Re: After AOO 3.4?

2012-04-29 Thread Ross Gardler
My IPMC vote will, as with Dave's, have nothing to do with integration with other ASF projects. Collaboration up and downstream is very important, but no more or less so for Apache projects. Neither does the project have to demonstrate success in all areas of potential collaboration, only a

Re: Logo of AOO in SVG?

2012-04-29 Thread Kevin Grignon
Ian, Nice work. Let's post the artwork to the wiki. While in there, we should tidy up the branding/logo wiki pages: We should capture the 3.4 vector and raster images, as well as source files in one location, and send out an announcement to all stakeholders. We should archive previous

Re: CVE-2012-0037: OpenOffice.org data leakage vulnerability

2012-04-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 07/04/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote: What would be the best way to translate both http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.html and readme.pdf? Perhaps the following? - Create a new page under http://www.openoffice.org/it - Add an Italian version link to

Re: Pinterest

2012-04-29 Thread Kevin Grignon
Nancy, Pinterest screen caps are interesting. I'm not familiar with how other software products are using the service, however, I'm assuming the goal is to drive traffic to our site and promote adoption. Perhaps we could align our pinterest screen caps to key features and aspects of our

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

2012-04-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:23 PM, 依瑪貓 ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: Hi, Rob, Manually update the downloads from the Traditional Chinese NL homepage Do you mean this page? http://www.openoffice.org/zh/new/zh_tw/downloads.html That page, but also any other pages that need to be updated.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenOffice 3.4 community campaign

2012-04-29 Thread Carl Marcum
On 04/28/2012 01:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: It is late for this idea, since we are probably only a week away from release AOO 3.4. But I think it is important to connect the dots on this. Is anyone willing to help with this over

Re: Logo of AOO in SVG?

2012-04-29 Thread Ian Lynch
On 29 April 2012 10:21, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: Ian, Nice work. Let's post the artwork to the wiki. While in there, we should tidy up the branding/logo wiki pages: We should capture the 3.4 vector and raster images, as well as source files in one location, and

Re: Logo of AOO in SVG?

2012-04-29 Thread eric b
Hi, Le 29 avr. 12 à 15:36, Ian Lynch a écrit : I'm also looking at producing the same logo as a .odg. Unfortunately Draw does not import the svg file very well (at least no in the LibreOffice version LibreOffice 3.5.2.2 Build ID: 350m1(Build:202) And what about use Apache OpenOffice to

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenOffice 3.4 community campaign

2012-04-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Carl Marcum cmar...@apache.org wrote: On 04/28/2012 01:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote: It is late for this idea, since we are probably only a week away from release AOO 3.4.  But I think it is

Re: Logo of AOO in SVG?

2012-04-29 Thread Ian Lynch
On 29 April 2012 14:44, eric b eric.bach...@free.fr wrote: Hi, Le 29 avr. 12 à 15:36, Ian Lynch a écrit : I'm also looking at producing the same logo as a .odg. Unfortunately Draw does not import the svg file very well (at least no in the LibreOffice version LibreOffice 3.5.2.2 Build ID:

Re: After AOO 3.4?

2012-04-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 04/28/2012 06:32 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: I'm already starting to get questions on what we'll be doing after AOO 3.4 is released. Based on previous conversations on this list, I'm able to speak confidently about a few things: 1) We'll probably graduate to a Top Level Project 2) IBM says they

Re: [CONF] Apache OpenOffice Community AOO 3.4 Distribution Tasks

2012-04-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 04/29/2012 03:50 AM, schrieb conflue...@apache.org: Space: Apache OpenOffice Community (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS) Page: AOO 3.4 Distribution Tasks (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks) Edited by Rob Weir:

Re: Pages in the social media

2012-04-29 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto
Hi. 2012/4/28 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Andrea. On Apr 28, 2012, at 12:07 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Rob Weir wrote: In return, and to

Re: Logo of AOO in SVG?

2012-04-29 Thread eric b
Le 29 avr. 12 à 16:02, Ian Lynch a écrit : On 29 April 2012 14:44, eric b eric.bach...@free.fr wrote: Hi, Le 29 avr. 12 à 15:36, Ian Lynch a écrit : I'm also looking at producing the same logo as a .odg. Unfortunately Draw does not import the svg file very well (at least no in the

Re: SPI

2012-04-29 Thread Claudio Filho
Hi Sorry, but i have some doubts about SPI and AOO. Do we need the SPI? ASF can't receive funds for AOO? I remember that we started a discussion about a partnership between a NGO here, in Brazil, and SPI to receive funds to other projects, and had a conflict point in the SPI rules about the

Re: SPI

2012-04-29 Thread Ross Gardler
No we don't need SPI. The ASF has its own fundraising infrastructure. Thesis simply about ensuring money donated to SPI for OOo, before the move to the ASF, is used as intended. Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Apr 29, 2012 3:28 PM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com

Re: SPI

2012-04-29 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Let me contact again the SPI and I'll cc this list. Louis On 2012-04-18, at 02:54 , Ross Gardler wrote: On the ASF side silence is approval, on the SPI side I'd have expected a response by now. Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On Apr 18, 2012 3:41 AM, Wolf

Re: Logo of AOO in SVG?

2012-04-29 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 4/28/12, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I will give my first presentation about AOO in Flisol - Latin America Free Software Install Fest - and tried to find the current logo in SVG. Other thing that i not found was the used font of current logo. The max that i found was this

Re: Text in linux dot com

2012-04-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com wrote: linux.com/news/software/applications/569606-apache-openoffice-lagging-behind-libreoffice-in-features I'm didn't like text. Negative marketing for me. Just ignore it. The closer we get to releasing AOO 3.4,

Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-04-29 Thread Claudio Filho
Hi I am not a lawer but i did a work of licenses some time ago[1], and i read many of main licenses, and a thing that i listened in all was that only the license holder can changes his work. So, my ask is: Oracle gave permission to TDF to add GPL and MPL for LibO?

OpenOffice funds

2012-04-29 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi All, First I'm cc'ing the public list ooo-dev@apache. Communication using that list is public. Second, and the point of this communication: OpenOffice.org was using SPI for aspects of fund raising and money management. With the transfer of the code to Apache and the development of a new

Re: Pages in the social media

2012-04-29 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. 2012/4/28 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Andrea. On Apr 28, 2012, at

Re: Pages in the social media

2012-04-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. 2012/4/28 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Dave

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-04-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I am not a lawer but i did a work of licenses some time ago[1], and i read many of main licenses, and a thing that i listened in all was that only the license holder can changes his work. So, my ask is: Oracle gave

Mailing list digest gone crazy?

2012-04-29 Thread Dennis Roy Martin
I'm being bombarded... ~30 messages dated 29 Apr 2012 15:26:40 - -- Dennis

Re: After AOO 3.4?

2012-04-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: 1) We want to have a maintenance branch that can be used to deliver quick-turnaround releases. ... 2) We also want feature release, like 3.5, 3.6, etc. Almost anything can go into them. ... 3) Then we have major updates, like 4.0. These are similar to #2, only more

RE: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-04-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
To be precise, the practice is for new contributions to be dual licensed as LGPL and MPL by the contributor. It remains the case that the main code body is under LGPL3 with the usual variations for third-party material incorporated in the release. - Dennis PS: Personally, I don't see any

Re: After AOO 3.4?

2012-04-29 Thread Kay Schenk
On 04/29/2012 07:16 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 04/28/2012 06:32 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: I'm already starting to get questions on what we'll be doing after AOO 3.4 is released. Based on previous conversations on this list, I'm able to speak confidently about a few things: 1) We'll probably

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-04-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: To be precise, the practice is for new contributions to be dual licensed as LGPL and MPL by the contributor.  It remains the case that the main code body is under LGPL3 with the usual variations for

Re: After AOO 3.4?

2012-04-29 Thread luizheli
Hi, The Writer can link text frames. This functionality would be greatly appreciated if it worked also in the Draw. Luiz Oliveira Em 28-04-2012 21:30, Rob Weir escreveu: On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hello; On 04/28/12 11:32, Rob Weir wrote: I'm

Re: Pages in the social media

2012-04-29 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto
Hi. 2012/4/29 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. 2012/4/28 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net On Apr 28, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Rob

Re: Text in linux dot com

2012-04-29 Thread Albino Biasutti Neto
Hi. 2012/4/29 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Albino Biasutti Neto biasut...@gmail.com wrote: linux.com/news/software/applications/569606-apache-openoffice-lagging-behind-libreoffice-in-features I'm didn't like text. Negative marketing for me. Just

Re: Logo of AOO in SVG?

2012-04-29 Thread Ian Lynch
On 29 April 2012 15:16, eric b eric.bach...@free.fr wrote: Le 29 avr. 12 à 16:02, Ian Lynch a écrit : On 29 April 2012 14:44, eric b eric.bach...@free.fr wrote: Hi, Le 29 avr. 12 à 15:36, Ian Lynch a écrit : I'm also looking at producing the same logo as a .odg. Unfortunately Draw

RE: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-04-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@Rob, I am not certain what this has to do with the original question. In any case, I agree that copyleft projects tend to be rather casual. (The complaining about the AOO use of ALv2 for the work it makes for LO downstream is informative, although LO has dependencies on a number of ALv2

RE: After AOO 3.4?

2012-04-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 -Original Message- From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 09:00 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: After AOO 3.4? [ ... ] I concur with Marcus's analysis and observation here, as well as comments by Rob and Andrea. Bug fixes and

Re: Logo of AOO in SVG?

2012-04-29 Thread eric b
Le 29 avr. 12 à 19:16, Ian Lynch a écrit : No no, the real issue is always between the chair and the screen. If you want to do it, you do it but don't insult me, thank you! It was simply humour :-) Eric -- qɔᴉɹə Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

2012-04-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It would be great to confirm that this list is complete and to

Re: [CONF] Apache OpenOffice Community AOO 3.4 Distribution Tasks

2012-04-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/29/2012 03:50 AM, schrieb conflue...@apache.org: Space: Apache OpenOffice Community (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS) Page: AOO 3.4 Distribution Tasks

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

2012-04-29 Thread Kay Schenk
On 04/29/2012 10:56 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It would be

Re: After AOO 3.4?

2012-04-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Sab 28/4/12, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net ha scritto: ... We also have to update some components. Anything with an Apache tag on it, like Apache Commons or Apache Lucene comes first because working with other Apache projects is key for our graduation. The amount of Apache

Re: After AOO 3.4?

2012-04-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Sab 28/4/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: ... All in all, I think we should focus on stability and not on features. What I am meaning here is that our users should not expect false promises like adding an import Visio documents feature that simply doesn't work. Of

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

2012-04-29 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Marcus, Marcus (OOo) schrieb: Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks Please review this task list and see if anything is missing. It would be great to confirm

Re: Logo of AOO in SVG?

2012-04-29 Thread Ian Lynch
On 29 April 2012 10:21, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: Ian, Nice work. Let's post the artwork to the wiki. I have uploaded a .odg and a .svg version. I'll do some more vector versions of some of others and upload. While in there, we should tidy up the branding/logo wiki

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-04-29 Thread Claudio Filho
Hi 2012/4/29 Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org: I am not certain what this has to do with the original question. @Dennis Right! My question was more about one (of many) advantage (or fallacies) of LibO use, where they said that with their code you have more freedom, where in true,

Re: Logo of AOO in SVG?

2012-04-29 Thread Ian Lynch
On 29 April 2012 21:04, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 April 2012 10:21, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: Ian, Nice work. Let's post the artwork to the wiki. I have uploaded a .odg and a .svg version. I'll do some more vector versions of some of others and

Re: Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce

2012-04-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 04/29/2012 09:23 PM, schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Marcus, Marcus (OOo) schrieb: Am 04/27/2012 09:29 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks Please review this task list and see

Re: [CONF] Apache OpenOffice Community AOO 3.4 Distribution Tasks

2012-04-29 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 04/29/2012 08:21 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/29/2012 03:50 AM, schrieb conflue...@apache.org: Space: Apache OpenOffice Community (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS) Page: AOO 3.4 Distribution

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache OpenOffice 3.4 community campaign

2012-04-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Carl Marcum cmar...@apache.org wrote: On 04/28/2012 01:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org  wrote: It is late for this idea, since we are probably only a week away from release AOO 3.4.  But I think it is

3.4 source and svn 1327774

2012-04-29 Thread Maho NAKATA
http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo34-rc/rc1/src/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.bz2 and my svn checkout 1327774 are slightly different; somehow following moz/zipped/makefile.mk file is removed. just fyi... diff -urN moz/zipped/makefile.mk moz/zipped/makefile.mk --- moz/zipped/makefile.mk

Re: Logo of AOO in SVG?

2012-04-29 Thread Claudio Filho
Hi 2012/4/29 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com: Just to say I have uploaded more logo candidates including with the text for 3.4 Release Candidate 1 and some versions incorporating the Apache feather. Any comments improvements, redesigns welcome. Ian, have some wrong thing in your logo. The

RE: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-04-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks Claudio, About more freedom. That makes no sense out of context. My interpretation is that the more freedom of [L]GPL is related to no fear of commercial exploitation without giving back. It is about freedom from that fear, if that's what the main concern is. It does not ensure that

Seeking fun facts about AOO 3.4

2012-04-29 Thread Rob Weir
I'm looking for interesting factoids about AOO 3.4 and the process that got us here. We started on June 13, 2011. What have we done? For example, we've had 17,340 posts to this mailing list We've fixed 291 BZ issues, 161 of which were reported since we started at Apache. We've elected 25

Re: Logo of AOO in SVG?

2012-04-29 Thread Ian Lynch
On 29 April 2012 23:27, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi 2012/4/29 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com: Just to say I have uploaded more logo candidates including with the text for 3.4 Release Candidate 1 and some versions incorporating the Apache feather. Any comments improvements,

Re: Legal question about (re)licensing

2012-04-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Claudio; First of all the mandatory disclaimer that I am not a lawyer either :-). ... --- Dom 29/4/12, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com ha scritto: ... Hi I am not a lawer but i did a work of licenses some time ago[1], and i read many of main licenses, and a thing that i listened in

RE: Logo of AOO in SVG?

2012-04-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It's tricky to find these because they are not shown or linked on the page itself, even though they have been uploaded as attachments. I notice that the vector-graphic versions don't render so well when displayed with IE9. In the transition vectorized logos [1], - the diffused shadow and

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

2012-04-29 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/27/2012 01:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: Kay Schenk wrote: Please take a look at and give feedback on a test page for the new

Re: After AOO 3.4?

2012-04-29 Thread Juergen Schmidt
On Sunday, 29. April 2012 at 21:10, Pedro Giffuni wrote: --- Sab 28/4/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: ... All in all, I think we should focus on stability and not on features. What I am meaning here is that our users should not expect false promises