A PMC:
Eddie O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Brian McCallister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Patrick Linskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Craig Russell <[EMAIL P
r any java
persistence spec that pops up.
Said another way, if this project decides to implement JDO, should
it have to go into another TLP or a sub project?
-dain
On May 4, 2007, at 8:50 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
+1
Only comment is that we might consider narrowing the scope a tiny
b
"Gavindakeith"
geir
On May 4, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Phill Moran wrote:
Here are two quickly made up thoughts (Google shows no one is using
them at the
moment in open source)
"Persius" sounds a little like persistence, and is a good old name
I was thinking "North Sea" - Thinking association wit
On May 6, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Eddie O'Neil wrote:
ps -- Geir, even Google doesn't know what a "Gavindakeith" is. ;)
Oh, come on. Has anyone figured this out yet? :)
geir
his a combination of Gavin King and Mike Keith, or something
even more
scary?
-Original Message-
From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 7 May 2007 12:53 p.m.
To: open-jpa-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Graduate from Incubation
On May 6, 2007, at 10:
that said, this is the OpenJPA project, and no matter what the state
of the infra move, anything that this group does now is independent
and disconnected from the incuabtor
On May 19, 2007, at 10:15 PM, Eddie O'Neil wrote:
+1 -- assuming the code is ready to go, I agree that it's a good
i
rious
artifacts all sorted out, and then do a 1.0?
-Patrick
On 5/20/07, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
that said, this is the OpenJPA project, and no matter what the state
of the infra move, anything that this group does now is independent
and disconnected from the incuabtor
Certainly good suggestions, but we shouldn't let this slow the code
getting here - it's something we can fix after it arrives if need be.
geir
Craig L Russell wrote:
Hi,
Before you check in code, it would be nice to discuss the directory
structure to facilitate development, release, and docu
Craig L Russell wrote:
By the way, the site should reference the JIRA and wiki. I don' t think
these have been set up yet, have they?
JIRA done.
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENJPA
I put myself as the admin for now until Patrick gets an account.. I
couldn't find him
geir
Craig L Russell wrote:
Hi,
I understand that we're NOT going to change the email aliases until
graduation.
1. Everyone ok with that?
I personally don't care. I figure most people sub once (by clicking on
a website) and then after that it's or some kind of auto-complete...
2. And ca
try now
Craig L Russell wrote:
Hi Geir,
All done and checked into the site directory. I don't think I have
permission to make it live. Can you give me permission in
www.apache.org/incubator/openjpa?
Thanks,
Craig
On May 9, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
Craig L Ru
nice :)
Craig L Russell wrote:
Hi,
The site is now live at http://incubator.apache.org/openjpa
The source for the site is parallel to trunk in svn. Instructions for
editing the site are at site/HOWTO. In order to update and build the
site from sources you will need commit access to the repos
There are, but I've never seen them used by an individual project and
we're also careful about predictable load (although i wouldn't think
this would be too bad).
I assume though that anyone that is a committer would Do The Right Thing
anyway...
geir
Patrick Linskey wrote:
One suggestion
Abe White wrote:
p.p.s. Not sure if Patrick has mentioned this, but the plan is to use a
Sun-like coding style for OpenJPA. The code currently checked in uses
the old SolarMetric style (which has its roots in the style of an even
older company). So I just wanted to assure everyone that we'
Patrick Linskey wrote:
>> __
>>> _
>>> Notice: This email message, together with any attachments, may
>>> contain information of BEA Systems, Inc., its
>> subsidiaries and
>>> affiliated entities, that may be confident
1) BEA is in your signature.
2) You're world famous. We all know you work for BEA.
3) It shouldn't be Apache's problem.
4) I don't know if you noticed, but your mail client puts things you
respond to as attachments, so a "reply" drops it off and we seem to
lose the thread..
geir
Patrick Lin
Abe White wrote:
>> Consistency is good. I look forward to helping out. By the way, it
>> might be good to take a look at the OpenJPA coding guidelines at
>> http://incubator.apache.org/openjpa/ which I made up (based on the
>> Geronimo standards. The guidelines can be changed to suit our project
Wearing 'mentor hat', I'd like to emphasize that everyone here
participates as an individual - with the one exception of the diversity
requirement for incubator graduation, it's irrelevant who you work for..
geir
Patrick Linskey wrote:
> I really don't see what the big deal is about this. I thin
O Codeo, Codeo! wherefore art thou Codeo?
Deny thy license and refuse thy branding;
Or, if thou wilt not, be but sworn my openness,
And I'll no longer be proprietary...
geir
Patrick Linskey wrote:
>> I don't think the fact your using BEA e-mail is an issue.
>> Its really the legal content of the epilogue that I think has
>> people concerned.
>
> Understood.
>
>> Although someone in the ASF could probably do something I
>> think you'd be the first person they d
Patrick Linskey wrote:
>> You never included legal gibberish in your email before
>> joining BEA - how hard did you push there to not have your
>> email client send it w/ ever mail? :)
>
> *I* actually still don't include legal gibberish -- it's the BEA servers
> that add that information. And
Brian McCallister wrote:
>
> On Jun 5, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>
>>> *I* actually still don't include legal gibberish -- it's the BEA servers
>>> that add that information. And FWIW, they started adding it sometime in
>>> Febr
We should just drop this for now... We can beat up on Patrick after the
code comes :)
geir
Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>
> Brian McCallister wrote:
>> On Jun 5, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>
>>>> *I* actually still don't include legal gibberis
if it's under CDDL, it's no problem. Of course, there's the one in G as
well.
geir
Jongjin Choi wrote:
> If we use the spec api jars from glassfish maven repo,
> can we redistribute it within openjpa under Apache License?
>
> -- Jongjin
>
> On 6/15/06, Patrick Linskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
Patrick Linskey wrote:
>
> Certainly it'd be good if we could bundle what's in the spec, since
> there are a couple of classes with meaningful logic in the spec jars
> (javax.persistence.Persistence in particular).
Bundle what with the spec? :)
geir
Craig L Russell wrote:
>
> Indeed. And I believe that the released Persistence class is different
> from the Geronimo implementation (and nothing against the Geronimo folks
> but I'd rather use the glassfish implementation and fix bugs in the
> glassfish project than the Geronimo project).
>
1
restrictions on the ASF then I prefer we use the ones in Geronimo and
> trust that the TCKs will flush out the issues if there are any.
>
> Matt
>
> Craig L Russell wrote:
>> Hi Geir,
>>
>> On Jun 15, 2006, at 8:33 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>>
&
Patrick,
Can we get an update on the code contribution ?
geir
Craig L Russell wrote:
> Hi Geir,
>
> On Jun 15, 2006, at 8:33 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>
>> Craig L Russell wrote:
>>>
>>> Indeed. And I believe that the released Persistence class is different
>>> from the Geronimo implementation (and nothi
Craig L Russell wrote:
>
> On Jun 17, 2006, at 5:44 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Craig L Russell wrote:
>>> Hi Geir,
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2006, at 8:33 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Craig L Russel
Craig L Russell wrote:
> Not everyone thinks Glassfish should have separately shipped the spec
> jars...
That's amazing. I liked the JavaMail reference.
Someone should be smacking 'anonymous' upside the head with a trout for
that one.
Geir's Rule #27,324 : Absolutely never, ever, ever point to
Apologies for catching up late.
Traditionally, we do the votes in private so that people can be open in
their discussion of the individuals.
For the record, I'm +1 about this, but we should complete the discussion
on the open-jpa-private list.
geir
Patrick Linskey wrote:
> Vote closed with one
I just gotta ask
Why is one implementation "official" and another isn't if the are both
compatible?
And why not use something from a sister project to make it better?
geir
Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:
This is the official JTA 1.1 jar that is available at the java.net
repository.
+1 f
Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:
On Oct 27, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
I just gotta ask
Why is one implementation "official" and another isn't if the are both
compatible?
My understanding is that the Geronimo spec jars only exist as a stopgap
measure
Just to drive this point home, would you argue that Kodo is not as good
as the "authoritative" RI for JDO or JPA?
Why are we bothering with OpenJPA when the "authoritative" JPA exists in
Glassfish?
;)
geir
Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:
On Oct 27, 2006, at 5:09 PM,
Craig L Russell wrote:
When can Geronimo ship an upgrade to JTA 1.1 that we can use and compile
with 1.3?
You need 1.3? Cool.
geir
( I thought you just voted to abandon 1.3)
These are "goodness" that I think OpenJPA can use.
Craig
On Oct 27, 2006, at 8:24 PM, David Blevins wrote:
O
Craig L Russell wrote:
Hi Geir,
On Oct 28, 2006, at 5:52 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Craig L Russell wrote:
When can Geronimo ship an upgrade to JTA 1.1 that we can use and
compile with 1.3?
You need 1.3? Cool.
I'm speaking for the community, of which OpenJPA is one and Apach
the place to ask is on the dev@geronimo.apache.org list
geir
Thanks,
Craig
On Oct 28, 2006, at 5:52 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Craig L Russell wrote:
When can Geronimo ship an upgrade to JTA 1.1 that we can use and
compile with 1.3?
You need 1.3? Cool.
geir
( I thought you just
Craig L Russell wrote:
Q. Is there an open source version of the jar available?
A. Not yet. Since this is a specification jar, only a Java EE 5
compliant application server can publish a production-ready version of
the jar. There are not yet any open source Java EE 5 compliant
application s
Craig L Russell wrote:
javax.transaction
transaction-api
1.1
I've often wondered what will happen with respect to groupId namespace
management as the use of maven increases. I assume that in theory
anyone can publish a javax.transact
an Apache implementation". Would that
be ok, or just not add value?
Craig
On Oct 29, 2006, at 6:55 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Craig L Russell wrote:
Q. Is there an open source version of the jar available?
A. Not yet. Since this is a specification jar, only a Java EE 5
compli
#x27; spec jars in the same spot in the namespace and keep
on my maven repo, right?
(This really has nothing to do w/ OpenJPA of course, but it's an
interesting question...)
geir
Craig
On Oct 29, 2006, at 6:57 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Craig L Russell wrote:
Probably. But how often do you edit issues, rather than just comment or
such?
Maybe we need a better index in the DB?
Patrick Linskey wrote:
Hi,
Is there any way to dial down (or just remove) the 'Assign To' field in
the jira issue edit pages? It takes *forever* (well, not quite, but
nearly)
oh, figured it out
All users were possible to assign to.
Fixed.
Patrick Linskey wrote:
Hi,
Is there any way to dial down (or just remove) the 'Assign To' field in
the jira issue edit pages? It takes *forever* (well, not quite, but
nearly) to load any of the edit pages, since the page has to p
ct 30, 2006, at 3:40 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Probably. But how often do you edit issues, rather than just comment
or such?
Maybe we need a better index in the DB?
Patrick Linskey wrote:
Hi,
Is there any way to dial down (or just remove) the 'Assign To' field in
the jira i
:02 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
LOL. Yes, it's fixed...
Craig L Russell wrote:
I don't know why the assign to field has to list all 1 jira
users. Couldn't it just list the people who are allowed to be
assigned issues? IIRC, only developers in the openjpa project are
why are these zip files in the m2 repo? I thought that was just for
jars and such?
geir
Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:
OpenJPA People-
In accordance with the Incubating Releases guidelines at
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases ,
I'd like to take a third sho
On Nov 12, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
why are these zip files in the m2 repo? I thought that was just for
jars and such?
geir
Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:
OpenJPA People-
In accordance with the Incubating Releases guidelines at
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Inc
efore we've approved the artifacts, they
aren't released.
So it would probably be better not to have them there.
geir
Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:
On Nov 12, 2006, at 4:38 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
It might be argued that since we haven't voted that as an artifact
from the
Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:
Geir-
On Nov 12, 2006, at 11:38 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
I see two issues.
The first, which I'm not so sure of, is that I thought that the m2
was for jars and stuff packaged ready for maven. Maybe maven can deal
w/ deps as zips. Dunno.
AF
Add my +1 vote please.
Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:
OpenJPA People-
The final tally of the vote is:
+1 votes:
Marc Prud'hommeaux
Patrick Linskey
Kevin Sutter
Bryan Noll
Craig Russell
Eddie O'Neil
0 votes: 0
-1 votes: 0
Since we've exceeded the required minimum of +1 votes with no v
ended to vote for it.
On Nov 15, 2006, at 3:07 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Add my +1 vote please.
Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:
OpenJPA People-
The final tally of the vote is:
+1 votes:
Marc Prud'hommeaux
Patrick Linskey
Kevin Sutter
Bryan Noll
Craig Russell
Eddie O&#x
the tally".
In any case, it is added :)
On Nov 15, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Isn't there a +1 in the phrase "add my +1 vote please"? :)
Thanks
Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:
Geir-
You never actually said "+1", so I didn't include you i
Interesting - another approach that I've used when the trunk is kept in
a releasable state, you can tag the trunk for a release, ex 1.1, and
then if you need to keep working on that for bugfixes (1.1.1), you do a
branch and keep going.
Many ways to skin this cat...
Kevin Sutter wrote:
Good p
quick question - is anything different in this then the last?
geir
Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:
OpenJPA People-
The final tally of the vote is:
+1 votes:
Marc Prud'hommeaux
Kevin Sutter
Craig Russell
Patrick Linskey
0 votes: 0
-1 votes: 0
Since we've exceeded the required minimum of
tests and documentation
Eddie O'Neil wrote:
FWIW, I'm +1 on the bits (though late) but +0 on the release as we
need to get the IP stuff taken care of.
Patrick, do you recall who from BEA signed the code grant agreement?
Eddie
On 11/25/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
Abe White wrote:
1. You must use a new EntityManager for each test.
2. If you have the DataCache enabled, you'll have to clear it. You can
do that through:
((OpenJPAEntityManagerFactory) emf).getStoreCache().evictAll();
3. There is no way to clear the cache on cluster node B from cluster
Abe White wrote:
Why not add a way to clear the cluster cache?
Any developer is free to do so.
Ah - I didn't know if there was some architectural impediment.
geir
interesting. I always did it the other way - use /* */ in code,
and // for commenting out blocks :)
On Feb 2, 2007, at 4:55 PM, Patrick Linskey wrote:
Hi,
To date, almost all of the OpenJPA code uses single-line-style
comments
inside method blocks, instead of multi-line comments. I prefer
+1
On Feb 9, 2007, at 12:41 AM, Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:
It turns out that the JPA API we've been building against (the one
from https://maven-repository.dev.java.net/repository/
javax.persistence/jars/persistence-api-1.0.jar) is not actually the
final version of the spec: there are some
On Feb 12, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:
Dain-
I've been working on the TCK certification for OpenJPA. The terms
of Sun's TCK license dictate that I can't discuss the details with
any people who haven't signed Apache's NDA (see http://
www.apache.org/jcp/), but I can say tha
Yes, the problem is that it's not publicly visible. I need to solve
that...
On Feb 12, 2007, at 5:37 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote:
On 2/12/07, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Feb 12, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote:
> Dain-
>
> I&#
, 2007, at 8:10 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote:
On 2/12/07, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes, the problem is that it's not publicly visible. I need to solve
that...
http://www.apache.org/jcp names some lists
i could add some links to that page from the dev an
On Feb 13, 2007, at 11:30 AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
On Feb 13, 2007, at 5:27 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote:
On 2/13/07, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Pointing people at the page is good, but doesn't solve the problem.
i was a little confused about which
Most importantly, Patrick is buying...
geir
On Mar 19, 2007, at 9:09 PM, Patrick Linskey wrote:
Is anyone going to be there? I'll be at the first annual TSSJS OpenJPA
drinks night; hopefully, I'll not be drinking alone
-Patrick
--
Patrick Linskey
BEA Systems, Inc.
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