Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-13 Thread Jim Klimov
On January 13, 2021 2:13:43 PM UTC, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: >On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, Jim Klimov wrote: >> >> Bob, FWIW I think you can generally copy-paste in terminals with >mouse if you hold SHIFT while click-dragging to select the text. > >Usually the problem I encounter is with a paste over a

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-13 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, Jim Klimov wrote: Bob, FWIW I think you can generally copy-paste in terminals with mouse if you hold SHIFT while click-dragging to select the text. Usually the problem I encounter is with a paste over a ssh login. The source system has either already been dealt with or

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-11 Thread Jim Klimov
On January 11, 2021 9:28:09 PM UTC, "Klaus Ziegler - owner of sunfreeware.de" wrote: > > >On 11.01.21 21:59, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: >> It would be good if fresh systems would default to fewer quirky >> wiz-bang features yet allow them to easily be enabled for a >Linux-like >> experience. >> >>

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-11 Thread Joshua M. Clulow via oi-dev
On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 at 12:36, Gary Mills wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 09:54:23AM -0800, Chris wrote: > > While vim(1) is my "goto" editor, and vi(1) really isn't difficult. My > > frustration > > comes in the fact that each OS implements a different version, with > > different > > keyboard

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-11 Thread Klaus Ziegler - owner of sunfreeware.de
On 11.01.21 21:59, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: It would be good if fresh systems would default to fewer quirky wiz-bang features yet allow them to easily be enabled for a Linux-like experience. Bob I absolutely agree and vote for it :-) Much

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-11 Thread Chris
On 2021-01-11 12:59, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Mon, 11 Jan 2021, Chris wrote: While vim(1) is my "goto" editor, and vi(1) really isn't difficult. My frustration comes in the fact that each OS implements a different version, with different keyboard macros. Which quickly made ee(1) my goto when

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-11 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 11 Jan 2021, Chris wrote: While vim(1) is my "goto" editor, and vi(1) really isn't difficult. My frustration comes in the fact that each OS implements a different version, with different keyboard macros. Which quickly made ee(1) my goto when I was working in a "constrained" env (like

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-11 Thread Chris
On 2021-01-11 12:36, Gary Mills wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 09:54:23AM -0800, Chris wrote: While vim(1) is my "goto" editor, and vi(1) really isn't difficult. My frustration comes in the fact that each OS implements a different version, with different keyboard macros. Which quickly made

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-11 Thread Gary Mills
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 09:54:23AM -0800, Chris wrote: > While vim(1) is my "goto" editor, and vi(1) really isn't difficult. My > frustration > comes in the fact that each OS implements a different version, with different > keyboard macros. Which quickly made ee(1) my goto when I was working in a

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-11 Thread Chris
On 2021-01-11 08:23, Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev wrote: I know how to install nano, sir. ... I can't deal with vi at all. Not the modern VIM let alone your old vi. Without nano, I can't do text editing. Yes, vi is historically part of any Unix. But at least, on FreeBSD, they have a

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-11 Thread Toomas Soome via oi-dev
best regards >> >> Vincent Torri >> >>> If you are making decision to use minimal image, you should be aware that >>> such image is missing many things and is not intended to be used by someone >>> who does not know how to use the system. >&

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-11 Thread Aurélien Larcher
y, in my POV) telling you to follow what used to be called > "netiquette". > > > > regards > > Michael > > > > > > On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:19:14 +0700 Tim Mooney via oi-dev < > oi-dev@openindiana.org> wrote > >

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-11 Thread Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev
my POV) telling you to follow what used to be called "netiquette". > > regards > Michael > > > On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:19:14 +0700 Tim Mooney via oi-dev > wrote > > > In regard to: Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside wi

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-11 Thread Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev
king decision to use minimal image, you should be aware that > >such image is missing many things and is not intended to be used by someone > >who does not know how to use the system. > > > > PS: I see no problem to include nano with larger image. > > > >

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-11 Thread Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev
gds, > toomas > > > On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:19:14 +0700 Tim Mooney via oi-dev > > wrote > > > >> In regard to: Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi, > >> Hung...: > >> > >>> Yes, it's just

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-11 Thread Michael Schuster
you to follow what used to be called "netiquette". regards Michael > > On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:19:14 +0700 Tim Mooney via oi-dev < > oi-dev@openindiana.org> wrote > > > In regard to: Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-11 Thread Vincent Torri
how to use the system. > > PS: I see no problem to include nano with larger image. > > my 2 cents. > > rgds, > toomas > > > ---- On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:19:14 +0700 Tim Mooney via oi-dev > > wrote > > > >> In regard to: Re: [oi-dev]

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-11 Thread Toomas Soome via oi-dev
re that such image is missing many things and is not intended to be used by someone who does not know how to use the system. PS: I see no problem to include nano with larger image. my 2 cents. rgds, toomas > On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:19:14 +0700 Tim Mooney via oi-dev > wrote ---- > >

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-10 Thread Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev
!'. Straight forward so I could know to silently go away. This will not waste our time with a bunch of back and forth emails. On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:19:14 +0700 Tim Mooney via oi-dev wrote > In regard to: Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi, > Hung...: >

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-09 Thread Tim Mooney via oi-dev
In regard to: Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi, Hung...: Yes, it's just a single line. But why you give me a read-only file and asked me to modified it? It's much more simpler for developer with write access to do it, not me. And it's within a second, just a single line

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-09 Thread Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev
Yes, it's just a single line. But why you give me a read-only file and asked me to modified it? It's much more simpler for developer with write access to do it, not me. And it's within a second, just a single line. On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 00:49:50 +0700 Aurélien Larcher wrote > >

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-09 Thread Tim Mooney via oi-dev
In regard to: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi, Hung...: This should be done for none desktop OI flavors: OI text and OI minimal. Nano is already packaged for OI, though it may not be getting installed by default. It's a balancing act, to decide what to include

Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-09 Thread Aurélien Larcher
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 9:09 AM Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev < oi-dev@openindiana.org> wrote: > This should be done for none desktop OI flavors: OI text and OI minimal. > > It will help novice user like me very much. Please consider it, > developers. I have trouble using the vi editor even though I

[oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi

2021-01-09 Thread Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev
This should be done for none desktop OI flavors: OI text and OI minimal. It will help novice user like me very much. Please consider it, developers. I have trouble using the vi editor even though I have my mobile phone with me as a backup showing the vi tutorial. And I think many other novice