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On 29/10/2010 17:18, pablo pazos wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > My opinion is the grade of adoption of a standard depend in some aspects of goverment agencies, in some of the industry and some of the academy. > > DICOM is a good example of an open standard heavily supported by the industry, that's the po

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On 29/10/2010 17:18, pablo pazos wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > My opinion is the grade of adoption of a standard depend in some > aspects of goverment agencies, in some of the industry and some of the > academy. > > DICOM is a good example of an open standard heavily supported by the > industry, that'

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chnical at openehr.org Subject: Re: Articles on Healthcare, Complexity, Change, Process, IT and the role of openEHR etc Hi Pablo I think that there is beginning to be serious industry penetration in many parts of the world. We are seeing this in the Asia

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nd other EHR related concepts between latin-american and spanish people. Best regards Pablo Pazos Gutierrez http://pablo.swp.googlepages.com/ Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 20:19:29 +0100 From: thomas.be...@oceaninformatics.com To: openehr-technical at openehr.org Subject: Re: Articles on Hea

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And none of your examples are vertical industry IT standards. Mark Bezzina for Stds Australia pointed out to me that IT vertical standards are a totally different thing to every other kind of standard. You're trying to portray Health IT as some kind of bizarre exemption, in that things are totally

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On 28/10/2010 12:22, Tim Cook wrote: > On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 12:13 +0100, Thomas Beale wrote: > >> I would certainly agree with this last statement for e-health - and it >> is a terrible way to do research. I have not encountered it in any >> other IT area, though. > Might want to re-think that one

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On 28/10/2010 11:25, Grahame Grieve wrote: > And none of your examples are vertical industry IT standards. > Mark Bezzina for Stds Australia pointed out to me that IT > vertical standards are a totally different thing to every other > kind of standard. Telecoms, to take one example, consists of ma

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On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 12:13 +0100, Thomas Beale wrote: > > I would certainly agree with this last statement for e-health - and it > is a terrible way to do research. I have not encountered it in any > other IT area, though. Might want to re-think that one Tom. Can we start with DARPA? :-) --T

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On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 21:25 +1100, Grahame Grieve wrote: > You're trying to portray Health IT as some kind of > bizarre exemption, in that things are totally done > in a weird way. But I don't think it's an exemption: I > think most IT verticals have the same problem, which > is that standards a

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Well, your specific comments certainly don't back your general statement up. Looking at the question of the other industries, what specific standard would you point to as an example we should follow, and how was it developed? Grahame On 28/10/2010, at 8:25, Thomas Beale wrote: On 27/10/2010 21:

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DARPA doesn't "do" anything. DARPA sets goals, offers money, and lets the smartest people compete to achieve the goals. On Oct 28, 2010, at 5:08 AM, Thomas Beale wrote: > On 28/10/2010 12:22, Tim Cook wrote: >> >> On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 12:13 +0100, Thomas Beale wrote: >> >>> I would certainly

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> In all other industries, the quality of standards is > measured initially against public safety and then > against criteria of effectiveness and economic qualities. it seems you mean, by market testing. If not, do you have an example? > In all other industries that i know of, standards are > cr

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On 27/10/2010 22:32, Grahame Grieve wrote: > Well, your specific comments certainly don't back your general > statement up. Looking at the question of the other industries, what > specific standard would you point to as an example we should follow, > and how was it developed? - safety goggles a

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On 27/10/2010 21:10, Grahame Grieve wrote: >> In all other industries, the quality of standards is >> measured initially against public safety and then >> against criteria of effectiveness and economic qualities. > it seems you mean, by market testing. If not, do you have an example? well yes and

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On 25/10/2010 21:59, William Goossen wrote: > Interesting comment Thomas, > > I think " official standards " have nothing to do with obsession, but > with governments that have a legal obligation to ascertain some > equality on markets, regulations, and ensuring free access and > opportunities f

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-Original Message- From: Thomas Beale To: For openEHR technical discussions Sent: Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:19 pm Subject: Re: Articles on Healthcare, Complexity, Change, Process, IT and the role of openEHR etc Hi Derek, it is very simple. Not being an official stan

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On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 10:32:08AM +0100, Thomas Beale wrote: > Sorry, I was not clear enough. I meant: if it could be shown that > certain patters over time corresponded to certain morbidities, then > in new patients (as yet undiagnosed) these patterns could be detected > early on. I see. I can

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Dear all, I have spent some time studying how doctors used an EPR using log data (Determinants of frequency and longevity of hospital encounters` data use ). I must say that some of our results were not so expected, namely the difference on th

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Sorry, I was not clear enough. I meant: if it could be shown that certain patters over time corresponded to certain morbidities, then in new patients (as yet undiagnosed) these patterns could be detected early on. - thomas On 24/10/2010 21:30, Karsten Hilbert wrote: > On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at

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On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 05:26:48AM +0100, Derek Meyer wrote: > I don't claim that all old information is useless. > > My hypothesis is that clinical care generates vast amounts of information, and > very little of this vast amount is useful.? Make that "... at any one time." > a) converts real

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On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 11:58:31AM +0100, Thomas Beale wrote: > I think that the 'pebbles & nuggets' characterisation is probably > right, although I don't think anyone knows what the balance is, It isn't even easy to (sometimes not even possible) to know what are the pebbles and what are the nug

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I think that the 'pebbles & nuggets' characterisation is probably right, although I don't think anyone knows what the balance is, i.e. at what point it ceases to be worthwhile to trawl back in time. The trouble is you get patients like a 12 yo child with a history of chronic tonsilitis that is

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Hi Derek, it is very simple. Not being an official standard has been a real problem for government agencies, obsessed with official standards. - thomas beale On 22/10/2010 17:12, Derek Meyer wrote: > Tony, > > This is very impressive piece of work. Every since I first came > across openEHR

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Late last year I said I would work on some material to help explain openEHR in the wider context of healthcare change during 2010. It has taken me longer that I originally planned but I've recently shared some articles online towards that end. http://frectal.com/book/ The articles explore issue

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On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 17:12 +0100, Derek Meyer wrote: > Tony, > > This is very impressive piece of work. Every since I first came > across openEHR I have intuitively felt that it is closer to the > 'solution' than more static attempts at standardization. So why is > progress so slow? I've appplie

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Tony, I agree thanks for the work and for sharing. W. Ed Hammond, Ph.D. Director, Duke Center for Health Informatics Derek Meyer