On 25 September 2012 14:20, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 9/25/12 2:49 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:
>> On 25 September 2012 12:10, Rob Weir wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Ross Gardler
>>> wrote:
On 25 September 2012 11:22, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Ian Lynch
On 9/25/12 2:49 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:
> On 25 September 2012 12:10, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Ross Gardler
>> wrote:
>>> On 25 September 2012 11:22, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Ian Lynch wrote:
> On 25 September 2012 06:15, imacat wrote:
>
On 25 September 2012 12:10, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Ross Gardler
> wrote:
>> On 25 September 2012 11:22, Rob Weir wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Ian Lynch wrote:
On 25 September 2012 06:15, imacat wrote:
> I feel honored to be listed. I wou
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 9/25/12 1:10 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Ross Gardler
>> wrote:
>>> On 25 September 2012 11:22, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Ian Lynch wrote:
> On 25 September 2012 06:15, imacat
On 9/25/12 1:10 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Ross Gardler
> wrote:
>> On 25 September 2012 11:22, Rob Weir wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Ian Lynch wrote:
On 25 September 2012 06:15, imacat wrote:
> I feel honored to be listed. I would like t
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
> On 25 September 2012 11:22, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Ian Lynch wrote:
>>> On 25 September 2012 06:15, imacat wrote:
I feel honored to be listed. I would like to help PMC if there is a
chance.
>
On 25 September 2012 11:22, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Ian Lynch wrote:
>> On 25 September 2012 06:15, imacat wrote:
>>> I feel honored to be listed. I would like to help PMC if there is a
>>> chance.
>>>
>>> In any case, I suggest at least one female should be i
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Ian Lynch wrote:
> On 25 September 2012 06:15, imacat wrote:
>> I feel honored to be listed. I would like to help PMC if there is a
>> chance.
>>
>> In any case, I suggest at least one female should be included in the
>> PMC, to encourage the contribution
On 25 September 2012 06:15, imacat wrote:
> I feel honored to be listed. I would like to help PMC if there is a
> chance.
>
> In any case, I suggest at least one female should be included in the
> PMC, to encourage the contribution of females in the community and bring
> diverse voices in
On 9/25/12 7:15 AM, imacat wrote:
> I feel honored to be listed. I would like to help PMC if there is a
> chance.
I am sure you will and you already does
>
> In any case, I suggest at least one female should be included in the
> PMC, to encourage the contribution of females in the comm
I feel honored to be listed. I would like to help PMC if there is a
chance.
In any case, I suggest at least one female should be included in the
PMC, to encourage the contribution of females in the community and bring
diverse voices in PMC. It is very important to encourage more and more
On 24/09/2012 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
On 9/24/12 10:26 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
Just to confirm that I have received no offline nominations.
thanks for this info, it shows that the approach was not so wrong and we
had no real need for this additional option.
It's still good to have had this opt
On 9/24/12 10:26 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Just to confirm that I have received no offline nominations.
thanks for this info, it shows that the approach was not so wrong and we
had no real need for this additional option.
I am looking forward to Andrew's summary and from my perspective we
should
Just to confirm that I have received no offline nominations.
Sent from my tablet
On Sep 19, 2012 12:00 AM, "Andrew Rist" wrote:
> (top posting after private messages - I cannot describe the shame I
> feel... ;-)
>
> I have an option that I believe will handle Andrea's concerns. I have
> spoken
the process is
>> done.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Dave
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> On Sep 20, 2012, at 12:08 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton"
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >&g
ve
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Sep 20, 2012, at 12:08 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton"
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dave, I'm puzzled.
> >>>
> >>> I thought this thread and the one on which nominations ar
are being made was
>>> at the initiative of Andrew Rist.
>>>
>>> Are you and he collaborating on compilation of the results?
>>>
>>> It would be great if there was a single compilation of the results, it
>>> could be verified by anyone, and t
Hi.
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> I think he said mkt
>
> On 9/20/12, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
>>
>> On 12-09-20, at 18:43 , Albino B Neto wrote:
>>> I am subscribe in lists of AOO: announce, commits, dev, l10n, mkt,
>>> pvt, qa, user.
>>
>> What, not marketing?
My list of 10:
Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)
Andrew Rist (arist)
David Fisher (wave) (Apache Membeber)
David McKay (thegurkha)
Donald P. Harbison (dpharbison)
Drew Jensen (atjensen)
Jürgen Schmidt (jsc)
Pedro Giffuni (pfg)
Peter Junge (pj)
Yang Shih-Ching (imacat)
--
This Apt Has Super Cow Powers
;>> at the initiative of Andrew Rist.
>>>
>>> Are you and he collaborating on compilation of the results?
>>>
>>> It would be great if there was a single compilation of the results, it
>>> could be verified by anyone, and there can be subsequent
I think he said mkt
On 9/20/12, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
>
> On 12-09-20, at 18:43 , Albino B Neto wrote:
>
>> I am subscribe in lists of AOO: announce, commits, dev, l10n, mkt,
>> pvt, qa, user.
>
> What, not marketing?
> :-)
>
> Louis
>
>
--
Alexandro Colorado
PPMC Apache OpenOffice
http:/
On 12-09-20, at 18:43 , Albino B Neto wrote:
> I am subscribe in lists of AOO: announce, commits, dev, l10n, mkt,
> pvt, qa, user.
What, not marketing?
:-)
Louis
Hi.
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:
> If you have not provided your list yet (and especially if you think someone
> is missing...)
> There is no better time than now!
+1
- Albino Neto (bino28)
I am not away, returning slowly, after work personal. (:
I am subscribe in lists
My list:
(Haven't had time to do the wiki; been involved in meets and -ings.)
This is a provisional list. Given the nature of the beast, it is meant to
propose those who can broaden the project's ambit and reach, and it also does a
pitiful job of that.
-louis
Dave Fischer (wave)
Donald
ay, September 20, 2012 06:06
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed PMC List
On Sep 20, 2012, at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler
wrote:
On 20 September 2012 11:49, sebb wrote:
Once a PMC exists, new members must be nominated and discussed on the
private@tlp list.
Votes are he
is
-Original Message-
From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 06:06
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed PMC List
On Sep 20, 2012, at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
On 20 September 2012 11:49, sebb wrote:
Onc
20, 2012 06:06
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed PMC List
>
> On Sep 20, 2012, at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>
>> On 20 September 2012 11:49, sebb wrote:
>>>
>>> Once a PMC exists, new members must be nominated an
vote case).
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: sebb [mailto:seb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 02:49
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed PMC List
[ ... ]
ASF members are nominated on the members list (and in members-only files).
ASF
, and there can be subsequent discussion on what to make of
it, if anything.
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 06:06
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed PMC List
On Sep 20,
On Sep 20, 2012, at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> On 20 September 2012 11:49, sebb wrote:
>>
>> Once a PMC exists, new members must be nominated and discussed on the
>> private@tlp list.
>> Votes are held on the private list, so is not secret, but it is not
>> public either.
>
> There are ver
On 20 September 2012 11:49, sebb wrote:
>
> Once a PMC exists, new members must be nominated and discussed on the
> private@tlp list.
> Votes are held on the private list, so is not secret, but it is not
> public either.
There are very few *must* items in the ASF. In fact it is up to the
PMC to d
On 20 September 2012 07:45, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> RGB ES wrote:
>>
>> 2012/9/19 Dennis E. Hamilton
>>>
>>> I recommend that the process continue. My only objection is that having
>>> secret nominations is not compatible with the Apache Way ...
>>>
>>> I recommend that no one accept nominations
RGB ES wrote:
2012/9/19 Dennis E. Hamilton
I recommend that the process continue. My only objection is that having
secret nominations is not compatible with the Apache Way ...
I recommend that no one accept nominations privately and that those who
have already sent theirs via any back-channel u
irs via any back-channel use ooo-private if they do
>>> not want their selection of names made public.
>>
>>
>> +1 (Even if I see no point on hiding the vote).
>>
>> Regards
>> Ricardo
>>
>>
>>
>>> (Since there are no -1 vot
the consolidated report.
>>
>> - Dennis
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:26
>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed PMC Li
lem.) There is no reason to identify those who have
> nominated anyone on the consolidated report.
>
> - Dennis
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:26
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject
12 12:26
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed PMC List
On 09/19/2012 10:38 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
[ ... ]
> In this way, a wiki can provide more than a mail list post.
>
> Louis
>
Yes, a wiki can provide more than a mail post, but I think this ex
Am Mittwoch, 19. September 2012 um 21:26 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>
>
> On 09/19/2012 10:38 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
> >
> > On 12-09-19, at 12:09 , Rob Weir wrote:
> >
> > > How would you deal with "opacity here as to how these names were
> > > suggested"? These are individual's stated pr
On 09/19/2012 10:38 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
On 12-09-19, at 12:09 , Rob Weir wrote:
How would you deal with "opacity here as to how these names were
suggested"? These are individual's stated preferences. Nothing
more, nothing less. Unless we require that everyone give a
complete, d
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
>
> On 12-09-19, at 12:09 , Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> How would you deal with "opacity here as to how these names were
>> suggested"? These are individual's stated preferences. Nothing more,
>> nothing less. Unless we require that everyone
On 12-09-19, at 12:09 , Rob Weir wrote:
> How would you deal with "opacity here as to how these names were
> suggested"? These are individual's stated preferences. Nothing more,
> nothing less. Unless we require that everyone give a complete,
> detailed justification for every name they pick,
--
> From: Andrew Rist [mailto:andrew.r...@oracle.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 16:00
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] Proposed PMC List
>
> (top posting after private messages - I cannot describe the shame I
> feel... ;-)
>
> I have an op
Did you mean to do this on the [PMC] Proposed PMC List thread, not the
[DISCUSS] thread?
-Original Message-
From: Ian Lynch [mailto:ianrly...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 09:22
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][PMC] Proposed PMC List
Ok, Andrew
Ok, Andrew persuaded me ;-)
Andre Fischer (af)
Andrea Pescetti (pescetti)
Andrew Rist (arist)
Armin Le Grand (alg)
Donald P. Harbison (dpharbison)
Jürgen Schmidt (jsc)
Kazunari Hirano (khirano)
Louis Suarez-potts (louis)
Marcus Lange (marcus)
Peter Junge (pj)
But I can think of several others tha
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
>
> On 12-09-19, at 10:05 , Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>
>> On 9/19/12 3:56 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
>>> I would agree with Peter's list but would ask that Ian Lynch be considered.
>>> Here's why: Whom do we have speaking on behalf of e
On 12-09-19, at 10:05 , Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 9/19/12 3:56 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
>> I would agree with Peter's list but would ask that Ian Lynch be considered.
>> Here's why: Whom do we have speaking on behalf of education and ecosystem
>> development? As I'm not on this list—and
om: Andrew Rist [mailto:andrew.r...@oracle.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 16:00
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PMC] Proposed PMC List
(top posting after private messages - I cannot describe the shame I
feel... ;-)
I have an option that I believe will handle Andrea
On 9/19/12 3:56 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
> I would agree with Peter's list but would ask that Ian Lynch be considered.
> Here's why: Whom do we have speaking on behalf of education and ecosystem
> development? As I'm not on this list—and I'm not suggesting I ought to be—I
> think that someo
On 9/18/2012 2:11 AM, Andrew Rist wrote:
This is the discussion thread - reply to the other thread with your list!
I am opening up a thread for Proposed PMC Lists.
* I have included below the last pass of the Active/Inactive/Retired
list. This is for reference, as nothing in that list is
Andrew Rist wrote:
If anyone is concerned about sending their list to ooo-dev, you can send
it to Ross ( rgardler at apache) instead, and at the end of the period
(next Sunday), he will send an anonymized summary
Perfect. This is a simple, efficient solution that will help people who
prefer no
Here is my ten.
David Fisher (wave)
Donald P. Harbison (dpharbison)
Drew Jensen (atjensen)
Ian Lynch (ingotian)
Kazunari Hirano (khirano)
Louis Suarez-Potts (louis)
Pedro Giffuni (pfg)
Peter Junge (pj)
RGB.ES (rgb-es)
Yang Shih-Ching (imacat)
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:00 AM, Andrew Rist wrote:
Andrew, and all,
I am tremendously flattered that my name has shown up on a couple of
short lists, but (like Dennis) I am announcing my retirement from the
PMC business. PMC membership is basically a "people" job, and I am not a
"people" person. Worse, some technical skills are required to per
(top posting after private messages - I cannot describe the shame I
feel... ;-)
I have an option that I believe will handle Andrea's concerns. I have
spoken with Ross and he is amenable to receiving Proposed PMC entries
off list.
If anyone is concerned about sending their list to ooo-dev, yo
On 17/09/2012 Andrew Rist wrote:
* This is not a vote. This is a search for consensus. Please no '-1'
replies. Let's see what this process produces, and then discuss
from there.
It seems that the process is working quite well, and that we are on the
right way to bootstrap a PMC by consensus.
I was thinking that it was similar to [VOTE] and [DISCUSS][VOTE] threads
that often go on simultaneously.
I look at this as more of a poll, though, with no binding output.
A.
On 9/17/2012 1:26 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
I object to the simultaneous discuss with proposed lists at the same time ther
I object to the simultaneous discuss with proposed lists at the same time there
is activity in your original thread. There is a division of attention. This is
unfortunate which thread gets a substantive response?
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 17, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:
> This is th
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
> Hi Dave;
>
> What details do you need? :)
>
> I see it as a interesting approach:
> - Take 10 people that you think should be in the PMC.
> - Don't include yourself.
> - Add everyone that hits the radar after a week.
>
>
> we have a new PMC b
Hi Dave;
What details do you need? :)
I see it as a interesting approach:
- Take 10 people that you think should be in the PMC.
- Don't include yourself.
- Add everyone that hits the radar after a week.
we have a new PMC by direct consensus ;).
>
> From: Dave
On 9/17/12, Andrew Rist wrote:
> One thing I think it is important to point out is that this is not a
> proposal for the 'Final PMC' as in the ONLY ten I think belong on the PMC.
> This approach is to have everyone give up their nomination list 10
> worthy community members. Assuming all the list
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 1:30 PM
>Subject: [DISCUSS] [PMC] Proposed PMC List
>
>One thing I think it is important to point out is that this is not a
>proposal for the 'Final PMC' as in the ONLY ten I think belong on the PMC.
>This approach is to have everyone give
One thing I think it is important to point out is that this is not a
proposal for the 'Final PMC' as in the ONLY ten I think belong on the PMC.
This approach is to have everyone give up their nomination list 10
worthy community members. Assuming all the lists are not identical -
the final list
This is the discussion thread - reply to the other thread with your list!
I am opening up a thread for Proposed PMC Lists.
* I have included below the last pass of the Active/Inactive/Retired
list. This is for reference, as nothing in that list is binding.
* Everyone choose up to ten names
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