Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

2011-06-17 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Christian Lohmaier wrote on Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:43:04 +0200: Hi Greg, *, On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:44, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: (2) There is no clear preference on Bugzilla over JIRA. That is

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

2011-06-17 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Christian Lohmaier wrote on Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 15:57:54 +0200: Hi Daniel, *, On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Christian Lohmaier wrote on Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:43:04 +0200: For jira the Infra team uses an IRC bot that interfaces

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

2011-06-17 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Christian Lohmaier wrote on Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 16:51:47 +0200: Hi Daniel, *, On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: To clarify: infra has a bot that does N things and one of them is the issue handling.  So the issue handling would have

Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too

2011-06-20 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 08:33:55 -0400: I'm having difficulty reconciling the openoffice.org email forwarding service with how Apache projects work. For what it's worth: subversion.org and spamassassin.org are also controlled by (members of?) the respective PMCs. For

Re: Failure to have Unicode (UTF-8) text at the SVN (was svn commit: r1137103 - in /incubator/ooo/site:... )

2011-06-21 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 20:40:58 -0700: No joy. Nothing I do prevents the SVN server from coughing up text files as Western Europe (ISO) encoding. I wonder if it was simply a coincidence that it appeared to work on the OIC SVN. - Dennis -Original

Re: Failure to have Unicode (UTF-8) text at the SVN (was svn commit: r1137103 - in /incubator/ooo/site:... )

2011-06-21 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Daniel Shahaf wrote on Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 21:54:35 +0300: Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 20:40:58 -0700: No joy. Nothing I do prevents the SVN server from coughing up text files as Western Europe (ISO) encoding. I wonder if it was simply a coincidence

Re: About apache.org E-mail Addresses/Aliases

2011-06-24 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 00:27:28 -0700: There have been questions about having an apache.org e-mail address. These e-mail addresses are not free for the asking. Thanks very much for clarifying this! I have just two minor additions, below. 1. After your iCAL has

Re: [REQUEST] Initial Committers Please Confirm PPMC Participation.

2011-06-25 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Being on the PPMC also entitles one to a binding vote (on releases etc) Ross Gardler wrote on Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 09:36:54 +0100: It is worth stating, for the benefit o those not eligible to join the PPMC that there will be no discussion on the private lists other than things that need to

Re: Category B licenses

2011-06-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote on Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:53:43 +0100: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:26 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Robert Burrell Donkin wrote on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 22:24:07 +0100: Conventionally at Apache, the source release is canonical and is identical

Re: [DISCUSS] Creation of ooo-security List

2011-07-06 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 15:35:46 -0700: To make this conversation concrete: I have security issues I want to raise, which is what had me looking into this in the first place. Then please report them to security@a.o and/or ooo-private@.

Re: [DISCUSS] Creation of ooo-security List

2011-07-06 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 12:02:31 -0700: I've learned that the Apache approach is for each PMC taking the lead in handling security matters related to its releases. To maintain the security of security matters, the practice is to have a private list (for us,

Re: Regarding the PPMC's Private List

2011-07-07 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 13:16:39 -0400: On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Rob Weir wrote on Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 11:44:33 -0400: 2) I wonder whether it would be a good idea, at least while the PPMC is still growing and we're

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Javier Sola wrote on Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 18:43:17 +0700: If Apache forced this without discussion it would be a bad start for the project. You're misportraying the facts; it's a preexisting Apache policy that predates OOo being proposed as a podling. Now, we're generally reasonable people

Re: Script to generate mail archive URL from message

2011-07-12 Thread Daniel Shahaf
If you'd like to propose changes to the list software, approach the Infrastructure team. We use ezmlm. Eike Rathke wrote on Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 22:44:57 +0200: Hi, Seen that every message to the mailing list can be retrieved from the archive using an URL of the form

Re: Approaching the infrastructure team to add Archived-At headers (was: Script to generate mail archive URL from message)

2011-07-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Email infrastructure@ or show up on #asfinfra IRC. (I know that at least two members of root@ aren't even subscribed to infrastructure-dev@...) Eike Rathke wrote on Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 16:22:20 +0200: Hi Daniel, On Wednesday, 2011-07-13 01:13:26 +0300, Daniel Shahaf wrote: If you'd like

Re: Committers and Contributors and PPMC

2011-07-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
] On Behalf Of Alexandro Colorado Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:20 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Cc: Dennis E. Hamilton Subject: Re: Committers and Contributors and PPMC On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.namewrote: Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Thu, Jul 14

Re: 2011-07-15 PPMC Status: Bringing Initial Committers On-Board

2011-07-16 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Andy Brown wrote on Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 18:43:27 -0700: Wolf Halton wrote: What do I have to do to get in the PPMC? -Wolf Halton Your listed as one but not joined the mailing list yet. Reminder to those who don't already know the following: There is more to being on a (P)PMC than being

Re: SVN tutorial

2011-07-18 Thread Daniel Shahaf
You probably don't want to reinvent the How do I use the svn(1) cmdline client wheel. The svnbook and N other blogs and web sites already do that; pick one and run with it. Erhm, link to it. On the other hand, you should probably mention that alternative clients (eg, tortoisesvn) exist. Some

Re: [DISCUSS] Initial Committer: Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status

2011-07-24 Thread Daniel Shahaf
IngridvdM wrote on Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:02:00 +0200: Am 23.07.2011 23:47, schrieb Ross Gardler: (with my mentors hat) On 23 July 2011 22:08, IngridvdMingrid...@gmx-topmail.de wrote: [...] people might be ill, people might be on a journey around the world. Then when they return to

Re: [DISCUSS] Initial Committer: Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status

2011-07-24 Thread Daniel Shahaf
IngridvdM wrote on Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 20:04:54 +0200: Am 24.07.2011 18:41, schrieb Daniel Shahaf: IngridvdM wrote on Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:02:00 +0200: Am 23.07.2011 23:47, schrieb Ross Gardler: It is common practice for Apache projects to periodically clear out their committer lists

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-28 Thread Daniel Shahaf
What bureaucratic obstacles? Simon Phipps wrote on Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 15:01:38 -0700: Another even simpler alternative would be to host the community security list elsewhere where these bureaucratic obstacles do not exist. I'd be happy to arrange that and ensure all of the relevant parties

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-28 Thread Daniel Shahaf
We have processes, but we don't stick to them blindly. Rob Weir wrote on Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 18:17:14 -0400: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hello, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on 2011-07-28 22:04: I support Malte's recommendation

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Shane Curcuru wrote on Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 22:34:53 -0400: Note that I would also recommend emailing security@ after you have a basic proposed plan to get advice, and to strongly consider following any advice you get. They and some of the other major Apache projects, like Tomcat, Subversion,

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Pavel Janík wrote on Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 19:55:04 +0200: On Jul 29, 2011, at 7:49 PM, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: PS: why o why would signing an iCLA be a requirement to be a project security liaison ? it's like asking that any ambassador be naturalized citizen of the country he is in post

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dave Fisher wrote on Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:04:44 -0700: Let's stop misinterpreting and offending each other and find a way to co-operate. Several possibilities have been discussed. (1) A private list of experts that will be contacted as needed by ooo-security. Maybe this should be

Re: Operating ooo-security (was RE: Population of ooo-security)

2011-07-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 13:28:01 -0700: We are in a very fledgling situation here. Let's see if we can clear up a few things. Here is my understanding of the situation as it exists at the moment. - Dennis 1. The ooo-security@i.a.o list is private and

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 17:05:42 -0400: automatically cc LibreOffice and only LibreOffice Because I was too lazy to append This is just an example, in reality you'd have a list of other people and groups you'd CC, and that list may or may not include TDF to my previous email.

Re: Operating ooo-security (was RE: Population of ooo-security)

2011-07-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 16:55:06 -0400: For example, I'm not seeing at any stage where we would bring a summary of a reported vulnerability to the PPMC, even on the private list. The PPMC could, for example, be on the pre-notification list once the fix is done.

Re: Refactoring the brand: Apache ooo + OpenOffice.org? (was re:OpenOffice.org branding)

2011-08-01 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 20:45:09 -0400: Apache OpenOffice is a new Apache project. That's why we're in the Incubator. That's why we have Mentors. That's why, if we do not demonstrate reasonable progress in acting like an Apache project, we can be shut down at our Quarterly

Re: Converting the repo using mercurial's convert extension

2011-08-02 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Andrew Rist wrote on Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 10:27:40 -0700: On 8/2/2011 7:25 AM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: The script to do the mapping is attached unfortunately attachments don't make it through the listserver. IIRC, the list only blocks some kinds of attachments. And that can be disabled by a

Re: Request for comments: Community Wiki Services web page.

2011-08-08 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Terry Ellison wrote on Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 10:22:13 +0100: On 07/08/11 23:38, Terry Ellison wrote: I've just finished a 1st cut of outstanding tasks and issues for the Wiki. See https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Community+Wiki+Services Comments gratefully received

Re: Fwd: The impact of the OOo community sties on Apache.org domain volumetrics

2011-08-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
That message was sent to a privately archived list. Do not post publicly messages sent to private lists. Dave Fisher wrote on Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 15:55:07 -0700: Begin forwarded message: From: Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com Date: August 14, 2011 2:14:11 PM PDT To:

Re: Fundraising

2011-08-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Raphael Bircher wrote on Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 08:01:45 +0200: Am 14.08.11 03:58, schrieb Rob Weir: On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Eike Rathkeo...@erack.de wrote: Hi Rob, On Saturday, 2011-08-13 10:51:57 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: Donations went to Team OpenOffice.org, e.V, or to SPI (for

Re: Fundraising

2011-08-15 Thread Daniel Shahaf
I don't have any specific comment on this; you might talk to fundraising@. Ian Lynch wrote on Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 09:52:40 +0100: On 15 August 2011 02:20, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Raphael Bircher wrote on Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 08:01:45 +0200: I assume

Re: Fundraising

2011-08-15 Thread Daniel Shahaf
a deductible expense, just as donations are (in some cases). On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.namewrote: I don't have any specific comment on this; you might talk to fundraising@. Ian Lynch wrote on Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 09:52:40 +0100: On 15 August 2011 02:20

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-15 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:46 -0400, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: In each case, the error aborted the import which had to then be restarted from the top. So it was a slow process, finding all of these problem files. Possible solutions could include adding them as binary (not text) files,

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-16 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 08:32:19 -0400: Is anyone planning on actually reviewing the dump file, e.g., loading it into a local repository, checking it out and looking at the resulting source tree? First, need to review history too, not just a checkout of HEAD. Second, it would

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-16 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 12:53:12 -0400: I'm not certain whether I have permissions to load the dump file directly, without going through Apache Infra. I'd like to avoid doing this as a giant commit of 76K files because of difficulty of dealing with partial failures. I also

Re: [Repo][Proposal] OOO340 SVN Dump file import

2011-08-18 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Stephan Bergmann wrote on Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 15:46:33 +0200: On Aug 16, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Rob Weir wrote: By request I've created a new SVN dump file, this time from Linux. I would make the commit log more detailed than just initial import, Then edit it post-import. FYI all, Rob has

Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org

2011-08-20 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Please change the Subject line so that everyone interested in this topic can notice the discussion occurring.

Re: Gmane address encryption (was: Re: [What?] Why and How did this reach my inbox?)

2011-08-24 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 14:55:15 -0700: Here's a mangled To: address that is obfuscated and defies my inbox rules. Is this what you are talking about? Can we turn that off? Can we get it to user our accurate list address? It almost seems that our list is being

Re: Update on SVN dump load

2011-08-25 Thread Daniel Shahaf
wrt complete checkout, some use of svn checkout --depth=immediates svn up dir --set-depth=immediates svn up dir --set-depth=infinity might help with network issues. (it breaks the checkout into smaller transactions) Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 20:23:31 -0700: Thanks joe,

Re: Blank in folder name

2011-08-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
For me it just works, using the latest 1.6.x code. Mathias Bauer wrote on Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 15:29:03 +0200: Moin, somebody had the wonderful idea to give a folder in our repository a name with a blank. Unfortunately this folder misses two files that couldn't be imported. I tried to add

Re: Apache project community and external community

2011-08-31 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Ross Gardler wrote on Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:25:14 +0100: Is it the way OOo used to work? No, but OOo has chosen to come to the ASF now. Whose decision was it to move to the ASF?

Re: [ooo-user] was RE: us...@openoffice.org [Was: Re: [Discussion] d...@openoffice.org]

2011-09-01 Thread Daniel Shahaf
orcmid@a.o has access to SMTP at smtps://people.apachea.org:465/ Moderators can approve emails from any address, but access to the -log, -list, and the moderator's version of -help only works from the address listed as moderator. Only infra can change the moderator addresses on a list. Dennis

Re: Administrative controls / management of the mailing lists

2011-09-01 Thread Daniel Shahaf
The problem isn't Gavin needs to cool off. The problem is Terry and Infra need to find a way to work together without constantly stepping on each other's toes. On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 18:33 -0400, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: You two are some of the smartest admins I know, and I've known a

Re: Administrative controls / management of the mailing lists

2011-09-01 Thread Daniel Shahaf
responsibility for the rest. Infra has oversight and access to all VMs, though. * The PPMC finds a solution that doesn't involve Infra. (eg, Board budget to pay for external hosting) On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 01:45 +0300, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: The problem isn't Gavin needs

Re: I will try to finish my current tasks before I go

2011-09-02 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Terry Ellison wrote on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 09:56:12 +0100: This is a response to some content in the replies to ... It was late when I wrote this, so maybe I should have phrased it better. However one of my paragraphs generated a strong reaction and a bit of personal criticism, So I just

Re: An invitation to committers to the OOo Community Forums

2011-09-02 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 08:14:31 -0400: On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 5:28 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Shane there are some intrinsic differences between a DL and posting into a forum. However, reading this entire thread I get the feeling that some of the

Re: Apache Way community moderation rationale

2011-09-02 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 08:24:40 -0700: We are also not in control at this time, as far as I know. The registry information still has Oracle Corporation as the Registrant Organization. When the domain transfer at the registrar happens, we can worry about

Re: Dissatisfaction amongst the community admins, moderators and volunteers

2011-09-04 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Terry Ellison wrote on Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 18:09:15 +0100: On 04/09/11 16:49, Rob Weir wrote: ... we are not discussing project operations on ooo-private. We use that list for voting in new committers and for exchanging confidential information, like the real email addresses of new

Re: Dissatisfaction amongst the community admins, moderators and volunteers

2011-09-05 Thread Daniel Shahaf
drew wrote on Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 14:12:49 -0400: On Sun, 2011-09-04 at 14:05 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Being a member-based organization the ASF requires that all foundation activities be subject to member

threading Re: Dissatisfaction amongst the community admins, moderators and volunteers

2011-09-05 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dennis, some of your recent replies (including the one I'm replying to) break threading (at least in Mutt), could you look into that please? (The mails appear in the same thread, as a new reply to the first post of the thread.) Thanks. Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 16:29:02

Re: Dissatisfaction amongst the community admins, moderators and volunteers

2011-09-05 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 13:01:50 -0400: I think it would be good if they made up their mind soon. I thought we were close to the physical migration being completed. If the current volunteers are not on board with the Apache project, then we'll need to explore alternative

Re: threading Re: Dissatisfaction amongst the community admins, moderators and volunteers

2011-09-05 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Eike Rathke wrote on Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 16:35:32 +0200: Hi, On Monday, 2011-09-05 15:33:13 +0300, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Dennis, some of your recent replies (including the one I'm replying to) break threading (at least in Mutt), could you look into that please? That seems to be some

Re: threading Re: Dissatisfaction amongst the community admins, moderators and volunteers

2011-09-05 Thread Daniel Shahaf
chronologically in a separate folder that I filter it to and that is all that I know about it. I do my best. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Daniel Shahaf [mailto:d...@daniel.shahaf.name] Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 05:33 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject

Re: What is needed for Support Forums to be fully integrated into the Apache OpenOffice.org project

2011-09-06 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 09:06:31 -0400: I suspect I will be blamed for the *next* time Terry resigns as well, so I apologize in advance for whenever that day (or hour) comes. That wasn't necessary.

Re: [RT] Create a second incubator podling - the ooo forums

2011-09-06 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Shane Curcuru wrote on Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 09:01:04 -0400: The fundamental issues requiring some sort of agreement or change are: 1 - The Oracle servers the forums live on are going away (someday). Hence, the existing technical and organizational leaders of the forums *must* migrate the

Re: Bug reporting, handling rules

2011-09-07 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Don't set your From address to an @nike.apache.org address. Set it to a real email address. FR web forum wrote on Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 19:53:44 +0200: On OOo QA site can be found three page cut http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html

Re: Bug reporting, handling rules

2011-09-07 Thread Daniel Shahaf
a moderator turn this subscription off? (or not allow it in?) +1 Regards, Dave On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Don't set your From address to an @nike.apache.org address. Set it to a real email address. FR web forum wrote on Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 19:53:44 +0200

Re: Bug reporting, handling rules

2011-09-08 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:23:55 -0700: I think the first problem is there is great confusion about what FR web forum is doing. FR is providing an accurate Sender address, but the list doesn't show that (or at least, not in my e-mail client), it shows the From: SMTP

Re: [PROPOSAL] Get lazy consensus on to recommend that the trademark permission be granted to TLM Ltd

2011-09-12 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Ian Lynch wrote on Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:16:39 +0100: The Lazy Consensus period has now passed so there is PPMC agreement with the proposal. I now need trademarks@ to take any vote necessary to complete the process. (Mentors, if I have any of this wrong please let me know :-) ) You called

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-09-13 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:16:55 -0700: orcmid I've responded to your questions in-line. /orcmid With regard to detail, this is probably the longest report already. For context, look at the complete set of reports so far,

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-09-13 Thread Daniel Shahaf
the board approves them in a subsequent meeting. Until then, the agenda/minutes are maintained in a non-public area of svn. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Daniel Shahaf [mailto:d...@daniel.shahaf.name] Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 16:12 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for September 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-09-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 08:29:05 -0700: Rob, 1. Considering that the Bulldozing term and thread were on ooo-private, it will be weird to have that reported here as status of a group that was not privy to it. (The IPMC and mentors already know, of course.) I

Re: How to do with glibc-2.1.3 in AOOo?

2011-09-15 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Yes, apr_getopt calls in Subversion would come from one of those two libraries. If you need a minimal example I suggest subversion/svnversion/main.c and subversion/tests/cmdline/atomic-ra-revprop-change.c. Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 13:41:39 -0700: Support for w_char

Re: How to do with glibc-2.1.3 in AOOo?

2011-09-15 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dave Fisher wrote on Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 14:17:43 -0700: http://apr.apache.org/docs/apr/1.4/apr__getopt_8h-source.html http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.5/svn.developer.usingapi.html That's an old/previous release of the book. Also: http://subversion.apache.org/HACKING On Sep 15, 2011,

Re: LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice.org one year later

2011-09-22 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:03:08 -0400: An interesting new article in Lwn.net by Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier. https://lwn.net/Articles/458974/ There are a couple factual errors there in describing our project: 1) The article claims that we have not added any committers since

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for October 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-10-02 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Graham Lauder wrote on Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 07:02:17 +1300: On Sunday, October 02, 2011 05:16:15 AM Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: These announcements to a list are interesting, because it is not clear who will take the initiative to see that this happens. Last month, I waited too long before

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for October 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-10-03 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Marketing is not simply about pr +1

Re: PMC report for October 2011

2011-10-07 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Alexandro Colorado wrote on Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 10:46:36 -0500: AFAIK the current status of the report cover most of the points. The only ones that don't cover are really not needed, like privat matters. Not sure what you mean by that. It's occasionally needed to include information in the

Re: [DISCUSS] Publishing the PPMC Roster

2011-10-10 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 09:10:27 -0400: we're supposed to subscribe to that list using our Apache alias. Untrue.

Re: [DISCUSS] Review of OpenOffice.org Forums Agreement

2011-10-11 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 15:13:31 -0400: To enable list-based discussion of the proposal, I'm pasting in the current wiki markup. This will allow anyone to enter inline commentary, as a response, to the quoted original. Thanks! *H.* Should the ASF or the Apache

Re: [DISCUSS] Review of OpenOffice.org Forums Agreement

2011-10-11 Thread Daniel Shahaf
drew wrote on Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 18:07:35 -0400: On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 23:58 +0200, floris v wrote: Op 11-10-2011 23:46, Dennis E. Hamilton schreef: *H.* Should the ASF or the Apache OpenOffice.org project decide to terminate its support of the forums, it will grant a period of at

Re: [DISCUSS] Review of OpenOffice.org Forums Agreement

2011-10-11 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Ross Gardler wrote on Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 23:11:23 +0100: On 11 October 2011 23:07, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: In any case, the right way to handle this is just to take out the mention of ASF.  If indeed the PPMC has delegated authority, then it is sufficient to just mention the

Re: ooo-security and securityteam@ OO.o coordination

2011-10-13 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 09:26:56 -0700: CVE registrations are not the same as advisories and security-update announcements, such as this one from a downstream dependency impacted by vulnerability CVE-2008-2370: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0862.html. A

Re: Can we close the old mercury servers?

2011-10-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dave Fisher wrote on Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 08:56:10 -0700: On Oct 14, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: One of the comments on the Foundation blog is: Unless I'm mistaken, nothing has happened in the

Re: Hosting OpenGrok?

2011-10-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Someone asked this a couple of weeks ago, IIRC the answer was (a) need to evaluate this, (b) viewvc (which is already installed) has a search feature, whether it would be sufficient. Rob Weir wrote on Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 18:58:27 -0400: The legacy OpenOffice.org project had an instance [1] of a

Re: [DISCUSS] When Is a PPMC Invitee a PPMC Member?

2011-10-15 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Are you actually going to run into a situation where a person gains or loses their PPMC Member bit _while_ a [VOTE] is undergoing, _and_ that person's vote determines whether the [VOTE] passes or fails? Carl Marcum wrote on Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 16:02:41 -0400: On 10/15/2011 02:40 PM, Dennis E.

Re: Hosting OpenGrok?

2011-10-15 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Jürgen Schmidt wrote on Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 22:39:56 +0200: On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.namewrote: Someone asked this a couple of weeks ago, IIRC the answer was (a) need to evaluate this, (b) viewvc (which is already installed) has a search feature

Re: Hosting OpenGrok?

2011-10-15 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Michael Stahl wrote on Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 23:51:53 +0200: On 15.10.2011 22:13, Gavin McDonald wrote: Hi All, We already use Atlassians Fisheye tool on an external copy of our repo. This has excellent tools including the code search facilities you need. it looks like an interesting

Re: Legacy OOo SVN

2011-10-16 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 15:33:36 -0400: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: --- On Sun, 10/16/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... The sync has died.  Stuck on this error: :( The next revision has a huge memo, over 1MB

Re: Legacy OOo SVN

2011-10-16 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Daniel Shahaf wrote on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 21:39:12 +0200: svnrdump dump -r 49548 $SOURCE_REPOS 1 ed 1 svnrdump load $TARGET_REPOS 1 svn pl --revprop -r0 $TARGET_REPOS [ edit the svn:sync-* revprops ] I like this idiom :-) svnrdump is available in Subversion 1.7 and newer.

Re: Legacy OOo SVN

2011-10-16 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 18:34:33 -0400: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Daniel Shahaf wrote on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 21:39:12 +0200: svnrdump dump -r 49548 $SOURCE_REPOS 1 ed 1 svnrdump load $TARGET_REPOS 1 svn pl --revprop

Re: [PROPOSAL] Juergen Schmidt for ooo-security list member

2011-10-18 Thread Daniel Shahaf
1. This shouldn't be on ooo-dev@ 2. You don't need to enter a jira issue to subscribe someone to that list 3. You know both of the above facts very well, so what on earth caused you to start this thread here and claim that you need to file a jira to subscribe Jürgen to ooo-security@? Rob Weir

Re: [PROPOSAL] Juergen Schmidt for ooo-security list member

2011-10-19 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 19:57:24 -0400: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: 2. You don't need to enter a jira issue to subscribe someone to that list I thought only list moderators could subscribe/unsubscribe others

Re: [PROPOSAL] Juergen Schmidt for ooo-security list member

2011-10-19 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Ross Gardler wrote on Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 00:36:19 +0100: On 19 October 2011 00:27, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: 1. This shouldn't be on ooo-dev@ Why not? Why are committer votes not done on a dev list?

Re: [VOTE] Acceptance of the OpenOffice.org Proposal

2011-10-19 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 18:34:46 -0400: Don't lecture me on voting, Gavin. Read the the Apache Voting Process [1], the section on Implications of Voting, with my emphasis: You are being incredibly rude, and also incredibly out of line to teach ASF Members (for the second time

Re: working on a OpenOffice roadmap

2011-10-20 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Shane Curcuru wrote on Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 08:35:57 -0400: However, there is a somewhat related precedent in the Apache Subversion project, which shipped code as a podling under it's previous license before creating a fully ASF blessed release. As a widely used and mature project before it

Re: [REVIEW] Staged Migration of OO.o domain properties (long)

2011-10-21 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Alexandro Colorado wrote on Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 21:19:46 -0500: In other words, a name like .net would never be possible under apache because they have a strict policy of matching a brand with the domain name. That's both false and shows a rather severe (and insulting) misunderstanding.

{most}.services.o.o are going away Re: [Proposal] Shutting down legacy OOo mailing lists

2011-10-21 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Seems to me this is too important to get buried in this thread... Andrew Rist wrote on Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 15:45:30 -0700: -- snipped -- My guess here is that it is highly unlikely that lists of users or the forwarding map will be made available. The best approach for contacting

Re: Shutdown of the download.services.openoffice.org host and its Mirrorbrain instance

2011-10-24 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Donald Whytock wrote on Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 18:53:05 -0400: I didn't see anything about P2P at http://apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi. Does anyone know if ASF has any capability for this? Not to my knowledge.

Re: [DISCUSS] replace neon with libwww (preferred) or libcurl (as 2. choice)

2011-10-27 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Haven't read the thread, but: Subversion can use the serf library (Apache Licensed) instead of neon.

Re: Moved over the old OOo archive

2011-11-04 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Raphael Bircher wrote on Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 06:20:16 +0100: Hi at all I just moved the old OOo archive to the Apache archive server. After talkback with the infra team, I find out that it's allowed to have old releases in the apache archive, even the builds are LGPLed. Subversion has done

Re: Do recent bugs filed against Libre 3.4 need to be refiled with apache tracker?

2011-11-09 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 12:49:56 -0500: On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hello David; If you find a bug in OpenOffice.org file it directly on Apache's bugzilla. Duplicate bug reports are fine, they really are. So far I am the only

Re: Problem showing on main ASF page

2011-11-13 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Would have been useful if you noted the date/time you saw the site, the revision of ^/infrastructure/trunk/site at the time, or took a screenshot. The site regenerates hourly. Anyway, the subject line contains a ™ character, which had gotten encoded, was not decoded by mod_mbox (aka

Re: Problem showing on main ASF page

2011-11-13 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Sunday, November 13, 2011 5:11 PM, t...@apache.org t...@apache.org wrote: Daniel, On 11/13/2011 15:32, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Would have been useful if you noted the date/time you saw the site, the revision of ^/infrastructure/trunk/site at the time, or took a screenshot. The site

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Trademark and Brand

2011-11-16 Thread Daniel Shahaf
That's the tally. What's the result? Donald Harbison wrote on Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 20:21:19 -0500: Ballot: *http://s.apache.org/SXM* Voting is now closed. * http://s.apache.org/SXM**PPMC BALLOT RESULT* 14 TOTAL (a) Apache OpenOffice.org: 40.00% 20 TOTAL (b) Apache OpenOffice:

Re: EXPUNGE MY EMAIL ADDRESS

2011-11-18 Thread Daniel Shahaf
done neddam...@comcast.net wrote on Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:21:01 +: I have tried 3 times to get my email removed by sending a message to the autodelete mailbox. Please rmove mine also. neddam...@comcast.net. - Original Message - From: Emanuel Winocur 2alw...@cox.net To:

Re: Getting permission to use OpenOffice Trademarks (draft)

2011-11-19 Thread Daniel Shahaf
On Saturday, November 19, 2011 8:27 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Quite possibly. This is the first ASF project that, as far as I am aware, has seen a need for explicit fundraising activities. Once this PPMC feels comfortable with a proposal for this activity then

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