Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-07 Thread Yamil Suarez
Of Martha Driscoll Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:15 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books? Hi Jennifer, The way the system is currently designed, the expectation is that the copy data will be available even

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-06 Thread Hardy, Elaine
: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books? Mike, Yup. That is precisely it. I don’t want to have to remember to filter for “deleted”. That seems really a weird expectation, when it should have been deleted. (meaning it is not there)J And it clutters up

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-06 Thread Walz, Jennifer
...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Mike Rylander Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 10:43 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books? Jennifer, Where, other than reports that lack a filter on Is deleted, are these items showing up? Thanks

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-06 Thread Martha Driscoll
: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books? Oh yeah, they reappear like fleas. It's one reason I don't like obliterating, things that folks are sure they never want to see again one day suddenly are desirable the next. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Jason Stephenson jstephen

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-06 Thread Chris Sharp
Hi Jennifer, - Original Message - From: Jennifer Walz jlw...@asbury.edu Yup. That is precisely it. I don’t want to have to remember to filter for “deleted”. That seems really a weird expectation, when it should have been deleted. (meaning it is not there)☺ Just in case it

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts

2015-08-05 Thread Scott Thomas
To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts There are other issues that can come up with reporting and aged circulations but those are more workflow issues than technical ones. All of this being a very long way

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts

2015-08-05 Thread Rogan Hamby
:* Tuesday, August 04, 2015 4:44 PM *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts There are other issues that can come up with reporting and aged circulations but those are more workflow issues than technical

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-05 Thread Jason Stephenson
Funny thing about deleted copies is they come back! Just last week I was asked to undelete about 1 dozen copies that showed up in the returns. If you really delete them from the database, you can't do that. Just some food for thought. Jason -- Jason Stephenson Assistant Director for

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-05 Thread Rogan Hamby
Oh yeah, they reappear like fleas. It's one reason I don't like obliterating, things that folks are sure they never want to see again one day suddenly are desirable the next. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Jason Stephenson jstephen...@mvlc.org wrote: Funny thing about deleted copies is

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-05 Thread Walz, Jennifer
Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books? Oh yeah, they reappear like fleas. It's one reason I don't like obliterating, things that folks are sure they never want to see again one day suddenly are desirable the next. On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Jason

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-05 Thread Mike Rylander
] *On Behalf Of *Rogan Hamby *Sent:* Wednesday, August 05, 2015 10:10 AM *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books? Oh yeah, they reappear like fleas. It's one reason I don't like obliterating, things that folks are sure

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-04 Thread Rogan Hamby
*Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books? Based on another reply I think she meant more of permanently deleting than cascading a delete. I wasn't clear on that initially. I think there would be real dangers in the same scenarios Elaine brought up. As for permanently

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts

2015-08-04 Thread Rogan Hamby
There are a few different kinds of deleting in Evergreen. One is to turn on the deleted flag on the account. That doesn't do much other than hide the account from the staff client pulling it up and is relatively harmless. The other kind of deleting is obliterating the account. This is the

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-04 Thread Rogan Hamby
-ils-general [mailto: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf Of *Rogan Hamby *Sent:* Tuesday, August 04, 2015 1:33 PM *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts There are a few different kinds of deleting in Evergreen

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts

2015-08-04 Thread Rogan Hamby
-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts There are a few different kinds of deleting in Evergreen. One is to turn on the deleted flag on the account. That doesn't do much other than hide the account from the staff client pulling it up and is relatively harmless. The other kind of deleting

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts

2015-08-04 Thread Jason Stephenson
-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts There are a few different kinds of deleting in Evergreen. One is to turn on the deleted flag on the account. That doesn't do much other than hide the account from the staff client pulling it up

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-04 Thread Walz, Jennifer
To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books? Based on another reply I think she meant more of permanently deleting than cascading a delete. I wasn't clear on that initially. I think there would be real dangers in the same scenarios Elaine

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-04 Thread Rogan Hamby
Group *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books? Like delete the bib records and let it caascade down and delete all associated volumes and copies? On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Walz, Jennifer jlw...@asbury.edu wrote: All – Boy, it sure would be nice

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts

2015-08-04 Thread Rogan Hamby
There are other issues that can come up with reporting and aged circulations but those are more workflow issues than technical ones. All of this being a very long way of saying there are pros and cons with every choice. :) On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Jason Etheridge ja...@esilibrary.com

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts

2015-08-04 Thread Scott Thomas
-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Rogan Hamby Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 1:33 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts There are a few different kinds of deleting in Evergreen. One

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts

2015-08-04 Thread Jason Etheridge
Thank you for replying. One thing you mentioned has piqued my interest. It might be easier if I gave a scenario instead of trying to describe what I mean. Say, on January 2, 2016, I run a report on circulation for 2015 and then, a month later, delete many patrons some of whom had checked

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts - AND books?

2015-08-04 Thread Walz, Jennifer
University One Macklem Drive, Wilmore, KY 40390 859-858-3511 ext. 2269 jlw...@asbury.edu From: Open-ils-general [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Rogan Hamby Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 1:33 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts

2015-08-04 Thread Rogan Hamby
, 2015 1:33 PM *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting Patron Accounts There are a few different kinds of deleting in Evergreen. One is to turn on the deleted flag on the account. That doesn't do much other