULU biar bisa belanja.. BUMI dari 6000 turun jadi 4000 sekarang 7700 ANTM 4500 ke 2900 sekarang 4100 (langsung dihujat waktu turun) Inco sempat urun 7000 dalam 10 menit ke 7700 sekarang 9450 ASII ke bawah 20 ribu, sekrang 27000an Banyak yang balik kan. tapi ga menjamin bahwa ga akan ada crash lagi, yang ingin saya katakan adalah, seringkali karena terlalu mengkuatirkan 1 minggu ke depan, kita kehilangan peuang 1 bulan ke depan. Bayangkan kerugian yang cut loss ANTM di 2900 atau INCO di 7000 atau BUMI di 4000an.. Hampir semua saham yang waktu hari crash jatuh dalem, sekarang hampir balik kan... Asalkan sebelum membeli saham udah dikalkulasi harganya, yah turun dikit ga apa2 (asal ga pake margin). Tidak semua harga saham di BEI tidak mencerminkan kondisi asli perusahaan kok. Ada saham jelek harga tinggi (pantas diturunkan) ada saham bagus (malah turun terus) ada juga yang harganya udah fair value... Siap2 switch pemikiran dari day trader ke investor mid term untuk tetap cuan..Ada yang bilang, kalau sulit liat detailnya, liat gambaran besarnya... - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...
what do you want to do on monday ? hehehe.Mr Optimis SajalahT - Original Message - From: Dean Earwicker To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... sori kepencet.. India -3% barusan Lihat senin lah.. Regards, DE On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yah India -547, On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Heryadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bagaimana nich menurut boss JA DE - Original Message - From: Elaine To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
Saya setuju ama Mr FS. untuk kondisi skrjika memang mau crash.tidak ada gunanya buat Bozz retail2er spt saya masih pada cash semua, krn tidak berani hold karena arah indeks blm jelas. Jika udah mulai masuk bull.nah itu baru boleh bilang crash karena retail2er pada buy n hold...makanya bikin bull dulu dan buat kita terlena Bozz skr tinggal pilihan si Bozz.mau jatuhin indeks skr juga.atau kapan ?? ditunggu kok ama saya.hehehelumayan kalo ketemu TINS 22000 lagi. hahahaha... - Original Message - From: Frederick Schubert To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:32 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by... elaine, whuaa.nice posting...provoking and intriguing... but, before making any statement please take a look at and have a good, careful reading and understanding to my previous posting... I know it was a broken english...but please read it once more time...if u have time.. As I said am not challenging anyone here...whom I know are masters in equity investment... But, sorry... I think you are too good to be true... So, i would say You win...happy..? Agh it's always hard to find friends...hard to say am just a small one; not that high or even better than others... hehe best, fs -- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by...Don't Forget
Ga ada yang ngawasin harga CPO n Coal ya ?? CPO tembus 4000 MYR/ton tuh... COAL ga tau,he3... Ada yang tau?? - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
Just simply imagine this conversation: Bank's Shareholders: Don't care what the hell you are doing. Just bring me more fortune this year. Your performance last year was not satisfied me. Now get me money or I will kick you out of business. Board of Director: Yes, sir. I will do everything to bring you more fortune. As much as possible. kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bahana en ML sell off was CITIGROUP's!!... ;P --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mrs. Elaine and Herr Schubert, both of you are correct. In short term there will be correction for market but in the long term there will be bullish for energy sector. This morning I watched CNBC Europe and this porgram said that money in US will be invested more in the energy and comodity market instead of bonds and shares. After being tumbled by big FM, the money will flow again. The question, how deep the is the bearish territory for energy-sector-shares at BEI. Let's take BUMI as our example: will BUMI touch 6000 and the step up again? Or will be just at 7000? No one knows it. Just in my humble opinion Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just watch.. The EARTH shatters.. lol Mr Budi Zhu, please repost what I said to you yesterday... EL On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Forever Apprentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi EL, welcome back... nice to hear from you again. You have proved yourself the last time so I will stick to your words. Just hope you are kindly enough not to code your message this time. Keep it straight so we are all clear. This time, you have your credibility on the line vs Mr. FS. Will you be right again this time? Only time will tell. - Original Message From: Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:19:16 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PENYEBAB HARGA NIKEL MULAI REBOUND (Koreksi)
Tahun lalu Dubai Port mau beli salah satu pelabuhan di Amrik. What happened then? Amerika did not want that VIVID VIDI VICI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: klo saudi ama UEA kuwait dan temen2 amerika kyknya duitnya di amrik byk deh yg jelas2 gak mau invest ke amrik tuch libya... kolonel kadafi udah jelas2 benci ama amrik... padahal SWFnya duitnya lumayan... katanya malah mo invest ke indonesia salah satunya Pada tanggal 29/02/08, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: Sedikit kroeksi Pak TBumi. Dana Arab memang masuk ke eopra. INvestor dari Dubai diduga akan beli Royal Bank of Scotland. Investor TimTeng memang sedang banyak duit di sisi lain Bank di Eropa banyak yg kolaps salah satunya kenal imbas SM. Kita bisa melihatnya dari harga saham Bank2 Eropa macam UBS, DB dsb dalam setahun terakhir (YoY). Bisa dicek kan di Yahoo! Finance. Sebaliknya, dana dari Timur Tengah diduga sulit masuk Amerika karena sentimen primordial, a.k. karena mereka dari Arab. tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Pemain Mini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kira - kira 50 tahun lagi habis gak yah ? trus company macam ANTM INCO TINS mau jualan apa ? gw rasa pasti mereka cari produk lainkalau tidak, bisa tutup tuh SIP : TBUMI Demikian juga dgn negara Arab. Khwatir suatu hari minyak mereka bisa habis diambil, maka negara Arab sudah masuk dari hasil uang minyak ke lahan bisnis di negara Industri. Daimler Benz AG sebenarnya, saham tsb sebagian sdh dipegang oleh negara Timteng. Apalagi dgn krisis mortgage disaat minyak meroket, maka banyak aset finansial di USA dan Eropa diborong oleh negara Timteng. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -- http://www.vividtrader.blogspot.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Black monday???
Dow -302 saat ini jam 3:37 cyn
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Just passing by...
Tambahan: Imagine the discussion below occured in all financial institutions. Then we can say: Alien vs. Predator. Saling bunh yg penting ga kena kicked out 3 hari lalu saya sudah beri YoY chartnya. LoL Goldman, Merrill, Citi Outlook Lowered http://www.cnbc.com/id/23405859 http://www.cnbc.com/id/23408631 Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just simply imagine this conversation: Bank's Shareholders: Don't care what the hell you are doing. Just bring me more fortune this year. Your performance last year was not satisfied me. Now get me money or I will kick you out of business. Board of Director: Yes, sir. I will do everything to bring you more fortune. As much as possible. kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bahana en ML sell off was CITIGROUP's!!... ;P --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mrs. Elaine and Herr Schubert, both of you are correct. In short term there will be correction for market but in the long term there will be bullish for energy sector. This morning I watched CNBC Europe and this porgram said that money in US will be invested more in the energy and comodity market instead of bonds and shares. After being tumbled by big FM, the money will flow again. The question, how deep the is the bearish territory for energy-sector-shares at BEI. Let's take BUMI as our example: will BUMI touch 6000 and the step up again? Or will be just at 7000? No one knows it. Just in my humble opinion Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just watch.. The EARTH shatters.. lol Mr Budi Zhu, please repost what I said to you yesterday... EL On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Forever Apprentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi EL, welcome back... nice to hear from you again. You have proved yourself the last time so I will stick to your words. Just hope you are kindly enough not to code your message this time. Keep it straight so we are all clear. This time, you have your credibility on the line vs Mr. FS. Will you be right again this time? Only time will tell. - Original Message From: Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 2:19:16 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Just passing by... Hi all, I'm here again... how's your trading today, friends? Rainy eh? Well, just relax and watch. I'll show you how easy it is to drive the market up and down. All I can say is there are more deadly waves coming.. TOTALLY CRAZY... get a grip.. sure, you can get benefit from it, but you must be extremely quick handed... No, you don't have to listen to me of course. :) Previously I told Mr. Budi Zhu about this and ask him to fwd it to OB, but seems he forgot to mention my name. So, I gues I've to do it by myself. MARCH MADNESS. To FS: LOL, I challenge you to reverse all of your statement, before it's too late. :) EL - Never miss a thing.Make Yahoo your homepage. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
