Re: [oi-dev] OI Hipster 2017.10 snapshot

[Toomas Soome]

> On 12 Nov 2017, at 21:35, Reginald Beardsley via oi-dev 
>  wrote:
> 
> After *much* fun I got Hipster 2017.10 to install on my Giada N3.  Firefox is 
> marginally functional, very marginally  functional. It consumes roughly 1/2 
> of the 2 GB main memory.
> 
> The first set of  output is from the first session when I was asked about 
> telemetry.  The 2nd seems to relate to "getting into yahoo mail and trying to 
> send a message." The part in quotes above  was all typed without echo.
> 
> 
> rhb@openindiana:~$ /usr/bin/firefox
> [Child 1674] ###!!! ABORT: Aborting on channel error.: file 
> /jenkins/jobs/oi-userland/workspace/components/web/firefox/firefox-52.4.1esr/ipc/glue/MessageChannel.cpp,
>  line 2152
> [Child 1674] ###!!! ABORT: Aborting on channel error.: file 
> /jenkins/jobs/oi-userland/workspace/components/web/firefox/firefox-52.4.1esr/ipc/glue/MessageChannel.cpp,
>  line 2152
> Killed
> rhb@openindiana:~$ /usr/bin/firefox
> 1510491023078   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for 
> webcom...@mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
> 1510491023185   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for 
> e10sroll...@mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
> 1510491023297   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for 
> aushel...@mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
> 1510491023407   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for 
> fire...@getpocket.com did not contain an updates property
> 1510491026100   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for 
> {972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd} did not contain an updates property
> 
> ---
> 
> Typing more than a few words is very problematic.
> 
> The release notes asserted that one could install versions of OI in parallel. 
>  Having successfully installed 151_a8 in the first 1/2 of the disk I tried 
> installing Hipster in the 2nd half.  This was *not* good for 1515_a8..  The 
> install seemed to go normally, but when I tried to log in, 2017.10  would not 
> accept my password.  I moved the drive over to another 2017.10 instance on a 
> z400 and cleared the passwords from /etc/shadow.  After that the 2017.10 
> instance would not boot.
> 
> I had intended to use the 2nd half of the disk to mirror the first half as 
> protection against media failures.  However, ti appears that it is not 
> possible access the 2nd MSDOS partition.  I used the text installer for all 
> installs.  The typing latency is running to over a minute at times.
> 
> The text installer would *not* allow me to have two Solaris partitions.
> 
> Having discovered that the latency is because 2 GB is not enough memory, I'm 
> not sure any of this matters.
> 

Having 2 Solaris partitions is not supported and never has been - it may work, 
but it really is not intended to be used like that - the slice naming does not 
support it, as we have no way to present the MBR partition name in device name. 
(Of course the whole disk device naming sucks, but thats another topic at all).

rgds,
toomas



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Re: [oi-dev] OI Hipster 2017.10 snapshot

[Aurélien Larcher]

After *much* fun I got Hipster 2017.10 to install on my Giada N3.  Firefox
> is marginally functional, very marginally  functional. It consumes roughly
> 1/2 of the 2 GB main memory.
>

One issue is also the processor, Intel Atom Diamondville is a poorly
performing architecture: in-order, little L2, poor FPU. Only Atom Avoton is
decent.
I bought a similarly spec'd D525-based Supermicro motherboard a few years
ago after reading positive reviews and it was a big disappointment.


>
> The first set of  output is from the first session when I was asked about
> telemetry.  The 2nd seems to relate to "getting into yahoo mail and trying
> to send a message." The part in quotes above  was all typed without echo.
>
> 
> rhb@openindiana:~$ /usr/bin/firefox
> [Child 1674] ###!!! ABORT: Aborting on channel error.: file
> /jenkins/jobs/oi-userland/workspace/components/web/
> firefox/firefox-52.4.1esr/ipc/glue/MessageChannel.cpp, line 2152
> [Child 1674] ###!!! ABORT: Aborting on channel error.: file
> /jenkins/jobs/oi-userland/workspace/components/web/
> firefox/firefox-52.4.1esr/ipc/glue/MessageChannel.cpp, line 2152
> Killed
> rhb@openindiana:~$ /usr/bin/firefox
> 1510491023078   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for
> webcom...@mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
> 1510491023185   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for
> e10sroll...@mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
> 1510491023297   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for
> aushel...@mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
> 1510491023407   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for
> fire...@getpocket.com did not contain an updates property
> 1510491026100   addons.update-checker   WARNUpdate manifest for
> {972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd} did not contain an updates property
>
> ---
>
> Typing more than a few words is very problematic.
>
> The release notes asserted that one could install versions of OI in
> parallel.  Having successfully installed 151_a8 in the first 1/2 of the
> disk I tried installing Hipster in the 2nd half.  This was *not* good for
> 1515_a8..  The install seemed to go normally, but when I tried to log in,
> 2017.10  would not accept my password.  I moved the drive over to another
> 2017.10 instance on a z400 and cleared the passwords from /etc/shadow.
> After that the 2017.10 instance would not boot.
>
> I had intended to use the 2nd half of the disk to mirror the first half as
> protection against media failures.  However, ti appears that it is not
> possible access the 2nd MSDOS partition.  I used the text installer for all
> installs.  The typing latency is running to over a minute at times.
>

> The text installer would *not* allow me to have two Solaris partitions.
>
> Having discovered that the latency is because 2 GB is not enough memory,
> I'm not sure any of this matters.
>

Firefox has become a slow hippo even on my Core i5-3230 based Debian laptop
... unfortunately is seems an inevitable trend ...


>
> Reg
>



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Re: [oi-dev] OI Hipster 2017.10 snapshot

[Reginald Beardsley via oi-dev]

After *much* fun I got Hipster 2017.10 to install on my Giada N3.  Firefox is 
marginally functional, very marginally  functional. It consumes roughly 1/2 of 
the 2 GB main memory.

The first set of  output is from the first session when I was asked about 
telemetry.  The 2nd seems to relate to "getting into yahoo mail and trying to 
send a message." The part in quotes above  was all typed without echo.


rhb@openindiana:~$ /usr/bin/firefox
[Child 1674] ###!!! ABORT: Aborting on channel error.: file 
/jenkins/jobs/oi-userland/workspace/components/web/firefox/firefox-52.4.1esr/ipc/glue/MessageChannel.cpp,
 line 2152
[Child 1674] ###!!! ABORT: Aborting on channel error.: file 
/jenkins/jobs/oi-userland/workspace/components/web/firefox/firefox-52.4.1esr/ipc/glue/MessageChannel.cpp,
 line 2152
Killed
rhb@openindiana:~$ /usr/bin/firefox
1510491023078   addons.update-checker   WARN    Update manifest for 
webcom...@mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
1510491023185   addons.update-checker   WARN    Update manifest for 
e10sroll...@mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
1510491023297   addons.update-checker   WARN    Update manifest for 
aushel...@mozilla.org did not contain an updates property
1510491023407   addons.update-checker   WARN    Update manifest for 
fire...@getpocket.com did not contain an updates property
1510491026100   addons.update-checker   WARN    Update manifest for 
{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd} did not contain an updates property

---

Typing more than a few words is very problematic.

The release notes asserted that one could install versions of OI in parallel.  
Having successfully installed 151_a8 in the first 1/2 of the disk I tried 
installing Hipster in the 2nd half.  This was *not* good for 1515_a8..  The 
install seemed to go normally, but when I tried to log in, 2017.10  would not 
accept my password.  I moved the drive over to another 2017.10 instance on a 
z400 and cleared the passwords from /etc/shadow.  After that the 2017.10 
instance would not boot.

I had intended to use the 2nd half of the disk to mirror the first half as 
protection against media failures.  However, ti appears that it is not possible 
access the 2nd MSDOS partition.  I used the text installer for all installs.  
The typing latency is running to over a minute at times.

The text installer would *not* allow me to have two Solaris partitions.

Having discovered that the latency is because 2 GB is not enough memory, I'm 
not sure any of this matters.

Reg

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Re: [oi-dev] OI Hipster 2017.10 snapshot

[Aurélien Larcher]

> I must dispute the assertion that Hipster 2017.10 is ready.
>

Hi,
Thank you for your feedback,


>
> I have a failing hard drive on my Internet access system running
> oi151_a8.  I have installed a new hard drive, partitioned it with gparted
> and booted the DVD image.  I have been running OI on this box since 148.
>
> 1) at the live desktop I cannot run either installer nor can I open a
> terminal window. All I get is a nice popup "i/o error" dialog.
>

 Could it be that your DVD drive is failing as well? Or simply your
motherboard controller?


> 2) when I try to boot from the DVD in single user mode it demands a user
> name and password, but does not accept "jack/jack" or "root/root". If you
> need to come up in single user mode from a DVD this is *really* annoying.
> There is no security if you have physical control of the machine playing
> games with the person booting from the DVD is pointless.
>

The reference documentation:

http://docs.openindiana.org/handbook/getting-started/

states that the password is 'openindiana' (and likely has been for some
time). To make sure I just verified that it works as expected.


>
> 3) I can find NO alternative ISOs!


Not sure what you mean by "alternative". How about the Text Installer?


>
> 4) The DVD boot menu does not have an install option.  WTF?
>

The desktop has two icons:
- Install OpenIndiana
- Install OpenIndiana using text installer

This is usually enough as soon as the system is able to boot up, which is
allegedly not your case.


> This *used* to be SunOS where things worked properly and you were not
> forced into using the very latest version if you didn't want it.
>
> I fully appreciate that there is only a small group doing most of the
> work.  But this is almost enough to make me give up and just run Windows
> for my Internet access.
>

Sorry that your experience is not smooth, but it may vary depending on your
hardware.
I have 4 machines and 2 virtualbox instances running OI and encounter
issues very seldom (or none that can't be fixed with a bit a effort)

Kind regards

Aurelien



>
> Reg
> --------
> On Tue, 10/31/17, Alexander Pyhalov <a...@rsu.ru> wrote:
>
>  Subject: [oi-dev] OI Hipster 2017.10 snapshot
>  To: "OpenIndiana Developer mailing list" <oi-dev@openindiana.org>
>  Date: Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 5:55 AM
>
>  Hi.
>
>  OI Hipster 2017.10 snapshot is ready.
>
>  Images:
>
>  http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-
> hipster-gui-20171031.iso
>  http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-
> hipster-gui-20171031.usb
>
>  http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-
> hipster-text-20171031.iso
>  http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-
> hipster-text-20171031.usb
>
>  http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-
> hipster-minimal-20171031.iso
>  http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-
> hipster-minimal-20171031.usb
>
>  SHA 256 checksums are available at
>  ${link}.sha256sum
>  Detached signatures for images are
>  available at ${link}.sig
>
>  The OpenIndiana Release Engineering key
>  has key id 0x3a021afadbe31887 (
>  https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=get=0x3A021AFADBE31887
>  ).
>
>  Release notes: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/2017.04+Release+notes
>
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>  Alexander Pyhalov,
>  system administrator of Southern
>  Federal University IT department
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Re: [oi-dev] OI Hipster 2017.10 snapshot

[Reginald Beardsley via oi-dev]

I must dispute the assertion that Hipster 2017.10 is ready.

I have a failing hard drive on my Internet access system running oi151_a8.  I 
have installed a new hard drive, partitioned it with gparted and booted the DVD 
image.  I have been running OI on this box since 148.

1) at the live desktop I cannot run either installer nor can I open a terminal 
window. All I get is a nice popup "i/o error" dialog.

2) when I try to boot from the DVD in single user mode it demands a user name 
and password, but does not accept "jack/jack" or "root/root". If you need to 
come up in single user mode from a DVD this is *really* annoying.  There is no 
security if you have physical control of the machine playing games with the 
person booting from the DVD is pointless.

3) I can find NO alternative ISOs!

4) The DVD boot menu does not have an install option.  WTF?

This *used* to be SunOS where things worked properly and you were not forced 
into using the very latest version if you didn't want it.

I fully appreciate that there is only a small group doing most of the work.  
But this is almost enough to make me give up and just run Windows for my 
Internet access.

Reg

On Tue, 10/31/17, Alexander Pyhalov <a...@rsu.ru> wrote:

 Subject: [oi-dev] OI Hipster 2017.10 snapshot
 To: "OpenIndiana Developer mailing list" <oi-dev@openindiana.org>
 Date: Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 5:55 AM
 
 Hi.
 
 OI Hipster 2017.10 snapshot is ready.
 
 Images:
 
 http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-hipster-gui-20171031.iso
 http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-hipster-gui-20171031.usb
 
 http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-hipster-text-20171031.iso
 http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-hipster-text-20171031.usb
 
 
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-hipster-minimal-20171031.iso
 
http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-hipster-minimal-20171031.usb
 
 SHA 256 checksums are available at
 ${link}.sha256sum
 Detached signatures for images are
 available at ${link}.sig
 
 The OpenIndiana Release Engineering key
 has key id 0x3a021afadbe31887 ( 
 https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=get=0x3A021AFADBE31887
 ).
 
 Release notes: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/2017.04+Release+notes
 
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Re: [oi-dev] OI Hipster 2017.10 snapshot

[Aurelien Larcher]

Great! Thank you!

Le Mardi 31 octobre 2017, Alexander Pyhalov a écrit :
> Hi.
> 
> OI Hipster 2017.10 snapshot is ready.
> 
> Images:
> 
> http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-hipster-gui-20171031.iso
> http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-hipster-gui-20171031.usb
> 
> http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-hipster-text-20171031.iso
> http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-hipster-text-20171031.usb
> 
> http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-hipster-minimal-20171031.iso
> http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/20171031/OI-hipster-minimal-20171031.usb
> 
> SHA 256 checksums are available at ${link}.sha256sum
> Detached signatures for images are available at ${link}.sig
> 
> The OpenIndiana Release Engineering key has key id 0x3a021afadbe31887 ( 
> https://sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=get=0x3A021AFADBE31887 ).
> 
> Release notes: http://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/2017.04+Release+notes
> 
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> Best regards,
> Alexander Pyhalov,
> system administrator of Southern Federal University IT department
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