Re: Machine Learning , some thoughts

2018-06-26 Thread Bert Verhees
On 26-06-18 14:35, Stefan Sauermann wrote: Dear Bert, all! Sorry if this consumes excess bandwith, feel free to delete. The case you describe clearly provides a sound reason why "generic archetypes will remain necessary". I agree completely. This use case must always be satisfied. It does not

RE: Machine Learning , some thoughts

2018-06-26 Thread Rakesh Biswas
Doctors too. More here http://ubplj.org/index.php/ejpch/article/view/766 On Jun 26, 2018 9:41 PM, "Dr Evelyn Hovenga" wrote: > Bert nurses think like you, they need to view every patient within the > context of the person's response to their complaint, injury, procedures > performed or

RE: Machine Learning , some thoughts

2018-06-26 Thread Dr Evelyn Hovenga
Bert nurses think like you, they need to view every patient within the context of the person's response to their complaint, injury, procedures performed or treatments provide and the person's individual social network, family commitments, lifestyle, home and workplace environments, location

Re: Machine Learning , some thoughts

2018-06-26 Thread Stefan Sauermann
Dear Bert, You mention: "There will be some semantics. A clinician can indicate that data are from the user story, or from the observation, so, that is already some information." If there is some semantics: The archetype to store this information will then need at least some structure, and not

Aw: Re: Machine Learning , some thoughts

2018-06-26 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> But the person should be seen as more then a medical complaint, but as a > complex of conditions and lifestyle. > We need generic archetypes which can store machine generated datasets to > store information about the whole person, instead of only the medical > condition which is subject of

How to define transitions in the ISM

2018-06-26 Thread Pablo Pazos
Hi all, I'm testing the AE for a new workshop, and designed a simple state machine for and order so my students can use it as basic for more complex state machines. I have: NEW (maps to ISM PLANNED), ASSIGNED (maps to ISM PLANNED), STARTED (maps to ISM ACTIVE) and FINISHED (maps to ISM

Re: Re: Machine Learning , some thoughts

2018-06-26 Thread Bert Verhees
One short addition, why this discussion, the original point: What about machine learning? Machine learning becomes possible when many daily health related data are available. A machine can, f.e. detect deviations. Why generated archetypes? Every day there are new devices, new ideas about health,

Re: Re: Machine Learning , some thoughts

2018-06-26 Thread Bert Verhees
Thanks for supporting reactions. It is really typical in western medical science that it is very problem oriented. All EHRs, even unconventional one, even the new thinking, it is very problem oriented. All data are gathered around a problem and in relevance of a problem. All datastructures are

Re: Machine Learning , some thoughts

2018-06-26 Thread GF
I agree fully. This implies that on the fly small archetypes need to be used to store one or more aspects. Gerard Freriks +31 620347088 gf...@luna.nl Kattensingel 20 2801 CA Gouda the Netherlands > On 26 Jun 2018, at 18:10, Dr Evelyn Hovenga wrote: > > Bert nurses think like you, they