Re: svn commit: r1160285 - /incubator/ooo/site/trunk/content/openofficeorg/de/robots.txt

2011-08-22 Thread Dave Fisher
Raphael, Very cool! We should do this in the other parts. I'll check tonight unless someone else does it. I like the look of the DE site. Regards, Dave On Aug 22, 2011, at 7:57 AM, rbirc...@apache.org wrote: Author: rbircher Date: Mon Aug 22 14:57:21 2011 New Revision: 1160285 URL:

Re: svn commit: r1160285 - /incubator/ooo/site/trunk/content/openofficeorg/de/robots.txt

2011-08-22 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Do we need this for every subpage (like de, download, www) or can it be implemented more centralized? Marcus Am 08/22/2011 04:57 PM, schrieb rbirc...@apache.org: Author: rbircher Date: Mon Aug 22 14:57:21 2011 New Revision: 1160285 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1160285view=rev Log:

Re: svn commit: r1160285 - /incubator/ooo/site/trunk/content/openofficeorg/de/robots.txt

2011-08-22 Thread Raphael Bircher
More centralized it's maybe a better Idea Am 22.08.11 17:06, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Do we need this for every subpage (like de, download, www) or can it be implemented more centralized? Marcus Am 08/22/2011 04:57 PM, schrieb rbirc...@apache.org: Author: rbircher Date: Mon Aug 22 14:57:21

Re: svn commit: r1160285 - /incubator/ooo/site/trunk/content/openofficeorg/de/robots.txt

2011-08-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 22, 2011, at 8:06 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Do we need this for every subpage (like de, download, www) or can it be implemented more centralized? Yes, we do because we want the project part to be spidered, but not the openoffice.org parts until they are sanitized. Mostly we need to get

Re: svn commit: r1160285 - /incubator/ooo/site/trunk/content/openofficeorg/de/robots.txt

2011-08-22 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 22.08.11 17:05, schrieb Dave Fisher: Raphael, Very cool! We should do this in the other parts. I'll check tonight unless someone else does it. We have to clean up the page ;-) I like the look of the DE site. The Design is not from me, it was from SimonAW Regards, Dave On Aug 22,

Re: id@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 21.08.2011 19:32, Andy Brown wrote: Watching the discussions here I have a question. How hard would it be to find out which forwarding addresses are in active use, last six months, last year? Seems to me if an address is active' then it should be maintained for that user as that is

Re: id@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Andy Brown
Mathias Bauer wrote: On 21.08.2011 19:32, Andy Brown wrote: Watching the discussions here I have a question. How hard would it be to find out which forwarding addresses are in active use, last six months, last year? Seems to me if an address is active' then it should be maintained for that

Re: id@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 22, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Andy Brown wrote: Mathias Bauer wrote: On 21.08.2011 19:32, Andy Brown wrote: Watching the discussions here I have a question. How hard would it be to find out which forwarding addresses are in active use, last six months, last year? Seems to me if an

Re: id@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote: On 21.08.2011 19:32, Andy Brown wrote: Watching the discussions here I have a question. How hard would it be to find out which forwarding addresses are in active use, last six months, last year? Seems to me if an

Re: id@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 22.08.2011 19:22, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote: On 21.08.2011 19:32, Andy Brown wrote: Watching the discussions here I have a question. How hard would it be to find out which forwarding addresses are in active use, last six

RE: id@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Mathias, thank you for pointing out this significant case. Concerning id@openoffice.org in issue-tracking forms: If the bugtracker is bugzilla, there is both the CC information and the submitter (as well as anyone who is listed as having some role in handling the issue). I know that where I

Re: id@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread TJ Frazier
+1 I volunteer to help with the long-range problems (karma and fu assumed). --/tj/ On 8/22/2011 14:38, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Mathias, thank you for pointing out this significant case. Concerningid@openoffice.org in issue-tracking forms: If the bugtracker is bugzilla, there is both the

Re: id@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Andy Brown
TJ Frazier wrote: +1 I volunteer to help with the long-range problems (karma and fu assumed). --/tj/ I am willing to help as well. The only question is how do we get access to the OOo bugzilla to clean it up before moving it to the ASF? Andy

Re: id@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread TJ Frazier
On 8/22/2011 15:31, Andy Brown wrote: TJ Frazier wrote: +1 I volunteer to help with the long-range problems (karma and fu assumed). --/tj/ I am willing to help as well. The only question is how do we get access to the OOo bugzilla to clean it up before moving it to the ASF? Andy Strongly

Re: id@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Andy Brown
TJ Frazier wrote: On 8/22/2011 15:31, Andy Brown wrote: TJ Frazier wrote: +1 I volunteer to help with the long-range problems (karma and fu assumed). --/tj/ I am willing to help as well. The only question is how do we get access to the OOo bugzilla to clean it up before moving it to the ASF?

Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Kay Schenk
On 08/21/2011 03:28 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: I've updated the text on http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html; (with borrowed text from Mathias). Marcus That should help a bit I think! :) Am 08/19/2011 07:57 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 08/19/2011 07:29 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri,

Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Marcus (OOo)
@all: If there is somewhere else a place that should be updated (and I've write access) please let me know. Marcus Am 08/22/2011 11:10 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 08/21/2011 03:28 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: I've updated the text on http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html; (with borrowed

Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Andy Brown
Marcus (OOo) wrote: @all: If there is somewhere else a place that should be updated (and I've write access) please let me know. Marcus If you have access, maybe on the mailing list page on the OOo site [1] or [2]. If not then post a message to the list that your on. [1]

Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/22/2011 11:45 PM, schrieb Andy Brown: Marcus (OOo) wrote: @all: If there is somewhere else a place that should be updated (and I've write access) please let me know. Marcus If you have access, maybe on the mailing list page on the OOo site [1] or [2]. If not then post a message to the

Re: [What?] Why and How did this reach my inbox?

2011-08-22 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Dennis, On Sunday, 2011-08-21 09:37:50 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I note that there is a similar post on the list, with the same date stamp (I am in utc-0700). The differences between the one on ooo-dev@i.a.o and the separate one to my inbox are Bjoern's From address is different

Re: id@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi TJ, On Monday, 2011-08-22 15:36:54 -0400, TJ Frazier wrote: On 8/22/2011 15:31, Andy Brown wrote: I am willing to help as well. The only question is how do we get access to the OOo bugzilla to clean it up before moving it to the ASF? Strongly suggest we just move it as-is. We *know* how

Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 22, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/22/2011 11:45 PM, schrieb Andy Brown: Marcus (OOo) wrote: @all: If there is somewhere else a place that should be updated (and I've write access) please let me know. Marcus If you have access, maybe on the mailing list page on the

Re: id@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 22, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Eike Rathke wrote: Hi TJ, On Monday, 2011-08-22 15:36:54 -0400, TJ Frazier wrote: On 8/22/2011 15:31, Andy Brown wrote: I am willing to help as well. The only question is how do we get access to the OOo bugzilla to clean it up before moving it to the ASF?

Re: id@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM, TJ Frazier tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com wrote: On 8/22/2011 15:31, Andy Brown wrote: TJ Frazier wrote: +1 I volunteer to help with the long-range problems (karma and fu assumed). --/tj/ I am willing to help as well. The only question is how do we get access to

Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/23/2011 12:50 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Aug 22, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/22/2011 11:45 PM, schrieb Andy Brown: Marcus (OOo) wrote: @all: If there is somewhere else a place that should be updated (and I've write access) please let me know. Marcus If you have

us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org]

2011-08-22 Thread Dave Fisher
The changes are good at showing where we are as developers. The unfortunate point is that us...@openoffice.org is still a functional list with several posts in a day and the change is hiding that list. Until there is ooo-users@i.a.o we shouldn't hide users@ooo. Does anyone think we should wait

Re: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org]

2011-08-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: The changes are good at showing where we are as developers. The unfortunate point is that us...@openoffice.org is still a functional list with several posts in a day and the change is hiding that list. Until there is

Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org

2011-08-22 Thread Andy Brown
Dave Fisher wrote: On Aug 22, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/22/2011 11:45 PM, schrieb Andy Brown: Marcus (OOo) wrote: @all: If there is somewhere else a place that should be updated (and I've write access) please let me know. Marcus If you have access, maybe on the mailing

Re: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org]

2011-08-22 Thread Andy Brown
Dave Fisher wrote: The changes are good at showing where we are as developers. The unfortunate point is that us...@openoffice.org is still a functional list with several posts in a day and the change is hiding that list. Until there is ooo-users@i.a.o we shouldn't hide users@ooo. Does anyone

Re: [Discussion] dev-jnqqrfibojom4zkihc2...@public.gmane.org

2011-08-22 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-08-22 5:09 PM Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/23/2011 12:50 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Aug 22, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/22/2011 11:45 PM, schrieb Andy Brown: Marcus (OOo) wrote: @all: If there is somewhere else a place that should be updated (and I've write access)

Re: [Discussion] dev-jnqqrfibojom4zkihc2...@public.gmane.org

2011-08-22 Thread Andy Brown
Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011-08-22 5:09 PM Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/23/2011 12:50 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Aug 22, 2011, at 3:38 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/22/2011 11:45 PM, schrieb Andy Brown: Marcus (OOo) wrote: @all: If there is somewhere else a place that should be updated (and

RE: [What?] Why and How did this reach my inbox?

2011-08-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
So we get two copies any time someone uses that news reader to make a reply? Can we block the ones that come from the news group and only accept the direct ones? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Eike Rathke [mailto:o...@erack.de] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 15:42 To:

Re: [Discussion] dev-jnqqrfibojom4zkihc2jig-xmd5yjdbdmrexy1tmh2...@public.gmane.org

2011-08-22 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-08-22 7:29 PM Andy Brown wrote: Larry Gusaas wrote: There is no link to it anymore on the OOo support or mailing list pages. How are current users of OOo supposed to find support if the support lists are no longer listed. Certainly not by posting to this list! Larry, the link is

RE: [What?] Why and How did this reach my inbox?

2011-08-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
And why should we accept newsgroup posts the same as posts from subscribers to this list? This list is not a newsgroup, but the gmane newsgroup creates the effect of subscribers without they're being subscribed here. Why should we be interested in that? Especially with those mangled subject

Re: [Discussion] dev-jnqqrfibojom4zkihc2jig-xmd5yjdbdmrexy1tmh2...@public.gmane.org

2011-08-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 22, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011-08-22 7:29 PM Andy Brown wrote: Larry Gusaas wrote: There is no link to it anymore on the OOo support or mailing list pages. How are current users of OOo supposed to find support if the support lists are no longer listed. Certainly

Re: [What?] Why and How did this reach my inbox?

2011-08-22 Thread Andy Brown
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: And why should we accept newsgroup posts the same as posts from subscribers to this list? This list is not a newsgroup, but the gmane newsgroup creates the effect of subscribers without they're being subscribed here. Why should we be interested in that? Especially

Re: [What?] Why and How did this reach my inbox?

2011-08-22 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-08-22 8:25 PM Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: And why should we accept newsgroup posts the same as posts from subscribers to this list? This list is not a newsgroup, but the gmane newsgroup creates the effect of subscribers without they're being subscribed here. Do some research. Read

RE: [What?] Why and How did this reach my inbox?

2011-08-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Reply all doesn't do what you think on this list. I added you to the CC so you would know this was intended for you as well as the list. Nice change of subject though. My question was meant seriously. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Larry Gusaas [mailto:larry.gus...@gmail.com]

RE: [What?] Why and How did this reach my inbox?

2011-08-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I guess any questions about who is subscribed here need no longer be asked, because we have no idea who is subscribed via one of these aggregations. Interesting. -Original Message- From: Andy Brown [mailto:a...@the-martin-byrd.net] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 19:43 To:

RE: [What?] Why and How did this reach my inbox?

2011-08-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Are you saying that the newsgroup, whatever it is, is designed to send everything posted on it to ooo-dev ? And it subscribes to ooo-dev so it is like an aggregator? I guess if it aggregated and allowed posting, it would end up being a disconnected conversation if it didn't post here also.

RE: [Discussion] dev-jnqqrfibojom4zkihc2...@public.gmane.org

2011-08-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Larry, I meant subject lines like the first one from you earlier today. That's how it showed up on the ooo-dev@i.a.o list. It didn't come from this list that way. -Original Message- From: Larry Gusaas [mailto:larry.gus...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 18:09 To:

Re: [What?] Why and How did this reach my inbox?

2011-08-22 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-08-22 9:44 PM Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Reply all doesn't do what you think on this list. Yes it does. Actions of reply-all also depend on the email client you are using. If I had used reply-all for this post, a copy would have been posted through gmane, another would have gone

Re: [What?] Why and How did this reach my inbox?

2011-08-22 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 22, 2011, at 8:44 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Are you saying that the newsgroup, whatever it is, is designed to send everything posted on it to ooo-dev ? And it subscribes to ooo-dev so it is like an aggregator? Yes. And it is actually very handy. These services are searchable

Re: [Discussion] dev-jnqqrfibojom4zkihc2jig-xmd5yjdbdmrexy1tmh2...@public.gmane.org

2011-08-22 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2011-08-22 10:04 PM Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Larry, I meant subject lines like the first one from you earlier today. That's how it showed up on the ooo-dev@i.a.o list. It didn't come from this list that way. It seems that either gmane or the list-serve for this list was confused by the