New ADL/AOM proposals to solve some old problems

2013-04-25 Thread Thomas Beale
On 25/04/2013 11:47, Diego Bosc? wrote: As you know, I'm not a big fan of domain types, so take my comments with a grain of salt ;) I understand that back in the day when archetypes were hand crafted domain types could serve a purpose. But in my opinion ADL should not be written by hand

New ADL/AOM proposals to solve some old problems

2013-04-25 Thread Thomas Beale
On 25/04/2013 12:21, Diego Bosc? wrote: PPPS: How you define an AQL filter over a domain type? How do you define an AQL filter over a date time? Well, ok, it's not quite as simple as that. With a coded term type (in particular) you want operators like 'in set', 'in subsumption', and 'in

Updated ADL, AOM 1.5 and new ODIN specifications

2013-04-25 Thread Thomas Beale
Shinji-san, thanks for the feedback. On 25/04/2013 15:39, Shinji KOBAYASHI wrote: Hi Thomas Beale, My comments: 1) Page 33, A2 JSON is no Java Simple Object Notation. JavaScript Object Notation(http://www.json.org/) oops, getting old, memory going 2) How to encode binary data

New ADL/AOM proposals to solve some old problems

2013-04-25 Thread Thomas Beale
On 25/04/2013 18:52, Diego Bosc? wrote: You can generate operations to deal with domain types, but then AQL would be openEHR specific (you can call it OQL then). What I say is Diego, there is nothing openEHR-specific today in AQL, and allowing more complex primitive types like dates or codes

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-24 Thread Thomas Beale
On 23/04/2013 19:57, Thomas Beale wrote: They are catered for http://www.w3schools.com/schema/schema_dtypes_date.asp, but I have to admit, in a pretty annoying way. But better than not being catered for... The lack of support for hh:??:?? is actually the fault of the ISO8601 standard

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-24 Thread Thomas Beale
Subject: Re: Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model From: *Tim Cook tim at mlhim.org* Date: 24/04/2013 15:29 To: For openEHR technical discussions openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org Hi Bert, On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Bert Verhees bert.verhees at rosa.nl

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-24 Thread Thomas Beale
On 24/04/2013 15:52, Thomas Beale wrote: Subject: Re: Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model From: *Tim Cook tim at mlhim.org* Date: 24/04/2013 15:29 To: For openEHR technical discussions openehr-technical at lists.openehr.org Hi Bert, On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-24 Thread Thomas Beale
On 24/04/2013 16:23, Bert Verhees wrote: On 04/24/2013 04:52 PM, Thomas Beale wrote: A, I got it. Now I think I understand. You aren't building a constraint based multi-level modelling system. You are modelling archetypes in RelaxNG. Correct? Yes, that it is. I had more difficulties

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-24 Thread Thomas Beale
On 24/04/2013 18:27, Bert Verhees wrote: On 04/24/2013 07:14 PM, Thomas Beale wrote: if you want to distribute that, it would be a great example RM for the ADL workbench - do you have it in BMM format? Yes, Thomas, of course I can show it, but I don't know what BMM is. But it is a very

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-23 Thread Thomas Beale
On 22/04/2013 23:26, Bert Verhees wrote: Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad Op 22 apr. 2013 om 23:19 heeft Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com het volgende geschreven: which rules is it breaking? As far as I know, openEHR XML documents validate normally against the schemas. yes, I

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-23 Thread Thomas Beale
On 23/04/2013 10:37, Bert Verhees wrote: have ADL, AOM, and object transforms What is missing is that xml offers validation and query out of the box, which means it has been developed and optimized for years by many companies and communities, and mostly is good quality software. ok but

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-22 Thread Thomas Beale
, and that would be good for worldwide success for the OpenEHR specifications. Ok, these are my two cents. I am very anxious to learn why the current XPath/XQuery-specifications are not good enough. Have a nice sunday. Bert. Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad Op 20 apr. 2013 om 18:29 heeft Thomas Beale

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-22 Thread Thomas Beale
On 22/04/2013 10:01, Bert Verhees wrote: On 04/22/2013 10:01 AM, Thomas Beale wrote: Hi Bert, Xquery wasn't stable in 2006 when we needed a query language. AQL was implemented by Ocean by 2007 and has been working since then, and something similar implemented by companies in Brazil. Later

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-22 Thread Thomas Beale
On 22/04/2013 21:44, Bert Verhees wrote: On 04/22/2013 02:12 PM, Thomas Beale wrote: On 22/04/2013 10:01, Bert Verhees wrote: But I understand your point, we can discuss that without bashing XML: You are saying that people may want to use another storage than XML-databases, and than

New draft of artefact identification proposal

2013-04-21 Thread Thomas Beale
For those interested in a new specification for artefact identification, I have more or less rewritten the previous draft, and created a new one based heavily on debates on these lists, experience of clinical modellers, CIMI community input, and implementation experience. It's still a draft

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-20 Thread Thomas Beale
On 19/04/2013 16:06, Randolph Neall wrote: Seref, to add to my questions: AQL is the most neglected, yet, probably one of the most important components of an openEHR implementation. Does this imply that each implementation of openEHR is sufficiently different from others as not to allow

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-20 Thread Thomas Beale
On 19/04/2013 15:17, Randolph Neall wrote: Hi Seref, In my humble opinion, AQL is the most neglected, yet, probably one of the most important components of an openEHR implementation. It is not part of the implementation, but it has been implemented by at least two vendors that I know of,

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-18 Thread Thomas Beale
On 17/04/2013 22:04, Randolph Neall wrote: Thomas, somehow I'm not finding the AQL specification. It's probably right under my nose on your specification/release page. Also, do you have any references describing the AQL processor? Did you write */that/* from scratch?? It would seem that the

Mimetype ADL

2013-04-17 Thread Thomas Beale
On 16/04/2013 07:14, Bert Verhees wrote: Hi, Is there a mimetype defined for ADL-files? There's no dedicated one; a text type should do, but remember ADL is UTF-8. I haven't looked up the rules on that but if text/plain allows UTF-8, then I would use that. - thomas

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-17 Thread Thomas Beale
I should probably point out that there are some dozens of openEHR operational deployments http://www.openehr.org/who_is_using_openehr/healthcare_providers_and_authorities, all heavily using AQL for screen population, reporting and so on. The performance is perfectly adequate in all of these

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-17 Thread Thomas Beale
On 17/04/2013 18:47, Randolph Neall wrote: The performance is perfectly adequate in all of these systems for the kinds of queries used in point of care (e.g. typically sub 1-second), and in some cases where ETL is implemented, the performance is also acceptable. It's also true that quite a

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-16 Thread Thomas Beale
semantics (which include system-based branching), there are reasonably obvious strategies for correctly resolving the confusion. - thomas On 15/04/2013 20:11, Karsten Hilbert wrote: On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 08:40:59PM +0200, Bert Verhees wrote: On 04/15/2013 06:12 PM, Thomas Beale wrote

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-16 Thread Thomas Beale
On 16/04/2013 18:55, Randolph Neall wrote: Hi Thomas, Again, you've advanced my grasp of openEHR. the change set in openEHR is actually not a single Composition, it's a set of Composition Versions, which we call a 'Contribution'. Each such Version can be: a logically new Composition (i.e.

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-15 Thread Thomas Beale
On 15/04/2013 04:07, Randolph Neall wrote: I just spent quite a few profitable hours today with ehr_im.pdf, which appears to be the main resource for understanding the Information Model or Reference Model, available for download from the CKM web site. Overall, it's a very well-written

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-15 Thread Thomas Beale
On 15/04/2013 11:54, Thomas Beale wrote: the update logic is Composition-level, and you can't commit something smaller than a Composition. The default logic is 'optimistic' meaning that there is no locking per se; instead, each request for a Composition includes the version (in meta-data

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-15 Thread Thomas Beale
On 15/04/2013 14:37, Grahame Grieve wrote: big risk - it's a combination of how likely it is, and how bad it is if they are. Generally, current location, current medication lists, summary lists are things where contention can happen. Quite often, I've seen, a cascade of things will happen

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-15 Thread Thomas Beale
On 15/04/2013 14:37, Grahame Grieve wrote: big risk - it's a combination of how likely it is, and how bad it is if they are. Generally, current location, current medication lists, summary lists are things where contention can happen. Quite often, I've seen, a cascade of things will happen

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-15 Thread Thomas Beale
On 15/04/2013 15:43, Ian McNicoll wrote: Hi Thomas, I can certainly see a situation where e.g A medication order was issued and the medication administered within a short time period, well, 'short' here probably means at least minutes... that's 'long' in computing terms. requiring dynamic

Trying to understand the openEHR Information Model

2013-04-15 Thread Thomas Beale
On 15/04/2013 17:11, Randolph Neall wrote: You've all been very helpful and clear in responding to my questions. What I've learned is that the basic unit of storage--and retrieval--is a single composition, nothing bigger, nothing smaller, and certainly not the complete roster of

Multi-level modelling - what does it mean?

2013-04-10 Thread Thomas Beale
On 09/04/2013 22:18, Tim Cook wrote: There are a large number of misconceptions and incorrect assumptions in this thread. I don't have time right now to address all of them but I will later this week. Quickly though, there are no tricks to what we do in MLHIM. Everything is 100% W3C

Multi-level modelling - what does it mean?

2013-04-10 Thread Thomas Beale
On 10/04/2013 13:33, Tim Cook wrote: [reposted for Tim; hist original bounced] On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:14 AM, Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote: it's similar, but misses the crucial distinction between archetypes and templates. Without that there is no library of re

Multi-level modelling - what does it mean?

2013-04-10 Thread Thomas Beale
Tim, Looking at the extract below, this MLHIM model would be hard to use as a basis for generating source code facades, WSDL, JSON UI form specifications, and other things we regularly generate downstream from templates. - thomas On 10/04/2013 14:01, Timothy W. Cook wrote: I would like to

Multi-level modelling - what does it mean?

2013-04-10 Thread Thomas Beale
On 10/04/2013 15:46, Tim Cook wrote: On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote: Tim, Looking at the extract below, this MLHIM model would be hard to use as a basis for generating source code facades, WSDL, JSON UI form specifications

Multi-level modelling - what does it mean?

2013-04-10 Thread Thomas Beale
On 10/04/2013 16:42, Randolph Neall wrote: The real question thus comes down to what level of thought the nameable components of a model should express. If the entire model could be understood as a tree, how complex should the named branches of that model be, and how enduring should the

openEHR wiki back online; need to watch performance

2013-04-09 Thread Thomas Beale
things. thanks for your patience. - thomas beale

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-08 Thread Thomas Beale
I am always somewhat surprised as well. Thanks by the way for your clarifying notes, that is exactly how I would summarise the discussions. - thomas On 07/04/2013 22:08, Randolph Neall wrote: Hi Thomas, I'm surprised that at this advanced stage of openEHR's maturity you'd still have to

Multi-level modelling - what does it mean?

2013-04-08 Thread Thomas Beale
To put some numbers on things... in a 2012 snapshot of the openEHR.org CKM archetypes there are: * 267 compiling (i.e. technically valid archetypes) o including 94 specialised ones * In these archetypes there are: o 3208 'archetypable' nodes (i.e. LOCATABLE nodes) o of

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-07 Thread Thomas Beale
[This is Tim again, initially bounced] And that is the issue, and what is at the root of this dispute. Tim does not see the point of specialization or redefinition, which, in my opinion, is why he can hold forth so strongly for XML. Randy Neall You are mostly correct. It isn't that I

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-07 Thread Thomas Beale
On 06/04/2013 23:50, Thomas Beale wrote: [This is Tim again, initially bounced] And that is the issue, and what is at the root of this dispute. Tim does not see the point of specialization or redefinition, which, in my opinion, is why he can hold forth so strongly for XML. Randy Neall You

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-07 Thread Thomas Beale
On 06/04/2013 23:50, Thomas Beale wrote: [This is Tim again, initially bounced] And that is the issue, and what is at the root of this dispute. Tim does not see the point of specialization or redefinition, which, in my opinion, is why he can hold forth so strongly for XML. Randy Neall You

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-07 Thread Thomas Beale
On 07/04/2013 00:35, Bert Verhees wrote: That's expedient, but it's also a guarantee of non-interoperability. As far as I can see, also from my experience, nor OpenEHR, nor MLHIM will be the only datamodel system on the world. Cooperation with other systems will always need a message-format.

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-07 Thread Thomas Beale
On 07/04/2013 12:11, Grahame Grieve wrote: Hi Tom You ask: Is there a better meta-architecture available? When actually the question at hand appears to be: is it even worth having one? I don't think that this is a question with a technical answer. It's a question of what you are

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-06 Thread Thomas Beale
On 05/04/2013 13:03, Thomas Beale wrote: [original post by Tim bounced; reposting manually for him] On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote: if you mean the competing inheritance models - I have yet to meet any XML specialist who thinks

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress

2013-04-04 Thread Thomas Beale
On 04/04/2013 12:09, Tim Cook wrote: well, since the primary openEHR projects are in Java, Ruby, C#, PHP, etc, I don't see where the disconnect between the projects and the talent pool is. I think if you look at the 'who is using it' pages, and also the openEHR Github projects, you won't find

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress

2013-03-29 Thread Thomas Beale
On 29/03/2013 14:15, Tim Cook wrote: Hi Tom, I have amended the Subject Line since the thread has diverged a bit. [comments inline] On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote: one of the problems with LinkEHR (which does have many good

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress

2013-03-29 Thread Thomas Beale
On 29/03/2013 16:19, Thomas Beale wrote: Hi Tim, I don't see any problem here. The extant open 'reference implementation' of openEHR has been in Java for years now, and secondarily in Ruby (openEHR.jp http://openehr.jp/) and C# (codeplex.com http://openehr.codeplex.com/). The original

openEHR Subversion = Github move progress

2013-03-22 Thread Thomas Beale
repositories https://github.com/openEHR. Any questions like 'where did xxx go?', feel free to post them here. - thomas beale -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openehr.org/pipermail/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20130321

ADL Workbench command line tool

2013-03-15 Thread Thomas Beale
On 14/03/2013 19:18, Bert Verhees wrote: On 03/14/2013 03:53 PM, Thomas Beale wrote: I had a feeling someone would want this ok, it's next up. Didn't you ever need it? well normally we just use the workbench. Path extraction has been there for probably 8 years... - thomas

ADL Workbench command line tool

2013-03-14 Thread Thomas Beale
On 14/03/2013 10:53, Jos? Hil?rio Almeida wrote: Thank you for your work on this tool. A powerful path extraction interface would be very useful, especially for returning leaf paths. That would be very handy. I had a feeling someone would want this ok, it's next up. - thomas

ADL Workbench command line tool

2013-03-13 Thread Thomas Beale
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Erik Sundvall's PhD Defence - Online Edition

2013-02-15 Thread Thomas Beale
On 15/02/2013 14:05, Mikael Nystr?m wrote: Dear all, The defense is available at http://youtu.be/0lpHFG3Dhts. Dipak Kalra was not present at the defense in Link?ping in person due to flight cancellations, so he did his part remote from Amsterdam. Erik passed the defense and there is no

UML 1.0.1 online HTML fixed

2013-02-06 Thread Thomas Beale
The online HTML UML web tree has been fixed. It's the link marked below, for those who may not remember how to get to it now: -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

Questions about commit and AUDIT_DETAILS

2013-01-30 Thread Thomas Beale
On 30/01/2013 08:07, Erik Sundvall wrote: Hi! On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 9:48 PM, Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com mailto:thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote: The point isn't for the server to know what is committed to itself, but for other systems to know

Questions about commit and AUDIT_DETAILS

2013-01-29 Thread Thomas Beale
On 23/01/2013 15:59, pablo pazos wrote: Hi Bert / Sam, Thanks for your answers. The idea is that the new COMPOSITION will be available to the EHR SYSTEM when it arrives to the SERVER. I understand the difference between finishing a COMPOSITION (e.g. signing and setting the end time) and

Handling internalization for openEHR terminology xml. Do we need a schema update?

2013-01-29 Thread Thomas Beale
On 29/01/2013 22:18, Seref Arikan wrote: Greetings, Ian and I have been working on internalization of openEHR terminology XML for a project. Being the lazy person that I am, I wrote an Xquery snippet to reuse the existing work in the Archetype Editor's terminology file, which is quite

ADLWB 1.5.0 1826 Beta 8 exception on File Open

2013-01-25 Thread Thomas Beale
Hi Pablo, can you please raise an issue report here http://www.openehr.org/issues/browse/AWBPR, with the usual details of platform., how you installed etc? thanks - thomas On 25/01/2013 17:44, pablo pazos wrote: Hi all, I just opened the ADLWB, and if the first thing I do is File Open,

Questions about commit and AUDIT_DETAILS

2013-01-23 Thread Thomas Beale
On 23/01/2013 05:11, pablo pazos wrote: Hi all, this question is related t oa previous thread: http://lists.openehr.org/pipermail/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/2012-November/007392.html I just want to check a couple of things to validate my implementation of an openEHR Server.

ADL Worbench for Linux

2013-01-18 Thread Thomas Beale
-technical_lists.openehr.org -- Ocean Informatics *Thomas Beale Chief Technology Officer, Ocean Informatics http://www.oceaninformatics.com/* Chair Architectural Review Board, /open/EHR Foundation http://www.openehr.org/ Honorary Research Fellow, University College London http://www.chime.ucl.ac.uk

ADL Worbench for Linux

2013-01-18 Thread Thomas Beale
On 18/01/2013 10:55, Seref Arikan wrote: I know it is cross platform :) That is why I wrote, developed under Windows, which implies that the developer might have used Windows style relative paths for images. nope, Peter is way smarter than that ;-) See this kind of code -

ADL Worbench for Linux

2013-01-18 Thread Thomas Beale
Bert, I just did a new install on an up-to-date Ubuntu installation (Dell laptop, very standard) and it ran out of the box, no problems. (The docking arrangement of the windows is a bit weird, but can be manually adjusted, and the tool remembers the last state over sessions). The exception

ADL Worbench for Linux

2013-01-18 Thread Thomas Beale
On 18/01/2013 15:05, Bert Verhees wrote: On 01/18/2013 02:23 PM, Thomas Beale wrote: git clone of https://github.com/openEHR/adl-archetypes.git somewhere convenient Thanks for the link, very useful for me :-) Bert ___ openEHR-technical mailing

website improvements, including openEHR system deployments around the world

2013-01-16 Thread Thomas Beale
://www.openehr.org/aboutthiswebsite. - thomas beale -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openehr.org/pipermail/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20130116/357f293e/attachment-0001.html

csingleattribute and existence

2013-01-07 Thread Thomas Beale
On 06/01/2013 20:29, Bert Verhees wrote: On 01/06/2013 08:44 PM, Thomas Beale wrote: Hi Bert, existence is a property of CAttribute (multiple or single). It indicates if the attribute value (i.e. some object) must exists or can be null. How about this: Since its function

csingleattribute and existence

2013-01-07 Thread Thomas Beale
On 07/01/2013 09:32, Bert Verhees wrote: On 01/07/2013 02:40 AM, Thomas Beale wrote: I think, Thomas, the logic is as follows, the CSingleAttribute can, as in the specs, have one or more then one children (CObjects). Only one can be chosen, the others are alternatives

csingleattribute and existence

2013-01-07 Thread Thomas Beale
, I will gladly discuss them. Bert ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org -- Ocean Informatics *Thomas Beale Chief Technology

defaultValue/assumedValue in CPrimitive.

2013-01-07 Thread Thomas Beale
On 07/01/2013 13:52, Bert Verhees wrote: Please can some one short explain what the difference is between assumedValue and defaultValue in CPrimitive? Thanks Bert Assumed value. assumed value is a value you set in the archetype. If no value (at all) occurs in the data for that item (e.g.

csingleattribute and existence

2013-01-06 Thread Thomas Beale
Hi Bert, existence is a property of CAttribute (multiple or single). It indicates if the attribute value (i.e. some object) must exists or can be null. occurrences is a property of a CObject, and indicates how many instances of that object constraint can exist in the data. It can be used on

openEHR website tip of the day - CKM comments

2012-12-28 Thread Thomas Beale
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New website - tip of the day

2012-12-21 Thread Thomas Beale
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openEHR icons - available in reference-models Git repo

2012-12-20 Thread Thomas Beale
I have uploaded the icons I used in the ADL Workbench into the reference-models Git repo https://github.com/openEHR/reference-models. They can be found for the various reference models at locations like this

translating the openEHR website

2012-12-19 Thread Thomas Beale
Hi Wang, we won't (we need translators!) - we have now quite a few offers and diverse ideas on how to technically enable the translation. We need to experiment with these and see what works. So my suggestion is - hold off until we make a bit more progress on that. Ideally we would publish

translating the openEHR website [From Gunnar Klein]

2012-12-18 Thread Thomas Beale
On 18/12/2012 02:26, Shinji KOBAYASHI wrote: Hi Thomas and Gunner, Having translated portal would appeal wider range, especially for beginners. On the other hand, openEHR.jp site has another accountability as the domestic artefacts repository. We can have two sites for their

translating the openEHR website [From Gunnar Klein]

2012-12-18 Thread Thomas Beale
On 18/12/2012 09:52, Shinji KOBAYASHI wrote: Hi Thomas, I forked GitHub web-site project. Can I make /jp sub-directory to work under top? Could you please point it out where should be? Japanese translation would appeal capability of translation much, I will try it. Shinji, it might be a

translating the openEHR website [From Gunnar Klein]

2012-12-18 Thread Thomas Beale
On 18/12/2012 12:46, Bert Verhees wrote: On 12/18/2012 10:14 AM, Thomas Beale wrote: @Bert: thanks for the offer. Shinji can be the first one to take the pain, hopefully we'll have it worked out for you in a week's time. Ok, more than a week's time. Some warm wine drinking may slow things

translating the openEHR website [From Gunnar Klein]

2012-12-18 Thread Thomas Beale
of translation much, I will try it. Regards, Shinji 2012/12/18 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com: accountability ___ openEHR-technical mailing list openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.org http://lists.openehr.org/mailman

translating the openEHR website

2012-12-18 Thread Thomas Beale
On 18/12/2012 12:49, Athanasios Anastasiou wrote: Hello Thomas and everyone Just a quick question/suggestion: Are we really talking about fundamentally different websites or just translations? Here I am talking about a translation of (parts of) the central website (as Gunnar said, some

translating the openEHR website

2012-12-17 Thread Thomas Beale
we are trying to work out the best approach to translations of the openEHR website. The mechanism for the website itself is probably straightforward: * for each language xx, we create a copy of the current website under a directory /xx/, and push this to the Github repo that contains the

New website - tip of the day

2012-12-17 Thread Thomas Beale
Fixes: * we now have tooltips on links at the bottom (the ones that are not necessarily obvious from their name, e.g. GitHub) * Some links have been renamed to have 'CKM' in the title, to make it more obvious where they point * CKM link at the top right, next to the 'wiki' link -

ADL - syntax highlight for Notepad++

2012-12-05 Thread Thomas Beale
On 04/12/2012 16:23, pablo pazos wrote: Hi all, I've uploaded the ADL syntax highlighter for Notepad++ at the spanish openEHR portal: http://openehr.org.es/cms2/display/recursos This will be our main resource page, you are welcome to contribute. Pablo, do you want to add some links to the

Questions about the XSD-files.

2012-11-28 Thread Thomas Beale
I'm unclear on the outcome of this confusing discussion. For the lack of demographic XSD, what should be used is an XSD that is compatible with the existing ones. For the other questions, they're at a level of detail I don't know in XSD. But they should be answerable one way or the other. So

Questions about the XSD-files.

2012-11-27 Thread Thomas Beale
On 26/11/2012 17:02, Bert Verhees wrote: Thanks Athanasios and Diego, It is easier to download then to write it myself ;-) But still I wonder why the OpenEHR-community is not offering these. I think it just did ;-) Early in 2013, the specifications will be start being revamped. That will

lessons from Intermountain Health, and starting work on openEHR 2.x

2012-10-08 Thread Thomas Beale
On 05/10/2012 11:13, Gerard Freriks wrote: See below. On 4 Oct 2012, at 18:07, Thomas Beale wrote: On 03/10/2012 23:26, Gerard Freriks wrote: I just care about getting one model In the case of 13606_one good model_that describes a generic interface for EHR communication, also

Question about Composition.category

2012-10-08 Thread Thomas Beale
Pablo cam you please raise an issue here http://www.openehr.org/issues/browse/SPECPR so we don't forget to address this? thanks - thomas On 04/10/2012 23:36, pablo pazos wrote: Hi Ian, Thanks for the answer. I think having process etc in the specs makes a little difficult to

Understanding how to commit contributions to an EHR Server with XML

2012-10-08 Thread Thomas Beale
On 06/10/2012 16:13, pablo pazos wrote: Hi all, I found there is no CONTRIBUTION XSD defined on the openEHR XDS, and if it exists, I can't commit CONTRIBUTIONs using only one XML message, because CONTRIBUTION references (using OBJECT_REF) the VERSIONs I need to commit, but each VERSION

Understanding how to commit contributions to an EHR Server with XML

2012-10-08 Thread Thomas Beale
On 08/10/2012 09:02, Erik Sundvall wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com mailto:thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote: to enable this, a small piece of extra XSD would be needed, to define a contribution as a single XML

lessons from Intermountain Health, and starting work on openEHR 2.x

2012-10-04 Thread Thomas Beale
On 13/09/2012 10:15, David Moner wrote: Hi, 2012/9/13 Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se mailto:erik.sundvall at liu.se It would be great if e.g most of the future ISO 13606 version could be a true subset of openEHR instead of the current confusing situation. This is

lessons from Intermountain Health, and starting work on openEHR 2.x

2012-10-04 Thread Thomas Beale
On 03/10/2012 23:02, Thomas Beale wrote: On 13/09/2012 10:15, David Moner wrote: Hi, 2012/9/13 Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se mailto:erik.sundvall at liu.se It would be great if e.g most of the future ISO 13606 version could be a true subset of openEHR instead

lessons from Intermountain Health, and starting work on openEHR 2.x

2012-10-04 Thread Thomas Beale
On 03/10/2012 23:26, Gerard Freriks wrote: I just care about getting one model In the case of 13606 _one good model _that describes a generic interface for EHR communication, also, for communication with other proprietary EHR solutions. In the case of openEHR _one good model_ that

CKM archetypes for easy reference in ADL Workbench

2012-10-02 Thread Thomas Beale
kind soul will help. It's easy when you know how. In the web view of this SVN repo, it looks like this: You can see that most compile here (just press F7 to do a compile once you are configured): - thomas beale * * -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed

License for CKM icons?

2012-09-26 Thread Thomas Beale
On 26/09/2012 12:45, Diego Bosc? wrote: Thanks, the ones I was worried about were the model related ones. We have a student working on a little project that I hope we can show soon :) * * I'll look into moving them into knowledge2 ASAP, but for now, just use 'em - thomas

lessons from Intermountain Health, and starting work on openEHR 2.x

2012-09-15 Thread Thomas Beale
On 13/09/2012 05:15, David Moner wrote: Hi, 2012/9/13 Erik Sundvall erik.sundvall at liu.se mailto:erik.sundvall at liu.se It would be great if e.g most of the future ISO 13606 version could be a true subset of openEHR instead of the current confusing situation. This is

lessons from Intermountain Health, and starting work on openEHR 2.x

2012-09-14 Thread Thomas Beale
On 13/09/2012 03:48, Erik Sundvall wrote: Hi! On 12/09/2012 17:43, Heath Frankel wrote: We need a depreciation scheme that allows us to say that something is no longer recommended for use in a particular release and removed in a subsequent release. This gives implementations time to

lessons from Intermountain Health, and starting work on openEHR 2.x

2012-09-12 Thread Thomas Beale
On 12/09/2012 17:43, Heath Frankel wrote: We need a depreciation scheme that allows us to say that something is no longer recommended for use in a particular release and removed in a subsequent release. This gives implementations time to migrate to the new recommendation. It also means we

lessons from Intermountain Health, and starting work on openEHR 2.x

2012-09-06 Thread Thomas Beale
On 06/09/2012 15:44, Sam Heard wrote: Hi Tom I absolutely agree with your summary. Technically I think making use of obsolescence is the appropriate way to go in software. No competent vendor will put out an operating system, compiler or software that breaks existing tools without doing

Entities Relationships within the EHR

2012-09-04 Thread Thomas Beale
Hi Athanasios, On 04/09/2012 04:56, Athanasios Anastasiou wrote: Hello everyone I am coming across an openEHR use case for which there seem to be more than one ways to deal with and that i would appreciate your help with. The main question is this: When creating COMPOSITIONs that

lessons from Intermountain Health, and starting work on openEHR 2.x

2012-09-04 Thread Thomas Beale
for those interested, I have been spending this month with Dr Stan Huff's group at Intermountain Health in Salt lake City. I have at least a dozen potential change requests / issues for openEHR. Mostly small, but important in their way. That has come from the evidence of their systems, and

Entities Relationships within the EHR

2012-09-04 Thread Thomas Beale
On 04/09/2012 18:05, Heath Frankel wrote: Anthanasios, What we have Don in research based projects is use a persistent composition to record the cohort that the subject belongs too. It could be done using demographics where we have a registration relationship associated with the party but

What should AQL return in this case?

2012-08-20 Thread Thomas Beale
This is a good question. I wold summarise it as: how do I ensure an AQL query picks up proximate rather than distant objects for a given object? It depends on the data. If the only thing in the data that indicates that INSTR Y1 is related to OBS X1 is temporal proximity, then you would have

What should AQL return in this case?

2012-08-20 Thread Thomas Beale
On 20/08/2012 05:47, Seref Arikan wrote: Hi Tom, Your comments are quite helpful, but they do not belong to the context I'm asking about. I'm asking the default behaviour for returning results when no constraints are there. It may not be a meaningful use case for using AQL, but it is a

Should not node identifiers in runtime paths be mandatory?

2012-08-15 Thread Thomas Beale
On 15/08/2012 01:10, Heath Frankel wrote: Hi Seref/Thomas, Node IDs at0022 and at0023 have no semantic significance, they are just a value of a speed limit element no matter if they are in km/h or mph. These are just alternative value constraints on the value due to different units

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