Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-06 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
[mailto:keith.mckenna@comcast.**netkeith.mcke...@comcast.net ] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 05:34 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 06/04/2012 11:07 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: On Sat

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-06 Thread Shenfeng Liu
[mailto:keith.mckenna@comcast.**net keith.mcke...@comcast.net ] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 05:34 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 06/04/2012 11:07 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: On Sat

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-06 Thread O.Felka
Am 06.06.2012 10:33, schrieb Shenfeng Liu: Juergen, Agree with you! My personal opinion is that it must be an explicit place for user to choose the file association, in installer, or option dialog... Well, we need UX experts here... We should be aware that file association written by

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-06 Thread Shenfeng Liu
One more question is: what's the behavior in 3.3? In my desktop, doc was auto-associated to AOO 3.4, but not ppt or xls. It does not look like an intentional design. If it is just a regression, I will suggest to simply rolling back to 3.3 for now. - Simon 发自我的 iPhone 在 2012-6-6,17:07,O.Felka

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-06 Thread Javier Sola
For most of our customers, how computers work inside is magic... they do not want to know how it works. Entering into a setup page is a crazy thing to do, the computer will surely break down. For them, if double clicking in the file does not go to where it went yesterday, what is broken is

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-05 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 06/04/2012 11:07 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: . In no circumstance should AOO establish itself as a default for any file type. I'd say In no circumstance should AOO establish itself as a

RE: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 06/04/2012 11:07 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: . In no circumstance should AOO establish itself as a default

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-05 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
the program called Open Office 3.4 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 06/04/2012 11:07 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: . In no circumstance should AOO establish itself as a default for any file type. I'd say In no circumstance should AOO

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-05 Thread Shenfeng Liu
@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 06/04/2012 11:07 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: . In no circumstance should AOO establish itself

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-04 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 6/3/12 10:37 PM, drew wrote: On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 09:30 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Jihui Choi wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: When you

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-04 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 6/3/12 11:34 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:44:28 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:37 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 09:30 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Dave Fisher

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-04 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 6/4/12 11:04 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 6/3/12 10:37 PM, drew wrote: On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 09:30 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Jihui Choi wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Alexandro

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-04 Thread drew
On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 15:35 +0200, RGB ES wrote: 2012/6/2 Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org: On 6/2/12, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: When the US gov went to word from wordperfect sometime around 1994, pretty much everybody who interacted with the government went to MS Office

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-04 Thread Phillip Rhodes
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: . In no circumstance should AOO establish itself as a default for any file type. I'd say In no circumstance should AOO establish itself as a default for any file type which is already associated with another program. That

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-04 Thread Phillip Rhodes
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:43 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: Well, I can not agree that the 'next, next...' culture is wrong - that culture BTW is changing to just one click install. Soon IMO this small number of steps to install an end user application will likely be completely

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-04 Thread RGB ES
2012/6/4 Phillip Rhodes motley.crue@gmail.com: On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:43 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: Well, I can not agree that the 'next, next...' culture is wrong - that culture BTW is changing to just one click install. Soon IMO this small number of steps to install an end

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-04 Thread drew
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 23:53 +0200, RGB ES wrote: 2012/6/4 Phillip Rhodes motley.crue@gmail.com: On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 9:43 AM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: Well, I can not agree that the 'next, next...' culture is wrong - that culture BTW is changing to just one click install.

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-04 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 06/03/2012 05:34 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: Three immediate subjects for such an FAQ come to mind: 1) The file associations just discussed 2) When Java is needed for Windows it should be 32bit and version 1.6 I stressed over this one and simply installed multiple versions of Java to see

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-04 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 06/04/2012 11:07 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: . In no circumstance should AOO establish itself as a default for any file type. I'd say In no circumstance should AOO establish itself as a default for any file type which

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-03 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 06/01/2012 09:48 PM, Felix Brown wrote: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4 was: Today the automatic update to 3.4 happened. Today I opened a WordPad file, (Which I open often; It's my list of birthdays.); And to my surprise, Your piece of junk software had hijacked all

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-03 Thread drew
On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 09:30 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Jihui Choi wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: When you install it you agreed to open doc

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-03 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:37 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 09:30 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Jihui Choi wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Alexandro Colorado

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-03 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:44:28 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 4:37 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 09:30 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM,

AOO 3.4 FAQ's (was: Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4)

2012-06-03 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 16:44:28 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: snip Moving this to its own thread. Do we have any FAQ's for AOO 3.4?   Do we have a sense of what the common questions are at this point, based on the

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-03 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Ideally we'd have a dialog the user could reach both in the install and in the product where they could see what app currently owns each file extension and then switch the owner.  So they could assign an extension to AOO, but

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-03 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
2012/6/3 Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Ideally we'd have a dialog the user could reach both in the install and in the product where they could see what app currently owns each file extension and then switch the owner.

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-03 Thread bjcheny
+1. Even it's not available currently, we should make it happen in coming future. 2012/6/4 Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Ideally we'd have a dialog the user could reach both in the install and in the product where they

Re: AOO 3.4 FAQ's (was: Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4)

2012-06-03 Thread bjcheny
My question fyi: 1) Any requirement for OS/software/hardware before installation of Aoo 3.4? If java is necessary/unnecessary for Windows/Linux/Mac, then list it and our recommendation. If no 64 bit Aoo for windows, shall we list all platforms we support/don't support? 2) I wonder if

RE: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Jihui Choi [mailto:jihui.c...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 2 June 2012 1:54 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4 On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote

RE: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Graham Wright [mailto:gwright2...@hotmail.es] Sent: Saturday, 2 June 2012 2:01 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4 I often wonder why somebody that has Microsoft Office would have

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
2012/6/2 Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au -Original Message- From: Graham Wright [mailto:gwright2...@hotmail.es] Sent: Saturday, 2 June 2012 2:01 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4 I often

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 6/1/12, Graham Wright gwright2...@hotmail.es wrote: On 02/06/2012 03:40, Dave Fisher wrote: On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Jihui Choi wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Alexandro Coloradoj...@oooes.org wrote: When you install it you agreed to open doc files in OpenOffice Basically

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Wolf Halton
...@varekai.org wrote: 2012/6/2 Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au -Original Message- From: Graham Wright [mailto:gwright2...@hotmail.es] Sent: Saturday, 2 June 2012 2:01 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Alexandro Colorado
] Sent: Saturday, 2 June 2012 2:01 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4 I often wonder why somebody that has Microsoft Office would have the need to install Open Office anyway! Isn't Open Office mainly

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Jihui Choi wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: When you install it you agreed to open doc files in OpenOffice Basically installing AOO doesn't

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread RGB ES
2012/6/2 Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org: On 6/2/12, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: When the US gov went to word from wordperfect sometime around 1994, pretty much everybody who interacted with the government went to MS Office within a year or so. I expect we will see a similar

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Jihui Choi
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:35 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK, AOO installer on windows ask for file association, but maybe not with enough insistence: while I agree that the next, next, end + needed OK without thinking culture on this day computer world is plain wrong, it is not our

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 02/06/2012 Jihui Choi wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:35 PM, RGB ES wrote: AFAIK, AOO installer on windows ask for file association, but maybe not with enough insistence: while I agree that the next, next, end + needed OK without thinking culture on this day computer world is plain wrong,

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-02 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 02/06/2012 Jihui Choi wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:35 PM, RGB ES wrote: AFAIK, AOO installer on windows ask for file association, but maybe not with enough insistence: while I agree that the next, next, end

The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-01 Thread Felix Brown
The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4 was:  Today the automatic update to 3.4 happened. Today I opened a WordPad file, (Which I open often; It's my list of birthdays.); And to my surprise, Your piece of junk software had hijacked all of my documents to where they open

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-01 Thread Alexandro Colorado
When you install it you agreed to open doc files in OpenOffice On 6/1/12, Felix Brown buy-a-thing-or-...@sbcglobal.net wrote: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4 was: Today the automatic update to 3.4 happened. Today I opened a WordPad file, (Which I open often; It's my

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-01 Thread Jihui Choi
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: When you install it you agreed to open doc files in OpenOffice Basically installing AOO doesn't mean we agreed to open MS office formats in AOO. And it's supposed there's an option page to choose whether we'll open them in

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-01 Thread Alexandro Colorado
This is normal behavior on EVERY software. If you install firefox a dialog of You want to make firefox your default browser as you install. Same in Chrome and any other software. Winzip, iTunes, etc. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Jihui Choi jihui.c...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-01 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Jihui Choi wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: When you install it you agreed to open doc files in OpenOffice Basically installing AOO doesn't mean we agreed to open MS office formats in AOO. And it's supposed

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-01 Thread Jihui Choi
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: I am unsure from your statement Choi (is it proper to use the second name in conversation?) whether you were confirming the user's report. It's simple. I installed AOO 3.4 and I realized there's no option for choosing

Re: The reason I removed the program called Open Office 3.4

2012-06-01 Thread Graham Wright
On 02/06/2012 03:40, Dave Fisher wrote: On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Jihui Choi wrote: On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Alexandro Coloradoj...@oooes.org wrote: When you install it you agreed to open doc files in OpenOffice Basically installing AOO doesn't mean we agreed to open MS office