Re: small practice management programs

2005-12-16 Thread David Forslund
Also OpenEMed Dave Karsten Hilbert wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:47:17PM -0600, Ignacio Valdes wrote: Active projects: FreeMed, ClearHealth, OpenEMR, VistA, OSCAR, SQLclinic I'm sure I've left some out. -- IV Yes, GNUmed. Karsten begin:vcard fn:David Forslund

Re: small practice management programs

2005-12-16 Thread David Forslund
thought OpenEMed was middleware and not an application per se could you tell us more about your clinical/administrative functionality? Joseph David Forslund wrote: Also OpenEMed Dave Karsten Hilbert wrote: On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:47:17PM -0600, Ignacio Valdes wrote: Active

Re: Eclipse open health framework proposal

2005-11-29 Thread David Forslund
I was invited earlier, but was unable to join the initial meeting which set this up. I may yet join the effort. Dave Adrian Midgley wrote: http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipse-ohf/main.php anyone involved? yet. begin:vcard fn:David Forslund n:Forslund;David org:Los Alamos

Re: recent email

2005-04-25 Thread David Forslund
Some old(one year ago) email from me has reappeared on this list. I'm not sure of the source of the email, but I apologize for the additional unnecessary noise on the list. Dave begin:vcard fn:David Forslund n:Forslund;David org:Los Alamos National Laboratory;CCS-DO adr;dom:;;MS B265;Los

Re: hxp, was Re: domain-expert modifiable systems, was RE: Typed untyped languages

2005-04-24 Thread David Forslund
How does this make it a standards body? I would characterize it as an effort to promote a particular methodology for systems to work together, but that is not necessarily make it a standards body. If that were the case, then I could declare OpenEMed a standards body. What it is doing is

Re: hxp, was Re: domain-expert modifiable systems, was RE: Typed untyped languages

2005-04-24 Thread David Forslund
At 03:48 PM 4/26/2004, Andrew Ho wrote: General interfacing must to be evaluated by cost and performance of specific interface implementations. Somehow and somewhere, the general interface must be customized to fit specific use-case requirements. Is it possible that previous interfacing

Re: hxp, was Re: domain-expert modifiable systems, was RE: Typed untyped languages

2005-04-24 Thread David Forslund
At 07:44 PM 4/26/2004, Horst Herb wrote: On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:02, Tim Churches wrote: Basically, apart from a remote procedure call protocol, you also need an interface description protocol, a web service directory/discovery protocol, and a web service security and authentication protocol

Re: hxp, was Re: domain-expert modifiable systems, was RE: Typed untyped languages

2005-04-24 Thread David Forslund
At 10:33 PM 4/26/2004, Andrew Ho wrote: On Mon, 26 Apr 2004, David Forslund wrote: At 03:48 PM 4/26/2004, Andrew Ho wrote: General interfacing must to be evaluated by cost and performance of specific interface implementations. Somehow and somewhere, the general interface must be customized

Re: hxp, was Re: domain-expert modifiable systems, was RE: Typed untyped languages

2005-04-24 Thread David Forslund
At 07:15 AM 4/27/2004, Adrian Midgley wrote: On Tuesday 27 April 2004 01:28, David Forslund wrote: ... adoption ... HL7's primary problem, in my mind, is its lack of sufficient constraints, One is required to read the implementation manual. I think the thing I would most like to change

Re: hxp, was Re: domain-expert modifiable systems, was RE: Typed untyped languages

2005-04-24 Thread David Forslund
available to anyone. But it is a business and must pay its bills. Both HL7 and OMG are non-profits, but this doesn't mean they aren't businesses. Dave At 12:10 PM 4/28/2004, Horst Herb wrote: On Wednesday 28 April 2004 04:06, David Forslund wrote: I completely agree with you. I keep bringing this problem

Re: Australian Health Connect

2005-04-24 Thread David Forslund
What do folks down under know about this work? I would appreciate comments. http://www.health.gov.au/healthconnect/hc_architecture/sa_consult.html There was a note about this on this list over a year ago, but I'm interested in people's assessment. Thanks, Dave

Re: HXP

2005-04-24 Thread David Forslund
At 06:14 AM 4/30/2004, Adrian Midgley wrote: in fact, given that one human entitymay carry different names, sexes, dates of birth [1] from time to time, there is some merit in using one table to hold identity, the rest or majority of the fields being linked from other tables, whose key is the

Re: HXP

2005-04-24 Thread David Forslund
I've attached an XML schema for the PIDS data model that we use. It is completely consistent with the OMG PIDS specification. This entire issue of flexible dynamic traits vs rigidly defined traits was discussed in great detail during the development of this RFP. As a result we agree very well

Re: HXP

2005-04-24 Thread David Forslund
far beyond healthcare. Also remember that the PIDS specification lets you ask it what are the properties of any particular trait type, so that a conformant system can not only tell the client what is supported but something about what the particular traits mean. On Friday 30 April 2004 09:46, David

Re: HXP

2005-04-24 Thread David Forslund
I have some questions about jabber. Can a non-jabber client talk to a jabber server with xml-rpc? Or does one commit to the jabber protocol completely? Why not use one of the other standard messaging services? With jabber, why use xml-rpc at all? Dave At 01:15 AM 5/1/2004, Elpidio Latorilla

Re: HXP

2005-04-24 Thread David Forslund
This discussion arose from the note by Horst asking why telephone1 and telephone2 where attributes in HXP, so it has everything to do with HXP. Most of HXP actually is involved with the data model used for various kinds of data. The transport in HXP is just one of a number of possible ways data

Re: availability/uptake and - automation EMR or parts?

2005-04-23 Thread David Forslund
There is a joint effort between HL7 and the OMG to standardize such an RLS. I urge participation by those involved in these standards efforts. There was a lot of work done on a RLS a number of years ago by the OMG and we need to ensure that this RLS service be interoperable as it develops.

Re: availability/uptake and - automation EMR or parts?

2005-04-23 Thread David Forslund
The OMG never finalized a spec, but did a lot of spade work. This work continues and extends as a joint HL7 and OMG work. People are invited to join this effort to come up with a robust RLS specification. As long as some folks from the CFH linking subcommittee is involved, it should be

Re: Open source medical imaging software stores data in iPods

2005-01-08 Thread David Forslund
Tim Churches wrote: See http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2u=/zd/20050105/tc_zd/142004 Two radiologists recently developed open-source software, called OsiriX, to display and manipulate complex medical images on the popular portable devices called iPods. Check the screenshots on

Re: Open source medical imaging software stores data in iPods

2005-01-08 Thread David Forslund
See belo. Tim Churches wrote: David Forslund wrote: Tim Churches wrote: See http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2u=/zd/20050105/tc_zd/142004 Two radiologists recently developed open-source software, called OsiriX, to display and manipulate complex medical images on the popular

Re: CCOW and OpenCMA

2005-01-04 Thread David Forslund
I've just opened a new project on sourceforge called OpenCMA, for an open source implementation of the Context Management Architecture of HL7 (commonly known as CCOW). It will be based on that specification as well as a couple of other efforts in the area of context-aware systems (such as the

Re: Open source tools for population health epidemiology and public health

2004-12-24 Thread David Forslund
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 23:02, David Forslund wrote: I know a number of folks who would be interested, but the inability to run the software on Win platforms removes them from consideration at this time. Dave Maybe this will be enough of a trigger to get them to try out some linux

Re: Open source tools for population health epidemiology and public health

2004-12-24 Thread David Forslund
From: Tim Churches [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: openhealth-list@minoru-development.com Date: Fri, Dec-24-2004 8:01 AM Subject: Re: Open source tools for population health epidemiology and public health David Forslund wrote: I know a number of folks who would be interested, but the inability

Re: Open source tools for population health epidemiology and public health

2004-12-24 Thread David Forslund
From: Tim Churches [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Forslund [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew McNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: openhealth-list@minoru-development.com Date: Fri, Dec-24-2004 1:40 PM Subject: Re: Open source tools for population health epidemiology and public health David Forslund

Re: Open source tools for population health epidemiology and public health

2004-12-23 Thread David Forslund
I know a number of folks who would be interested, but the inability to run the software on Win platforms removes them from consideration at this time. Dave Tim Churches wrote: I am pleased to announce that developmental versions of some tools for population health epidemiology and public health

Re: Rural Health Grant

2004-12-13 Thread David Forslund
Original Message From: Daniel L. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OpenHealth List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, Dec-13-2004 10:26 AM Subject: Re: Rural Health Grant Question for David Forslund: Is this significantly different in concept from the work you've already done

Re: Free US ICD-9-CM as plain text?

2004-11-30 Thread David Forslund
to be tied to the LDAP representation, which seems to me to be an implementation issue not a design issue. It is available at: http://informatics.mayo.edu/ It is very fine work. Dave Original Message From: Tim Churches [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Forslund [EMAIL

Re: Free US ICD-9-CM as plain text?

2004-11-29 Thread David Forslund
I have a question. There is a lot of info in the ICD-9-CM coding documents that isn't represented by simple text. It would seem that an XML representation of the codes with the exclusions, notes, etc. would be more generally useful. Flatting the data to the number and the name seems to

RE: RTF conversion

2004-11-29 Thread David Forslund
I found this piece of opensource software: http://memberwebs.com/nielsen/software/rtfx/ which is at least 10 times faster than any commercial products I've tried at turning an RTF file into an XML file which can then be parsed with various XML tools. I know python can be used to take apart

Re: VA Software Could Help Establish Affordable EHR Systems World wide

2004-11-27 Thread David Forslund
I wish I understood the significance of downloads from sourceforge.net. Sourceforge says our system has had over 14,000 downloads but I don't think this has any real relationship to the number of users of the software. I suspect that the number from worldvista may be more in proportion to

Re: A patent application covering EHRs

2004-11-23 Thread David Forslund
Certainly the work we have done with OpenEMed qualifies, too. The paper we wrote in 1997 on the Virtual Patient Record in the Communications of the ACM has these concepts, too. CACM, 1997, vol 40., No. 8 pp 110-117 Dave Original Message From: Tim Cook [EMAIL

Re: A patent application covering EHRs

2004-11-23 Thread David Forslund
And if you do a google on Virtual Patient Record you will see as the first hit the pre-published version of our (Kilman and myself) CACM paper outlining how do do all of this, from February, 1996. This is prior to Andrew's patent, but describes the role of a patient in managing their own

Re: A patent application covering EHRs

2004-11-23 Thread David Forslund
From: Andrew Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Forslund [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Openehr-Technical [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Nov-23-2004 11:56 AM Subject: Re: A patent application covering EHRs On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, David Forslund wrote: And if you do a google

Re: A patent application covering EHRs

2004-11-23 Thread David Forslund
Thus the patent you describe would make the RAD OMG specification a violation of your patent, since it provides a mechanism to specifically what you say plus a lot more? Note that the RFP for this was issued in February, 1998: http://www.omg.org/cgi-bin/doc?corbamed/98-02-23. The result is a

Re: A patent application covering EHRs

2004-11-23 Thread David Forslund
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Forslund [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Vincent McCauley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Nov-23-2004 2:55 PM Subject: Re: A patent application covering EHRs David Forslund wrote: Thus the patent you describe would make the RAD OMG

Re: when published spec predates patent, was Re: A patent application covering EHRs

2004-11-23 Thread David Forslund
said: Andrew Ho wrote: On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, David Forslund wrote: Thus the patent you describe would make the RAD OMG specification a violation of your patent, since it provides a mechanism to specifically what you say plus a lot more? Dave, No, if RAD OMG spec is a superset of any

Re: OpenHRE software available

2004-11-09 Thread David Forslund
I haven't used python very much, but I don't see the problem with Java that people are talking about. Switching to different J2EE servers has nothing to do with Java itself, but with different environments that these systems provide (perhaps a lack of sufficient standardization in J2EE?).

Re: OpenHRE software available

2004-11-08 Thread David Forslund
The application doesn't need much in the way of J2EE support. It only needs JSP support. Dave Original Message From: Don Grodecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, Nov-8-2004 1:40 PM Subject: Re: OpenHRE software available

Re: Medical Record Location(s) was: Virtual Privacy Machine - reprise

2004-10-22 Thread David Forslund
Original Message From: Tim Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OpenHealth List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, Oct-22-2004 10:39 AM Subject: Medical Record Location(s) was: Virtual Privacy Machine - reprise Thanks to Tim Churches for doing a great analysis of this issue and

RE: Virtual Privacy Machine

2004-10-22 Thread David Forslund
Original Message From: David Forslund [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Horst Herb' [EMAIL PROTECTED], Date: Fri, Oct-22-2004 11:08 AM Subject: RE: Virtual Privacy Machine Around 5 years ago we demonstrated a full medical record and the software running on a flash

Re: Medical Record Location(s) was: Virtual Privacy Machine - reprise

2004-10-22 Thread David Forslund
Original Message From: Andrew Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: OpenHealth List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, Oct-22-2004 11:18 AM Subject: Re: Medical Record Location(s) was: Virtual Privacy Machine - reprise On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:35:44 -0700, Tim

Re: medical systems framework

2004-06-08 Thread David Forslund
So the CORBA IDL to do a lot of this already exists and has for almost 6 years. This could be translated into other technology if people would decide to doit. It also already exists in UML and is fairly easily mapped to other technology. XML-RPC is not the likely technology based on the actions of

Re: Fwd: Re: medical systems framework

2004-06-08 Thread David Forslund
then perhaps with method #2. Elpidio On Tuesday 08 June 2004 06:01, David Forslund wrote: So the CORBA IDL to do a lot of this already exists and has for almost 6 years. This could be translated into other technology if people would decide to doit. It also already exists in UML

Re: HXP

2004-04-30 Thread David Forslund
At 06:14 AM 4/30/2004, Adrian Midgley wrote: in fact, given that one human entitymay carry different names, sexes, dates of birth [1] from time to time, there is some merit in using one table to hold identity, the rest or majority of the fields being linked from other tables, whose key is the

Re: HXP

2004-04-30 Thread David Forslund
I've attached an XML schema for the PIDS data model that we use. It is completely consistent with the OMG PIDS specification.This entire issue of flexible dynamic traits vs rigidly defined traits was discussed in great detail during the development of this RFP. As a result we agree very

Re: HXP

2004-04-30 Thread David Forslund
, David Forslund wrote: I've attached an XML schema for the PIDS data model that we use. It is completely consistent with the OMG PIDS specification.This entire issue of flexible dynamic traits vs rigidly defined traits was discussed in great detail during the development of this RFP

Re: HXP

2004-04-30 Thread David Forslund
I have some questions about jabber. Can a non-jabber client talk to a jabber server with xml-rpc? Or does one commit to the jabber protocol completely? Why not use one of the other standard messaging services? With jabber, why use xml-rpc at all? Dave At 01:15 AM 5/1/2004, Elpidio Latorilla

Re: hxp, was Re: domain-expert modifiable systems, was RE: Typed untyped languages

2004-04-27 Thread David Forslund
At 07:15 AM 4/27/2004, Adrian Midgley wrote: On Tuesday 27 April 2004 01:28, David Forslund wrote: ... adoption ... HL7's primary problem, in my mind, is its lack of sufficient constraints, One is required to read the implementation manual. I think the thing I would most like to change

Re: hxp, was Re: domain-expert modifiable systems, was RE: Typed untyped languages

2004-04-27 Thread David Forslund
available to anyone. But it is a business and must pay its bills. Both HL7 and OMG are non-profits, but this doesn't mean they aren't businesses. Dave At 12:10 PM 4/28/2004, Horst Herb wrote: On Wednesday 28 April 2004 04:06, David Forslund wrote: I completely agree with you. I keep bringing

Re: Australian Health Connect

2004-04-27 Thread David Forslund
What do folks down under know about this work? I would appreciate comments. http://www.health.gov.au/healthconnect/hc_architecture/sa_consult.html There was a note about this on this list over a year ago, but I'm interested in people's assessment. Thanks, Dave

Re: Lies about MySQL, Re: Database comparison question

2004-04-20 Thread David Forslund
MySQL also supports Transactions just fine. (and is free even for non-GPL code). What does the table have to do with open source, since SQL Server isn't open source. There are a lot of non-open source DB solutions. Why compare to that one? Dave On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 15:08, Andrew Ho wrote:

Re: Lies about MySQL, Re: Database comparison question

2004-04-20 Thread David Forslund
minutes on Windows with no modifications of any kind. Dave On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 16:34, Daniel L. Johnson wrote: On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 15:17, David Forslund wrote: What does the table have to do with open source, since SQL Server isn't open source. There are a lot of non-open source DB

Re: Solving the data type problem, was: ODB vs. RDMBS was: OIO-0.9.1 released

2003-12-29 Thread David Forslund
My suggestion continues to be to not rely on the database to provide the functionality you are seeking. We use an object-relational mapping layer to provide the kind of support you desire. It is more portable and doesn't rely on proprietary solutions. A lot of this work is trying to

Re: Solving the data type problem, was: ODB vs. RDMBS was: OIO-0.9.1 released

2003-12-29 Thread David Forslund
At 04:48 PM 12/29/2003, Karsten Hilbert wrote: doesn't rely on proprietary solutions. no proprietary solution is involved, really, as PostgreSQL is nearly as close to the SQL standard as one gets But SQL doesn't support inheritance, does it? I thought that is what you were trying to get to work

Re: Solving the data type problem, was: ODB vs. RDMBS was: OIO-0.9.1 released

2003-12-29 Thread David Forslund
At 07:27 PM 12/29/2003, Horst Herb wrote: On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:12, David Forslund wrote: Not really, as most of these features are supported by some of the available (open source) mapping tools, so that you don't have to do this yourself and can maintain DBMS portability. Some

Re: OpenEHR vs. OIO semantics infrastructure, was Re: form-to-form translator, was Re: Solving the data type problem, was: ODB vs. RDMBS was: OIO-0.9.1 released

2003-12-28 Thread David Forslund
At 03:36 AM 12/28/2003, Andrew Ho wrote: On Sat, 27 Dec 2003, David Forslund wrote: How do I use OIO forms in a non-OIO application? Dave, You can't. If an application uses OIO forms, then it is an OIO application. :-) In other words, I don't want to have to run Zope to use and manage forms

Re: OpenEHR vs. OIO semantics infrastructure, was Re: form-to-form translator, was Re: Solving the data type problem, was: ODB vs. RDMBS was: OIO-0.9.1 released

2003-12-28 Thread David Forslund
I agree with you wholeheartedly and have talked to Ed Hammond about this many times. Unfortunately, this also is the pattern of other standards bodies including all ANSI standards and ISO standards, as I understand. Dave At 12:08 AM 12/28/2003, Horst Herb wrote: On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 13:12,

Re: Solving the data type problem, was: ODB vs. RDMBS was: OIO-0.9.1 released

2003-12-21 Thread David Forslund
We approach the problem a little differently, I believe. (I'm trying to catch up to the discussion). The data model we use has nothing to do with a database representation. (That is the beauty of the COAS model). We use a Object Relational mapping layer (inspired by Ambler's work) to map to

Re: Master Patient Index systems and Public Health

2003-12-17 Thread David Forslund
At 04:58 PM 12/17/2003, Horst Herb wrote: On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 09:33, David Forslund wrote: What fraud could you possibly commit if you are entitled to a high class free treatment through the public health service in the first place? What are your qualifications to get the healthcare? Do you

Re: Re: Master Patient Index systems and Public Health

2003-12-17 Thread David Forslund
At 06:28 PM 12/17/2003, Tim Churches wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems similar to informal voting in Australia. Apart from the mistake made initially (joined the outfit) conditions could be equated to a penal colony. As Thomas Beale has pointed out, in order to make the

Re: HTML is not HTTP (was Re: Zope, was Re: Java Python was: ...)

2003-11-10 Thread David Forslund
At 03:42 PM 11/10/2003, Andrew Ho wrote: On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, David W. Forslund wrote: ... Both statements above are not true: 1) Zope can send back any kind of file. 2) Web browsers know what to do with many non-HTML files (e.g. plain text, gif, jpg, etc). 1) isn't what I said I

Re: HTML is not HTTP (was Re: Zope, was Re: Java Python was: ...)

2003-11-10 Thread David Forslund
This is not my preoccupation. It is the basis of modeling systems so their behavior can be understood and managed. If we only understand a system by using it, we have a hard time having standard models for systems, among other things. Dave At 01:57 PM 11/10/2003, Andrew Ho wrote: It is very

RE: Java Python-Corba?

2003-11-10 Thread David Forslund
, but JacORB worked just fine. At that time (maybe 6 months ago), fnorb didn't appear to support corbaloc, so I got object references separately (through a plain socket). Bryan -Original Message- From: David Forslund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: November 9, 2003 4:54 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: HTML is not HTTP (was Re: Zope, was Re: Java Python was: ...)

2003-11-09 Thread David Forslund
). Dave David Forslund wrote: What kind of arguments do the methods take. What about security? Whatever can be uploaded via http, https. Security is the same - can use username/password or PKI certificates. Basically then the client interface is the same as html, since that is the only way to send

Re: HTML is not HTTP (was Re: Zope, was Re: Java Python was: ...)

2003-11-09 Thread David Forslund
Perhaps you are referring to tunneling CORBA through HTTP, which certainly can be done, but serves no real good purpose, other than subverting the security of a firewall, which should be prevented by any good firewall security manager. Dave At 12:49 AM 11/9/2003, Tim Churches wrote: Jim Self

Re: Re: Re: Java Python (and Zope)

2003-11-09 Thread David Forslund
back from the DBMS. We have seen substantial improvement of the JIT in the newer releases of Java. Dave At 12:37 PM 11/9/2003, Tim Churches wrote: On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 01:10, David Forslund wrote: Performance is not an issue, since Java runs about the same speed as compiled C. Really? Real

Re: Java Python-Corba?

2003-11-09 Thread David Forslund
At 01:23 PM 11/9/2003, Tim Churches wrote: It has been suggested on the Python list that one way to get Java and Python to talk to each other is to use PyRO (see http://pyro.sf.net) , which is a native Python-specific RPC mechanism, to communicated between a CPython process (running, say, Zope or

Re: HTML is not HTTP (was Re: Zope, was Re: Java Python was: ...)

2003-11-09 Thread David Forslund
At 09:07 PM 11/9/2003, Jim Self wrote: David Forslund wrote: Web browsers do not send data to servers by way of HTML. They generally do it via HTTP or FTP or SMTP. Of course, but the expression of the request on those pages generated by Zope is an HTML form. That is what I'm talking about

Re: Zope, was Re: Java Python was: Re: Re: RODS vs. OpenEMed, was Re: Open source medical survellance

2003-11-09 Thread David Forslund
The magical things are much stronger type checking (both at compile time and runtime) as well as services to locate services both by name and by capability. This is true for both CORBA and Java separately and together. My server will never even see a call to be processed for an error, if the

Re: RODS vs. OpenEMed, was Re: Open source medical survellance

2003-11-06 Thread David Forslund
I agree generally with this statement. However OpenMap, for example, doesn't require this if you use it on the serverside (much like ArcIMS is typically used). We have had almost as much trouble, though, dealing with variations in JavaScript in the browser and you will find many web sites

Re: RODS vs. OpenEMed, was Re: Open source medical survellance

2003-11-06 Thread David Forslund
And the fact that an Oracle installation probably already exists with an experienced DBA. With that resource, it may not be to difficult. But installing and managing Oracle from scratch is not recommend, while the same is not true for MySQL, for example. Dave At 08:21 AM 11/6/2003, Karsten

RE: Academic Medical Center Posistion paper

2003-11-06 Thread David Forslund
At AMIA next week, there are several sessions on Open Source including a fairly general panel (S89) on Wednesday morning The issue you describe is quite appropriate for that panel (in which I am a participant). Please bring the topic up, if it isn't addressed by the panelists. Dave At 09:15 AM

Re: Re: LiveOIO-1.0.6 released

2003-11-02 Thread David Forslund
I find this to be an interesting discussion. About 4 years ago, we delivered our OpenEMed software on a flashcard so that you can simply plug it into a computer and run it with no installation. The flash card works much better than a CD Rom because of the ability to write to it. We didn't do

Re: LiveOpenEMed, Re: LiveOIO-1.0.6 released

2003-11-02 Thread David Forslund
At 10:22 PM 11/2/2003 -0800, Andrew Ho wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, David Forslund wrote: I find this to be an interesting discussion. About 4 years ago, we delivered our OpenEMed software on a flashcard so that you can simply plug it into a computer and run it with no installation. The flash

Re: Care2x description

2003-10-20 Thread David Forslund
I didn't know you were looking for a Dicom viewer in Java. Have you looked at ImageJ from the NIH. http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/ also, see below At 10:03 AM 10/20/2003 -0700, Andrew Ho wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Elpidio Latorilla wrote: ... Javascript for client sided validations and Java for

Re: AAFP Sells Out

2003-10-14 Thread David Forslund
What is the date of this announcement? It seems to be last year some time. The truth is difficult to ferret out because they have multiple contradicting articles on their web site. Dave At 10:43 AM 10/14/2003 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: Once again truth is stranger than fiction. It would

Re: Secure HL7 transport?

2003-09-22 Thread David Forslund
At 02:15 PM 9/22/2003 -0700, Tim Cook wrote: On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 14:56, David Forslund wrote: This functionality is fully available with a lot more capability already in free software and cross language and platform. Why do we keep having to invent this stuff? It is a waste of software

Re: Secure HL7 transport?

2003-09-21 Thread David Forslund
At 07:42 AM 9/22/2003 +1000, Tim Churches wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 07:25, David W. Forslund wrote: Well we do some conversion of the data in the process to the COAS model, but OpenEMed handles secure communication on arbitrary HL7 data. The security has nothing to do with HL7 but handles

Re: Secure HL7 transport?

2003-09-21 Thread David Forslund
At 08:07 AM 9/22/2003 +1000, Tim Churches wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 07:56, David Forslund wrote: At 07:42 AM 9/22/2003 +1000, Tim Churches wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 07:25, David W. Forslund wrote: Well we do some conversion of the data in the process to the COAS model, but OpenEMed

Re: Secure HL7 transport?

2003-09-21 Thread David Forslund
At 11:15 AM 9/22/2003 +1000, Tim Churches wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 10:42, David Forslund wrote: Well sure, but you need to do some digging. All of this is implemented in OpenEMed using the open source ORB OpenORB (on sourceforge.net), which provides full support for it. By simply changing

Re: district distributed collaborative Diabetes

2003-09-13 Thread David Forslund
An area we have been looking at that is similar to Diabetes is Hepatitis C. There is an active project in NM seeking to do a statewide management of Hep C because of its extreme requirements for treatment and management that is beyond the reach of many local physicians. It is the number one

Re: graph from patient data

2003-08-29 Thread David Forslund
At 01:00 AM 8/29/2003 +0200, Karsten Hilbert wrote: I do believe that we shouldn't have physicians building web pages. Why shouldn't everyone, including physicians, be able to build web-pages? Just like everyone should learn how to read and write. Why shouldn't everyone be able to fix their

Re: URL_callable application interface, was Re: graph from patient data

2003-08-29 Thread David Forslund
At 04:25 PM 8/28/2003 -0700, Andrew Ho wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, David Forslund wrote: ... An example may help: Let's say if we call http://calculator.tools.org/add?a=2b=3; and get 5 as the returned value, then this is a callable_from_URL adding machine. We do this all the time

Re: graph from patient data

2003-08-29 Thread David Forslund
At 10:41 AM 8/29/2003 +1000, Horst Herb wrote: On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 08:35, David Forslund wrote: division of labor and efficiency in people knowing their field. You see books on how to be a C++ expert in 21 days, but not how to be a brain surgeon in 21 days. I think it is laughable

Re: graph from patient data

2003-08-28 Thread David Forslund
At 01:16 PM 8/28/2003 -0700, Andrew Ho wrote: On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, David Forslund wrote: What you say is very important. OIO is basically a very good Content Management System will suited to the healthcare needs. Dave, Thanks! I am most interested in your view on OIO's limitations

Re: HHS announcement regarding Snomed

2003-07-03 Thread David Forslund
As we understand from the announcement and from Ed Hammond at the HHII meeting in DC this week, the license is perpetual for the version of SNOMED created over the next 5 years. It also only applies in the US. Other licenses may be being negotiated for other countries. I will plan on using

Re: FreeMED Billing .02 alpha release

2003-06-14 Thread David Forslund
Do you have (or planning to have) an abstraction of the interface you describe in a platform independent representation such as UML? Having a specification in XML-RPC is not very portable. It may be a good way to implement it, but not to specify it. Thanks, Dave At 11:00 PM 6/14/2003 -0500,

Re: FreeMED Billing .02 alpha release

2003-06-14 Thread David Forslund
such an interface using Dia. I will try to release this with the initial alpha release of any XML-RPC code! Do remind me if I forget this! -FT On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 23:04, David Forslund wrote: Do you have (or planning to have) an abstraction of the interface you describe in a platform independent

Re: Java interface to GT.M was: Re: Federated or Consolidated EHR was: relational databases may n ot be the right tool for medical records

2003-06-09 Thread David Forslund
On 2003.06.09 07:32 David Forslund wrote: Yes, but I don't have any way to talk to it. I would like to use it, but I don't see an API that I can get to from Java. In discussions I had at the eGov workshop, it was indicated that I would have to write my own interfaces in M. This is unacceptable

Re: Federated or Consolidated EHR was: relational databases may not be the right tool for medical records

2003-06-07 Thread David Forslund
At 05:44 PM 6/7/2003 -0500, Tim Cook wrote: On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 16:56, Tim Cook wrote: On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 13:43, David Forslund wrote: Records today aren't available when they are needed even within a given hospital. I don't know how to consolidate across international boundaries let

Re: Federated or Consolidated EHR was: relational databases may not be the right tool for medical records

2003-06-07 Thread David Forslund
At 05:56 PM 6/7/2003 -0500, Tim Cook wrote: On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 17:27, Tim Churches wrote: Alas, Dave is correct. ZODB is fine but its scalability is not that ... or at least in the middleware. Dave will argue that that is what the OMG HDTF corbaMED RAD (resource access decision) service

Re: Federated or Consolidated EHR was:

2003-06-07 Thread David Forslund
At 07:50 PM 6/7/2003 -0500, Fred Trotter wrote: Hey All... Since billing has not actually come up in this conversation yet I am glad that I can duck most of the shrapnel that seems to be flying around. But David said something in a recent post that I really cannot let go of. I quote...

Standards and Interoperability (was federation...)

2003-06-07 Thread David Forslund
I think this is an important point. Demonstrating interoperable solutions where one can get more than the sum of the parts is a real opportunity for open source. There is actual interchange of ideas going on here, unlike what I see currently in the vendor world in healthcare. The great

Re: GPL patent pool, Re: patents and freeing ideas

2003-03-24 Thread David Forslund
that this should be discussed in the larger open-source community, since it has nothing to do with healthcare. I would recommend moving the discussion elsewhere. Dave At 07:40 AM 3/24/2003 -0800, Andrew Ho wrote: On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, David Forslund wrote: ... I also don't understand the patent pool and why

Re: SDSS patent, was Re: GPL patent pool, Re: patents and freeing ideas

2003-03-24 Thread David Forslund
At 09:54 AM 3/24/2003 -0800, Andrew Ho wrote: On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, David Forslund wrote: ... Two issues for you to consider: 1) The characterization that separating patient identifiers from other patient data as a type of secret splitting is novel. This is not what the field calls secret

OpenEMed at Newsforge

2003-02-11 Thread David Forslund
http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/01/13/1550249mode=nestedtid=11 Dave

Re: Balkanization a.k.a. Best of Breed

2003-02-09 Thread David Forslund
of the content, thus increasing sales to people who can and do pay for it. I look forward to meeting you, Dave, at the eGovOS meeting next month. Same here, Dave Walt David Forslund wrote: I have some strong views on this. There is a lot of confusion going around HL7 interfaces have

Re: Sherlock Holmes

2003-01-04 Thread David Forslund
At 09:47 AM 1/4/2003 -0500, John Gage wrote: It was Sherlock Holmes, I believe, who said, Eliminate the impossible, and whatever remains, however improbable, is the truth. As I survey the field of open source medical software, I see the impossible with one improbable exception: VistA. I

Re: HIMSS launches task force for national health information network

2002-10-19 Thread David Forslund
I actually think this is possible, but perhaps not coming from HIMSS or NCVHS. The former seems to be dominated by vendors and special consultants, with particular agendas. The latter has had a poor track record at understanding information infrastructure. The goal of the OMG's HealthCare

Re: customizable vs. fixed schema, was Re: FUPI :-), was Re: new subject

2002-05-15 Thread David Forslund
At 10:23 PM 5/15/2002 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew points well taken. But to raise the ongoing issue, how do we ever get to determine a uniform identifier that can be attached to a patient's medical record/chart if we don't come to some determining of a format for that identifier. We

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