Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Reminder: Student Success Working Group
This is great Jane! Thanks very much. Bianca -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general On Behalf Of Jane Sandberg Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 2:09 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Reminder: Student Success Working Group Hi all, Two notes related to this discussion: 1) I filed a bug in launchpad to represent the desire for a standardized support script for patron loading and updating: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1786524 2) Based on Martha Driscoll's scripts, I made some modifications to the example script in the documentation to allow for updating existing patron records. The updated script should appear here next time the docs are regenerated (within 24 hours): http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/3.1/_creating_an_sql_script_for_importing_patrons.html Looking forward to further discussion of this desired functionality. -Jane On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 6:31 AM, Rogan Hamby wrote: > That's certainly possible. I do think the overlaying is something > that needs to be considered as a factor in both scenarios though. In > a perfect world things like YAOUS for things like updated expiration > dates as well for refreshed accounts. > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 10:31 AM Jane Sandberg > > wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 6:41 AM, Jason Stephenson wrote: >> > What would be better than all of these useful scripts floating >> > around would be if someone would fund development for batch patron >> > loading in the client. >> >> I agree that a GUI batch loader would be very helpful. However, >> several libraries need to batch load these patrons on a daily basis, >> since students may start programs at various times throughout the >> semester. So the nightly cron job script approach is pretty >> important for these cases, and I think it would be nice if there were >> a more standard way in Evergreen to do that particular approach. >> >> I'm wondering if we might consider including a very general, flexible >> patron batch import/update script in the support-scripts directory. >> Thoughts? >> >> >> -- >> Jane Sandberg >> Electronic Resources Librarian >> Linn-Benton Community College >> sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 >> Pronouns: she/her/hers -- Jane Sandberg Electronic Resources Librarian Linn-Benton Community College sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 Pronouns: she/her/hers
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Reminder: Student Success Working Group
Hi all, Two notes related to this discussion: 1) I filed a bug in launchpad to represent the desire for a standardized support script for patron loading and updating: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1786524 2) Based on Martha Driscoll's scripts, I made some modifications to the example script in the documentation to allow for updating existing patron records. The updated script should appear here next time the docs are regenerated (within 24 hours): http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/3.1/_creating_an_sql_script_for_importing_patrons.html Looking forward to further discussion of this desired functionality. -Jane On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 6:31 AM, Rogan Hamby wrote: > That's certainly possible. I do think the overlaying is something that > needs to be considered as a factor in both scenarios though. In a perfect > world things like YAOUS for things like updated expiration dates as well for > refreshed accounts. > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 10:31 AM Jane Sandberg > wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 6:41 AM, Jason Stephenson wrote: >> > What would be better than all of these useful scripts floating around >> > would be if someone would fund development for batch patron loading in >> > the client. >> >> I agree that a GUI batch loader would be very helpful. However, >> several libraries need to batch load these patrons on a daily basis, >> since students may start programs at various times throughout the >> semester. So the nightly cron job script approach is pretty important >> for these cases, and I think it would be nice if there were a more >> standard way in Evergreen to do that particular approach. >> >> I'm wondering if we might consider including a very general, flexible >> patron batch import/update script in the support-scripts directory. >> Thoughts? >> >> >> -- >> Jane Sandberg >> Electronic Resources Librarian >> Linn-Benton Community College >> sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 >> Pronouns: she/her/hers -- Jane Sandberg Electronic Resources Librarian Linn-Benton Community College sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 Pronouns: she/her/hers
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Reminder: Student Success Working Group
That's certainly possible. I do think the overlaying is something that needs to be considered as a factor in both scenarios though. In a perfect world things like YAOUS for things like updated expiration dates as well for refreshed accounts. On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 10:31 AM Jane Sandberg wrote: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 6:41 AM, Jason Stephenson wrote: > > What would be better than all of these useful scripts floating around > > would be if someone would fund development for batch patron loading in > > the client. > > I agree that a GUI batch loader would be very helpful. However, > several libraries need to batch load these patrons on a daily basis, > since students may start programs at various times throughout the > semester. So the nightly cron job script approach is pretty important > for these cases, and I think it would be nice if there were a more > standard way in Evergreen to do that particular approach. > > I'm wondering if we might consider including a very general, flexible > patron batch import/update script in the support-scripts directory. > Thoughts? > > > -- > Jane Sandberg > Electronic Resources Librarian > Linn-Benton Community College > sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 > Pronouns: she/her/hers >
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Reminder: Student Success Working Group
Jane-- Thanks for suggesting this. This is exactly what we would want at Niagara College. Bianca -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general On Behalf Of Jane Sandberg Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 10:31 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Reminder: Student Success Working Group On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 6:41 AM, Jason Stephenson wrote: > What would be better than all of these useful scripts floating around > would be if someone would fund development for batch patron loading in > the client. I agree that a GUI batch loader would be very helpful. However, several libraries need to batch load these patrons on a daily basis, since students may start programs at various times throughout the semester. So the nightly cron job script approach is pretty important for these cases, and I think it would be nice if there were a more standard way in Evergreen to do that particular approach. I'm wondering if we might consider including a very general, flexible patron batch import/update script in the support-scripts directory. Thoughts? -- Jane Sandberg Electronic Resources Librarian Linn-Benton Community College sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 Pronouns: she/her/hers
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Reminder: Student Success Working Group
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 6:41 AM, Jason Stephenson wrote: > What would be better than all of these useful scripts floating around > would be if someone would fund development for batch patron loading in > the client. I agree that a GUI batch loader would be very helpful. However, several libraries need to batch load these patrons on a daily basis, since students may start programs at various times throughout the semester. So the nightly cron job script approach is pretty important for these cases, and I think it would be nice if there were a more standard way in Evergreen to do that particular approach. I'm wondering if we might consider including a very general, flexible patron batch import/update script in the support-scripts directory. Thoughts? -- Jane Sandberg Electronic Resources Librarian Linn-Benton Community College sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 Pronouns: she/her/hers
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Reminder: Student Success Working Group
Hi, On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:41 AM Jason Stephenson wrote: > My understanding is that even if you use LDAP, you still need some kind > of patron record in Evergreen. I can confirm this. Koha's LDAP integration does have an option to auto-create patron records, by the way; it might be useful to replicate that in Evergreen. Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton Implementation and Services Manager Equinox Open Library Initiative phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) email: g...@equinoxinitiative.org web: https://equinoxInitiative.org direct: +1 770-709-5581 cell: +1 404-984-4366
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Reminder: Student Success Working Group
Hi all, What would be better than all of these useful scripts floating around would be if someone would fund development for batch patron loading in the client. My understanding is that even if you use LDAP, you still need some kind of patron record in Evergreen. Just my 2 ducats. Jason
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Reminder: Student Success Working Group
Those scripts are great and I used them as a basis for my student loading scripts. What these scripts don't do, however, is provide for overlay of existing records. There are decisions to make when identifying an on-file record that is a match for the incoming record. There are also decisions to make about what fields to replace with incoming data and which ones to preserve. For example we don't replace a password with incoming data because the student may have changed it from the default. In our consortium, we load patron records from multiple colleges on a regular basis. Some colleges provide a weekly file while others provide one file per semester. The workflow I have created is: 1. upload entire file into a staging table 2. update the staging records with record ID's if the student is already in the database (match point is ident_value) 3. update the usr, address, and card records for those already on file 4. remove the matched records from the staging table 5. assume the remaining are new and load them. Sometimes that is not the case and we have to fix by hand. Martha Driscoll, Systems Manager North of Boston Library Exchange www.noblenet.org On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 3:53 AM Linda Jansova wrote: > Hi, > > Although I have not used it myself yet, I do believe you can batch > import patron records to Evergreen using SQL scripts such as those > available from the official documentation: > > http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/3.1/_creating_an_sql_script_for_importing_patrons.html > . > > Linda > > On 06/25/2018 05:40 PM, Bianca Parisi wrote: > > Hi-- > > > > Could we please add importing batch student (patron) records to > Evergreen to the agenda? Curious to see what other institutions are doing. > We have an automated process at the college that we need rethink/redevelop. > > > > Thanks, > > Bianca > > > > Bianca Parisi, MLIS > > Libraries and Learning Commons Technology Coordinator > > > > Niagara College, Welland Campus Library > > 100 Niagara College Blvd. Welland, ON L3C 7L3 > > (905) 735-2211 ext.7404 > > http://nclibraries.niagaracollege.ca/library > > bpar...@niagaracollege.ca > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Open-ils-general < > open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org> On Behalf Of Jane > Sandberg > > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:59 AM > > To: Evergreen Discussion Group < > open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org> > > Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Reminder: Student Success Working Group > > > > Hi colleagues, > > > > One last reminder about today's Student Success Working Group meeting. > > We'll talk about citations, course reserves, and the Web client. > > > > It will be held at 10am Pacific / 11am Mountain / 12pm Central / 1pm > Eastern on the Zoom platform. You can use this link to access the > > meeting: https://linnbenton.zoom.us/j/938431327. You can also access > the meeting via phone. > > > > An agenda is here: > > > https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=student_success_working_group:agenda_2018-06-25 > . > > Please feel free to add to it, or to let me know of additional topics > you'd like to discuss. > > > > Student Success Working Group meetings are open to everybody, and have a > particular focus on libraries that serve students at the primary, > secondary, and post-secondary levels. > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Jane Sandberg > wrote: > >> Hi colleagues, > >> > >> The Evergreen Student Success Working Group will hold its next meeting > >> on Monday, 25 June. > >> > >> It will be held at 10am Pacific / 11am Mountain / 12pm Central / 1pm > >> Eastern on the Zoom platform. You can use this link to access the > >> meeting: https://linnbenton.zoom.us/j/938431327. You can also access > >> the meeting via phone. > >> > >> An agenda is here: > >> > https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=student_success_working_group:agenda_2018-06-25 > . > >> Please feel free to add to it, or to let me know of additional topics > >> you'd like to discuss. > >> > >> Student Success Working Group meetings are open to everybody, and have > >> a particular focus on libraries that serve students at the primary, > >> secondary, and post-secondary levels. > >> > >> > >>-Jane > >> > >> -- > >> Jane Sandberg > >> Electronic Resources Librarian > >> Linn-Benton Community College > >> sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 > >> Pronouns: she/her/hers > > > > > > -- > > Jane Sandberg > > Electronic Resources Librarian > > Linn-Benton Community College > > sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 > > Pronouns: she/her/hers > >
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Reminder: Student Success Working Group
Hi, Although I have not used it myself yet, I do believe you can batch import patron records to Evergreen using SQL scripts such as those available from the official documentation: http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/3.1/_creating_an_sql_script_for_importing_patrons.html. Linda On 06/25/2018 05:40 PM, Bianca Parisi wrote: Hi-- Could we please add importing batch student (patron) records to Evergreen to the agenda? Curious to see what other institutions are doing. We have an automated process at the college that we need rethink/redevelop. Thanks, Bianca Bianca Parisi, MLIS Libraries and Learning Commons Technology Coordinator Niagara College, Welland Campus Library 100 Niagara College Blvd. Welland, ON L3C 7L3 (905) 735-2211 ext.7404 http://nclibraries.niagaracollege.ca/library bpar...@niagaracollege.ca -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general On Behalf Of Jane Sandberg Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:59 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Reminder: Student Success Working Group Hi colleagues, One last reminder about today's Student Success Working Group meeting. We'll talk about citations, course reserves, and the Web client. It will be held at 10am Pacific / 11am Mountain / 12pm Central / 1pm Eastern on the Zoom platform. You can use this link to access the meeting: https://linnbenton.zoom.us/j/938431327. You can also access the meeting via phone. An agenda is here: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=student_success_working_group:agenda_2018-06-25. Please feel free to add to it, or to let me know of additional topics you'd like to discuss. Student Success Working Group meetings are open to everybody, and have a particular focus on libraries that serve students at the primary, secondary, and post-secondary levels. On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Jane Sandberg wrote: Hi colleagues, The Evergreen Student Success Working Group will hold its next meeting on Monday, 25 June. It will be held at 10am Pacific / 11am Mountain / 12pm Central / 1pm Eastern on the Zoom platform. You can use this link to access the meeting: https://linnbenton.zoom.us/j/938431327. You can also access the meeting via phone. An agenda is here: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=student_success_working_group:agenda_2018-06-25. Please feel free to add to it, or to let me know of additional topics you'd like to discuss. Student Success Working Group meetings are open to everybody, and have a particular focus on libraries that serve students at the primary, secondary, and post-secondary levels. -Jane -- Jane Sandberg Electronic Resources Librarian Linn-Benton Community College sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 Pronouns: she/her/hers -- Jane Sandberg Electronic Resources Librarian Linn-Benton Community College sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 Pronouns: she/her/hers
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Reminder: Student Success Working Group
Hi-- Could we please add importing batch student (patron) records to Evergreen to the agenda? Curious to see what other institutions are doing. We have an automated process at the college that we need rethink/redevelop. Thanks, Bianca Bianca Parisi, MLIS Libraries and Learning Commons Technology Coordinator Niagara College, Welland Campus Library 100 Niagara College Blvd. Welland, ON L3C 7L3 (905) 735-2211 ext.7404 http://nclibraries.niagaracollege.ca/library bpar...@niagaracollege.ca -Original Message- From: Open-ils-general On Behalf Of Jane Sandberg Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:59 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Reminder: Student Success Working Group Hi colleagues, One last reminder about today's Student Success Working Group meeting. We'll talk about citations, course reserves, and the Web client. It will be held at 10am Pacific / 11am Mountain / 12pm Central / 1pm Eastern on the Zoom platform. You can use this link to access the meeting: https://linnbenton.zoom.us/j/938431327. You can also access the meeting via phone. An agenda is here: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=student_success_working_group:agenda_2018-06-25. Please feel free to add to it, or to let me know of additional topics you'd like to discuss. Student Success Working Group meetings are open to everybody, and have a particular focus on libraries that serve students at the primary, secondary, and post-secondary levels. On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Jane Sandberg wrote: > Hi colleagues, > > The Evergreen Student Success Working Group will hold its next meeting > on Monday, 25 June. > > It will be held at 10am Pacific / 11am Mountain / 12pm Central / 1pm > Eastern on the Zoom platform. You can use this link to access the > meeting: https://linnbenton.zoom.us/j/938431327. You can also access > the meeting via phone. > > An agenda is here: > https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=student_success_working_group:agenda_2018-06-25. > Please feel free to add to it, or to let me know of additional topics > you'd like to discuss. > > Student Success Working Group meetings are open to everybody, and have > a particular focus on libraries that serve students at the primary, > secondary, and post-secondary levels. > > > -Jane > > -- > Jane Sandberg > Electronic Resources Librarian > Linn-Benton Community College > sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 > Pronouns: she/her/hers -- Jane Sandberg Electronic Resources Librarian Linn-Benton Community College sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 Pronouns: she/her/hers
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Reminder: Student Success Working Group
Hi colleagues, One last reminder about today's Student Success Working Group meeting. We'll talk about citations, course reserves, and the Web client. It will be held at 10am Pacific / 11am Mountain / 12pm Central / 1pm Eastern on the Zoom platform. You can use this link to access the meeting: https://linnbenton.zoom.us/j/938431327. You can also access the meeting via phone. An agenda is here: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=student_success_working_group:agenda_2018-06-25. Please feel free to add to it, or to let me know of additional topics you'd like to discuss. Student Success Working Group meetings are open to everybody, and have a particular focus on libraries that serve students at the primary, secondary, and post-secondary levels. On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Jane Sandberg wrote: > Hi colleagues, > > The Evergreen Student Success Working Group will hold its next meeting > on Monday, 25 June. > > It will be held at 10am Pacific / 11am Mountain / 12pm Central / 1pm > Eastern on the Zoom platform. You can use this link to access the > meeting: https://linnbenton.zoom.us/j/938431327. You can also access > the meeting via phone. > > An agenda is here: > https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=student_success_working_group:agenda_2018-06-25. > Please feel free to add to it, or to let me know of additional topics > you'd like to discuss. > > Student Success Working Group meetings are open to everybody, and have > a particular focus on libraries that serve students at the primary, > secondary, and post-secondary levels. > > > -Jane > > -- > Jane Sandberg > Electronic Resources Librarian > Linn-Benton Community College > sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 > Pronouns: she/her/hers -- Jane Sandberg Electronic Resources Librarian Linn-Benton Community College sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 Pronouns: she/her/hers
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Reminder: Student Success Working Group
Hi colleagues, The Evergreen Student Success Working Group will hold its next meeting on Monday, 25 June. It will be held at 10am Pacific / 11am Mountain / 12pm Central / 1pm Eastern on the Zoom platform. You can use this link to access the meeting: https://linnbenton.zoom.us/j/938431327. You can also access the meeting via phone. An agenda is here: https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=student_success_working_group:agenda_2018-06-25. Please feel free to add to it, or to let me know of additional topics you'd like to discuss. Student Success Working Group meetings are open to everybody, and have a particular focus on libraries that serve students at the primary, secondary, and post-secondary levels. -Jane -- Jane Sandberg Electronic Resources Librarian Linn-Benton Community College sand...@linnbenton.edu / 541-917-4655 Pronouns: she/her/hers
