Introduction

2011-06-26 Thread Ivo Hinkelmann
Hi, I like to introduce my self. My name is Ivo Hinkelmann (ihi at openoffice.org, ivo at apache.org). I am involved into OpenOffice.org since 2002. I am currently employed by Sun/Oracle but I am here as an individual. This and all post made by me in the future does not reflect any company

Re: Where can I put Japanese translation of a wiki page? (was: Can we rationalize and formalize a language project?)

2011-06-26 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi Dennis and all, I've created the page. http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal/ja I will update the list of initial committers when the English original page's list is stable. http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal The table seems broken. Thanks, khirano

Re: My introduction

2011-06-26 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi Marcus, I liked the time when I was watching the OpenOffice.org releases list and reading your posts updating your builds uploading status. :) I am looking forward to working with you and seeing your uploading of Apache OpenOffice.org builds including Japanese builds. :) Thanks, khirano

Re: Introduction

2011-06-26 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi Ivo, I am very happy to see you, the L10N guy, here. :) I am looking forward to seeing your L10N builds and working on the Continuous L10N. :) Thanks, khirano

Re: Contributors versus Committers versus PMC members - AND USERS

2011-06-26 Thread Simon Phipps
On 25 Jun 2011, at 12:23, Rob Weir wrote: 3) Create lists only when there is a sufficient number of project members on the Apache list asking for new list. I think I like approach #3 better. There are downsides to having more lists than we need. It fragments the discussion. If we have 93

Re: [PATCH -corrected} Fixing some typos in ppmc-faqs.mdtext

2011-06-26 Thread TJ Frazier
Hi, Dick, On 6/26/2011 08:14, Dick Groskamp wrote: [snip] Created a new patch and attached it to this message Index: ppmc-faqs.mdtext.diff === --- ppmc-faqs.mdtext.diff (revision 0) +++ ppmc-faqs.mdtext.diff (revision

[PATCH] Fixing some errors in /\site\trunk\content\openofficeorg\docs\edit.cms.mdtext

2011-06-26 Thread Dick Groskamp
rereaidng the file I found some other small errors/typos. Patch attached to this message -- DiGro Windows 7 and OpenOffice.org 3.3 Scanned with Ziggo uitgebreide Internetbeveiliging (F-Secure) Index: edit.cms.fix === ---

Re: [PATCH -corrected} Fixing some typos in ppmc-faqs.mdtext

2011-06-26 Thread Dick Groskamp
Op 26-6-2011 14:40, TJ Frazier schreef: Hi, Dick, On 6/26/2011 08:14, Dick Groskamp wrote: [snip] Thanks for fixing those compound nouns. I'm not sure that the progression of user name to user-name to username is complete, but—if it's an Apache convention—I can live with it. You might also

Re: Extensions Website down again

2011-06-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Raphael Bircher wrote: Am 25.06.11 22:23, schrieb Raphael Bircher: Hi at all Our Extensions website http://extensions.service.openoffice.org is down again. The site is back again, I will look for a monitoring now. Typo correction since there are people on this list which are still

Re: Contributors versus Committers versus PMC members - AND USERS

2011-06-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 26, 2011, at 8:21 AM, Rob Weir wrote: We have three basic options for legacy content: 1) Migrate it to a dynamic equivalent, e.g. form to forum, list to list, wiki to wiki. This might be using the same software or a different one, though obviously migration is more difficult cross

Preserving Legacy Content (was: Contributors versus Committers versus PMC members - AND USERS)

2011-06-26 Thread Simon Phipps
On 26 Jun 2011, at 12:21, Rob Weir wrote: We have three basic options for legacy content: 1) Migrate it to a dynamic equivalent, e.g. form to forum, list to list, wiki to wiki. This might be using the same software or a different one, though obviously migration is more difficult cross

Re: Files for wiki/web links

2011-06-26 Thread Dave Fisher
Wolf, That would be great! Once I see that your ICLA is on file, I'll give you ooo-admin permissions on the wikis and activate access to OOODEV as well. Admin rights are what is needed to modify the look and feel and style sheet both for the wiki and for pdf exports. I saw an email

Re: Preserving Legacy Content (was: Contributors versus Committers versus PMC members - AND USERS)

2011-06-26 Thread Joe Schaefer
At this point infrastructure would be interested in seeing the DNS zone file for openoffice.org, so we can get some idea of how many different services we're talking about. If someone has that information, please forward it to me privately. Thanks. - Original Message From: Simon

Re: Preserving Legacy Content (was: Contributors versus Committers versus PMC members - AND USERS)

2011-06-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 26, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: At this point infrastructure would be interested in seeing the DNS zone file for openoffice.org, so we can get some idea of how many different services we're talking about. If someone has that information, please forward it to me

Re: Preserving Legacy Content (was: Contributors versus Committers versus PMC members - AND USERS)

2011-06-26 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Sun, June 26, 2011 11:52:37 AM Subject: Re: Preserving Legacy Content (was: Contributors versus Committers versus PMC members - AND USERS) On Jun 26, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Joe Schaefer

Re: Preserving Legacy Content (was: Contributors versus Committers versus PMC members - AND USERS)

2011-06-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 26, 2011, at 8:57 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: - Original Message From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Sent: Sun, June 26, 2011 11:52:37 AM Subject: Re: Preserving Legacy Content (was: Contributors versus Committers versus PMC members - AND

[REQUEST] No more changes to Incubator Proposal Please

2011-06-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The current version of the Incubator Proposal is currently stable as it was at the conclusion of the voting to accept the Podling into the Incubator Project. http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal. Earlier today, a small change to the page led to the Initial Committer table being

Re: Files for wiki/web links

2011-06-26 Thread Wolf Halton
I snailmailed it. Scanning is difficult and faxing is worse. (At least right now). I sent it Thursday so it should be there by Monday or Tuesday. I am looking forward to helping out. On Jun 26, 2011 11:37 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Wolf, That would be great! Once I see

Re: Contributors versus Committers versus PMC members - AND USERS

2011-06-26 Thread Wolf Halton
What I like most about mailing lists is the ability to tightly focus the topics. What I like about forums is the large number of categorizations possible. My main platform allows threading of headers in email, but it fails when threads are forked or subject/title is changed. I am strongly in

INVITED/INITIAL COMMITTERS: I sent in my iCLA, Now Where's My ID?

2011-06-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
SHORT VERSION After the iCLA is registered for an Invited/Initial Committer, there will be an e-mail about establishing an Apache user name. Creation of the Apache ID is initiated by reply to that e-mail. If you believe you should have received such an e-mail by now, first check the Long

Re: My introduction

2011-06-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Thanks, lets see how long we need for the first build. But first we need to learn how releasing is working at the ASF. Marcus Am 06/26/2011 12:37 PM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano: Hi Marcus, I liked the time when I was watching the OpenOffice.org releases list and reading your posts updating

Re: Give Me a C, Give me an R, CTR! The Incubator OpenOffice Web Site

2011-06-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: . . . (I have no idea where learning the ropes comes from.  What is the expression in your part of the world?) This is a nautical term. A new sailor would need to learn the rigging of the ship, as well as

Yet Another Introduction

2011-06-26 Thread Michael Stahl
hi all, another introduction: my name is Michael Stahl; my user name both at openoffice.org and apache.org is mst. currently i'm employed by Oracle, but i am participating in Apache OpenOffice.org as an individual, and anything i say is based only on my own opinion; i do not speak for my

Re: Myspell (was Re: An svn question)

2011-06-26 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Pedro, On Saturday, 2011-06-25 17:47:23 -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hunspell has some advantages over MySpell Well, the issue is the license, and the alternative is to just remove spell checking and maintain it outside the OOo tree, as an extension. I hate to say this, but where I live

Re: Yet Another Introduction

2011-06-26 Thread Ian Lynch
On 26 June 2011 21:54, Michael Stahl m...@openoffice.org wrote: my personal goal is actually to contribute a net negative number of lines of code :) An excellent goal - it's like the saying of letter writers. If I had more time it would have been shorter ;-) -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT

Re: Files for wiki/web links

2011-06-26 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 08:25 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: On Jun 24, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Andy Brown wrote: Wolf Halton wrote: Why not have it be an actual wiki page with option to download pdf? I am willing to give it a try if someone can point me to instructions on what to do. It is

Source format for user guides

2011-06-26 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
The topic of this note is USER GUIDES, one of several possible types of user documentation. What I say here is not necessarily relevant to other types of user doc. I assume that user guides similar to the existing ones are a desirable subset of user documentation, and that we wish to continue

Re: Source format for user guides

2011-06-26 Thread Rob Weir
I like the idea of using ODF, for the reasons you state. I assuming this implies ODF files in the SVN repository. If so, we're going to have three pain points: 1) Since ODF is not a text format, diff's are not possible with the default SVN tools. Yes, we can do change tracking inside of the

Re: Source format for user guides

2011-06-26 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 20:00 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: I like the idea of using ODF, for the reasons you state. I assuming this implies ODF files in the SVN repository. Why? I'm sure I saw a note earlier on this list that user docs don't need to be in SVN, and I certainly do not see this is

PPMC Box Score: What does PPMC? Mean

2011-06-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
When an Invited/Initial Committer is setup for the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling, the next stage is to track them with regard to having joined the Poddling PMC if they are also invited to be on the PPMC (as all Initial Committers and Invitees are at this time). Sometimes it is simply unclear

RE: [REQUEST] No more changes to Incubator Proposal Please

2011-06-26 Thread Gavin McDonald
I made the page read only. Gav... -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, 27 June 2011 2:04 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: [REQUEST] No more changes to Incubator Proposal Please The current version of the Incubator

Re: Source format for user guides

2011-06-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: I like the idea of using ODF, for the reasons you state. I assuming this implies ODF files in the SVN repository.  If so, we're going to have three pain points: 1) Since ODF is not a text format,

Re: Source format for user guides

2011-06-26 Thread Andy Brown
Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: I like the idea of using ODF, for the reasons you state. I assuming this implies ODF files in the SVN repository. If so, we're going to have three pain points: 1) Since ODF is not a

Re: Source format for user guides

2011-06-26 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 21:45 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Hi Rob, I agree with Jean. The manuals can be uploaded or linked to the wiki page. There is no need to reinvent a system that works as well as the ODFAuthors

Introduction

2011-06-26 Thread imacat
Dear all, I would like to introduce myself. I'm imacat from Taiwan. I'm currently the OpenOffice.org Traditional Chinese Translation Lead, and am helping to organize the OpenOffice.org Taiwan local community. I'm also helping EducOO.tw/OOo4Kids in Taiwan. My experience on

RE: Source format for user guides

2011-06-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I'm only going to step into the middle of this for a second and then make a hasty withdrawal. Please keep them CC-BY. That is permissive. CC-SA is like a copyleft, and you already handle that with dual licensing if that is what you continue to do. You could also use ALv2 since it is more

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Community and Developer Wikis Now Available

2011-06-26 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 14:30 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: Announcement - two confluence wikis are now available for the Apache OpenOffice.org project. [...] The Developers wiki is for project planning and documentation. Permission to create content must be limited to the Podling PMC, OOo