[obrolan-bandar] MALAM INI PENENTUAN!
Malam ini penentuan utk index DOW JONES! Apa 7400 tembus? Kalo mau lihat malam nanti coba jam 3 pagi WIB. 1 Jam sebelum tutup, soalnya mirip BEI yg paling penting sejam sebelum tutup. Tapi menurut saya lihat dari TA, apalagi SP500 dan NASDAQ masih ada tenaga untuk turun. Saham komponen DOW yg juga anggota NASDAQ macam MSFT, INTC lapkeu jelek, outlook jelek, valuasi pas2an cuma sama buruknya dgn taun 2001-2002 padahal ini dekat2 depresi. Saya yakin jebol support 7400. Selama aset buruk banking nggak dihapus, nggak akan ada kepastian, mau dijual ke swasta siapa yg mau beli diharga bagus? Dan gilanya kalo aset buruk nggak dipisah mirip BPPN jaman kita dulu, aset bagus bank bakal ikut jelek. Itu masalahnya ngak ada keberanian berkorban macam rakyat Indonesia (bukan berkorban sih, bego aja kita ditipuin). Untuk Indonesia, saham2 CPO baiknya BUY ON WEAKNESS, ada aksi akumulasi di CPO futures MALAYSIA. Malah kalo terus2an kuat diharga sekarang, saham2 CPO akan rebound (kecuali UNSP) ke level tertinggi di taun 2007 (bukan 2008 ya!). Coba berapa AALI di 2007? Kuat sekali ini CPO? Padahal Corn saja belum pulih2 amat. Bottom BEI? wuih sesudah q1 keluar! Pemenang PEMILU 2009, SBY, ke-2, Prabowo ; ) said who? I got a feeling, soalnya Prabowo belanja iklan edan2an, BIGGEST LOSER, Sultan.
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today?
-ANTM bakal 400! --- On Mon, 2/16/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com wrote: From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 9:31 PM Blom ada signal apa-apa pak, lagi akumulasi berat kayaknya.., liat aja tuh riset pada downgrade.., jd masih belum mau jalan lah..., ntar kalau udh selesai baru dikeluarin berita2 bagus. Sementara saya tunggu di 10x0.. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISATFrom: charles2416 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:28:29 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? Prof JT, ANTM gimana yah hari ini? Last 2 days, Harga turun, Volume juga ikut nyusut. Apa artinya? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.24/1954 - Release Date: 2/15/2009 6:09 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.24/1954 - Release Date: 2/15/2009 6:09 PM Lebih bergaul dan terhubung dengan lebih baik. Tambah lebih banyak teman ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED
*It's okay but not on my watchlist. Elaine** * On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Halim Perdana ir_r...@yahoo.com wrote: How about banking sector, elaine? -- *From:* Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:56:24 AM *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED *SIMA, IS THIS ALL YOU CAN DO? LOL WHERE IS THE FRICKIN NUKE??? COME ON BRING IT ON, WE WILL SURELY BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YA.. Elaine** * On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.comelainesu...@gmail.com wrote: *Elaine's 10 commandments: 1. Thou shalt buy commodities energy stocks 2. Thou shalt avoid consumer stocks 3. Thou shalt avoid gold 4. Thou shalt invest 5. The guy below is retarded 6. All bears are retarded 7. Asia vs Western Decoupling 8. Thou shalt love crises as an opportunity. 9. Thou shalt avoid worthless US dollars. 10. China Indonesia = Money Machine. Elaine** * On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Ratu Sima ratus...@gmail. comratus...@gmail.com wrote: Aimee CAN'T see no more how slow retarded the process of conspiracy clearing within SP its alike. With how tough the market has been underway nowadays, this case MUST be tackled promptly rightly. How national stock market CAN BE further saved if the common investors are poorly protected appreciated. In the Big General's Regime, there are people above the law BUT now there should be more people en masse against them or it will continue to be Zero Sum Game. Let me be straight: This long deflationary period WON'T last too long. By the 3rd Quarter of this year, it will jump into INFLATION. This tight-preservation of interest rate of 'Wait See' Game WILL eventually blow up turn the cycle around. I have been in China for days people have started to worry about the 2000 B currency reserve put in US Treasury. When the recession is going further, the yield benefit of it is only exercised for subsidizing the Neverland's crisis. In turn, it CAN bubble inflation spread throughout the worlds. When it occurs, the world's economy can be in the lost decade. Properties, on the other hand, CAN'T be a safe-heaven as well. Yet, infrastructure development is COSTLY. Precious metals might do save but the world's economy is fixed in the Neverland's fiat currency and leave other countries paralyzed. Don't be fed up with how equity market has been on the way because the truth is 'as the way it is'. It is still miles away to go up. Meanwhile, let me recall again: Clear up soon domestic homeworks before things fall any further. Indonesia is in dire need of transitional figure who would stand up to what they believe. When times of up come along, only clear state of equity business practices can guarantee IHSG to grow along its international benchmark market. For dear investors, stick back to growth stocks, clean clean growth stocks. Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical stock. For traders, hit run will still be ON. Ratusima, The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links 1B2.gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED
we miss your BUY word.. can you use it elaine?? pleasee... Thank You! ThomaS FredericK--- On Wed, 2/18/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILEDTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 2:01 AM It's okay but not on my watchlist.Elaine On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Halim Perdana ir_r...@yahoo. com wrote: How about banking sector, elaine? From: Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:56:24 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED SIMA, IS THIS ALL YOU CAN DO? LOL WHERE IS THE FRICKIN NUKE??? COME ON BRING IT ON, WE WILL SURELY BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YA.. Elaine On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com wrote: Elaine's 10 commandments:1. Thou shalt buy commodities energy stocks 2. Thou shalt avoid consumer stocks3. Thou shalt avoid gold4. Thou shalt invest5. The guy below is retarded6. All bears are retarded7. Asia vs Western Decoupling8. Thou shalt love crises as an opportunity.9. Thou shalt avoid worthless US dollars.10. China Indonesia = Money Machine.Elaine On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Ratu Sima ratus...@gmail. com wrote: Aimee CAN'T see no more how slow retarded the process of conspiracyclearing within SP its alike.With how tough the market has been underway nowadays, this case MUST betackled promptly rightly.How national stock market CAN BE further saved if the common investorsare poorly protected appreciated.In the Big General's Regime, there are people above the law BUT nowthere should be more people en masse against them or it will continue tobe Zero Sum Game.Let me be straight:This long deflationary period WON'T last too long. By the 3rd Quarter ofthis year, it will jump into INFLATION. This tight-preservation ofinterest rate of 'Wait See' Game WILL eventually blow up turn thecycle around.I have been in China for days people have started to worry about the2000 B currency reserve put in US Treasury. When the recession is goingfurther, the yield benefit of it is only exercised for subsidizing theNeverland's crisis. In turn, it CAN bubble inflation spread throughoutthe worlds.When it occurs, the world's economy can be in the lost decade.Properties, on the other hand, CAN'T be a safe-heaven as well. Yet,infrastructure development is COSTLY. Precious metals might do save butthe world's economy is fixed in the Neverland's fiat currency and leaveother countries paralyzed.Don't be fed up with how equity market has been on the way because thetruth is 'as the way it is'. It is still miles away to go up.Meanwhile, let me recall again:Clear up soon domestic homeworks before things fall any further.Indonesia is in dire need of transitional figure who would stand up towhat they believe.When times of up come along, only clear state of equity businesspractices can guarantee IHSG to grow along its international benchmarkmarket.For dear investors, stick back to growth stocks, clean clean growthstocks. Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical stock.For traders, hit run will still be ON.Ratusima,The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java - - --+ ++ + + + +Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapuskecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.+ + + + ++ +Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/obrolan- bandar/* Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional* To change settings online go to: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/obrolan- bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required)* To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar- dig...@yahoogrou ps.com mailto:obrolan-bandar- fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar- unsubscribe@ yahoogroups. com* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs. yahoo.com/ info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED
And your watchlist are? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:01:59 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED *It's okay but not on my watchlist. Elaine** * On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Halim Perdana ir_r...@yahoo.com wrote: How about banking sector, elaine? -- *From:* Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:56:24 AM *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED *SIMA, IS THIS ALL YOU CAN DO? LOL WHERE IS THE FRICKIN NUKE??? COME ON BRING IT ON, WE WILL SURELY BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YA.. Elaine** * On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.comelainesu...@gmail.com wrote: *Elaine's 10 commandments: 1. Thou shalt buy commodities energy stocks 2. Thou shalt avoid consumer stocks 3. Thou shalt avoid gold 4. Thou shalt invest 5. The guy below is retarded 6. All bears are retarded 7. Asia vs Western Decoupling 8. Thou shalt love crises as an opportunity. 9. Thou shalt avoid worthless US dollars. 10. China Indonesia = Money Machine. Elaine** * On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Ratu Sima ratus...@gmail. comratus...@gmail.com wrote: Aimee CAN'T see no more how slow retarded the process of conspiracy clearing within SP its alike. With how tough the market has been underway nowadays, this case MUST be tackled promptly rightly. How national stock market CAN BE further saved if the common investors are poorly protected appreciated. In the Big General's Regime, there are people above the law BUT now there should be more people en masse against them or it will continue to be Zero Sum Game. Let me be straight: This long deflationary period WON'T last too long. By the 3rd Quarter of this year, it will jump into INFLATION. This tight-preservation of interest rate of 'Wait See' Game WILL eventually blow up turn the cycle around. I have been in China for days people have started to worry about the 2000 B currency reserve put in US Treasury. When the recession is going further, the yield benefit of it is only exercised for subsidizing the Neverland's crisis. In turn, it CAN bubble inflation spread throughout the worlds. When it occurs, the world's economy can be in the lost decade. Properties, on the other hand, CAN'T be a safe-heaven as well. Yet, infrastructure development is COSTLY. Precious metals might do save but the world's economy is fixed in the Neverland's fiat currency and leave other countries paralyzed. Don't be fed up with how equity market has been on the way because the truth is 'as the way it is'. It is still miles away to go up. Meanwhile, let me recall again: Clear up soon domestic homeworks before things fall any further. Indonesia is in dire need of transitional figure who would stand up to what they believe. When times of up come along, only clear state of equity business practices can guarantee IHSG to grow along its international benchmark market. For dear investors, stick back to growth stocks, clean clean growth stocks. Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical stock. For traders, hit run will still be ON. Ratusima, The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today?
ANTM bakal 20rb... Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Baso TAHU tahub...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:01:50 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? -ANTM bakal 400! --- On Mon, 2/16/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com wrote: From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 9:31 PM Blom ada signal apa-apa pak, lagi akumulasi berat kayaknya.., liat aja tuh riset pada downgrade.., jd masih belum mau jalan lah..., ntar kalau udh selesai baru dikeluarin berita2 bagus. Sementara saya tunggu di 10x0.. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISATFrom: charles2416 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:28:29 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? Prof JT, ANTM gimana yah hari ini? Last 2 days, Harga turun, Volume juga ikut nyusut. Apa artinya? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.24/1954 - Release Date: 2/15/2009 6:09 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.24/1954 - Release Date: 2/15/2009 6:09 PM Lebih bergaul dan terhubung dengan lebih baik. Tambah lebih banyak teman ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ASII (TP Rp7,700) - JP Morgan: January 4W sales down 20% M/M, worse than what recent media reports indicated
Kalau mau jadi investor long-term..7.700 mesti buy. Turunnya penjualan ASII karena faktor ekonomi global, akan tetapi daya saing perusahaannya sendiri masih tetap yahud. Saat ekonomi pulih, saham ini jg dengan cepat akan recover. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:13 PM, simon bolenang simon_bolen...@yahoo.comwrote: Risetnya bikin muntah darah. Headline: Astra International: January 4W sales down 20% M/M, worse than what recent media reports indicated Abstract: January 4W sales fell 20% M/M, a negative surprise: 4W vehicle sales in Indonesia declined to 31,634 units in Januarymdash;versus 34,000 unit sales, as indicated by Bloomberg. Volumes fell 23% Y/Y and 20% M/M. Vehicle sales have declined by 43% since October, and the pace of contraction continues to accelerate. We believe our forecast that vehicle sales will stabilize at 30,000 units per month faces downside risks. We are wary of a sudden increase in market share: In the past quarter, Astrarsquo;s market share rose to more than 60%. Although, we expect Astra to gain market share in a downturn, we believe the significant increase in its market share brings with it uncomfortable memories. In late FY05/early FY06, Astrarsquo;s market share increase resulted in large channel inventories and was followed by a decrease in sales volume (please refer to Figure 1). If a similar pattern is emerging, we are concerned that the recent increase in market share could be symptomatic of rising channel inventories, which may not bode well for volumes in coming months. Downward pressure intact; we stay UW: On February 11, 2009, ASIIrsquo;s stock price fell over 6% on news (Bloomberg) that vehicle sales in January were 34,000 units. With actual figures being lower, we expect negative reaction to this data. Our FY09E EPS for Astra is 15% below the consensus estimate; we expect downward estimate revisions after a potentially weak sales release. We see this as a key negative driver. Hence, we reiterate our UW rating on Astra. We prefer UNTR within the group: Our Dec-09 PT of Rp7,700 for Astra is in line with its current book value, and based on 6x FY09E EPS, which is in line with previous trough values. Value accruing from Astrarsquo;s subsidiaries (which have recently outperformed the parent) is a risk to our view, but investors could look at UNTR directly to play this angle.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED
buy udah dr tadi pak, pas dalam proses hsi dr-200 sampe plus, pas sp fut plusnya tambah naik--- On Wed, 2/18/09, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote:From: Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.comSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILEDTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 8:04 AMwe miss your BUY word.. can you use it elaine?? pleasee... Thank You! ThomaS FredericK--- On Wed, 2/18/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILEDTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 2:01 AM It's okay but not on my watchlist.Elaine On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Halim Perdana ir_r...@yahoo. com wrote: How about banking sector, elaine? From: Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:56:24 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED SIMA, IS THIS ALL YOU CAN DO? LOL WHERE IS THE FRICKIN NUKE??? COME ON BRING IT ON, WE WILL SURELY BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YA.. Elaine On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com wrote: Elaine's 10 commandments:1. Thou shalt buy commodities energy stocks 2. Thou shalt avoid consumer stocks3. Thou shalt avoid gold4. Thou shalt invest5. The guy below is retarded6. All bears are retarded7. Asia vs Western Decoupling8. Thou shalt love crises as an opportunity.9. Thou shalt avoid worthless US dollars.10. China Indonesia = Money Machine.Elaine On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Ratu Sima ratus...@gmail. com wrote: Aimee CAN'T see no more how slow retarded the process of conspiracyclearing within SP its alike.With how tough the market has been underway nowadays, this case MUST betackled promptly rightly.How national stock market CAN BE further saved if the common investorsare poorly protected appreciated.In the Big General's Regime, there are people above the law BUT nowthere should be more people en masse against them or it will continue tobe Zero Sum Game.Let me be straight:This long deflationary period WON'T last too long. By the 3rd Quarter ofthis year, it will jump into INFLATION. This tight-preservation ofinterest rate of 'Wait See' Game WILL eventually blow up turn thecycle around..I have been in China for days people have started to worry about the2000 B currency reserve put in US Treasury. When the recession is goingfurther, the yield benefit of it is only exercised for subsidizing theNeverland's crisis. In turn, it CAN bubble inflation spread throughoutthe worlds.When it occurs, the world's economy can be in the lost decade.Properties, on the other hand, CAN'T be a safe-heaven as well. Yet,infrastructure development is COSTLY.. Precious metals might do save butthe world's economy is fixed in the Neverland's fiat currency and leaveother countries paralyzed.Don't be fed up with how equity market has been on the way because thetruth is 'as the way it is'. It is still miles away to go up.Meanwhile, let me recall again:Clear up soon domestic homeworks before things fall any further.Indonesia is in dire need of transitional figure who would stand up towhat they believe.When times of up come along, only clear state of equity businesspractices can guarantee IHSG to grow along its international benchmarkmarket.For dear investors, stick back to growth stocks, clean clean growthstocks. Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical stock.For traders, hit run will still be ON.Ratusima,The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java - - --+ ++ + + + +Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapuskecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.+ + + + ++ +Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/obrolan- bandar/* Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional* To change settings online go to: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/obrolan- bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required)* To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar- dig...@yahoogrou ps.com mailto:obrolan-bandar- fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar- unsubscribe@ yahoogroups. com* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs. yahoo.com/ info/terms/
[obrolan-bandar] to pak JT: HEXA
pak JT, minta analisis-nya dong untuk HEXA, apa sudah saat-nya dilepas dulu? atau akan masih menguat terus? saya juga penasaran dengan chart yang biasa pak JT buat, untuk newbie seperti saya terkagum kagum itu buat dimana pak? maksud saya ambil di mana? salam
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MALAM INI PENENTUAN!
dont talk about politics here please, u can get a problem if someone see your writing, just an advice no hard feeling peace From: Baso TAHU tahub...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:00:11 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MALAM INI PENENTUAN! Malam ini penentuan utk index DOW JONES! Apa 7400 tembus? Kalo mau lihat malam nanti coba jam 3 pagi WIB. 1 Jam sebelum tutup, soalnya mirip BEI yg paling penting sejam sebelum tutup. Tapi menurut saya lihat dari TA, apalagi SP500 dan NASDAQ masih ada tenaga untuk turun. Saham komponen DOW yg juga anggota NASDAQ macam MSFT, INTC lapkeu jelek, outlook jelek, valuasi pas2an cuma sama buruknya dgn taun 2001-2002 padahal ini dekat2 depresi. Saya yakin jebol support 7400. Selama aset buruk banking nggak dihapus, nggak akan ada kepastian, mau dijual ke swasta siapa yg mau beli diharga bagus? Dan gilanya kalo aset buruk nggak dipisah mirip BPPN jaman kita dulu, aset bagus bank bakal ikut jelek. Itu masalahnya ngak ada keberanian berkorban macam rakyat Indonesia (bukan berkorban sih, bego aja kita ditipuin). Untuk Indonesia, saham2 CPO baiknya BUY ON WEAKNESS, ada aksi akumulasi di CPO futures MALAYSIA. Malah kalo terus2an kuat diharga sekarang, saham2 CPO akan rebound (kecuali UNSP) ke level tertinggi di taun 2007 (bukan 2008 ya!). Coba berapa AALI di 2007? Kuat sekali ini CPO? Padahal Corn saja belum pulih2 amat. Bottom BEI? wuih sesudah q1 keluar! Pemenang PEMILU 2009, SBY, ke-2, Prabowo ; ) said who? I got a feeling, soalnya Prabowo belanja iklan edan2an, BIGGEST LOSER, Sultan.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 )
best management in bank, still value hari ini top 3 semoga dpt cash flow dr bank lain (bnga n bdmn) 2009/2/18 Yanuar Mustofa yanuar.must...@yahoo.com thnks prof.. kemaren mau masuk takutnya turun lg...hehehehhe gw mau average down boss... bottomnya udah 1700 apa masih lower lg... gw ikut boss rei..buat long invest -- *From:* JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, 18 February 2009 2:14:51 *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 ) kalau ngincer bmri kemarin wkt tes gap napa gak masuk? kalau sekarang sih tunggu close diatas 1740 deh. ASII kemarin juga test gap 10800...lari lagi tuh..., berikutnya yg ada gap BBCA.., coba aja ntar kita liat,di tes ngga.. JsxTrader.com -- *From:* Yanuar Mustofa yanuar.mustofa@ yahoo.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:53:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 ) bmri rada aneh nich..lap keunya blm keluar2... tapi TP tiap broker diatas 2300-an apa karena lap keunya bagus yaaa..makanya blm dimuncul2in. .atau malah jelek.. tp menurut terawangan gw sich bagus...katrena akan katrol sektor banking nanti.. pak JT...udah boleh mulai collect gak nehklo diliat dr sisi volume thnks again to prof JT -- *From:* simon bolenang simon_bolenang@ yahoo.com *To:* obrolan-bandar yahoogroups obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com; saham yahoogroups sa...@yahoogroups. com *Sent:* Wednesday, 18 February 2009 12:07:58 *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 ) *Bank Mandiri* *Bank Mandiri (BMRI IJ) is now Arief's top pick out of Indonesia.* He raised PO 17% to Rp 2,800 and lifts 2009-10 forecast bottom line by 12-29%. BMRI has successfully revolutionized its operation, strengthened risk management, and cleaned up loan portfolio over the last 4 years and these structural changes are set to deliver sustainable improvement in earnings and RoE. As Indonesia implements easing monetary and expansionary fiscal policies, Arief see 2009-10 earnings benefits from higher NIM, better than anticipated loan growth, and resilient economic growth hence lower loan loss provisions. * **Stock trades on 6.3x EPS and 1.1x P/BV '09. Arief thinks the bank worth 1.7x BV when market realize fears about relaps restructured loan in BMRI is out of place. * http://research1. ml.com/C/ ?q= V4ruqvv8RwrltljEpgr EYA%3D%3D r=eryadohttp://research1.ml.com/C/?q=V4ruqvv8RwrltljEpgrEYA%3D%3Dr=eryado -- Get your preferred Email name! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/sg/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/sg/ Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail. com. -- Get your preferred Email name! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/sg/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/sg/ Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail.com.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ASII (TP Rp7,700) - JP Morgan: January 4W sales down 20% M/M, worse than what recent media reports indicated
ya... sudah nungguin nih... kagak dikasih2 jamuran :) 2009/2/18 XXX bubbletra...@gmail.com Kalau mau jadi investor long-term..7.700 mesti buy. Turunnya penjualan ASII karena faktor ekonomi global, akan tetapi daya saing perusahaannya sendiri masih tetap yahud. Saat ekonomi pulih, saham ini jg dengan cepat akan recover. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:13 PM, simon bolenang simon_bolen...@yahoo.com wrote: Risetnya bikin muntah darah. Headline: Astra International: January 4W sales down 20% M/M, worse than what recent media reports indicated Abstract: January 4W sales fell 20% M/M, a negative surprise: 4W vehicle sales in Indonesia declined to 31,634 units in Januarymdash;versus 34,000 unit sales, as indicated by Bloomberg. Volumes fell 23% Y/Y and 20% M/M. Vehicle sales have declined by 43% since October, and the pace of contraction continues to accelerate. We believe our forecast that vehicle sales will stabilize at 30,000 units per month faces downside risks. We are wary of a sudden increase in market share: In the past quarter, Astrarsquo;s market share rose to more than 60%. Although, we expect Astra to gain market share in a downturn, we believe the significant increase in its market share brings with it uncomfortable memories. In late FY05/early FY06, Astrarsquo;s market share increase resulted in large channel inventories and was followed by a decrease in sales volume (please refer to Figure 1). If a similar pattern is emerging, we are concerned that the recent increase in market share could be symptomatic of rising channel inventories, which may not bode well for volumes in coming months. Downward pressure intact; we stay UW: On February 11, 2009, ASIIrsquo;s stock price fell over 6% on news (Bloomberg) that vehicle sales in January were 34,000 units. With actual figures being lower, we expect negative reaction to this data. Our FY09E EPS for Astra is 15% below the consensus estimate; we expect downward estimate revisions after a potentially weak sales release. We see this as a key negative driver. Hence, we reiterate our UW rating on Astra. We prefer UNTR within the group: Our Dec-09 PT of Rp7,700 for Astra is in line with its current book value, and based on 6x FY09E EPS, which is in line with previous trough values. Value accruing from Astrarsquo;s subsidiaries (which have recently outperformed the parent) is a risk to our view, but investors could look at UNTR directly to play this angle.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] to pak JT: HEXA
Hexa - meskipun sdh naik beberapa hari, namun sampai detik ini belum ada signal reversal, baik di daily maupun di intraday. Tekanan keatas masih terlihat cukup baik, tidak terdeteksi ada heavy distribution, the only thing yg mesti diwaspadai adalah divergence negative price volume, jika anda sdh in position, pasang aja trailing stop.., next tes level 1000'an. Good Luck. JT Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT -Original Message- From: Vic-milis milis9...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:05:20 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] to pak JT: HEXA pak JT, minta analisis-nya dong untuk HEXA, apa sudah saat-nya dilepas dulu? atau akan masih menguat terus? saya juga penasaran dengan chart yang biasa pak JT buat, untuk newbie seperti saya terkagum kagum itu buat dimana pak? maksud saya ambil di mana? salam + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ASII (TP Rp7,700) - JP Morgan: January 4W sales down 20% M/M, worse than what recent media reports indicated
Bisa dapet tapi nanti kalau 'penjual siaga' nya sudah keluar. Kayak INDF tuh, turun hayuk, naik ogah :-0 From: anru dadaq anru.s...@gmail.com To: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups..com Sent: Wednesday, 18 February 2009 3:13:33 Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ASII (TP Rp7,700) - JP Morgan: January 4W sales down 20% M/M, worse than what recent media reports indicated ya... sudah nungguin nih... kagak dikasih2 jamuran :) 2009/2/18 XXX bubbletra...@gmail.com Kalau mau jadi investor long-term..7.700 mesti buy. Turunnya penjualan ASII karena faktor ekonomi global, akan tetapi daya saing perusahaannya sendiri masih tetap yahud. Saat ekonomi pulih, saham ini jg dengan cepat akan recover. Importing contacts has never been easier..Bring your friends over to Yahoo! Mail today! http://www.trueswitch.com/yahoo-sg
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today?
Ini kok asbun aja sih. datanya dong kalau benar From: iffan.l...@gmail.com iffan.l...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:08:15 PM Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? ANTM bakal 20rb... Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® From: Baso TAHU Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:01:50 -0800 (PST) To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? - ANTM bakal 400! --- On Mon, 2/16/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com wrote: From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 9:31 PM Blom ada signal apa-apa pak, lagi akumulasi berat kayaknya.., liat aja tuh riset pada downgrade.., jd masih belum mau jalan lah..., ntar kalau udh selesai baru dikeluarin berita2 bagus. Sementara saya tunggu di 10x0.. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT From: charles2416 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:28:29 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? Prof JT, ANTM gimana yah hari ini? Last 2 days, Harga turun, Volume juga ikut nyusut. Apa artinya? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.24/1954 - Release Date: 2/15/2009 6:09 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.24/1954 - Release Date: 2/15/2009 6:09 PM Lebih bergaul dan terhubung dengan lebih baik. Tambah lebih banyak teman ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] to pak JT: HEXA
Prof JT kasih ulasan PTBA sekalian ya. salam --- Pada Rab, 18/2/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] to pak JT: HEXA Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 18 Februari, 2009, 3:41 PM Hexa - meskipun sdh naik beberapa hari, namun sampai detik ini belum ada signal reversal, baik di daily maupun di intraday. Tekanan keatas masih terlihat cukup baik, tidak terdeteksi ada heavy distribution, the only thing yg mesti diwaspadai adalah divergence negative price volume, jika anda sdh in position, pasang aja trailing stop.., next tes level 1000'an. Good Luck. JT Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT -Original Message- From: Vic-milis milis9...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:05:20 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] to pak JT: HEXA pak JT, minta analisis-nya dong untuk HEXA, apa sudah saat-nya dilepas dulu? atau akan masih menguat terus? saya juga penasaran dengan chart yang biasa pak JT buat, untuk newbie seperti saya terkagum kagum itu buat dimana pak? maksud saya ambil di mana? salam + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Pemanasan global? Apa sih itu? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! http://id.answers.yahoo.com
[obrolan-bandar] Re: to pak JT: HEXA
klo melihat RSI dan si Williams yg overbought, reward dr HEXA dah ga menarik lg untuk entry klo exit sih gpphmm, jadi inget KLBF lho hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JT jsxtra...@... wrote: Hexa - meskipun sdh naik beberapa hari, namun sampai detik ini belum ada signal reversal, baik di daily maupun di intraday. Tekanan keatas masih terlihat cukup baik, tidak terdeteksi ada heavy distribution, the only thing yg mesti diwaspadai adalah divergence negative price volume, jika anda sdh in position, pasang aja trailing stop.., next tes level 1000'an. Good Luck. JT Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT -Original Message- From: Vic-milis milis9...@... Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:05:20 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] to pak JT: HEXA pak JT, minta analisis-nya dong untuk HEXA, apa sudah saat-nya dilepas dulu? atau akan masih menguat terus? saya juga penasaran dengan chart yang biasa pak JT buat, untuk newbie seperti saya terkagum kagum itu buat dimana pak? maksud saya ambil di mana? salam + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] Re: BRPT mainnya kasar pake F (fall )
F--Falsu maksudnya :)) ...coba sekali2 datang di RUPSnya ga mutu banget, mana ada perusahaan rugi gede tapi Komutnya naik berlipat gajinya :Pga cocok buat invest tapi klo spekulasi silahkan aja --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, anru dadaq anru.s...@... wrote: fulus :) 2009/2/18 Bozz Trader powerman.tra...@... *F menurut Pak De katanya Bogor yah ..kale atau Foreign ..mengkale * * * -- *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *simon bolenang *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:15 PM *To:* obrolan-bandar yahoogroups *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] BRPT mainnya kasar pake F (fall ) Ada YJ F LS F. F artinya apa ya? Fall
[obrolan-bandar] sektor komoditas akan bangkit duluan
wuihhh...analisa n prediksinya ms. elaine manta... tepat l... give applause to ms. elaine Jakarta - Krisis finansial global saat ini telah menyerang hampir semua sektor ekonomi. Dalam masa pemulihan, sektor komoditas diprediksi akan pulih duluan dan terakhir baru manufaktur. Harga komoditas baik energi, tambang maupun perkebunan sempat berjaya pada triwulan I-2008, namun krisis global yang muncul membuat permintaan anjlok dan harga ikut terjungkal. Yang mulai duluan akan meningkat adalah komoditas, lalu mungkin juga pasar modal, disusul sektor keuangan dan jasa. Kalau manufacturing mungkin akan makan banyak waktu karena tergantung pada ekspor, kata pemilik kelompok usaha Lippo, James Riyadi. Hal itu diungkapkan James, disela-sela kuliah umum pakar ekonomi internasional Professor Dr. Steve H Hanke yang diadakan Universitas Pelita Harapan dan KADIN di Hotel Aryaduta, Jakarta, Rabu (18/2/2009). Sementara untuk sektor properti James melihat bisa menjadi fondasi untuk pemulihan ekonomi Indonesia. Meskipun saat ini permintaan rumah turun namun harga tetap tidak turun tapi tetap dicari karena kebutuhan mendasar. Pemulihan properti cukup cepat karena jangka waktunya pendek. James memperkirakan sampai setahun ini permintaan properti tertahan karena pembeli cenderung menunda pembelian tapi bukan berarti konsumen tidak membutuhkannya. Jadi pada saat kepercayaan sudah kembali lagi, ya akan terangkat lagi. Jadi kuncinya adalah confidence. Jadi pemilu juga diharapkan bisa lancar dan pemerintahan yang baru yang akan terbentuk harus bisa mengembalikan kepercayaan masyarakat, ujar James. Jika Steve H Hanke memprediksi krisis akan berlangsung selama 16 bulan sejak Desember 2007 dan pemulihan (bottom out) baru mulai kelihatan pada tengah tahun, James memprediksi dampak pemulihan baru akan terasa diakhir tahun. Pada Desember lah, cetusnya. Importing contacts has never been easier..Bring your friends over to Yahoo! Mail today! http://www.trueswitch.com/yahoo-sg
Re: [obrolan-bandar] mutasi efek dari SP
Saya hasil verifikasi saja belum dapat Pak... sediihh 2009/2/18, Marselinus Sujoko ms_joli2...@yahoo.co.id: tolong share ada gak nasabah SP yg sahamnya sudah dipindahkan ke sekuritas lain? -- Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain!
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today?
Saya kok belum denger ya ANTM mau stock split 1:3..?? Hahaha... Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Baso TAHU tahub...@... wrote: -ANTM bakal 400!
[obrolan-bandar] Re: ASII (TP Rp7,700) - JP Morgan: January 4W sales down 20% M/M, worse than what recent media reports indicated
Mereka yang pernah mengalami krismon tahun 1997-1998, tahu apa yang mesti dilakukan pada saham ini. Silahkan cek harga saham ASII pada waktu itu. Boleh tanya salah satu senior di sini, Pak Tommy Jayamudita, kalo nggak percaya. Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, XXX bubbletra...@... wrote: Kalau mau jadi investor long-term..7.700 mesti buy. Turunnya penjualan ASII karena faktor ekonomi global, akan tetapi daya saing perusahaannya sendiri masih tetap yahud. Saat ekonomi pulih, saham ini jg dengan cepat akan recover.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: THE TRUTH UNVEILED
Mbah klo ga salah JUALAN deh Jualan BAKPAO --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@... wrote: buy udah dr tadi pak, pas dalam proses hsi dr-200 sampe plus, pas sp fut plusnya tambah naik --- On Wed, 2/18/09, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@... wrote: From: Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@... Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 8:04 AM we miss your BUY word.. can you use it elaine?? pleasee... Thank You! ThomaS FredericK --- On Wed, 2/18/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@... Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 2:01 AM It's okay but not on my watchlist. Elaine On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Halim Perdana ir_r...@yahoo. com wrote: How about banking sector, elaine? From: Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:56:24 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] THE TRUTH UNVEILED SIMA, IS THIS ALL YOU CAN DO? LOL WHERE IS THE FRICKIN NUKE??? COME ON BRING IT ON, WE WILL SURELY BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YA.. Elaine On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com wrote: Elaine's 10 commandments: 1. Thou shalt buy commodities energy stocks 2. Thou shalt avoid consumer stocks 3. Thou shalt avoid gold 4. Thou shalt invest 5. The guy below is retarded 6. All bears are retarded 7. Asia vs Western Decoupling 8. Thou shalt love crises as an opportunity. 9. Thou shalt avoid worthless US dollars. 10. China Indonesia = Money Machine. Elaine On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Ratu Sima ratus...@gmail. com wrote: Aimee CAN'T see no more how slow retarded the process of conspiracy clearing within SP its alike. With how tough the market has been underway nowadays, this case MUST be tackled promptly rightly. How national stock market CAN BE further saved if the common investors are poorly protected appreciated. In the Big General's Regime, there are people above the law BUT now there should be more people en masse against them or it will continue to be Zero Sum Game. Let me be straight: This long deflationary period WON'T last too long. By the 3rd Quarter of this year, it will jump into INFLATION. This tight-preservation of interest rate of 'Wait See' Game WILL eventually blow up turn the cycle around. I have been in China for days people have started to worry about the 2000 B currency reserve put in US Treasury. When the recession is going further, the yield benefit of it is only exercised for subsidizing the Neverland's crisis. In turn, it CAN bubble inflation spread throughout the worlds. When it occurs, the world's economy can be in the lost decade. Properties, on the other hand, CAN'T be a safe-heaven as well. Yet, infrastructure development is COSTLY. Precious metals might do save but the world's economy is fixed in the Neverland's fiat currency and leave other countries paralyzed. Don't be fed up with how equity market has been on the way because the truth is 'as the way it is'. It is still miles away to go up. Meanwhile, let me recall again: Clear up soon domestic homeworks before things fall any further. Indonesia is in dire need of transitional figure who would stand up to what they believe. When times of up come along, only clear state of equity business practices can guarantee IHSG to grow along its international benchmark market. For dear investors, stick back to growth stocks, clean clean growth stocks. Never be mystified by the reborn of cyclical stock. For traders, hit run will still be ON. Ratusima, The United Kingdom of Kalingga, Java - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:obrolan-bandar- fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] mutasi efek dari SP
hari selasa kemarin saya sdh dapat hasil verifikasi,. saya cabang kedoya, kebon jeruk. Mrk anjurin pindah ke BNI securitas krn mrk mau jadi partner sama BNI. Ya udah saya ikutin saran mrk pindah tapi perlu waktu mutasi 2 - 3 hari. nanti saya kabarin kalau sudah berhasil mutasi. --- Pada Rab, 18/2/09, fuyi anip...@gmail.com menulis: Dari: fuyi anip...@gmail.com Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] mutasi efek dari SP Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 18 Februari, 2009, 5:03 PM Saya hasil verifikasi saja belum dapat Pak... sediihh 2009/2/18, Marselinus Sujoko ms_joli2005@ yahoo.co. id: tolong share ada gak nasabah SP yg sahamnya sudah dipindahkan ke sekuritas lain? Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! ___ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today?
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Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today?
Sebelum ke 20 rb, tlng tembusin 1200 dulu deh. Btw, Lap Keu Tahunan ANTM expected announce next week. May be that's why 1100 ga jebol2 :) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: iffan.l...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:58:51 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? Hehe kalo 20rb ini mah pasti bisa krn sy gak bicara time frame..baca doongg yg jelas.. Siapa bilang antm dlm x tahun ke depan gak bisa 20rb ayo ngacung? Sy cuma counter Baso Tahu yg bicara antm ke 400..balancer.. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: John Sun johnsun...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:44:39 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? Ini kok asbun aja sih. datanya dong kalau benar From: iffan.l...@gmail.com iffan.l...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:08:15 PM Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? ANTM bakal 20rb... Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® From: Baso TAHU Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:01:50 -0800 (PST) To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? - ANTM bakal 400! --- On Mon, 2/16/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com wrote: From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 9:31 PM Blom ada signal apa-apa pak, lagi akumulasi berat kayaknya.., liat aja tuh riset pada downgrade.., jd masih belum mau jalan lah..., ntar kalau udh selesai baru dikeluarin berita2 bagus. Sementara saya tunggu di 10x0.. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT From: charles2416 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:28:29 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? Prof JT, ANTM gimana yah hari ini? Last 2 days, Harga turun, Volume juga ikut nyusut. Apa artinya? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.24/1954 - Release Date: 2/15/2009 6:09 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.24/1954 - Release Date: 2/15/2009 6:09 PM Lebih bergaul dan terhubung dengan lebih baik. Tambah lebih banyak teman ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS (TP Rp3,100) - Macquarie: Funds and gas flowing into PGAS.
enak aja bilang JPY translation has no cash efek emang mau hutang JPY diangsur pake rupiah ha.ha. kalau cuman overshot satu dua bulan sih gak masalah... tapi kalau trending terus-terusan sampai lewat 3 bulan seperti ini jadi masalah. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:04 PM, simon bolenang simon_bolen...@yahoo.comwrote: Funds and gas flowing into PGAS *Event* #1048707; Our channel checks highlight upside risk to distribution volumes, early signs of LNG volumes being deployed to the domestic market, and the potential for funds to flow from ISAT into PGAS. *Impact* #1048707; *Muara Tawar power plant upgrade complete... upside risk to volumes: *Our channel checks with the operators of the Muara Tawar power plant highlight that the Muara Tawar oil to gas conversion process is complete. We understand the company is now delivering over 200 MMSCFD, and PLN is requesting the full 300 MMSCFD (vs our forecasts of 225MMSCFD). Further, we highlight that PGN is negotiating a gas sales agreement with PLN (and another third party). We see upside risk to our 2009E distribution forecast of 800 MMSCFD. #1048707; *ISAT funds to flow to PGAS? *We calculate that approximately US$600m of cash will be returned to shareholders on 5 March 2008 after the Qatar Telecom (QTEL QD, NR)/ Indosat (ISAT IJ, Rp5,700, UP, TP: Rp4,500) partial tender. We see this money flowing into TLKM (TLKM IJ, Rp6,350, OP, TP: Rp7,900) and PGAS. However, we highlight anecdotally that numerous funds have already invested up to 10% TLKM of their funds (which typically is the max limit under investment mandates). PGAS therefore should be a key beneficiary. #1048707; *LNG domestic volumes moving towards a reality? *The government this week extended the export contracts for LNG from 2011–20 but a key element to this contract was that TOTAL was required to sell 46% of its production domestically. This is consistent with our understanding that PGAS has signed a 10-year MOU with TOTAL for roughly 120 MMSCFD pa. We believe this is the first step towards the LNG receiving terminal in West Java becoming a reality. #1048707; *US$ asset... but rupiah and Yen translation risk: *We believe this company is a predominantly US$ business given the majority of its sales, costs, capex and debt are denominated in US$. However, the company reports in rupiah and thus is subject to translation losses on its US$ and Yen debt (we estimate a forex loss of Rp1.3tr for 2008) and a Yen swap (which from a cashflow perspective hedges the debt but is not considered a hedge under Indonesian accounting). We recommend investors focus on clean numbers (as the above translations have no cash effect.) #1048707; *Valuation attractive. *We believe the stock is attractively trading on PER of 7.7x, FCF yield of 6.8%, and a div yield of 6.5%, roughly a 30% discount to the sector in 2009. *Earnings revision* #1048707; No change. *Price catalyst* #1048707; 12-month price target: Rp3,100 based on a DCF methodology. #1048707; Catalyst: Increasing distribution volume and price and new gas supply agreements. *Action and recommendation* #1048707; We reiterate our Outperform recommendation and Rp3,100 price target. PGAS appears to be executing effectively as evidenced by upside risk to our volume forecasts. Further, we are encouraged by early signs that gas reserves are starting to be prioritised domestically. This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient please telephone or e-mail the sender and delete this message and all attachments from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or any attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure, error-free or virus-free. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors, omissions or consequences which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. This message is provided for informational purposes and is not intended to nor will it create any binding legal relations. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS (TP Rp3,100) - Macquarie: Funds and gas flowing into PGAS.
Wah, Pak Halim ganti alamat email. Tanda2 alam..? Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Boys n Girls boysngi...@... wrote: enak aja bilang JPY translation has no cash efek emang mau hutang JPY diangsur pake rupiah ha.ha. kalau cuman overshot satu dua bulan sih gak masalah... tapi kalau trending terus-terusan sampai lewat 3 bulan seperti ini jadi masalah.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ASII (TP Rp7,700) - JP Morgan: January 4W sales down 20% M/M, worse than what recent media reports indicated
Kondisi 97-98 beda dgn saat ini, coba refresh lagi ingatan anda apa yg terjadi pd group Astra pd saat itu. On 2/18/09, y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com wrote: Mereka yang pernah mengalami krismon tahun 1997-1998, tahu apa yang mesti dilakukan pada saham ini. Silahkan cek harga saham ASII pada waktu itu. Boleh tanya salah satu senior di sini, Pak Tommy Jayamudita, kalo nggak percaya. Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, XXX bubbletra...@... wrote: Kalau mau jadi investor long-term..7.700 mesti buy. Turunnya penjualan ASII karena faktor ekonomi global, akan tetapi daya saing perusahaannya sendiri masih tetap yahud. Saat ekonomi pulih, saham ini jg dengan cepat akan recover. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- Sent from my mobile device
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS (TP Rp3,100) - Macquarie: Funds and gas flowing into PGAS.
gak ganti...cuman adjustment aja dengan BB mencegah flooding email dari OB ha.ha 2009/2/18 y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com Wah, Pak Halim ganti alamat email. Tanda2 alam..? Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Boys n Girls boysngi...@... wrote: enak aja bilang JPY translation has no cash efek emang mau hutang JPY diangsur pake rupiah ha.ha. kalau cuman overshot satu dua bulan sih gak masalah... tapi kalau trending terus-terusan sampai lewat 3 bulan seperti ini jadi masalah.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ASII (TP Rp7,700) - JP Morgan: January 4W sales down 20% M/M, worse than what recent media reports indicated
kalau nga salah pernah sampai 800 rp saja tapi di bulan Agt 1999 sekitar 1.800 ~ 2.400 Lukman 2009/2/18 y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com Mereka yang pernah mengalami krismon tahun 1997-1998, tahu apa yang mesti dilakukan pada saham ini. Silahkan cek harga saham ASII pada waktu itu. Boleh tanya salah satu senior di sini, Pak Tommy Jayamudita, kalo nggak percaya. Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, XXX bubbletra...@... wrote: Kalau mau jadi investor long-term..7.700 mesti buy. Turunnya penjualan ASII karena faktor ekonomi global, akan tetapi daya saing perusahaannya sendiri masih tetap yahud. Saat ekonomi pulih, saham ini jg dengan cepat akan recover. -- Lukman
RE: [obrolan-bandar] mutasi efek dari SP
Sama, saya aja juga belum terima nih :-( padahal dari segerombolan yg bareng2 Cuma tinggal 3 orang yg lum terima T_T -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fuyi Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:04 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] mutasi efek dari SP Saya hasil verifikasi saja belum dapat Pak... sediihh 2009/2/18, Marselinus Sujoko ms_joli2005@ mailto:ms_joli2...@yahoo.co.id yahoo.co.id: tolong share ada gak nasabah SP yg sahamnya sudah dipindahkan ke sekuritas lain? _ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http:/mail. promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! DISCLAIMER: Any person receiving this email and any attachment(s) contained, shall treat the information as confidential and not misuse, copy, disclose, distribute or retain the information in any way that amounts to a breach of confidentiality. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete all copies of this email from your computer system. As the integrity of this message cannot be guaranteed, neither PT Bank UOB Buana Tbk (Bank UOB Buana) nor any entity in the UOB Group shall be responsible for the contents. Any opinion in this email may not necessarily represent the opinion of Bank UOB Buana or any entity in the UOB Group
Re: [obrolan-bandar] OD Upgrade TP UNTR to 6100
kalau TP cuma 6100 , tanggung ga nutup buat biaya pulsa ama intenet ama bayar ngopi nunggguin naik ...he..he --- On Wed, 2/18/09, Cumi Goreng Tepung cumie...@gmail.com wrote: From: Cumi Goreng Tepung cumie...@gmail.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] OD Upgrade TP UNTR to 6100 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 1:16 PM Hohohoho... Salam, Korban BUMI? Makan cumi saja! - Original Message - From: Danareksa Equity Research Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:01 PM Subject: United Tractors (UNTR IJ, Rp 5,750 BUY) Pama Contribution Boosts Sales United Tractors Pama Contribution Boosts Sales Higher Jan 09 sales with Pama's help UNTR was able to deliver 216 units in Jan 09. Of this, 23% were delivered to Pama. Pama usually accounts for only around 15% of the sales. UNTR said this trend of higher Pama sales will likely continue up to June 09 asPama needs to replace existing equipment and purchase new equipment to expand its capacity. Pama expects to spend $250mn on capex this year as its 09F production target has been increased by 10% yoy while its stripping ratio shows no signs of coming down (Jan 09's SR: 8.1 vs FY08's 7.5). Maintaining a Leading Position Komatsu has retained its leading position in the heavy equipment market and its market share in Jan 09 increased significantly to 51.8% from 44.6% in Dec 08. As such, we believe our target of 3,000 units for the full year is reasonable as the backlog for unit sales has reached 750 units and, in addition, we expect demand to recover in 2H09 as commodity prices stabilize. Weak Pama DEJ production due to seasonality Pama's Jan 09 coal production was weak at 4.8mn tons, 7.3% of our full year target. The weak coal production can be explained by seasonal factors as high rainfall tends to hamper production, in South Kalimantan. DEJ was only able to sell 201,000 tons of coal in Jan 09, 5% of our full year forecast. Upgrade TP to Rp6,100, maintain BUY We raise our 09-10F earnings forecasts by 17.5%-16.1% as we apply new forex, inflation, and lower tax rate assumptions to our forecasts. UNTR remains one of our top picks in the commodity sector as we like its business model and robust earnings growth (2008-10F EBITDA CAGR of 19.9% and 2009-10F ROE of 21.3%-19.3%) . Our TP implies PE09-10F of 8.5-7.9x, BUY. Felicia Barus (62-21) 351 0749 feli...@danareksa. com CONFIDENTIALITY: The information contained in or attached to this electronic transmission is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not the named recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution, copying, review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this electronic transmission or the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. The information expressed herein may contain the private views and opinions of the sender that does not constitute the formal views and opinions of PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries, and should not in any ways be construed as the views, offers, or acceptances of these entities, unless specifically stated. PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries does not take any responsibilities nor accepts any claims of liabilities and/or damages for statements which are clearly the sender's own and not made on behalf of the entities concerned.
[obrolan-bandar] Fw: MyLRI Kursus Dasar Trading dan Analisa Saham When to Entry and Exit (batch 2)
FYI.. - Forwarded Message From: JH julianti...@yahoo.com To: MyLRI my_...@yahoogroups.com; Cenayank cenayank_sa...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:24:38 PM Subject: MyLRI Kursus Dasar Trading dan Analisa Saham When to Entry and Exit (batch 2) Untuk menambah pengetahuan dan trik dalam bertransaksi di pasar modal, kami mengadakan kursus (pelatihan) : Dasar Trading dan Analisa Saham When to Entry and Exit (batch 2) 2 hari : Sabtu dan Minggu, 14-15 Maret 2009 (jam 09.00 - 16.00) Materi pelatihan : Hari 1 : 1. Pengetahuan dasar Pasar Modal dan Metode Pivot * Instrumen Pasar Modal (Saham, Rights, Waran) * Trik trading dan Cara membaca bandarmologi * Cara menggunakan Metode Pivot sebagai Support Resisten 2. Tradisional Candlestick * Pola gabungan, Support dan Resisten * Trendline dan Channel line * Support Resisten dengan Grafik Hari 2 : 1. Price dan Volume * Analisa Support dan Resisten menggunakan Pergerakan harga dan Volume. * When to Entry dan Exit, dll 2. Modern Teknikal dasar * Moving Average, Bollinger Band, MACD, RSI, Stochastic Biaya : Rp. 1.500.000,- (2 hari) Disc 15% untuk pembayaran s/d 28 Feb 2009 Disc 10% untuk pembayaran s/d 07 Maret 2009 Informasi hubungi : cenayank_saham@ yahoo.com atau mylrit...@gmail. com atau tlp 02170227545
Re: [obrolan-bandar] mari ber KEBUUUNNNN
artomoro lagi ber kebon di BEIditemani neng el .(jangan ganggu yaaa..)--- Pada Sel, 17/2/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com menulis:Dari: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comTopik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] mari ber KEBUUUKepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comTanggal: Selasa, 17 Februari, 2009, 11:32 PM YEAH Elaine On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:27 PM, er1ck er1...@gmail. com wrote: y mare mare ..siram. ..siram.. ijooo ijoo Bersenang-senang di Yahoo! Messenger dengan semua temanTambahkan mereka dari email atau jaringan sosial Anda sekarang!
Brigade 1084?...Re: [obrolan-bandar] MALAM INI PENENTUAN!
seperttinya sudah bottom tuh... masa brigade nya embah 1084 disuruh keluar lagi.. Embah...brigade 1084 masih ada atau sudah bubar jalan? --- On Wed, 2/18/09, Baso TAHU tahub...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Baso TAHU tahub...@yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MALAM INI PENENTUAN! To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 3:00 AM Malam ini penentuan utk index DOW JONES! Apa 7400 tembus? Kalo mau lihat malam nanti coba jam 3 pagi WIB. 1 Jam sebelum tutup, soalnya mirip BEI yg paling penting sejam sebelum tutup. Tapi menurut saya lihat dari TA, apalagi SP500 dan NASDAQ masih ada tenaga untuk turun. Saham komponen DOW yg juga anggota NASDAQ macam MSFT, INTC lapkeu jelek, outlook jelek, valuasi pas2an cuma sama buruknya dgn taun 2001-2002 padahal ini dekat2 depresi. Saya yakin jebol support 7400. Selama aset buruk banking nggak dihapus, nggak akan ada kepastian, mau dijual ke swasta siapa yg mau beli diharga bagus? Dan gilanya kalo aset buruk nggak dipisah mirip BPPN jaman kita dulu, aset bagus bank bakal ikut jelek. Itu masalahnya ngak ada keberanian berkorban macam rakyat Indonesia (bukan berkorban sih, bego aja kita ditipuin). Untuk Indonesia, saham2 CPO baiknya BUY ON WEAKNESS, ada aksi akumulasi di CPO futures MALAYSIA. Malah kalo terus2an kuat diharga sekarang, saham2 CPO akan rebound (kecuali UNSP) ke level tertinggi di taun 2007 (bukan 2008 ya!). Coba berapa AALI di 2007? Kuat sekali ini CPO? Padahal Corn saja belum pulih2 amat. Bottom BEI? wuih sesudah q1 keluar! Pemenang PEMILU 2009, SBY, ke-2, Prabowo ; ) said who? I got a feeling, soalnya Prabowo belanja iklan edan2an, BIGGEST LOSER, Sultan.
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] sektor komoditas akan bangkit duluan
Hehehe Jangan2 sama orangnya. :D --- Pada Rab, 18/2/09, Yanuar Mustofa yanuar.must...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: Yanuar Mustofa yanuar.must...@yahoo.com Topik: [obrolan-bandar] sektor komoditas akan bangkit duluan Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 18 Februari, 2009, 1:44 AM wuihhh...analisa n prediksinya ms. elaine manta... tepat l... give applause to ms. elaine Jakarta - Krisis finansial global saat ini telah menyerang hampir semua sektor ekonomi. Dalam masa pemulihan, sektor komoditas diprediksi akan pulih duluan dan terakhir baru manufaktur. Harga komoditas baik energi, tambang maupun perkebunan sempat berjaya pada triwulan I-2008, namun krisis global yang muncul membuat permintaan anjlok dan harga ikut terjungkal. Yang mulai duluan akan meningkat adalah komoditas, lalu mungkin juga pasar modal, disusul sektor keuangan dan jasa. Kalau manufacturing mungkin akan makan banyak waktu karena tergantung pada ekspor, kata pemilik kelompok usaha Lippo, James Riyadi. Hal itu diungkapkan James, disela-sela kuliah umum pakar ekonomi internasional Professor Dr. Steve H Hanke yang diadakan Universitas Pelita Harapan dan KADIN di Hotel Aryaduta, Jakarta, Rabu (18/2/2009). Sementara untuk sektor properti James melihat bisa menjadi fondasi untuk pemulihan ekonomi Indonesia. Meskipun saat ini permintaan rumah turun namun harga tetap tidak turun tapi tetap dicari karena kebutuhan mendasar. Pemulihan properti cukup cepat karena jangka waktunya pendek. James memperkirakan sampai setahun ini permintaan properti tertahan karena pembeli cenderung menunda pembelian tapi bukan berarti konsumen tidak membutuhkannya. Jadi pada saat kepercayaan sudah kembali lagi, ya akan terangkat lagi. Jadi kuncinya adalah confidence. Jadi pemilu juga diharapkan bisa lancar dan pemerintahan yang baru yang akan terbentuk harus bisa mengembalikan kepercayaan masyarakat, ujar James. Jika Steve H Hanke memprediksi krisis akan berlangsung selama 16 bulan sejak Desember 2007 dan pemulihan (bottom out) baru mulai kelihatan pada tengah tahun, James memprediksi dampak pemulihan baru akan terasa diakhir tahun. Pada Desember lah, cetusnya. Get your preferred Email name! Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail.com. Berbagi video sambil chatting dengan teman di Messenger. Sekarang bisa dengan Yahoo! Messenger baru. http://id.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] OD Upgrade TP UNTR to 6100
Cukup dong kalau 200 lot. Bisa ngerendem di kopi lagi. :D --- Pada Rab, 18/2/09, rudd haas rudd...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: rudd haas rudd...@yahoo.com Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] OD Upgrade TP UNTR to 6100 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Rabu, 18 Februari, 2009, 4:03 AM kalau TP cuma 6100 , tanggung ga nutup buat biaya pulsa ama intenet ama bayar ngopi nunggguin naik ...he..he --- On Wed, 2/18/09, Cumi Goreng Tepung cumie...@gmail.com wrote: From: Cumi Goreng Tepung cumie...@gmail.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] OD Upgrade TP UNTR to 6100 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 1:16 PM Hohohoho... Salam, Korban BUMI? Makan cumi saja! - Original Message - From: Danareksa Equity Research Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:01 PM Subject: United Tractors (UNTR IJ, Rp 5,750 BUY) Pama Contribution Boosts Sales United Tractors Pama Contribution Boosts Sales Higher Jan 09 sales with Pama's help UNTR was able to deliver 216 units in Jan 09. Of this, 23% were delivered to Pama. Pama usually accounts for only around 15% of the sales. UNTR said this trend of higher Pama sales will likely continue up to June 09 asPama needs to replace existing equipment and purchase new equipment to expand its capacity. Pama expects to spend $250mn on capex this year as its 09F production target has been increased by 10% yoy while its stripping ratio shows no signs of coming down (Jan 09's SR: 8.1 vs FY08's 7.5). Maintaining a Leading Position Komatsu has retained its leading position in the heavy equipment market and its market share in Jan 09 increased significantly to 51.8% from 44.6% in Dec 08. As such, we believe our target of 3,000 units for the full year is reasonable as the backlog for unit sales has reached 750 units and, in addition, we expect demand to recover in 2H09 as commodity prices stabilize. Weak Pama DEJ production due to seasonality Pama's Jan 09 coal production was weak at 4.8mn tons, 7.3% of our full year target. The weak coal production can be explained by seasonal factors as high rainfall tends to hamper production, in South Kalimantan. DEJ was only able to sell 201,000 tons of coal in Jan 09, 5% of our full year forecast. Upgrade TP to Rp6,100, maintain BUY We raise our 09-10F earnings forecasts by 17.5%-16.1% as we apply new forex, inflation, and lower tax rate assumptions to our forecasts. UNTR remains one of our top picks in the commodity sector as we like its business model and robust earnings growth (2008-10F EBITDA CAGR of 19.9% and 2009-10F ROE of 21.3%-19.3%) . Our TP implies PE09-10F of 8.5-7.9x, BUY. Felicia Barus (62-21) 351 0749 feli...@danareksa. com CONFIDENTIALITY: The information contained in or attached to this electronic transmission is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not the named recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution, copying, review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this electronic transmission or the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. The information expressed herein may contain the private views and opinions of the sender that does not constitute the formal views and opinions of PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries, and should not in any ways be construed as the views, offers, or acceptances of these entities, unless specifically stated. PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries does not take any responsibilities nor accepts any claims of liabilities and/or damages for statements which are clearly the sender's own and not made on behalf of the entities concerned. Berselancar lebih cepat dan lebih cerdas dengan Firefox 3 http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/firefox/
[obrolan-bandar] BASML INDO Strategy: positive on Indonesia + top picks (18 Feb 09)
Arief turns positive on Indonesia just as the DOW fell last night. But... calm down and read his arguments on the reports, I think you will agree Indonesia economic fundamentals actually set to improve in the coming months. His top 5 picks are in order of preference: BMRI, BDMN, ASII, INTP, and BBRI. Think positive! Shouldn't we get in now This is Indonesia. Arief in his new strategy piece has turned positive. He sees limited downside risk to IDR, more resilient than expected domestic demand, healthy banking system, and upside surprise from election in April. All these while valuations are undemanding, hence he suggests to get in ahead of the data point especially on sectors that benefit from easing policy. Downside risk to IDR should be limited given current capital account improvement. The administration has arranged for bigger standby International loan facilities (to meet U$ demand for loan repayment) and implement partial control on FX buying for speculation by residents and financial players. Stable currency offers flexible monetary and fiscal policies. Gov’t additional fiscal stimulus package, representing 1.4% of GDP, should facilitate a 4% GDP growth target in 2009 and 5.1% in 2010. Throw in aggressive rate cuts to the environment and we could see a strong domestic consumption (~ 65% of GDP) more than offsets external trade contraction. Election from April onwards could also offer upside surprise; Historically, a favorable outcome considerably boosts consumer and business confidences! His top 5 picks are in order of BMRI, BDMN, ASII, INTP, and BBRI. Early bird for the next cycle.pdf Bank Mandiri Bank Mandiri (BMRI IJ) is now Arief’s top pick out of Indonesia. He raised PO 17% to Rp 2,800 and lifts 2009-10 forecast bottom line by 12-29%. BMRI has successfully revolutionized its operation, strengthened risk management, and cleaned up loan portfolio over the last 4 years and these structural changes are set to deliver sustainable improvement in earnings and RoE. As Indonesia implements easing monetary and expansionary fiscal policies, Arief see 2009-10 earnings benefits from higher NIM, better than anticipated loan growth, and resilient economic growth hence lower loan loss provisions. Stock trades on 6.3x EPS and 1.1x P/BV '09. Arief thinks the bank worth 1.7x BV when market realize fears about relaps restructured loan in BMRI is out of place. http://research1.ml.com/C/?q=V4ruqvv8RwrltljEpgrEYA%3D%3Dr=eryado BDMN: raised PxT to Rp 4,250 Our 2nd favorite name in Indonesia as BDMN is well positioned to benefit from declining interest rate thanks to its hefty time deposits (73% of total) and high LDR (87%). Arief raised PxT by 16% to Rp4,250 to reflect: (1) a 26% increase in our 2009 earnings (we keep 2010 unchanged) and (2) a 1ppt reduction in WACC to 17% as we expect macroeconomic headwinds to decrease. On concern over its remaining F/X forward contract, we believe BDMN has made enough provisions (US$73mn) for the balance. The net notional amount of its F/X contract has declined 84% to US$230mn. Separately, Bloomberg reported BDMN plans to raise ~Rp4tn in rights issue, priced at ~45% discount. We view the pricing as attractive if done based on / below current share price given the stock is now trading at depressed 5.3x '09 P/E and 0.9x '09 P/BV, or 50% disc to our fair P/BV of 1.8x. http://research1.ml.com/C/?q=D1XJDxmNBpHltljEpgrEYA%3D%3Dr=eryado FX forecasts Our global FX team's latest view. For Indonesia, the team believes Rupiah is poised to appreciate in coming months, in light of: i) relatively resilient macro-fundamentals and greater political certainty post-parliamentary and presidential elections, ii) growth outperformance relative to the rest of Asia and scope for further expansionary fiscal and monetary policies, iii) Recent comments from the Indonesian authorities suggesting they are uncomfortable with sustained Rp weakness and reaffirmed their commitment to ‘guarding’ the Rp. EM currencies quarterly forecasts is on pg 13; We expect Rp to hit Rp10,000/US$ at Dec '09, and Rp9,700/US$ at Dec '10. Elsewhere, we are moderately positive on the dollar. The longer and more sustained the downturn in the US, the more powerful the re-balancing which simultaneously shrinks the US current account gap and supports demand for USD. That said, until the US current account imbalance is closed, the USD is vulnerable to outbreaks of risk-seeking behavior brought on by greater optimism over the economic outlook. http://research1.ml.com/C/?q=TSG8K56RyvzltljEpgrEYA%3D%3Dr=prodap US Markets DJIA -3.7%, Vol 1.6B; CCMP -4.1%, Vol 2.3B; SPX -4.5%; SOX -6.6%; DXY +1% ***Stocks crumble as a poor macro data anxiety ahead of GM Chrysler's biz plan update offset the signing of the $787B stimulus package by Prez Obama. Volumes spike higher as do volatilities w/ the VIX jumping 13% to 48.6%. All 3 indices finish on the lows while the tape turns super
[obrolan-bandar] UNTR DAN INDF
h... besok INDF kayaknya hanya mampu bekerja pada value 920 - 949 aja. Kalo UNTR bekerja pada value 5600 - 5900, tapi kalo mau nambah volume lagi maka dia akan bekerja di 5600-an... :) Disclaim Regrads
[obrolan-bandar] UNTR DAN INDF
h... besok INDF kayaknya hanya mampu bekerja pada value 920 - 940 aja. Kalo UNTR bekerja pada value 5600 - 5900, tapi kalo mau nambah volume lagi maka dia akan bekerja di 5600-an... :) Disclaim Regrads
Re: [obrolan-bandar] UNTR DAN INDF
Pak FB Terima kasih atas sharingnya. Tapi tulisan Bp maksudnya apa ya? Sy kurang mengerti isi postingan Bp. Tks Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:02:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] UNTR DAN INDF h... besok INDF kayaknya hanya mampu bekerja pada value 920 - 940 aja. Kalo UNTR bekerja pada value 5600 - 5900, tapi kalo mau nambah volume lagi maka dia akan bekerja di 5600-an... :) Disclaim Regrads
[obrolan-bandar] Re: UNTR DAN INDF
Maksudnya cuma prediksi closingnya aja boss pada angka2 itu.. Tidak bisa tepat, tapi perkiraan base on volume, sampai volume bosen/jenuh. Rgrds indeksbei3...@... wrote: Pak FB Terima kasih atas sharingnya. Tapi tulisan Bp maksudnya apa ya? Sy kurang mengerti isi postingan Bp. Tks Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@... Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:02:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] UNTR DAN INDF h... besok INDF kayaknya hanya mampu bekerja pada value 920 - 940 aja. Kalo UNTR bekerja pada value 5600 - 5900, tapi kalo mau nambah volume lagi maka dia akan bekerja di 5600-an... :) Disclaim Regrads
Re: [obrolan-bandar] UNTR DAN INDF
Mungkin maksudnya; besok indf akan bergerak di range 920-940.., kalo untr di 5600-5900.., nah kalo yg terakhir ttg volume, ane juga bingung... Hehehe... Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT -Original Message- From: indeksbei3...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:23:45 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] UNTR DAN INDF Pak FB Terima kasih atas sharingnya. Tapi tulisan Bp maksudnya apa ya? Sy kurang mengerti isi postingan Bp. Tks Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:02:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] UNTR DAN INDF h... besok INDF kayaknya hanya mampu bekerja pada value 920 - 940 aja. Kalo UNTR bekerja pada value 5600 - 5900, tapi kalo mau nambah volume lagi maka dia akan bekerja di 5600-an... :) Disclaim Regrads
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: UNTR DAN INDF
Halah.., ternyata ane salah ngerti juga, kirain ngomongin trading range, taunya closing toh, Hehe Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT -Original Message- From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:37:46 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: UNTR DAN INDF Maksudnya cuma prediksi closingnya aja boss pada angka2 itu.. Tidak bisa tepat, tapi perkiraan base on volume, sampai volume bosen/jenuh. Rgrds indeksbei3...@... wrote: Pak FB Terima kasih atas sharingnya. Tapi tulisan Bp maksudnya apa ya? Sy kurang mengerti isi postingan Bp. Tks Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@... Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:02:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] UNTR DAN INDF h... besok INDF kayaknya hanya mampu bekerja pada value 920 - 940 aja. Kalo UNTR bekerja pada value 5600 - 5900, tapi kalo mau nambah volume lagi maka dia akan bekerja di 5600-an... :) Disclaim Regrads + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[obrolan-bandar] Re: UNTR DAN INDF
Itupun kalo BDnya nggak merubah strategi dari volume base ke price base .. hehehe.. Rgrds JT jsxtra...@... wrote: Halah.., ternyata ane salah ngerti juga, kirain ngomongin trading range, taunya closing toh, Hehe Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT -Original Message- From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@... Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:37:46 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: UNTR DAN INDF Maksudnya cuma prediksi closingnya aja boss pada angka2 itu.. Tidak bisa tepat, tapi perkiraan base on volume, sampai volume bosen/jenuh. Rgrds indeksbei3000@ wrote: Pak FB Terima kasih atas sharingnya. Tapi tulisan Bp maksudnya apa ya? Sy kurang mengerti isi postingan Bp. Tks Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:02:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] UNTR DAN INDF h... besok INDF kayaknya hanya mampu bekerja pada value 920 - 940 aja. Kalo UNTR bekerja pada value 5600 - 5900, tapi kalo mau nambah volume lagi maka dia akan bekerja di 5600-an... :) Disclaim Regrads + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
[obrolan-bandar] The Last Bubble to Pop - US Treasury Bond Bubble?
The Last Bubble to Pop - US Treasury Bond Bubble? The Next Bubble Has Started To Pop The nasty problem with most investment bubbles is that they tend to keep inflating long after prudent people point out their existence. Over time, the rational folks who warn of trouble ahead lose their credibility and investors decide that we live in a new world where the old rules just don't apply. So when the pop finally comes, lots of people lose lots of money. That was the case with the Tech Bubble of the late '90s. Alan Greenspan warned of irrational exuberance in the stock market in 1997 but when the dot-com stocks just kept rising, people assumed that Greenspan and Warren Buffett were just old fogies that didn't understand the internet age. Three years later, the bubble popped and billions in wealth vaporized. The same was true of the real estate bubble that has devastated developers and speculators in the Sun Belt during the last year or two. For years, home prices just kept rising and rising long after a number of economists warned that trees never grow to the sky. Those old fogies didn't understand that with thousands of Baby Boomers retiring every day, it was impossible to have too much real estate in Las Vegas, Miami, Phoenix, San Diego or the other warm places that all the retirees wanted to move. Since most of the speculation was financed with borrowed money, that bubble popped quickly and violently and has played a major role in creating the financial crisis we are facing today. The next bubble--in U.S. Treasury notes and bonds--will be the most shocking in recent memory--not due to leverage but because investors have flooded into bond funds specifically because they are supposed to be the most conservative, low-risk investments in the world. This flight to the illusion of safety has created so much demand for U.S. Treasury debt that, despite its precarious financial condition, our government has been able to borrow money at very low rates of interest. All the conversation and reports from Washington for the last month have focused on the financial crisis and the stimulus plan that is being enacted to jump-start the economy. (By the way, am I the only one who thinks that a stimulus package sounds like something offered in the back room of a gentleman's club?--But I digress). While the pols and pundits have been silent, the financial markets are flashing huge warning signs. The price of gold has gone up by 30 percent and the U.S. government's long term cost of borrowing has gone up by almost 50 percent during the last month. The markets are coming to the conclusion that in the absence of tax increases (which are not even being considered by Republicans or Democrats), our government will pay for its multi-trillion dollar deficits, bailouts, and stimulus plans by simply printing more money. That money will be borrowed from countries and fund managers who are already demanding a higher rate of interest to cover the inflation risk they are taking by loaning trillions to an insolvent country. As rates go up, bond prices go down. Most U.S. Treasury bond funds were down about 5 percent for the year before last Friday when the popping noise increased in volume. There was an auction of 30 year treasuries on Thursday where bonds were price to yield 3.54 percent. By Friday afternoon, those bonds had lost 4 percent of their value in one day and are now priced to yield 3.70 percent. Think about that. Investors lost 4 percent of their money in one day by buying safe U.S. government bonds. Over the long holiday weekend, the news channels were full of conversation and discussion about the final version of the Stimulus Plan. Did you hear any conversation or reporting at all about the massive drop in bond and bond fund prices from any politicians or reporters? Have any of them even discussed the meaning of gold's increase from $700 to $950 an ounce in just the last few weeks? Of course not. That's because the politicians and news media have all decided that they will only discuss whether the stimulus package will work--not how we're going to pay for it. The financial markets--and the countries and funds that are financing our spending--didn't get the message. They are becoming obsessed with how we're going to pay for this and what multi-trillion dollar deficits will do the buying power of the dollar in years to come. Our creditors will continue to demand--and get--higher interest rates from us going forward. As treasury bond yields go up, bond and bond fund prices will plummet. Earlier this month I wrote (It's Time To Own Stocks and Stuff - Feb. 5) that it is time to invest in hard assets and solid companies with strong balance sheets and pricing power. Investors should set aside the cash they'll need over the next couple years plus whatever else they are willing to invest for zero return to enable them to sleep at night. The rest of it should go
RE: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 )
Pak JT blom ngambil BBCA yahh? tadi khan dikasih tuuh di 2450. saya siih udah mungut2 dikit2 pak. udah masuk range beli. Tapi klo dikasi di 2400 siih beli lagi. sepertinya siih bakalan dikasih kali. Btw.Pak JT, postingan Pak Tasrul mengenai training tanggal 14-15 maret nanti, Pak JT jadi pembicara juga yahh?? Sm;)e From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:15 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 ) kalau ngincer bmri kemarin wkt tes gap napa gak masuk? kalau sekarang sih tunggu close diatas 1740 deh. ASII kemarin juga test gap 10800...lari lagi tuh..., berikutnya yg ada gap BBCA.., coba aja ntar kita liat,di tes ngga.. JsxTrader.com _ From: Yanuar Mustofa yanuar.must...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:53:30 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 ) bmri rada aneh nich..lap keunya blm keluar2... tapi TP tiap broker diatas 2300-an apa karena lap keunya bagus yaaa..makanya blm dimuncul2in..atau malah jelek.. tp menurut terawangan gw sich bagus...katrena akan katrol sektor banking nanti.. pak JT...udah boleh mulai collect gak nehklo diliat dr sisi volume thnks again to prof JT _ From: simon bolenang simon_bolen...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar yahoogroups obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; saham yahoogroups sa...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 18 February 2009 12:07:58 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 ) Bank Mandiri Bank Mandiri (BMRI IJ) is now Arief?s top pick out of Indonesia. He raised PO 17% to Rp 2,800 and lifts 2009-10 forecast bottom line by 12-29%. BMRI has successfully revolutionized its operation, strengthened risk management, and cleaned up loan portfolio over the last 4 years and these structural changes are set to deliver sustainable improvement in earnings and RoE. As Indonesia implements easing monetary and expansionary fiscal policies, Arief see 2009-10 earnings benefits from higher NIM, better than anticipated loan growth, and resilient economic growth hence lower loan loss provisions. Stock trades on 6.3x EPS and 1.1x P/BV '09. Arief thinks the bank worth 1.7x BV when market realize fears about relaps restructured loan in BMRI is out of place. http://research1.ml.com/C/?q=V4ruqvv8RwrltljEpgrEYA%3D%3Dr=eryado http://research1. ml.com/C/ ?q= V4ruqvv8RwrltljEpgr EYA%3D%3D r=eryado _ Get your preferred Email name! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/sg/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http:/mail.prom otions.yahoo.com/newdomains/sg/ Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail.com. image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: UNTR DAN INDF
Waduh ane tambah bingung ni.., maksudnya strategy volume base vs price base gimana tuh pak? Adv pls... Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT -Original Message- From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:59:59 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: UNTR DAN INDF Itupun kalo BDnya nggak merubah strategi dari volume base ke price base .. hehehe.. Rgrds JT jsxtra...@... wrote: Halah.., ternyata ane salah ngerti juga, kirain ngomongin trading range, taunya closing toh, Hehe Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT -Original Message- From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@... Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:37:46 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: UNTR DAN INDF Maksudnya cuma prediksi closingnya aja boss pada angka2 itu.. Tidak bisa tepat, tapi perkiraan base on volume, sampai volume bosen/jenuh. Rgrds indeksbei3000@ wrote: Pak FB Terima kasih atas sharingnya. Tapi tulisan Bp maksudnya apa ya? Sy kurang mengerti isi postingan Bp. Tks Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:02:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] UNTR DAN INDF h... besok INDF kayaknya hanya mampu bekerja pada value 920 - 940 aja. Kalo UNTR bekerja pada value 5600 - 5900, tapi kalo mau nambah volume lagi maka dia akan bekerja di 5600-an... :) Disclaim Regrads + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [obrolan-bandar] OD Upgrade TP UNTR to 6100
Klo OD = Over Dosis, ML dan BJ apaan donk??? Hahahhaahhaahaa... Sm;)e From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aria Bela Nusa Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:18 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] OD Upgrade TP UNTR to 6100 Importance: High OD = Over-dosis... Hohohoho... Salam, Korban BUMI? Makan cumi saja! - Original Message - *From:* Danareksa Equity Researche...@danareksa.com mailto:eqr%40danareksa.com *Sent:* Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:01 PM *Subject:* United Tractors (UNTR IJ, Rp 5,750 BUY) Pama Contribution Boosts Sales *United Tractors* Pama Contribution Boosts Sales *Higher Jan 09 sales with Pama's help* UNTR was able to deliver 216 units in Jan 09. Of this, 23% were delivered to Pama. Pama usually accounts for only around 15% of the sales. UNTR said this trend of higher Pama sales will likely continue up to June 09 asPama needs to replace existing equipment and purchase new equipment to expand its capacity. Pama expects to spend $250mn on capex this year as its 09F production target has been increased by 10% yoy while its stripping ratio shows no signs of coming down (Jan 09's SR: 8.1 vs FY08's 7.5). *Maintaining a Leading Position* Komatsu has retained its leading position in the heavy equipment market and its market share in Jan 09 increased significantly to 51.8% from 44.6% in Dec 08. As such, we believe our target of 3,000 units for the full year is reasonable as the backlog for unit sales has reached 750 units and, in addition, we expect demand to recover in 2H09 as commodity prices stabilize. *Weak Pama DEJ production due to seasonality* Pama's Jan 09 coal production was weak at 4.8mn tons, 7.3% of our full year target. The weak coal production can be explained by seasonal factors as high rainfall tends to hamper production, in South Kalimantan. DEJ was only able to sell 201,000 tons of coal in Jan 09, 5% of our full year forecast. * * *Upgrade TP to Rp6,100, maintain BUY* We raise our 09-10F earnings forecasts by 17.5%-16.1% as we apply new forex, inflation, and lower tax rate assumptions to our forecasts. UNTR remains one of our top picks in the commodity sector as we like its business model and robust earnings growth (2008-10F EBITDA CAGR of 19.9% and 2009-10F ROE of 21.3%-19.3%). Our TP implies PE09-10F of 8.5-7.9x, BUY. *Felicia Barus*** (62-21) 351 0749 feli...@danareksa.com mailto:felicia%40danareksa.com CONFIDENTIALITY: The information contained in or attached to this electronic transmission is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not the named recipient, you are hereby notified that any distribution, copying, review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this electronic transmission or the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. The information expressed herein may contain the private views and opinions of the sender that does not constitute the formal views and opinions of PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries, and should not in any ways be construed as the views, offers, or acceptances of these entities, unless specifically stated. PT. Danareksa (Persero) and its subsidiaries does not take any responsibilities nor accepts any claims of liabilities and/or damages for statements which are clearly the sender's own and not made on behalf of the entities concerned. image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 )
Belum.., td nawarnya kemurahan, Abis kirain mau dipentoeng dulu ke 2400, taunya gak dikasih..., hehe.. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT -Original Message- From: rad10 ru54k tv.k...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:04:33 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 ) Pak JT blom ngambil BBCA yahh? tadi khan dikasih tuuh di 2450. saya siih udah mungut2 dikit2 pak. udah masuk range beli. Tapi klo dikasi di 2400 siih beli lagi. sepertinya siih bakalan dikasih kali. Btw.Pak JT, postingan Pak Tasrul mengenai training tanggal 14-15 maret nanti, Pak JT jadi pembicara juga yahh?? Sm;)e From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:15 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 ) kalau ngincer bmri kemarin wkt tes gap napa gak masuk? kalau sekarang sih tunggu close diatas 1740 deh. ASII kemarin juga test gap 10800...lari lagi tuh..., berikutnya yg ada gap BBCA.., coba aja ntar kita liat,di tes ngga.. JsxTrader.com _ From: Yanuar Mustofa yanuar.must...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:53:30 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 ) bmri rada aneh nich..lap keunya blm keluar2... tapi TP tiap broker diatas 2300-an apa karena lap keunya bagus yaaa..makanya blm dimuncul2in..atau malah jelek.. tp menurut terawangan gw sich bagus...katrena akan katrol sektor banking nanti.. pak JT...udah boleh mulai collect gak nehklo diliat dr sisi volume thnks again to prof JT _ From: simon bolenang simon_bolen...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar yahoogroups obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; saham yahoogroups sa...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 18 February 2009 12:07:58 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 ) Bank Mandiri Bank Mandiri (BMRI IJ) is now Arief?s top pick out of Indonesia. He raised PO 17% to Rp 2,800 and lifts 2009-10 forecast bottom line by 12-29%. BMRI has successfully revolutionized its operation, strengthened risk management, and cleaned up loan portfolio over the last 4 years and these structural changes are set to deliver sustainable improvement in earnings and RoE. As Indonesia implements easing monetary and expansionary fiscal policies, Arief see 2009-10 earnings benefits from higher NIM, better than anticipated loan growth, and resilient economic growth hence lower loan loss provisions. Stock trades on 6.3x EPS and 1.1x P/BV '09. Arief thinks the bank worth 1.7x BV when market realize fears about relaps restructured loan in BMRI is out of place. http://research1.ml.com/C/?q=V4ruqvv8RwrltljEpgrEYA%3D%3Dr=eryado http://research1. ml.com/C/ ?q= V4ruqvv8RwrltljEpgr EYA%3D%3D r=eryado _ Get your preferred Email name! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/sg/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http:/mail.prom otions.yahoo.com/newdomains/sg/ Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail.com.
[obrolan-bandar] Re: UNTR DAN INDF
Walah Pak JT pasti sudah lebih tau, bedanya tipis euy,... kalo produk menarik biasanya volume makin up, mainkan lagi volume, harga naik, masih dibeli, naik lagi, masih dibeli, naik, msh dibeli, mulai jenuh..turun dikit2 sampai optimum, ...ada semacam tekanan beli. Agak jenuh kasih daya tarik, harga naik pelan2.. bermain di harga dan vol kira2...hehehe. Gak tau bener apa salah. Tapi kalo harus ngitung dg on volume balance sering tidak tepat. Jadi by perasaan :) Rgrds JT jsxtra...@... wrote: Waduh ane tambah bingung ni.., maksudnya strategy volume base vs price base gimana tuh pak? Adv pls... Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT -Original Message- From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenz...@... Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:59:59 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: UNTR DAN INDF Itupun kalo BDnya nggak merubah strategi dari volume base ke price base .. hehehe.. Rgrds JT jsxtrader@ wrote: Halah.., ternyata ane salah ngerti juga, kirain ngomongin trading range, taunya closing toh, Hehe Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT -Original Message- From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:37:46 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: UNTR DAN INDF Maksudnya cuma prediksi closingnya aja boss pada angka2 itu.. Tidak bisa tepat, tapi perkiraan base on volume, sampai volume bosen/jenuh. Rgrds indeksbei3000@ wrote: Pak FB Terima kasih atas sharingnya. Tapi tulisan Bp maksudnya apa ya? Sy kurang mengerti isi postingan Bp. Tks Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@ Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:02:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] UNTR DAN INDF h... besok INDF kayaknya hanya mampu bekerja pada value 920 - 940 aja. Kalo UNTR bekerja pada value 5600 - 5900, tapi kalo mau nambah volume lagi maka dia akan bekerja di 5600-an... :) Disclaim Regrads + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ASII (TP Rp7,700) - JP Morgan: January 4W sales down 20% M/M, worse than what recent media reports indicated
bukannya kmrn dah kejadian jg low asii 29/10/2008 ada di 6600 trs skrg close 10950 hehehe correct me if i'm wrong thx regards --- On Wed, 2/18/09, y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com wrote: From: y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ASII (TP Rp7,700) - JP Morgan: January 4W sales down 20% M/M, worse than what recent media reports indicated To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 5:35 AM Mereka yang pernah mengalami krismon tahun 1997-1998, tahu apa yang mesti dilakukan pada saham ini. Silahkan cek harga saham ASII pada waktu itu. Boleh tanya salah satu senior di sini, Pak Tommy Jayamudita, kalo nggak percaya. Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, XXX bubbletrader@ ... wrote: Kalau mau jadi investor long-term..7. 700 mesti buy. Turunnya penjualan ASII karena faktor ekonomi global, akan tetapi daya saing perusahaannya sendiri masih tetap yahud. Saat ekonomi pulih, saham ini jg dengan cepat akan recover.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BASML INDO Strategy: positive on Indonesia + top picks (18 Feb 09)
wow finally someone in Merrill Lynch is thinking positive..hehe...good job for being positive to our own nation. From: Joe Grunk joe_gr...@yahoo.com To: sa...@yahoogroups.com; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:47:38 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BASML INDO Strategy: positive on Indonesia + top picks (18 Feb 09) Arief turns positive on Indonesia just as the DOW fell last night. But... calm down and read his arguments on the reports, I think you will agree Indonesia economic fundamentals actually set to improve in the coming months. His top 5 picks are in order of preference: BMRI, BDMN, ASII, INTP, and BBRI. Think positive! Shouldn't we get in now This is Indonesia. Arief in his new strategy piece has turned positive. He sees limited downside risk to IDR, more resilient than expected domestic demand, healthy banking system, and upside surprise from election in April. All these while valuations are undemanding, hence he suggests to get in ahead of the data point especially on sectors that benefit from easing policy. Downside risk to IDR should be limited given current capital account improvement. The administration has arranged for bigger standby International loan facilities (to meet U$ demand for loan repayment) and implement partial control on FX buying for speculation by residents and financial players. Stable currency offers flexible monetary and fiscal policies. Gov’t additional fiscal stimulus package, representing 1.4% of GDP, should facilitate a 4% GDP growth target in 2009 and 5.1% in 2010. Throw in aggressive rate cuts to the environment and we could see a strong domestic consumption (~ 65% of GDP) more than offsets external trade contraction. Election from April onwards could also offer upside surprise; Historically, a favorable outcome considerably boosts consumer and business confidences! His top 5 picks are in order of BMRI, BDMN, ASII, INTP, and BBRI. Early bird for the next cycle.pdf Bank Mandiri Bank Mandiri (BMRI IJ) is now Arief’s top pick out of Indonesia. He raised PO 17% to Rp 2,800 and lifts 2009-10 forecast bottom line by 12-29%. BMRI has successfully revolutionized its operation, strengthened risk management, and cleaned up loan portfolio over the last 4 years and these structural changes are set to deliver sustainable improvement in earnings and RoE. As Indonesia implements easing monetary and expansionary fiscal policies, Arief see 2009-10 earnings benefits from higher NIM, better than anticipated loan growth, and resilient economic growth hence lower loan loss provisions. Stock trades on 6.3x EPS and 1.1x P/BV '09. Arief thinks the bank worth 1.7x BV when market realize fears about relaps restructured loan in BMRI is out of place. http://research1. ml.com/C/ ?q= V4ruqvv8RwrltljEpgr EYA%3D%3D r=eryado BDMN: raised PxT to Rp 4,250 Our 2nd favorite name in Indonesia as BDMN is well positioned to benefit from declining interest rate thanks to its hefty time deposits (73% of total) and high LDR (87%). Arief raised PxT by 16% to Rp4,250to reflect: (1) a 26% increase in our 2009 earnings (we keep 2010 unchanged) and (2) a 1ppt reduction in WACC to 17% as we expect macroeconomic headwinds to decrease. On concern over its remaining F/X forward contract, we believe BDMN has made enough provisions (US$73mn) for the balance. The net notional amount of its F/X contract has declined 84% to US$230mn. Separately, Bloomberg reported BDMN plans to raise ~Rp4tn in rights issue, priced at ~45% discount. We view the pricing as attractive if done based on / below current share price given the stock is now trading at depressed 5.3x '09 P/E and 0.9x '09 P/BV, or 50% disc to our fair P/BV of 1.8x. http://research1. ml.com/C/ ?q= D1XJDxmNBpHltljEpgr EYA%3D%3D r=eryado FX forecasts Our global FX team's latest view. For Indonesia, the team believes Rupiah is poised to appreciate in coming months, in light of: i) relatively resilient macro-fundamentals and greater political certainty post-parliamentary and presidential elections, ii) growth outperformance relative to the rest of Asia and scope for further expansionary fiscal and monetary policies, iii) Recent comments from the Indonesian authorities suggesting they are uncomfortable with sustained Rp weakness and reaffirmed their commitment to ‘guarding’ the Rp. EM currencies quarterly forecasts is on pg 13; We expect Rp to hit Rp10,000/US$ at Dec '09, and Rp9,700/US$ at Dec '10. Elsewhere, we are moderately positive on the dollar. The longer and more sustained the downturn in the US, the more powerful the re-balancing which simultaneously shrinks the US current account gap and supports demand for USD. That said, until the US current account imbalance is closed, the USD is vulnerable to outbreaks of risk-seeking behavior brought on by greater optimism over the economic outlook. http://research1. ml.com/C/ ?q= TSG8K56RyvzltljEpgr EYA%3D%3D
RE: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 )
Oh….kirain td dah sempat mungut… Tadinya siih sy juga mau ngantri di 2400 or 2425, tapi takutnya di toel doank… Klo di toel doank gak mungkin dapat.. yah udah lah 2450 jua udah murah. Hehee…. Klo 2400 dijebolin, next support di berapa pak?? From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JT Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 11:20 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 ) Belum.., td nawarnya kemurahan, Abis kirain mau dipentoeng dulu ke 2400, taunya gak dikasih..., hehe.. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT _ From: rad10 ru54k Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:04:33 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 ) Pak JT blom ngambil BBCA yahh? tadi khan dikasih tuuh di 2450. saya siih udah mungut2 dikit2 pak… udah masuk range beli. Tapi klo dikasi di 2400 siih beli lagi… sepertinya siih bakalan dikasih kali… Btw…Pak JT, postingan Pak Tasrul mengenai training tanggal 14-15 maret nanti, Pak JT jadi pembicara juga yahh?? Sm;)e From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:15 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 ) kalau ngincer bmri kemarin wkt tes gap napa gak masuk? kalau sekarang sih tunggu close diatas 1740 deh. ASII kemarin juga test gap 10800...lari lagi tuh..., berikutnya yg ada gap BBCA.., coba aja ntar kita liat,di tes ngga.. JsxTrader.com _ From: Yanuar Mustofa yanuar.must...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:53:30 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 ) bmri rada aneh nich..lap keunya blm keluar2... tapi TP tiap broker diatas 2300-an apa karena lap keunya bagus yaaa..makanya blm dimuncul2in..atau malah jelek.. tp menurut terawangan gw sich bagus...katrena akan katrol sektor banking nanti.. pak JT...udah boleh mulai collect gak nehklo diliat dr sisi volume thnks again to prof JT _ From: simon bolenang simon_bolen...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar yahoogroups obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; saham yahoogroups sa...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 18 February 2009 12:07:58 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BMRI Tp 1.7 x BV ( Rp 2650 ) Bank Mandiri Bank Mandiri (BMRI IJ) is now Arief’s top pick out of Indonesia. He raised PO 17% to Rp 2,800 and lifts 2009-10 forecast bottom line by 12-29%. BMRI has successfully revolutionized its operation, strengthened risk management, and cleaned up loan portfolio over the last 4 years and these structural changes are set to deliver sustainable improvement in earnings and RoE. As Indonesia implements easing monetary and expansionary fiscal policies, Arief see 2009-10 earnings benefits from higher NIM, better than anticipated loan growth, and resilient economic growth hence lower loan loss provisions. Stock trades on 6.3x EPS and 1.1x P/BV '09. Arief thinks the bank worth 1.7x BV when market realize fears about relaps restructured loan in BMRI is out of place. http://research1.ml.com/C/?q=V4ruqvv8RwrltljEpgrEYA%3D%3Dr=eryado http://research1. ml.com/C/ ?q= V4ruqvv8RwrltljEpgr EYA%3D%3D r=eryado _ Get your preferred Email name! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/sg/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http:/mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/sg/ Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail.com. image001.jpgimage002.jpg
Re: [obrolan-bandar] mutasi efek dari SP
taunya udah terima ato belon dari mana ya? masih pasrah mode nih. mudah2an pas bisa transfer bdmn udah 3000 lagi. -toto- On 2/18/09, Steven Sanjaya stevensanj...@uobbuana.com wrote: Sama, saya aja juga belum terima nih :-( padahal dari segerombolan yg bareng2 Cuma tinggal 3 orang yg lum terima T_T -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fuyi Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:04 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] mutasi efek dari SP Saya hasil verifikasi saja belum dapat Pak... sediihh 2009/2/18, Marselinus Sujoko ms_joli2005@ mailto:ms_joli2...@yahoo.co.id yahoo.co.id: tolong share ada gak nasabah SP yg sahamnya sudah dipindahkan ke sekuritas lain? _ Dapatkan alamat Email baru Anda! http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/mail/domainchoice/mail/signature/*http:/mail. promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/ Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan sebelum diambil orang lain! DISCLAIMER: Any person receiving this email and any attachment(s) contained, shall treat the information as confidential and not misuse, copy, disclose, distribute or retain the information in any way that amounts to a breach of confidentiality. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete all copies of this email from your computer system. As the integrity of this message cannot be guaranteed, neither PT Bank UOB Buana Tbk (Bank UOB Buana) nor any entity in the UOB Group shall be responsible for the contents. Any opinion in this email may not necessarily represent the opinion of Bank UOB Buana or any entity in the UOB Group -- Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] mari ber KEBUUUNNNN
hmin gak dimasukin itungan ... Om Arto jahat :(( 2009/2/18 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id artomoro lagi ber kebon di BEI ditemani neng el . (jangan ganggu yaaa..) --- Pada *Sel, 17/2/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] mari ber KEBUUU Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Selasa, 17 Februari, 2009, 11:32 PM *YEAH Elaine** * On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:27 PM, er1ck er1...@gmail. comer1...@gmail.com wrote: y mare mare ..siram. ..siram.. ijooo ijoo -- Bersenang-senang di Yahoo! Messenger dengan semua temanhttp://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/trueswitch/mailtagline/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Tambahkan mereka dari email atau jaringan sosial Anda sekarang! 360.gif
[obrolan-bandar] Re: UNTR DAN INDF
Pak JT, kalo volume based perhitungan tarifnya per KB, tapi kalo time based ngitungnya per menit. Hahaha... Enyong juga tambah mumet... Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JT jsxtra...@... wrote: Waduh ane tambah bingung ni.., maksudnya strategy volume base vs price base gimana tuh pak? Adv pls... Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT
Re: [obrolan-bandar] mari ber KEBUUUNNNN
Kalo berkebun nanamnya di mana hayooo? Pasti di BU. Tralala trilili ... Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:28:39 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] mari ber KEBUUU artomoro lagi ber kebon di BEI ditemani neng el . (jangan ganggu yaaa..) --- Pada Sel, 17/2/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com menulis: Dari: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] mari ber KEBUUU Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Selasa, 17 Februari, 2009, 11:32 PM YEAH Elaine On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:27 PM, er1ck er1...@gmail. com wrote: y mare mare ..siram. ..siram.. ijooo ijoo Lebih bergaul dan terhubung dengan lebih baik. Tambah lebih banyak teman ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[obrolan-bandar] Feb lowest in 09
Beberapa analis dll bilang feb merupakan llowest in 2009. Hope so dah
[obrolan-bandar] Ratio right issue bdmn
Pagi ini di kontan ada prospektus RI danamon.tiap 100 saham reguler berhak atas 68 saham right seharga 1.200. Ada yg tahu perhitungannya brp lembar saham reg yg harus kita punya utk berhak atas 1 lot ri...@1.200? Thx Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Feb lowest in 09
nah lho jadi gak indeks ke 1000 ?? Dario Amran --- Pada Kam, 19/2/09, Kidod25 kido...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: Kidod25 kido...@yahoo.com Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Feb lowest in 09 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Kamis, 19 Februari, 2009, 6:47 AM Beberapa analis dll bilang feb merupakan llowest in 2009. Hope so dah Selalu bersama teman-teman di Yahoo! Messenger. Tambahkan mereka dari email atau jaringan sosial Anda sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[obrolan-bandar] ISAT
ISAT dari desember akhir sampai kemaren harga begitu2 aja rangenya (5450-6000), memang kaitannya dengan adanya TO, berhubung tanggal 18 febuari kemaren akhir dari pendaftarannya, selanjutnya ini harga mau kemana? Volume sepi terus, jarak TO sama harga reguler jauh banget 5500 ke 7333. Ada strategi khusus tentang ini saham? feeling pengennya beli. Dario Amran Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feb lowest in 09
Tapi den BEI masih ada GAP di bawah nih. Tutup GAP dulu kali yah.. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: Kidod25 kido...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:47:20 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Feb lowest in 09 Beberapa analis dll bilang feb merupakan llowest in 2009. Hope so dah
Re: [obrolan-bandar] mari ber KEBUUUNNNN
komentarnya beda? disesuaikan nama atau the other side of hmin? :) 2009/2/19 Boys n Girls boysngi...@gmail.com hmin gak dimasukin itungan ... Om Arto jahat :(( 2009/2/18 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id artomoro lagi ber kebon di BEI ditemani neng el . (jangan ganggu yaaa..) --- Pada *Sel, 17/2/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com* menulis: Dari: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] mari ber KEBUUU Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Selasa, 17 Februari, 2009, 11:32 PM *YEAH Elaine** * On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 2:27 PM, er1ck er1...@gmail. comer1...@gmail.com wrote: y mare mare ..siram. ..siram.. ijooo ijoo -- Bersenang-senang di Yahoo! Messenger dengan semua temanhttp://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/messenger/trueswitch/mailtagline/*http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ Tambahkan mereka dari email atau jaringan sosial Anda sekarang! 360.gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feb lowest in 09
semoga pa Kidod, btw, analis mana saja ya diketahui? 2009/2/19 Kidod25 kido...@yahoo.com Beberapa analis dll bilang feb merupakan llowest in 2009. Hope so dah
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: UNTR DAN INDF
iya, ilmunya dari mana pa FB? ada buku tertentu? 2009/2/19 y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com Pak JT, kalo volume based perhitungan tarifnya per KB, tapi kalo time based ngitungnya per menit. Hahaha... Enyong juga tambah mumet... Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, JT jsxtra...@... wrote: Waduh ane tambah bingung ni.., maksudnya strategy volume base vs price base gimana tuh pak? Adv pls... Sent from my BlackBerry(R) powered by ISAT
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ISAT
bener Pak Dario. harganya manteng di segitu-gitu ajah ;) On 2/19/09, dario kurniawan darioamran1...@yahoo.co.id wrote: ISAT dari desember akhir sampai kemaren harga begitu2 aja rangenya (5450-6000), memang kaitannya dengan adanya TO, berhubung tanggal 18 febuari kemaren akhir dari pendaftarannya, selanjutnya ini harga mau kemana? Volume sepi terus, jarak TO sama harga reguler jauh banget 5500 ke 7333. Ada strategi khusus tentang ini saham? feeling pengennya beli. Dario Amran -- Berselancar lebih cepat dan lebih cerdas dengan Firefox 3http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/search/firefox/mail/signature/*http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/firefox/!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feb lowest in 09
Hushh... Jangan ingetin dong! Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: indeksbei3...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:05:57 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Feb lowest in 09 Tapi den BEI masih ada GAP di bawah nih. Tutup GAP dulu kali yah.. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: Kidod25 kido...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 23:47:20 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Feb lowest in 09 Beberapa analis dll bilang feb merupakan llowest in 2009. Hope so dah
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Feb lowest in 09
sudahlah... apa ihsg ngga cape turun terus saatnya bangkit biar mbah yang jadi leadernya bukan begitu mbah ? hehehe... From: dario kurniawan darioamran1...@yahoo.co.id To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:38:55 AM Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Feb lowest in 09 nah lho jadi gak indeks ke 1000 ?? Dario Amran --- Pada Kam, 19/2/09, Kidod25 kido...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: Kidod25 kido...@yahoo. com Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Feb lowest in 09 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Kamis, 19 Februari, 2009, 6:47 AM Beberapa analis dll bilang feb merupakan llowest in 2009. Hope so dah Selalu bersama teman-teman di Yahoo! Messenger Tambahkan mereka dari email atau jaringan sosial Anda sekarang!
[obrolan-bandar] Index sectoral Finance
Index sectoral Finance Gerakan saham bank sangat menentukan arah IHSG bulan ini http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwlfina.htm
[obrolan-bandar] DJIA for today
Hitting resistance, they didn't let it go over the line. http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4784/djiaca1.gif
[obrolan-bandar] DOW - Double Bottom dengan Reversal Signal
DOW Double Bottom dengan Reversal Signal 19 Februari 2009 (08:40 wib) Peluang untuk rebound men jadi semakin besar dengan terhentinya penurunan pada hari kemarin di level 7450. Jika rebound terjadi, ini berarti membentuk double bottom. Kondisi ini dibarenri juga dengan munculnya rebound signal dua hari yang lalu yang menunjukkan kemarin adalah saatnya bottom. Maka, kesempatan ini harus digunakan dengan sebaik-baiknya. Karena diharapkan ini akan memengaruhi IHSG, ini adalah saatnya masuk pasar pada saham-saham favorit kita. Dan cut loss dapat dilakukan tidak terlalu besar karena jika DOW masih turun, tidak usah diragukan supportnya telah tertembus karena seharusnya ia sudah di bottom. Resistance atau target kenaikan adalah di level 7700 atau bahkan diharapkan di 8000. Support masih di 7450. Click at thumbnail to get larger view Tulisan di atas bukanlah suatu rekomendasi beli atau jual, melainkan suatu petunjuk untuk menginterpretasikan indikator tertentu. Informasi di atas seharusnya digunakan hanya oleh investor yang memahami resiko dalam trading saham, komoditi mau pun forex. Kami tidak bertanggung jawab atas kerugian apa pun yang disebabkan oleh penggunaan tulisan di atas. Pada tanggal 7 Maret 2009, PT Bumianyar Futuria akan mengadakan kursus Swing Trading Angkatan ke II Info lebih lanjut: http://www.bumianyar.com/SwingTradingCourse.htm DOW090218s.PNGAngeloMichelS.jpg
RE: [obrolan-bandar] DJIA for today
Artinya masih bahaya pak? Best regards, Budi Raharjo www.kinggeneraltrading.blogspot.com From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tirta858 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:24 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] DJIA for today Hitting resistance, they didn't let it go over the line. http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4784/djiaca1.gif
[obrolan-bandar] ASII
Pola Double top kecil pada ASII harga menuju target bawah di 10.000 nyampe gak ya ??? sebelumnya pola ascending gagal. break out ke bawah. berikut gambar ASII thx Hans Tulisan di atas bukanlah suatu rekomendasi beli atau jual, melainkan suatu petunjuk untuk menginterpretasikan sebuah pola atau indikator tertentu. Informasi di atas seharusnya digunakan hanya oleh investor yang memahami resiko dalam trading saham, komoditi mau pun forex. Kami tidak bertanggung jawab atas kerugian apa pun yang disebabkan oleh penggunaan tulisan di atas. attachment: ASII 19 Feb 2009.png
[obrolan-bandar] BBCA
Pola Descending di BBCA mampukah BBCA turun ke target di 2400. sasaran tembah. sebelumnya pola ascending gagal mencapai target. berikut gambar BBCA thx Hans Tulisan di atas bukanlah suatu rekomendasi beli atau jual, melainkan suatu petunjuk untuk menginterpretasikan sebuah pola atau indikator tertentu. Informasi di atas seharusnya digunakan hanya oleh investor yang memahami resiko dalam trading saham, komoditi mau pun forex. Kami tidak bertanggung jawab atas kerugian apa pun yang disebabkan oleh penggunaan tulisan di atas attachment: BBCA 19 Feb 2009.png
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ASII (TP Rp7,700) - JP Morgan: January 4W sales down 20% M/M, worse than what recent media reports indicated
Tolong dikasih tau donk.. Karena ga semua disini pemain lama.. Saya ga tau apa yang terjadi.. Saya tau akhirnya si rebound juga setelah bertahun2.. Apa ada ganti pemegang saham pada krisis? Saya ga tau.. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: Dodi H freaker2...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:48:33 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ASII (TP Rp7,700) - JP Morgan: January 4W sales down 20% M/M, worse than what recent media reports indicated Kondisi 97-98 beda dgn saat ini, coba refresh lagi ingatan anda apa yg terjadi pd group Astra pd saat itu. On 2/18/09, y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com wrote: Mereka yang pernah mengalami krismon tahun 1997-1998, tahu apa yang mesti dilakukan pada saham ini. Silahkan cek harga saham ASII pada waktu itu. Boleh tanya salah satu senior di sini, Pak Tommy Jayamudita, kalo nggak percaya. Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, XXX bubbletra...@... wrote: Kalau mau jadi investor long-term..7.700 mesti buy. Turunnya penjualan ASII karena faktor ekonomi global, akan tetapi daya saing perusahaannya sendiri masih tetap yahud. Saat ekonomi pulih, saham ini jg dengan cepat akan recover. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links -- Sent from my mobile device
[obrolan-bandar] IHSG Today - Jika Rebound Berlanjut, Downtrend Akan Ditembus!
IHSG Today Jika Rebound Berlanjut, Downtrend Akan Ditembus! 19 Februari 2009 (09:05 wib) Indeks berada pada saat-saat menentukan sehubungan dengan konfirmasi rebound. Garis downtrend masih menahan Indeks, namun posisi pun sudah pada support sehingga rebound terjadi. Kini, kenaikan indeks tertahan oleh downtrendnya. Jika kenaikan berlanjut, downtrend dapat ditembus yang dapat menjadi awal uptrend. Apalagi jika volume yang terbentuk melonjak ke atas rata-rata, kenaikan bisa melejit. Kondisi Regional Indeks yang cukup positif memungkinkan harapan ini terwujud. Lakukan pilihan saham dengan cepat dan siap-siap untuk menuai profit lagi. Resistance sementara di 1350 atau 1385. Support berada di 1287-1300. click at thumbnail to get larger view Tulisan di atas bukanlah suatu rekomendasi beli atau jual, melainkan suatu petunjuk untuk menginterpretasikan indikator tertentu. Informasi di atas seharusnya digunakan hanya oleh investor yang memahami resiko dalam trading saham, komoditi mau pun forex. Kami tidak bertanggung jawab atas kerugian apa pun yang disebabkan oleh penggunaan tulisan di atas. Pada tanggal 7 Maret 2009, PT Bumianyar Futuria akan mengadakan kursus Swing Trading Angkatan ke II Info lebih lanjut: http://www.bumianyar.com/SwingTradingCourse.htm IHSG090218s.PNGAngeloMichelS.jpg
[obrolan-bandar] Re: DJIA for today
Tergantung, makin lama DJIA berada dibawah garis semakin bearish dan mostly likely hit 7400. Kalo dia bisa loncat lewati resistance ya lumayan bagus. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Budi Raharjo budi_w...@... wrote: Artinya masih bahaya pak? Best regards, Budi Raharjo www.kinggeneraltrading.blogspot.com From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tirta858 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:24 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] DJIA for today Hitting resistance, they didn't let it go over the line. http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4784/djiaca1.gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA
Kasus BMRI kemarin, pada puncak penjualan harga tertekan dalam (1780-1690), kemungkinan terjadinya impulse penjualan berpotensi menekan harga sesaat. Salam, --- On Thu, 2/19/09, Hans h...@bumianyar.net wrote: From: Hans h...@bumianyar.net Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA To: amibroker...@yahoogroups.com, metastock...@yahoogroups.com, obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, sa...@yahoogroups.com, milis-a...@yahoogroups.com, my_...@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 2:08 AM Pola Descending di BBCA mampukah BBCA turun ke target di 2400. sasaran tembah. sebelumnya pola ascending gagal mencapai target. berikut gambar BBCA thx Hans Tulisan di atas bukanlah suatu rekomendasi beli atau jual, melainkan suatu petunjuk untuk menginterpretasikan sebuah pola atau indikator tertentu. Informasi di atas seharusnya digunakan hanya oleh investor yang memahami resiko dalam trading saham, komoditi mau pun forex. Kami tidak bertanggung jawab atas kerugian apa pun yang disebabkan oleh penggunaan tulisan di atas
[obrolan-bandar] IHSG
IHSG bergerak dalam wave koreksi cenderung sideways. saat ini berada di area 38.2 % 1323 target bawah 50 % 1278 sedang menguji fibo fan bila naik membuka peluang melanjutkan trend gambar terlampir thx hans Tulisan di atas bukanlah suatu rekomendasi beli atau jual, melainkan suatu petunjuk untuk menginterpretasikan sebuah pola atau indikator tertentu. Informasi di atas seharusnya digunakan hanya oleh investor yang memahami resiko dalam trading saham, komoditi mau pun forex. Kami tidak bertanggung jawab atas kerugian apa pun yang disebabkan oleh penggunaan tulisan di atasattachment: BEI 19 Feb 2009.png
[obrolan-bandar] ISAT view please
apakah mampu menjebol kebawah lagi??? ---
Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ISAT view please
47 ok..41 ok Dario Amran --- Pada Kam, 19/2/09, Mo Cuan syarif...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: Mo Cuan syarif...@yahoo.com Topik: [obrolan-bandar] ISAT view please Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Kamis, 19 Februari, 2009, 9:36 AM apakah mampu menjebol kebawah lagi??? --- Firefox 3: Lebih Cepat, Lebih Aman, Dapat Disesuaikan dan Gratis.http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/firefox
Re: [obrolan-bandar] MALAM INI PENENTUAN!
Asumsi saya dulu tahun 2007 pun Harga rata2 penjualan CPO di 450-500USD, dan diatas 500USD kena P.E. Saya kira sekarang kalo betul segitu P.E 0 untuk kasih insentif. Dan sekarang spot sudah diatas 500USD. ANTM harga rata2 nickel dibawah 6USD/lb malah spot sudah 4$/lb, kalau harga nickel di 8000-9000$/MT, ANTM bisa rugi bersih dan sudah rugi bersih saat ini. INCO saja yg punya PLTA sudah rugi 1$/lb. ANTM bisa 400-600 INCO bisa balik ke 1000-1300. INDEX di 1100 (mudah2an nggak kejadian, kalo DOW doji tiap hari di 7400-7500). Sepertinya kita bakal ada last swing after q1 released. Satu2nya sektor yg positif utk komoditas hanya CPO, emiten CPO semua memiliki C.A.G.R (compund annual growth rate) positif dari minimal cuma +3% sampai ada yg +20% untuk next 5 years. Cari emiten CPO yg growth tinggi kalo kuat tahan return besar macam SGRP, GZCO, TBLA, tapi kalo nggak sabaran ambil AALI pun bisa kasih yield 100% dalam 1 tahun. Coal juga bertahan cuma saat ini saya pantau harga coal mulai koreksi dari hari ke hari, jadi wait and see. Infrastruktur? emang kita ada proyek apa ya? Memang bagusnya bangun, contoh Malaysia mulai hidupkan lagi wacana bangun jembatan Malaysia-Singapore yg batal dibangun. Kita apa ya? Paling proyek2 PLTU sayang emiten kontraktor PLTU hutangnya gede2, bank laba ancur2an. Eleine Sui bilang bullish? Saya bilang tunggu dulu! --- On Wed, 2/18/09, Happy Pinguin pinguinha...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Happy Pinguin pinguinha...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] MALAM INI PENENTUAN! To: tahub...@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 1:13 PM Pak, Menarik sekali baca posting an bpk. Harga tertinggi AALI di 2007 mencapai 26 ribuan, boleh saya tau asumsi bapak hingga mencapai konklusi tsb, dan juga untuk ANTM yg akan mencapai hrg 400. Jika ga keberatan tolong di sharing pak, secara saya msh nyangkut di Antm. Satu lagi, menurut bpk index akan membentuk bottom krg lebih di kisaran brp, (ini untuk view saya aja pak) Dan sektor apa yg kira2 akan ribon duluan? Apa sektor infrastructure? Once again, tq for keep reminding us. Rgds From: Baso TAHU tahub...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:00:11 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MALAM INI PENENTUAN! Malam ini penentuan utk index DOW JONES! Apa 7400 tembus? Kalo mau lihat malam nanti coba jam 3 pagi WIB. 1 Jam sebelum tutup, soalnya mirip BEI yg paling penting sejam sebelum tutup. Tapi menurut saya lihat dari TA, apalagi SP500 dan NASDAQ masih ada tenaga untuk turun. Saham komponen DOW yg juga anggota NASDAQ macam MSFT, INTC lapkeu jelek, outlook jelek, valuasi pas2an cuma sama buruknya dgn taun 2001-2002 padahal ini dekat2 depresi. Saya yakin jebol support 7400. Selama aset buruk banking nggak dihapus, nggak akan ada kepastian, mau dijual ke swasta siapa yg mau beli diharga bagus? Dan gilanya kalo aset buruk nggak dipisah mirip BPPN jaman kita dulu, aset bagus bank bakal ikut jelek. Itu masalahnya ngak ada keberanian berkorban macam rakyat Indonesia (bukan berkorban sih, bego aja kita ditipuin). Untuk Indonesia, saham2 CPO baiknya BUY ON WEAKNESS, ada aksi akumulasi di CPO futures MALAYSIA. Malah kalo terus2an kuat diharga sekarang, saham2 CPO akan rebound (kecuali UNSP) ke level tertinggi di taun 2007 (bukan 2008 ya!). Coba berapa AALI di 2007? Kuat sekali ini CPO? Padahal Corn saja belum pulih2 amat. Bottom BEI? wuih sesudah q1 keluar! Pemenang PEMILU 2009, SBY, ke-2, Prabowo ; ) said who? I got a feeling, soalnya Prabowo belanja iklan edan2an, BIGGEST LOSER, Sultan.
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ISAT view please
fundamental, news, dll kenapa pak??? --- On Wed, 2/18/09, dario kurniawan darioamran1...@yahoo.co.id wrote: From: dario kurniawan darioamran1...@yahoo.co.id Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ISAT view please To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 8:40 PM Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] DJIA for today
Kalo ngikuti chart, double bottom, jadi hari ini kemungkinan bisa naik dulu, tp tidak menutup kemungkinan untuk kembali turun ke bottom ketiga or lanjut reversal ke resistance berikutnya. Disclaimer, Regards, Teguh Riswono Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: Budi Raharjo budi_w...@hotmail.com Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:32:03 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] DJIA for today Artinya masih bahaya pak? Best regards, Budi Raharjo www.kinggeneraltrading.blogspot.com From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tirta858 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:24 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] DJIA for today Hitting resistance, they didn't let it go over the line. http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4784/djiaca1.gif
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ISAT
Citigroup baru downgrade to sell.. Akibatnya apa tuh?? Saya paste dibawah yah: Exposes Stock Weaknessϖ Downgrade to Sell/High Risk — We downgrade Indosat to Sell/High Risk (newTP: Rp4,800) for three reasons: 1) expiry of Qatar Telecom’s tender offer (GO)removing key stock price support; 2) premium valuations (16.1x PE, -8.7%FCFE yield) for lackluster earnings prospects (where we cut net recurring profitforecast by 7.1% and 5.5% in 2009, 2010) and poor free cash flow profile in2009; 3) risk of strategy change with change in control. We prefer PT Telkom.ϖ QT tender offer concludes — QT’s GO concludes on 18 February. We think thestock’s resilience to date hinged on the Rp7,388 offer price for just over half ofminority shareholders’ stake (at current price, market imputing a c.Rp3,300ex-GO price). We believe QT was successful in acquiring close to if not all ofthe 24.2% stake, reducing Indosat’s free float to 20.7% from 45.8%.ϖ Premium valuations, lackluster outlook — At 16.1x PE, Indosat trades at a 41%and 38% premium to Telkom and regional wireless, unjustified against a Citiforecasted 7.5% recurring net profit decline and negative free cash flow profile.While Indosat’s gearing is also low, its lower free cash flow yield means lessflexibility to boost capex to strengthen competitive standing or raise dividendsto improve the stock’s attractiveness.ϖ Strategy change ahead? — Ownership change places an even chance ofmanagement change ahead. We note that while QT has boosted its presence inthe Board of Commissioners, the Board of Directors composition is unchangedfrom prior to ST Telemedia’s sale of a 40.8% stake to QT. A change of strategyto a much more aggressive competitive stance could not be ruled out. This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient please telephone or e-mail the sender and delete this message and all attachments from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or any attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure, error-free or virus-free. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors, omissions or consequences which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. This message is provided for informational purposes and is not intended to nor will it create any binding legal relations. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: dario kurniawan darioamran1...@yahoo.co.id Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:46:00 To: obrolan bandarobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ISAT ISAT dari desember akhir sampai kemaren harga begitu2 aja rangenya (5450-6000), memang kaitannya dengan adanya TO, berhubung tanggal 18 febuari kemaren akhir dari pendaftarannya, selanjutnya ini harga mau kemana? Volume sepi terus, jarak TO sama harga reguler jauh banget 5500 ke 7333. Ada strategi khusus tentang ini saham? feeling pengennya beli. Dario Amran Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ISAT view please
inget dulu tiba tiba ada orang disini yg suruh beli isat banyak banyak gr gr TO pas harga 5700 an ? heheheh --- On Thu, 2/19/09, Mo Cuan syarif...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Mo Cuan syarif...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ISAT view please To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 2:45 AM fundamental, news, dll kenapa pak??? --- On Wed, 2/18/09, dario kurniawan darioamran1976@ yahoo.co. id wrote: From: dario kurniawan darioamran1976@ yahoo.co. id Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] ISAT view please To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 8:40 PM Selalu bisa chat di profil jaringan, blog, atau situs web pribadi! Yahoo! memungkinkan Anda selalu bisa chat melalui Pingbox. Coba!
[obrolan-bandar] Re: Index sectoral Finance
IHSG -10 index Finance + 0,11% Jika BD engga mau menggerakan sector Finance, IHSG engga akan KUAT naek !!! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- consult...@... wrote: Index sectoral Finance Gerakan saham bank sangat menentukan arah IHSG bulan ini http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwlfina.htm
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ISAT
akibatnya hari ini isat di gebukhehehe go AR kiri go... --- On Wed, 2/18/09, vaulst...@yahoo.com vaulst...@yahoo.com wrote: From: vaulst...@yahoo.com vaulst...@yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] to pak JT: HEXA
mantep abis keluar stmnt ini gak lama hexa digebuk --- On Wed, 2/18/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] to pak JT: HEXA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 8:41 AM Hexa - meskipun sdh naik beberapa hari, namun sampai detik ini belum ada signal reversal, baik di daily maupun di intraday. Tekanan keatas masih terlihat cukup baik, tidak terdeteksi ada heavy distribution, the only thing yg mesti diwaspadai adalah divergence negative price volume, jika anda sdh in position, pasang aja trailing stop.., next tes level 1000'an. Good Luck. JT Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT -Original Message- From: Vic-milis milis9...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:05:20 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] to pak JT: HEXA pak JT, minta analisis-nya dong untuk HEXA, apa sudah saat-nya dilepas dulu? atau akan masih menguat terus? saya juga penasaran dengan chart yang biasa pak JT buat, untuk newbie seperti saya terkagum kagum itu buat dimana pak? maksud saya ambil di mana? salam + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [obrolan-bandar] ISAT view please
Iya TOLONG sesepuh ISAT Best regards, Budi Raharjo Jl. Kartini 2 no 8 Semarang 50124 +62 81808025588 +62 24 70885858 www.kinggeneraltrading.blogspot.com From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mo Cuan Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:36 AM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ISAT view please apakah mampu menjebol kebawah lagi??? ---
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index sectoral Finance
mbah apa ihsg dijagain utk nunggu to isat selesai? --- On Thu, 2/19/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index sectoral Finance To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 2:49 AM IHSG -10 index Finance + 0,11% Jika BD engga mau menggerakan sector Finance, IHSG engga akan KUAT naek !!! --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx- consult...@. .. wrote: Index sectoral Finance Gerakan saham bank sangat menentukan arah IHSG bulan ini http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ pwlfina.htm
[obrolan-bandar] ISAT......EUY...!!!!!
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] ISAT view please
Wajarlah kalau diturunin. Lha..koneksi im2 aja lemot banget 2009/2/19 Budi Raharjo budi_w...@hotmail.com Iya TOLONG sesepuh ISAT Best regards, *Budi Raharjo* Jl. Kartini 2 no 8 Semarang 50124 +62 81808025588 +62 24 70885858 www.kinggeneraltrading.blogspot.com *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mo Cuan *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:36 AM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] ISAT view please apakah mampu menjebol kebawah lagi??? ---
Fw: [obrolan-bandar] to pak JT: HEXA
Pak JT, apakah HEXA sudah terlihat indikasi reversal nya.. dan support nya di berapa pak...?? apakah ada peluang untuk tembus resist di 970 thanks NeeraJ Khiani - Forwarded Message From: Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:54:04 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] to pak JT: HEXA mantep abis keluar stmnt ini gak lama hexa digebuk --- On Wed, 2/18/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com wrote: From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] to pak JT: HEXA To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 8:41 AM Hexa - meskipun sdh naik beberapa hari, namun sampai detik ini belum ada signal reversal, baik di daily maupun di intraday. Tekanan keatas masih terlihat cukup baik, tidak terdeteksi ada heavy distribution, the only thing yg mesti diwaspadai adalah divergence negative price volume, jika anda sdh in position, pasang aja trailing stop.., next tes level 1000'an. Good Luck. JT Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISAT -Original Message- From: Vic-milis milis9...@gmail. com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:05:20 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] to pak JT: HEXA pak JT, minta analisis-nya dong untuk HEXA, apa sudah saat-nya dilepas dulu? atau akan masih menguat terus? saya juga penasaran dengan chart yang biasa pak JT buat, untuk newbie seperti saya terkagum kagum itu buat dimana pak? maksud saya ambil di mana? salam - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Individual Email | Traditional http://docs. yahoo.com/ info/terms/
[obrolan-bandar] Re: ISAT......EUY...!!!!!
Maksudnya MORE itu apa ya..?! Minta saham lain dibanting juga toh? Japri aja ke Pak Oen. Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, rangga_the_demon rangga_the_de...@... wrote: WE WANT MORE...WE WANT MOREWE WANT MOREWE WANT MORE.!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ISAT
Lets say Fidelity, Goldaman Sachs, semua fund reksadana ikutin TO isat 67% mereka fix laku di 7388. Dapet uang tunai... harga isat di gencet karena panik kaya gini. Trus uang mereka masuk di rekening diharga 7388 ini... tentunya ISAT potensi masih oke dong.. Waduh bayangin dong dengan fund mereka, ketika mereka buyback... waduhh cuannya jualan 7388 beli di 4600. Tentunya mereka ga akan beli di 4600.. bisa2 mungkin diturunin dulu.. jadi mereka bisa ambil lagi.. slurppp... can u imagine the gain playing isat?? ini isat lho bukan bejo. LoL Thank You! ThomaS FredericK --- On Wed, 2/18/09, Mo Cuan syarif...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Mo Cuan syarif...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ISAT To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 8:52 PM akibatnya hari ini isat di gebukhehehe go AR kiri go... --- On Wed, 2/18/09, vaulst...@yahoo. com vaulst...@yahoo. com wrote: From: vaulst...@yahoo. com vaulst...@yahoo. com
[obrolan-bandar] Analisa Rugikan BUMI Terpatahkan
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