Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] E-Books and item records ... again

[Hardy, Elaine]

Donald,



You can also leave off the |9 if you want all the consortium to retrieve the 
record in a search. To see how we did a record for a resource available to 
the entire consortium, check 
http://gapines.org/eg/opac/record/5737867?query=mango%20languages;qtype=keyword;locg=9
 
and then scroll down to view the MARC record.



If you just want to give the two libraries access to the same URL, I would 
suggest adding the |9 for each location to one 856 rather than multiple 
856s. I personally would only use 2 856s  if the link differed for the 2 
libraries.



Elaine



J. Elaine Hardy
PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Ste 150
Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304



404.235.7128
404.235.7201, fax
eha...@georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org/pines



From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of 
Kathy Lussier
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 10:03 AM
To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] E-Books and item records ... again



Hi Don,

It depends.

>From your question, I'm assuming you are using Located URIs since the WATS 
library can't see your electronic resources.

There is a global flag you can enable to see these electronic resources when 
scoped to the consortium (ASLAN), but they won't show up for users 
specifically searching the WATS library.

You could add a second subfield 9 with the WATS library to your 856 field. 
This would continue to display just one URL on the record, but force it to 
appear in the WATS library scope. Alternatively, you could add a second 856 
field for the WATS library if you want two URL's to display: one that should 
be used for ATS and one that should be used for WATS.

If you want the resource to appear for all branches, you could put the 
consortium in subfield 9 instead of ATS.

Kathy

On 10/06/2015 09:50 AM, Donald Butterworth wrote:

Hi Folks,

This question harkins back to the discussion we had some months ago about 
best practices for ebook; should there be an item record associated with an 
e-title? There seemed to be a consensus that an item record isn't necessary.

Here is our new scenario. We have a bib record that is already available in 
the ATS Library. The WATS Library (which is part of our consortium) wants it 
to appear in their catalog as well. How is that done if there is no attached 
item record?

Hoping this is just a newbie question.

Thanks!



Don



-- 

Don Butterworth
Faculty Associate / Librarian III
B.L. Fisher Library
Asbury Theological Seminary
don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu 

(859) 858-2227





-- 
Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
kluss...@masslnc.org 
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] E-Books and item records ... again

[Kathy Lussier]

Just providing a bit of clarification on this. If you leave off the 
subfield 9, the record will only appear in search results if you are 
using a transcendent record source.


What I was describing before was a case where you would solely be using 
Located URI's without the transcendent bib source. If you don't use 
transcendent record sources, then you can make the records appear 
consortium-wide by adding the consortium to the subfield 9.


Many consortia using Located URI's don't use transcendent record sources 
because they appear in too many places, including searches limited to 
copy locations.


The documentation at 
http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.9/_cataloging_electronic_resources_8201_8212_8201_finding_them_in_catalog_searches.html 
describes the difference between the two methods of exposing electronic 
resources.


Kathy

On 10/06/2015 10:38 AM, Hardy, Elaine wrote:


Donald,

You can also leave off the |9 if you want all the consortium to 
retrieve the record in a search. To see how we did a record for a 
resource available to the entire consortium, check 
http://gapines.org/eg/opac/record/5737867?query=mango%20languages;qtype=keyword;locg=9 
and then scroll down to view the MARC record.


If you just want to give the two libraries access to the same URL, I 
would suggest adding the |9 for each location to one 856 rather than 
multiple 856s. I personally would only use 2 856s  if the link 
differed for the 2 libraries.


/Elaine/

J. Elaine Hardy
PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
Georgia Public Library Service
1800 Century Place, Ste 150
Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304

404.235.7128
404.235.7201, fax
eha...@georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org
www.georgialibraries.org/pines

*From:*Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] *On Behalf 
Of *Kathy Lussier

*Sent:* Tuesday, October 6, 2015 10:03 AM
*To:* open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org
*Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] E-Books and item records ... again

Hi Don,

It depends.

From your question, I'm assuming you are using Located URIs since the 
WATS library can't see your electronic resources.


There is a global flag you can enable to see these electronic 
resources when scoped to the consortium (ASLAN), but they won't show 
up for users specifically searching the WATS library.


You could add a second subfield 9 with the WATS library to your 856 
field. This would continue to display just one URL on the record, but 
force it to appear in the WATS library scope. Alternatively, you could 
add a second 856 field for the WATS library if you want two URL's to 
display: one that should be used for ATS and one that should be used 
for WATS.


If you want the resource to appear for all branches, you could put the 
consortium in subfield 9 instead of ATS.


Kathy

On 10/06/2015 09:50 AM, Donald Butterworth wrote:

Hi Folks,

This question harkins back to the discussion we had some months
ago about best practices for ebook; should there be an item record
associated with an e-title? There seemed to be a consensus that an
item record isn't necessary.

Here is our new scenario. We have a bib record that is already
available in the ATS Library. The WATS Library (which is part of
our consortium) wants it to appear in their catalog as well. How
is that done if there is no attached item record?

Hoping this is just a newbie question.

Thanks!

Don


-- 


Don Butterworth
Faculty Associate / Librarian III
B.L. Fisher Library
Asbury Theological Seminary
don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu

(859) 858-2227



--
Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
kluss...@masslnc.org 
Twitter:http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier


--
Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
kluss...@masslnc.org
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier

[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] 2016 Hack-A-Way

[Rogan Hamby]

My apologies.  I hope to get some news out for the 2016 Hack-A-Way soon.
I'm corresponding with a party about an important aspect of their proposal
now and am behind because of the flash flooding this weekend in our state.
Just to give context to those in other parts of the country we had one
library lose 20% of their collection so far, another has a basement storing
historical documents with 9 inches of water and so on.
It's been kind of crazy!  But I haven't forgotten.  :)



-- 

Rogan Hamby, MLS, CCNP, MIA
Managers Headquarters Library and Reference Services,
York County Library System

“You can never get a cup of tea large enough or a book long enough to suit
me.”
― C.S. Lewis 

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] E-Books and item records ... again

[Kathy Lussier]

Hi Don,

It depends.

From your question, I'm assuming you are using Located URIs since the 
WATS library can't see your electronic resources.


There is a global flag you can enable to see these electronic resources 
when scoped to the consortium (ASLAN), but they won't show up for users 
specifically searching the WATS library.


You could add a second subfield 9 with the WATS library to your 856 
field. This would continue to display just one URL on the record, but 
force it to appear in the WATS library scope. Alternatively, you could 
add a second 856 field for the WATS library if you want two URL's to 
display: one that should be used for ATS and one that should be used for 
WATS.


If you want the resource to appear for all branches, you could put the 
consortium in subfield 9 instead of ATS.


Kathy

On 10/06/2015 09:50 AM, Donald Butterworth wrote:

Hi Folks,

This question harkins back to the discussion we had some months ago 
about best practices for ebook; should there be an item record 
associated with an e-title? There seemed to be a consensus that an 
item record isn't necessary.


Here is our new scenario. We have a bib record that is already 
available in the ATS Library. The WATS Library (which is part of our 
consortium) wants it to appear in their catalog as well. How is that 
done if there is no attached item record?


Hoping this is just a newbie question.

Thanks!

Don

--
Don Butterworth
Faculty Associate / Librarian III
B.L. Fisher Library
Asbury Theological Seminary
don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu 


(859) 858-2227


--
Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
kluss...@masslnc.org
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier

[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] E-Books and item records ... again

[Donald Butterworth]

Hi Folks,

This question harkins back to the discussion we had some months ago about
best practices for ebook; should there be an item record associated with an
e-title? There seemed to be a consensus that an item record isn't necessary.

Here is our new scenario. We have a bib record that is already available in
the ATS Library. The WATS Library (which is part of our consortium) wants
it to appear in their catalog as well. How is that done if there is no
attached item record?

Hoping this is just a newbie question.

Thanks!

Don

-- 
Don Butterworth
Faculty Associate / Librarian III
B.L. Fisher Library
Asbury Theological Seminary
don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
(859) 858-2227

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] E-Books and item records ... again

[McCanna, Terran]

Hi Donald,

I am not a cataloger, so I'm not sure if this will include the answer you are 
looking for, but the directions our libraries use for cataloging e-resources 
are publicly posted here:

http://pines.georgialibraries.org/cataloging-e-resources


Terran McCanna 
PINES Program Manager 
Georgia Public Library Service 
1800 Century Place, Suite 150 
Atlanta, GA 30345 
404-235-7138 
tmcca...@georgialibraries.org 
- Original Message -
From: "Donald Butterworth" 
To: "Evergreen Discussion Group" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 9:50:50 AM
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] E-Books and item records ... again

Hi Folks,

This question harkins back to the discussion we had some months ago about
best practices for ebook; should there be an item record associated with an
e-title? There seemed to be a consensus that an item record isn't necessary.

Here is our new scenario. We have a bib record that is already available in
the ATS Library. The WATS Library (which is part of our consortium) wants
it to appear in their catalog as well. How is that done if there is no
attached item record?

Hoping this is just a newbie question.

Thanks!

Don

-- 
Don Butterworth
Faculty Associate / Librarian III
B.L. Fisher Library
Asbury Theological Seminary
don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
(859) 858-2227

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] E-Books and item records ... again

[Donald Butterworth]

Thanks everyone. That helps a lot! -- Don

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Kathy Lussier  wrote:

> Just providing a bit of clarification on this. If you leave off the
> subfield 9, the record will only appear in search results if you are using
> a transcendent record source.
>
> What I was describing before was a case where you would solely be using
> Located URI's without the transcendent bib source. If you don't use
> transcendent record sources, then you can make the records appear
> consortium-wide by adding the consortium to the subfield 9.
>
> Many consortia using Located URI's don't use transcendent record sources
> because they appear in too many places, including searches limited to copy
> locations.
>
> The documentation at
> http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.9/_cataloging_electronic_resources_8201_8212_8201_finding_them_in_catalog_searches.html
> describes the difference between the two methods of exposing electronic
> resources.
>
> Kathy
>
>
> On 10/06/2015 10:38 AM, Hardy, Elaine wrote:
>
> Donald,
>
>
>
> You can also leave off the |9 if you want all the consortium to retrieve
> the record in a search. To see how we did a record for a resource available
> to the entire consortium, check
> http://gapines.org/eg/opac/record/5737867?query=mango%20languages;qtype=keyword;locg=9
> and then scroll down to view the MARC record.
>
>
>
> If you just want to give the two libraries access to the same URL, I would
> suggest adding the |9 for each location to one 856 rather than multiple
> 856s. I personally would only use 2 856s  if the link differed for the 2
> libraries.
>
>
>
> *Elaine*
>
>
>
> J. Elaine Hardy
> PINES & Collaborative Projects Manager
> Georgia Public Library Service
> 1800 Century Place, Ste 150
> Atlanta, Ga. 30345-4304
>
>
>
> 404.235.7128
> 404.235.7201, fax
> eha...@georgialibraries.org
> www.georgialibraries.org
> www.georgialibraries.org/pines
>
>
>
> *From:* Open-ils-general [
> mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Kathy
> Lussier
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 6, 2015 10:03 AM
> *To:* open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] E-Books and item records ... again
>
>
>
> Hi Don,
>
> It depends.
>
> From your question, I'm assuming you are using Located URIs since the WATS
> library can't see your electronic resources.
>
> There is a global flag you can enable to see these electronic resources
> when scoped to the consortium (ASLAN), but they won't show up for users
> specifically searching the WATS library.
>
> You could add a second subfield 9 with the WATS library to your 856 field.
> This would continue to display just one URL on the record, but force it to
> appear in the WATS library scope. Alternatively, you could add a second 856
> field for the WATS library if you want two URL's to display: one that
> should be used for ATS and one that should be used for WATS.
>
> If you want the resource to appear for all branches, you could put the
> consortium in subfield 9 instead of ATS.
>
> Kathy
>
> On 10/06/2015 09:50 AM, Donald Butterworth wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> This question harkins back to the discussion we had some months ago about
> best practices for ebook; should there be an item record associated with an
> e-title? There seemed to be a consensus that an item record isn't necessary.
>
> Here is our new scenario. We have a bib record that is already available
> in the ATS Library. The WATS Library (which is part of our consortium)
> wants it to appear in their catalog as well. How is that done if there is
> no attached item record?
>
> Hoping this is just a newbie question.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Don
>
>
> --
>
> Don Butterworth
> Faculty Associate / Librarian III
> B.L. Fisher Library
> Asbury Theological Seminary
> don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
> (859) 858-2227
>
>
>
> --
>
> Kathy Lussier
>
> Project Coordinator
>
> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
>
> (508) 343-0128
>
> kluss...@masslnc.org
>
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
>
>
> --
> Kathy Lussier
> Project Coordinator
> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative(508) 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
>
>


-- 
Don Butterworth
Faculty Associate / Librarian III
B.L. Fisher Library
Asbury Theological Seminary
don.butterwo...@asburyseminary.edu
(859) 858-2227