At the present time Hagar has chosen to appear under a pseudnym for what seem
to him good reasons. Members of the Forum on this list accept ths persona and
have no doubt about the postings to this list from that persona being genuine.
There is no requirement _at this time_ for him to appear
I have huge respect for the forums and the efforts the admins
of this systems do to make OO cool. I admit that I don't
understand well how they can fit in the Apache's structure
(afaict it has never been done) so I do share a lot of the
doubts that Rob has: if the forums are to be supported
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:23 AM, toki toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote:
Whilst it was Terry's choice, Rob's attitude was quite literally :
I don't care about how the forum used to be run, or why it was run that
way. You will do this, or else, where the or else is to treat it as if
it was a mailing
Eric,
I understand that it disturbs you that you don't know Hagar's real name.
That is perfectly clear.
What I don't understand is what you expect to see done about it.
A healthy community, and clean rules.
There are clean rules. If you want to join the PMC, you need to sign a
ICLA with
Yes FR web forum is apparently operating pseudonymously *and* anonymously.
Those mails often copied oooforum [at] free [dot] fr also, and I switched to
replying to thatthat until I realized that I was simply cross-posting to
yet-another list.
Please don't send my email address in clear. I
Am 08.09.2011 01:09, schrieb Raphael Bircher:
Hi Dave
This is not a buildbot or samething like that. This is the VCL
Testtool. It's a Tool witch is designed to run Testcase fully
automaticly. It's similar to a User interact with OOo. So it's a Gui
function test.
also login to EIS seems
Hi all,
I propose setting up of ooo-dev-ja at incubator.apache.org
As Japanese OpenOffice.org mailing lists such as
us...@ja.openoffice.org, annou...@ja.openoffice.org,
d...@ja.openoffice.org, disc...@ja.openoffice.org,
documentat...@ja.openoffice.org, market...@ja.openoffice.org,
Hi all,
Start again, the my earlier try was alienated.
As a first builds starts, and OOo Bugzilla migrated to Apache, needs to
think about how we will use it.
On OOo QA site can be found three page which says about issues/bug
issuing rules which the OOo project followed, and Bugzilla was
On Sep 7, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Pavel Janík wrote:
AFAIK source_config is the only way to get build.pl to look outside the
main repository/directory, so it is necessary.
given that we now have a more fixed directory layout with the SVN repo,
i guess it should be possible to hardcode the path
Proposal: That The Apache OpenOffice.org Podling recommends to Apache
Branding to provide permission to use the OpenOffice.org trademark and logo
for certificates, handbook and training materials for a system of
internationally recognised end-user skills certification accredited by the
UK national
Hi Pedro,
On Wednesday, 2011-09-07 20:32:38 -0700, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote:
There is also interest in using icu-regex for
replacing the copyleft regex and the latest
versions seem to have improved a lot.
Of course, but upgrading ICU at this stage for a 3.4
release IMHO is not an
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote:
Rob Weir wrote on Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 21:18:31 -0400:
I'd recommend handling this via respectful discussion with the user on
the list, expressing your concerns.
Do me a favor and quit making those implications. We
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:09 AM, Kazunari Hirano khir...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I propose setting up of ooo-dev-ja at incubator.apache.org
As Japanese OpenOffice.org mailing lists such as
us...@ja.openoffice.org, annou...@ja.openoffice.org,
d...@ja.openoffice.org,
Hi Rob,
On Thursday, 2011-09-08 08:01:00 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
In any case, +1 for Japanese list, with a slight preference for the
name ooo-general-jp.
nitpick
As this is for Japanese and not Japan it should be ooo-general-ja instead.
/nitpick
Eike
--
PGP/OpenPGP/GnuPG encrypted mail
Hi Rob and all,
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
Have you considered the name: ooo-general-jp.incubator.apache.org?
No, I have.
What do you think?
Good idea.
In any case, +1 for Japanese list, with a slight preference for the
name ooo-general-jp.
jp
Am 09/08/2011 10:09 AM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano:
[...]
I also propose 2 moderators for ooo-dev-ja at incubator.apache.org
1. Kazunari Hirano
2. Maho Nakata
If there are no objections to the above proposal within 72-hours then
I will invoke Lazy Consensus and will create a JIRA issue.
Thanks,
Am 09/08/2011 05:32 AM, schrieb Pedro F. Giffuni:
--- On Wed, 9/7/11, Eike Rathke wrote:
OK, I accept your reasoning.
...
There is also interest in using icu-regex for
replacing the copyleft regex and the latest
versions seem to have improved a lot.
Of course, but upgrading ICU at this
Hi Ian,
I don't see proper attribution that OpenOffice.org is a trademark of the Apache
Software Foundation on theingots.com. Otherwise, OK!
On the podling's site we are using OpenOffice.org and the seagull logo are
registered trademarks of The Apache Software Foundation.
We haven't received
Am 09/08/2011 02:26 PM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano:
Hi Rob and all,
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote:
Have you considered the name: ooo-general-jp.incubator.apache.org?
No, I have.
What do you think?
Good idea.
In any case, +1 for Japanese list, with a
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
and...@pitonyak.org wrote:
On 09/06/2011 10:04 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
It couldn't have been all that bad if you spent so much time volunteering
on those boards. -Rob
The problem is that the forum was setup years ago by a single
On 08/09/2011 15:06, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 09:54:33 -0400
Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote:
Thanks for sharing the history on this. It is useful (I think) to
understand the history of this community and what they've been through
in the past, what problems they've
I don't know why I didn't think of this before!
[PROPOSAL] Ask the community to move all discussion of forums, user
support, forum management or technical implementations, over to the
ooo-users@ mailing list.
Rationale:
- ooo-dev@ is pretty heavily loaded, and this will reduce traffic for
Thanks Dave,
I don't see any *policy* reason to change much so long as the initial migration
preserves reliable, undisrupted user-facing operation of OpenOffice.org. The
domain name transfer does not need to be the occasion for fixing everything. A
great deal can be done after that transfer
Pedro, just a quick clarification,
My understanding is that Infra doesn't do content conversions of the kind we
are talking about.
It is all volunteer work and it is up to the PPMC to resource such things.
Infrastructure provided the gear and the platform/stack.
Oh, and I read Alexandro's
On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 10:18 -0400, Shane Curcuru wrote:
I don't know why I didn't think of this before!
[PROPOSAL] Ask the community to move all discussion of forums, user
support, forum management or technical implementations, over to the
ooo-users@ mailing list.
that would be fine with
2011/9/8 Reizinger Zoltán zreizin...@hdsnet.hu
I think the discussion is mostly over, no new items appeared on this list.
Most of the topics repeated again and again.
The proposal : https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOODEV/**
Hi Rob and all,
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
Yes, Hirano-san, take your time. There is no advantage to rushing
this. In fact, we can all take some time to cool down as well.
Good. Thanks.
:)
[1]
On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 10:59:41 -0400
drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote:
I don't think it will take much time to take one last look at
those and I fully expect all will agree (or not object) that moving into
the new OpenOffice project is the best solution ... but we should take
that small time to
On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 00:15 +0900, Kazunari Hirano wrote:
Hi Rob and all,
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
Yes, Hirano-san, take your time. There is no advantage to rushing
this. In fact, we can all take some time to cool down as well.
Good. Thanks.
On Thu, 2011-09-08 at 11:49 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Kazunari Hirano khir...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Rob and all,
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
Yes, Hirano-san, take your time. There is no advantage to rushing
this. In
--- On Thu, 9/8/11, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
...
Pedro, just a quick clarification,
My understanding is that Infra doesn't do content
conversions of the kind we are talking about.
It is all volunteer work and it is up to the PPMC to
resource such things.
If I click Reply All the addresses that appear are what you see in the To:
on this message. I have not altered anything.
Your procedure for hiding your e-mail address is disruptive to this list and,
evidently, against the etiquette for lists on Apache projects.
Please find another solution.
I think the first problem is there is great confusion about what FR web forum
is doing. FR is providing an accurate Sender address, but the list doesn't
show that (or at least, not in my e-mail client), it shows the From: SMTP
Header, not the Sender: one which is not supposed to be forged or a
Hi Kazunari-san, all
2011/9/8 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de
Am 09/08/2011 02:26 PM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano:
[...]
Which do you prefer, ooo-general-xx at incubator.apache.org or
ooo-dev-xx at incubator.apache.org?
(xx is ISO language code)
Thanks,
khirano
+1 for
+1 especially with ja (OK on general unless it is really intended to be a
Japanese Language Developer list, something that would need further
clarification)
-Original Message-
From: Eike Rathke [mailto:o...@erack.de]
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 05:18
To:
Am 08.09.2011 01:27, schrieb Rob Weir:
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote:
Am 07.09.2011 19:27, schrieb Rob Weir:
I did this a couple of days ago, but ran into some issues that others
had not come across, so I decided to repeat it. I wiped out the
Am 08.09.2011 02:41, schrieb Eike Rathke:
Hi Pedro,
On Wednesday, 2011-09-07 14:19:50 -0700, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote:
I don't see why the current ICU 4.0.1 needed to be updated,
what issues with headers are you referring?
I am not sure exactly when the ICU license changed but
the
Am 08.09.2011 00:52, schrieb Raphael Bircher:
Hi Alexandro
Am 08.09.11 00:32, schrieb Alexandro Colorado:
I can't access QUASTe, I hope this is not the lost box that was in the
planet.
Regards.
I'm actualy not sure if we realy want to use Quaste. Quaste was a
special tool for our
Am 08.09.2011 13:30, schrieb Eike Rathke:
Hi Pedro,
On Wednesday, 2011-09-07 20:32:38 -0700, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote:
There is also interest in using icu-regex for
replacing the copyleft regex and the latest
versions seem to have improved a lot.
Of course, but upgrading ICU at
Am 08.09.2011 11:22, schrieb Pavel Janík:
On Sep 7, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Pavel Janík wrote:
AFAIK source_config is the only way to get build.pl to look outside the
main repository/directory, so it is necessary.
given that we now have a more fixed directory layout with the SVN repo,
i
There's some great material there. I did not review closely.
It is my thinking that this material should be preserved in an appropriate way.
I agree that the top level should make it easy to file a bug and offer links to
progressively-deeper detail elsewhere. Users with interest in knowing
Hi;
--- On Thu, 9/8/11, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote:
Which version of ICU is used in LibreOffice? If they use a
newer one,
this probably can tell us about possible surprises.
The FreeBSD port uses 4.8.1 (with local patches). so it
looks like they use system icu already.
I
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:23:55 -0700:
I think the first problem is there is great confusion about what FR
web forum is doing. FR is providing an accurate Sender address, but
the list doesn't show that (or at least, not in my e-mail client), it
shows the From: SMTP
Am 08.09.2011 20:13, schrieb Pavel Janík:
Hi,
On Sep 8, 2011, at 7:46 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote:
Thanks for the heads-up, I already discovered that the build doesn't
work.
excuse me, but what doesn't work for you now?
With the current tree (revision 1166829 now), without --with-lang,
Am 08.09.2011 20:53, schrieb Pavel Janík:
OK, sorry, I misunderstood your this change is incorrect. So I
will try a new clean build with --with-lang from head. Eike is
right with his reservation, but I don't think that we need a
general patch here, your hack should be enough.
The place
--- On Thu, 9/8/11, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
...
I see you closed INFRA-3917.
I like to clean my own mess, yes.
Keep in mind that there appear to be others willing to
struggle with Confluence migration (CWiki?).
That makes me very happy!
Anyone can reopen the issue: the problem I see is
Daniel
You're right, what I remembered as a Sender: was a Reply To:
The latest message from FR web forum on the list today is as you describe:
There are these
X-Authenticated-User: ooof...@free.fr
Reply-To: ooo-fo...@free.fr
From: FR web forum o...@athena.apache.or
and the interesting
Hi Dave,
thank you very much for asking ;-)
Am 8. September 2011 19:59 schrieb Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net:
Hi Manfred,
The German I learned in school 35 years ago is enough for me to know that it
would be polite if you would provide a rough translation.
it was really addressed to
Yeah, I've kinda ran into a similar problems when I originally volunteered
to help. I don't know how to go about it, without access to various data
dumps and such that it appears only Contributors/PPMC members have access
to.
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni
I've not forgotten about this, I'm planning to work on this soon. Though,
how can I go about testing my template changes, do I need to go through the
troubles and install my own BugZilla instance?
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Matt Richards mricha...@gmail.com wrote:
thought so, but tried
Hi Shane,
I looked at all of the subsequent replies to this proposal and I think the
discussion should stay here.
I think better visibility would be great. I don't think ooo-users@i.a.o will
accomplish that. I think that venue is inappropriate.
- Dennis
FURTHER OBSERVATIONS
After looking
On Sep 8, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Manfred A. Reiter wrote:
Hi Kazunari-san, all
2011/9/8 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de
Am 09/08/2011 02:26 PM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano:
[...]
Which do you prefer, ooo-general-xx at incubator.apache.org or
ooo-dev-xx at incubator.apache.org?
If you have a server, then you can always setup your own confluence for free,
or buy a personal limited license for $10 for 10 users.
Apache CWiki is on a version 3.4 while the current version is 3.5.
See http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/try.jsp
Atlassian has a sandbox as well:
Sure, I can set up Confluence on my own hardware. But what about getting the
MW data dump to work with?
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
If you have a server, then you can always setup your own confluence for
free, or buy a personal limited license for
On 9/6/2011 18:12, Rob Weir wrote:
Moving this point to its own thread
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:03 PM, drewd...@baseanswers.com wrote:
On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 17:30 -0400, TJ Frazier wrote:
On 9/6/2011 13:43, Matt Richards wrote:
Well, I thought Terry has resigned from the project according
Hi TJ,
Have a look at the Re: [wiki] Migration - A TerryE Clipping Collection [LONG]
thread.
Anyone thinking about playing with CWiki is thinking it is a Plan B.
MWiki is still Plan A.
For me the CWiki was the only choice until Terry E showed up and did his
tremendous work!
Since he left
Hello TJ;
Just looking for fun at the conversion tool:
https://studio.plugins.atlassian.com/wiki/display/UWC/UWC+Mediawiki+Notes
Particularly the featues section:
Templates would certainly be trouble.
Math macros are supported, but we need to install the
Latex plugin in Confluence.(Not
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