hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: RT-38278 [ScrollPane] minViewport{Height, Width} are taking effect only after changing prefViewport{Height, Width}
Changeset: 36a242b77366
Author:Martin Sladecek
Date: 2014-08-19 08:37 +0200
URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/36a242b77366
RT-38278 [ScrollPane] minViewport{Height,Width} are taking effect only after
changing prefViewport{Height,Width}
Reviewed by: jgiles
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modules/controls/src/main/java/com/sun/javafx/scene/control/skin/ScrollPaneSkin.java
hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: RT-38344 [Ensemble] Add TextField with formatter sample to Ensemble
Changeset: b5b649ef6d8d Author:Martin Sladecek Date: 2014-08-19 08:36 +0200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/b5b649ef6d8d RT-38344 [Ensemble] Add TextField with formatter sample to Ensemble Reviewed by: kselle ! apps/samples/Ensemble8/src/generated/java/ensemble/generated/Samples.java ! apps/samples/Ensemble8/src/generated/resources/ensemble/search/index/_0.fdt ! apps/samples/Ensemble8/src/generated/resources/ensemble/search/index/_0.fdx ! apps/samples/Ensemble8/src/generated/resources/ensemble/search/index/_0.fnm ! apps/samples/Ensemble8/src/generated/resources/ensemble/search/index/_0.frq ! apps/samples/Ensemble8/src/generated/resources/ensemble/search/index/_0.nrm ! apps/samples/Ensemble8/src/generated/resources/ensemble/search/index/_0.prx ! apps/samples/Ensemble8/src/generated/resources/ensemble/search/index/_0.tii ! apps/samples/Ensemble8/src/generated/resources/ensemble/search/index/_0.tis ! apps/samples/Ensemble8/src/generated/resources/ensemble/search/index/listAll.txt ! apps/samples/Ensemble8/src/generated/resources/ensemble/search/index/segments_1 + apps/samples/Ensemble8/src/samples/java/ensemble/samples/controls/text/textformatter/TextFormatterApp.java + apps/samples/Ensemble8/src/samples/resources/ensemble/samples/controls/text/textformatter/preview.png
hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: RT-38283: [Controls, Spinner] Add key binding to increment and decrement the Spinner
Changeset: b87aff6ddefa Author:jgiles Date: 2014-08-19 15:31 +1200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/b87aff6ddefa RT-38283: [Controls, Spinner] Add key binding to increment and decrement the Spinner ! modules/controls/src/main/java/com/sun/javafx/scene/control/behavior/SpinnerBehavior.java ! modules/controls/src/main/java/com/sun/javafx/scene/control/skin/SpinnerSkin.java
hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: RT-38322: [Dialogs] Externalise default graphic file references
Changeset: 7c9dd9130dac Author:jgiles Date: 2014-08-19 13:33 +1200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/7c9dd9130dac RT-38322: [Dialogs] Externalise default graphic file references ! modules/controls/src/main/java/javafx/scene/control/Alert.java ! modules/controls/src/main/java/javafx/scene/control/ChoiceDialog.java ! modules/controls/src/main/java/javafx/scene/control/DialogPane.java ! modules/controls/src/main/java/javafx/scene/control/TextInputDialog.java ! modules/controls/src/main/resources/com/sun/javafx/scene/control/skin/modena/modena.css
hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: 2 new changesets
Changeset: c3a8124d5cd6 Author:jgiles Date: 2014-08-19 12:50 +1200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/c3a8124d5cd6 RT-38321: [Dialogs] Fix layout issues ! modules/controls/src/main/java/javafx/scene/control/ChoiceDialog.java ! modules/controls/src/main/java/javafx/scene/control/Dialog.java ! modules/controls/src/main/java/javafx/scene/control/DialogPane.java ! modules/controls/src/main/java/javafx/scene/control/TextInputDialog.java ! modules/controls/src/main/resources/com/sun/javafx/scene/control/skin/modena/modena.css Changeset: 323fe1d9f2b8 Author:jgiles Date: 2014-08-19 12:50 +1200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/323fe1d9f2b8 [TOYS ONLY] Fix bad image file reference in HelloDialogs sample code which was refactored incorrectly yesterday. ! apps/toys/Hello/src/main/java/hello/dialog/dialogs/FontSelectorDialog.java
8u40 review request: RT-38315 - Lighting effect causes rendering bugs
webrev: http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~flar/RT-38315/webrev.0/ Jira: https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-38315 ...jim
hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: [TOYS ONLY] Fix bad image file references in HelloDialogs sample code which was refactored incorrectly yesterday.
Changeset: 348f681e0717 Author:jgiles Date: 2014-08-19 10:46 +1200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/348f681e0717 [TOYS ONLY] Fix bad image file references in HelloDialogs sample code which was refactored incorrectly yesterday. ! apps/toys/Hello/src/main/java/hello/dialog/dialogs/CommandLinksDialog.java ! apps/toys/Hello/src/main/java/hello/dialog/dialogs/ExceptionDialog.java ! apps/toys/Hello/src/main/java/hello/dialog/wizard/Wizard.java
hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: RT-38347: [Dialogs] HelloAlert ESC and (x) do not close dialog that only has 'OK'
Changeset: 916da7f77a61 Author:jgiles Date: 2014-08-19 10:32 +1200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/916da7f77a61 RT-38347: [Dialogs] HelloAlert ESC and (x) do not close dialog that only has 'OK' ! modules/controls/src/main/java/javafx/scene/control/HeavyweightDialog.java
hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: Fix to RT-38351: [Gtk] Remove "Failed in XOpenDisplay" warning message
Changeset: ffedbb480817 Author:Chien Yang Date: 2014-08-18 15:31 -0700 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/ffedbb480817 Fix to RT-38351: [Gtk] Remove "Failed in XOpenDisplay" warning message A trivial post commit fix, tagged kcr as reviewer. ! modules/graphics/src/main/native-prism-es2/x11/X11GLFactory.c
Re: Text rendering on Windows
Can you file a JIRA and send screen-shots to Felipe? -- Kevin John C. Turnbull wrote: Richard, I totally agree on the subjective nature of "font appreciation" but that's not really what I am highlighting here. What I am seeing is a difference between the quality of font rendering between JFX and native apps on the same machine with the same font etc. and the JFX rendering is definitely less sharp/black. Some may prefer that (not me) but the issue is that there *is* a difference. Cheers, -jct On 18 Aug 2014, at 10:36 pm, Richard Bair wrote: I won't be able to get access to a Windows machine for another week or so but when I do I will gladly send you some screenshots. However, are you saying that this is the first time anyone has reported such a finding? There's no existing JIRA for this specific issue? I ask because even though people tell me I am super fussy with fonts and see things others just can't see, I have observed the stated discrepancy on *every* Windows machine I have tried with JFX 8 (about 4 quite different machines) so I would be very surprised if no one else notices a difference. It is really common for two font fussy people to disagree on which font rendering is “better” :-). We’ve also looked at various applications and it seems to be a mixture of different techniques (sometimes even within the same app!). For such things, it might be better to expose some kind of settings that lets the developer chose which font hinting they want to use or other settings. Just something to keep in mind. The other day I was doing some HTML (blah) and comparing the font rendering with another website. My fonts were dark and heavy, their fonts were light and stylish. The font was exactly the same. The weight was exactly the same. The style, variant, etc were all the same. The difference was '-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;’. I don’t know if the two of us, given the same page and same rendering, would agree on which font looked nicer (maybe we would, maybe not, I really don’t know!). Which makes me think we probably need to expose some toggles so folks can tweak the characteristics to their liking. Richard
Re: Text rendering on Windows
Richard, I totally agree on the subjective nature of "font appreciation" but that's not really what I am highlighting here. What I am seeing is a difference between the quality of font rendering between JFX and native apps on the same machine with the same font etc. and the JFX rendering is definitely less sharp/black. Some may prefer that (not me) but the issue is that there *is* a difference. Cheers, -jct On 18 Aug 2014, at 10:36 pm, Richard Bair wrote: >> I won't be able to get access to a Windows machine for another week or so >> but when I do I will gladly send you some screenshots. However, are you >> saying that this is the first time anyone has reported such a finding? >> There's no existing JIRA for this specific issue? I ask because even though >> people tell me I am super fussy with fonts and see things others just can't >> see, I have observed the stated discrepancy on *every* Windows machine I >> have tried with JFX 8 (about 4 quite different machines) so I would be very >> surprised if no one else notices a difference. > > It is really common for two font fussy people to disagree on which font > rendering is “better” :-). We’ve also looked at various applications and it > seems to be a mixture of different techniques (sometimes even within the same > app!). For such things, it might be better to expose some kind of settings > that lets the developer chose which font hinting they want to use or other > settings. Just something to keep in mind. > > The other day I was doing some HTML (blah) and comparing the font rendering > with another website. My fonts were dark and heavy, their fonts were light > and stylish. The font was exactly the same. The weight was exactly the same. > The style, variant, etc were all the same. The difference was > '-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;’. I don’t know if the two of us, given > the same page and same rendering, would agree on which font looked nicer > (maybe we would, maybe not, I really don’t know!). > > Which makes me think we probably need to expose some toggles so folks can > tweak the characteristics to their liking. > > Richard
Re: Text rendering on Windows
That's great to hear Kevin! > On 18 Aug 2014, at 10:39 pm, Kevin Rushforth > wrote: > > >> As for LCD on Canvas, I am very pleased that it is being addressed and even >> though I want it right now, JFX 9 fits fairly well with my timeline. >> Hopefully there will be preview releases to test in the not too distant >> future... > > Btw, as I mentioned in another thread we are looking to pull LCD-on-Canvas > into an 8-update release (possibly 8u40). > > -- Kevin > > > > John C. Turnbull wrote: >> Hi Felipe, >> >> Thanks for your prompt and informative response. >> >> I won't be able to get access to a Windows machine for another week or so >> but when I do I will gladly send you some screenshots. However, are you >> saying that this is the first time anyone has reported such a finding? >> There's no existing JIRA for this specific issue? I ask because even though >> people tell me I am super fussy with fonts and see things others just can't >> see, I have observed the stated discrepancy on *every* Windows machine I >> have tried with JFX 8 (about 4 quite different machines) so I would be very >> surprised if no one else notices a difference. >> >> Thanks for the J1 suggestion but sadly I will not be able to attend this >> year. >> >> As for LCD on Canvas, I am very pleased that it is being addressed and even >> though I want it right now, JFX 9 fits fairly well with my timeline. >> Hopefully there will be preview releases to test in the not too distant >> future... >> >> Cheers, >> >> -jct >> >> >>> On 18 Aug 2014, at 9:00 pm, Felipe Heidrich >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> 1) >>> There are many different ways to configure DirectWrite, but without more >>> details I can not tell what that is for your case. >>> Maybe the first thing to try is to go to DWGlyph#createAnalysis() and >>> changed the rendering mode from DWRITE_RENDERING_MODE_NATURAL to >>> DWRITE_RENDERING_MODE_GDI_CLASSIC or DWRITE_RENDERING_MODE_GDI_NATURAL. >>> That said, there are many other knobs to try and combine. >>> >>> You can also file a jira with images of your javaFX application and a >>> native app using the very same font and size, same foreground, and same >>> background. That should enable me to try it on my machine too. >>> >>> In case you are coming to JavaOne this year, you could bring your laptop >>> and application, I have a BOF on text rendering scheduled. We could hack >>> some code together and maybe find a solution. >>> >>> 2) >>> LCD text rendering on Canvas is assigned to Jim, see >>> https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-23822 >>> The fix version recored on jira is 9, it would be nice if we could get it >>> before that but I don’t know if it is possible, Jim ? >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Felipe >>> >>> >>> >>> On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:28 AM, John C. Turnbull wrote: Hi Felipe, I just finished watching your excellent presentation at SVJUGFX on text rendering with JavaFX and have a couple of multi part questions: 1) I noted that DirectWrite is now used to rasterise fonts on Windows instead of T2K or GDI and I for one am pleased about this. However, no matter what I do I just can't get JavaFX text to be rendered as crisply or as "black" as I see in native Windows apps that also use DirectWrite. The result is that my app undesirably "stands out" from a native app. What could be the cause of this? I saw that DirectWrite provides several options for rendering text and that currently only the default one is being applied so could it have something to do with this? Is work being done to reduce the differential between JavaFX text rendering quality and that of native Windows apps? 2) I appreciated the explanation relating to LCD text in Canvas and the issue with the Canvas initially bring a transparent surface making later blending with an actual background problematic leading to greyscale support only. Given that many of us see this as a very serious impediment to developing complex controls that use Canvas, is there a focus within the JFX team on finding a way of supporting LCD text in Canvas and if so, which JFX version is likely to first include this support? Thanks again for a great talk and for all the hard work you have put into improving text rendering in JavaFX :-) -jct
Re: Text rendering on Windows
As for LCD on Canvas, I am very pleased that it is being addressed and even though I want it right now, JFX 9 fits fairly well with my timeline. Hopefully there will be preview releases to test in the not too distant future... Btw, as I mentioned in another thread we are looking to pull LCD-on-Canvas into an 8-update release (possibly 8u40). -- Kevin John C. Turnbull wrote: Hi Felipe, Thanks for your prompt and informative response. I won't be able to get access to a Windows machine for another week or so but when I do I will gladly send you some screenshots. However, are you saying that this is the first time anyone has reported such a finding? There's no existing JIRA for this specific issue? I ask because even though people tell me I am super fussy with fonts and see things others just can't see, I have observed the stated discrepancy on *every* Windows machine I have tried with JFX 8 (about 4 quite different machines) so I would be very surprised if no one else notices a difference. Thanks for the J1 suggestion but sadly I will not be able to attend this year. As for LCD on Canvas, I am very pleased that it is being addressed and even though I want it right now, JFX 9 fits fairly well with my timeline. Hopefully there will be preview releases to test in the not too distant future... Cheers, -jct On 18 Aug 2014, at 9:00 pm, Felipe Heidrich wrote: Hi John, 1) There are many different ways to configure DirectWrite, but without more details I can not tell what that is for your case. Maybe the first thing to try is to go to DWGlyph#createAnalysis() and changed the rendering mode from DWRITE_RENDERING_MODE_NATURAL to DWRITE_RENDERING_MODE_GDI_CLASSIC or DWRITE_RENDERING_MODE_GDI_NATURAL. That said, there are many other knobs to try and combine. You can also file a jira with images of your javaFX application and a native app using the very same font and size, same foreground, and same background. That should enable me to try it on my machine too. In case you are coming to JavaOne this year, you could bring your laptop and application, I have a BOF on text rendering scheduled. We could hack some code together and maybe find a solution. 2) LCD text rendering on Canvas is assigned to Jim, see https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-23822 The fix version recored on jira is 9, it would be nice if we could get it before that but I don’t know if it is possible, Jim ? Thank you, Felipe On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:28 AM, John C. Turnbull wrote: Hi Felipe, I just finished watching your excellent presentation at SVJUGFX on text rendering with JavaFX and have a couple of multi part questions: 1) I noted that DirectWrite is now used to rasterise fonts on Windows instead of T2K or GDI and I for one am pleased about this. However, no matter what I do I just can't get JavaFX text to be rendered as crisply or as "black" as I see in native Windows apps that also use DirectWrite. The result is that my app undesirably "stands out" from a native app. What could be the cause of this? I saw that DirectWrite provides several options for rendering text and that currently only the default one is being applied so could it have something to do with this? Is work being done to reduce the differential between JavaFX text rendering quality and that of native Windows apps? 2) I appreciated the explanation relating to LCD text in Canvas and the issue with the Canvas initially bring a transparent surface making later blending with an actual background problematic leading to greyscale support only. Given that many of us see this as a very serious impediment to developing complex controls that use Canvas, is there a focus within the JFX team on finding a way of supporting LCD text in Canvas and if so, which JFX version is likely to first include this support? Thanks again for a great talk and for all the hard work you have put into improving text rendering in JavaFX :-) -jct
Re: Text rendering on Windows
> I won't be able to get access to a Windows machine for another week or so but > when I do I will gladly send you some screenshots. However, are you saying > that this is the first time anyone has reported such a finding? There's no > existing JIRA for this specific issue? I ask because even though people tell > me I am super fussy with fonts and see things others just can't see, I have > observed the stated discrepancy on *every* Windows machine I have tried with > JFX 8 (about 4 quite different machines) so I would be very surprised if no > one else notices a difference. It is really common for two font fussy people to disagree on which font rendering is “better” :-). We’ve also looked at various applications and it seems to be a mixture of different techniques (sometimes even within the same app!). For such things, it might be better to expose some kind of settings that lets the developer chose which font hinting they want to use or other settings. Just something to keep in mind. The other day I was doing some HTML (blah) and comparing the font rendering with another website. My fonts were dark and heavy, their fonts were light and stylish. The font was exactly the same. The weight was exactly the same. The style, variant, etc were all the same. The difference was '-webkit-font-smoothing: antialiased;’. I don’t know if the two of us, given the same page and same rendering, would agree on which font looked nicer (maybe we would, maybe not, I really don’t know!). Which makes me think we probably need to expose some toggles so folks can tweak the characteristics to their liking. Richard
hg: openjfx/8u/rt: 55 new changesets
Changeset: de9dbcbc9885 Author:yjoan Date: 2014-08-11 13:28 +0200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u/rt/rev/de9dbcbc9885 [SCENEBUILDER] Metadata: ScrollPane property minViewPortWidth reads before minViewPortHeight in the Inspector ! apps/scenebuilder/SceneBuilderKit/src/com/oracle/javafx/scenebuilder/kit/metadata/Metadata.java Changeset: 44b6e89d00ba Author:kcr Date: 2014-08-11 14:23 -0700 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u/rt/rev/44b6e89d00ba Automated merge with ssh://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt Changeset: 7ec4725320d0 Author:Martin Sladecek Date: 2014-08-12 09:55 +0200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u/rt/rev/7ec4725320d0 RT-25980 Add Window setUserData and user data to other non-Node classes Reviewed by: kcr, snorthov Contributed by: tom.schi...@bestsolution.at ! modules/controls/src/main/java/javafx/scene/control/ToggleGroup.java ! modules/controls/src/test/java/javafx/scene/control/ToggleGroupTest.java ! modules/graphics/src/main/java/javafx/scene/Scene.java ! modules/graphics/src/main/java/javafx/stage/Window.java ! modules/graphics/src/test/java/javafx/scene/SceneTest.java ! modules/graphics/src/test/java/javafx/stage/WindowTest.java Changeset: 42903ea10084 Author:Martin Sladecek Date: 2014-08-12 10:00 +0200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u/rt/rev/42903ea10084 RT-33696 RTL orientation, submenu overlaps its parent menu. Reviewed by: snorthov, kcr ! modules/controls/src/main/java/javafx/scene/control/PopupControl.java Changeset: a7f7ec1bc33f Author:Martin Sladecek Date: 2014-08-12 10:04 +0200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u/rt/rev/a7f7ec1bc33f RT-37798 [Charts] Series: NPE when adding data items after deletion of data Reviewed by: jgiles ! modules/controls/src/main/java/javafx/scene/chart/XYChart.java ! modules/controls/src/test/java/javafx/scene/chart/XYChartDataTest.java Changeset: 14063a5dd1e1 Author:Anthony Petrov Date: 2014-08-12 14:36 +0400 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u/rt/rev/14063a5dd1e1 RT-37149: [SwingNode, DND] : drag-and-drop does not work Summary: Implement DnD for SwingNode Reviewed-by: ant + modules/swing/src/main/java/javafx/embed/swing/CachingTransferable.java ! modules/swing/src/main/java/javafx/embed/swing/DataFlavorUtils.java + modules/swing/src/main/java/javafx/embed/swing/FXDnD.java ! modules/swing/src/main/java/javafx/embed/swing/SwingDnD.java ! modules/swing/src/main/java/javafx/embed/swing/SwingDragSource.java ! modules/swing/src/main/java/javafx/embed/swing/SwingFXUtils.java ! modules/swing/src/main/java/javafx/embed/swing/SwingNode.java Changeset: 2326aecdf8b0 Author:Martin Sladecek Date: 2014-08-12 12:39 +0200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u/rt/rev/2326aecdf8b0 RT-38238 unmodifiableObservableMap.entrySet() provides entries in wrong order ! modules/base/src/main/java/com/sun/javafx/collections/UnmodifiableObservableMap.java ! modules/base/src/test/java/javafx/collections/FXCollectionsTest.java Changeset: e5dccbae218a Author:David Grieve Date: 2014-08-12 08:03 -0400 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u/rt/rev/e5dccbae218a RT-38138: -fx-spacing used wrong in .menubar in modena.css Reviewed by: kcr ! modules/controls/src/main/java/com/sun/javafx/scene/control/skin/MenuBarSkin.java Changeset: 7c4cb2f851ab Author:yjoan Date: 2014-08-12 15:43 +0200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u/rt/rev/7c4cb2f851ab [SCENEBUILDER] Fix for DTL-6746: Text Fill of Label change color the "#" hexadecimal color interpreted as event build method ... ! apps/scenebuilder/SceneBuilderKit/src/com/oracle/javafx/scenebuilder/kit/fxom/FXOMInstance.java Changeset: 340aba2d2506 Author:Eric Le Ponner Date: 2014-08-12 18:03 +0200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u/rt/rev/340aba2d2506 [SCENEBUILDER] Added FXOMObject.lookupFirstReference() method (to be used for DTL-6774). ! apps/scenebuilder/SceneBuilderKit/src/com/oracle/javafx/scenebuilder/kit/fxom/FXOMCollection.java ! apps/scenebuilder/SceneBuilderKit/src/com/oracle/javafx/scenebuilder/kit/fxom/FXOMInstance.java ! apps/scenebuilder/SceneBuilderKit/src/com/oracle/javafx/scenebuilder/kit/fxom/FXOMIntrinsic.java ! apps/scenebuilder/SceneBuilderKit/src/com/oracle/javafx/scenebuilder/kit/fxom/FXOMObject.java Changeset: c0f091376dbf Author:Felipe Heidrich Date: 2014-08-12 13:46 -0700 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u/rt/rev/c0f091376dbf RT-37959: [Accessibility] Review a11y enums Remove PAGES and TABS Use ITEM_COUNT and ITEM_AT_INDEX for ListView, Pagination, and TabPane. ! modules/controls/src/main/java/com/sun/javafx/scene/control/skin/ListViewSkin.java ! modules/controls/src/main/java/com/sun/javafx/scene/control/skin/PaginationSkin.java ! modules/controls/src/main/java/com/sun/javafx/scene/control/skin/TabPaneSkin.java ! modules/controls
8u-dev unlocked following this week's sanity testing
Re: Text rendering on Windows
Hi Felipe, Thanks for your prompt and informative response. I won't be able to get access to a Windows machine for another week or so but when I do I will gladly send you some screenshots. However, are you saying that this is the first time anyone has reported such a finding? There's no existing JIRA for this specific issue? I ask because even though people tell me I am super fussy with fonts and see things others just can't see, I have observed the stated discrepancy on *every* Windows machine I have tried with JFX 8 (about 4 quite different machines) so I would be very surprised if no one else notices a difference. Thanks for the J1 suggestion but sadly I will not be able to attend this year. As for LCD on Canvas, I am very pleased that it is being addressed and even though I want it right now, JFX 9 fits fairly well with my timeline. Hopefully there will be preview releases to test in the not too distant future... Cheers, -jct > On 18 Aug 2014, at 9:00 pm, Felipe Heidrich > wrote: > > Hi John, > > 1) > There are many different ways to configure DirectWrite, but without more > details I can not tell what that is for your case. > Maybe the first thing to try is to go to DWGlyph#createAnalysis() and changed > the rendering mode from DWRITE_RENDERING_MODE_NATURAL to > DWRITE_RENDERING_MODE_GDI_CLASSIC or DWRITE_RENDERING_MODE_GDI_NATURAL. That > said, there are many other knobs to try and combine. > > You can also file a jira with images of your javaFX application and a native > app using the very same font and size, same foreground, and same background. > That should enable me to try it on my machine too. > > In case you are coming to JavaOne this year, you could bring your laptop and > application, I have a BOF on text rendering scheduled. We could hack some > code together and maybe find a solution. > > 2) > LCD text rendering on Canvas is assigned to Jim, see > https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-23822 > The fix version recored on jira is 9, it would be nice if we could get it > before that but I don’t know if it is possible, Jim ? > > Thank you, > Felipe > > > >> On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:28 AM, John C. Turnbull wrote: >> >> Hi Felipe, >> >> I just finished watching your excellent presentation at SVJUGFX on text >> rendering with JavaFX and have a couple of multi part questions: >> >> 1) I noted that DirectWrite is now used to rasterise fonts on Windows >> instead of T2K or GDI and I for one am pleased about this. However, no >> matter what I do I just can't get JavaFX text to be rendered as crisply or >> as "black" as I see in native Windows apps that also use DirectWrite. The >> result is that my app undesirably "stands out" from a native app. >> >> What could be the cause of this? I saw that DirectWrite provides several >> options for rendering text and that currently only the default one is being >> applied so could it have something to do with this? >> >> Is work being done to reduce the differential between JavaFX text rendering >> quality and that of native Windows apps? >> >> 2) I appreciated the explanation relating to LCD text in Canvas and the >> issue with the Canvas initially bring a transparent surface making later >> blending with an actual background problematic leading to greyscale support >> only. >> >> Given that many of us see this as a very serious impediment to developing >> complex controls that use Canvas, is there a focus within the JFX team on >> finding a way of supporting LCD text in Canvas and if so, which JFX version >> is likely to first include this support? >> >> Thanks again for a great talk and for all the hard work you have put into >> improving text rendering in JavaFX :-) >> >> -jct >
Re: Text rendering on Windows
Hi John, 1) There are many different ways to configure DirectWrite, but without more details I can not tell what that is for your case. Maybe the first thing to try is to go to DWGlyph#createAnalysis() and changed the rendering mode from DWRITE_RENDERING_MODE_NATURAL to DWRITE_RENDERING_MODE_GDI_CLASSIC or DWRITE_RENDERING_MODE_GDI_NATURAL. That said, there are many other knobs to try and combine. You can also file a jira with images of your javaFX application and a native app using the very same font and size, same foreground, and same background. That should enable me to try it on my machine too. In case you are coming to JavaOne this year, you could bring your laptop and application, I have a BOF on text rendering scheduled. We could hack some code together and maybe find a solution. 2) LCD text rendering on Canvas is assigned to Jim, see https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-23822 The fix version recored on jira is 9, it would be nice if we could get it before that but I don’t know if it is possible, Jim ? Thank you, Felipe > On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:28 AM, John C. Turnbull wrote: > > Hi Felipe, > > I just finished watching your excellent presentation at SVJUGFX on text > rendering with JavaFX and have a couple of multi part questions: > > 1) I noted that DirectWrite is now used to rasterise fonts on Windows instead > of T2K or GDI and I for one am pleased about this. However, no matter what I > do I just can't get JavaFX text to be rendered as crisply or as "black" as I > see in native Windows apps that also use DirectWrite. The result is that my > app undesirably "stands out" from a native app. > > What could be the cause of this? I saw that DirectWrite provides several > options for rendering text and that currently only the default one is being > applied so could it have something to do with this? > > Is work being done to reduce the differential between JavaFX text rendering > quality and that of native Windows apps? > > 2) I appreciated the explanation relating to LCD text in Canvas and the issue > with the Canvas initially bring a transparent surface making later blending > with an actual background problematic leading to greyscale support only. > > Given that many of us see this as a very serious impediment to developing > complex controls that use Canvas, is there a focus within the JFX team on > finding a way of supporting LCD text in Canvas and if so, which JFX version > is likely to first include this support? > > Thanks again for a great talk and for all the hard work you have put into > improving text rendering in JavaFX :-) > > -jct > >
hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: RT-38345: [CSS] Warning messages from CSS on touch devices
Changeset: d7373a5e9cd9 Author:David Grieve Date: 2014-08-18 12:30 -0400 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/d7373a5e9cd9 RT-38345: [CSS] Warning messages from CSS on touch devices Reviewed by: kevin, lisa ! modules/graphics/src/main/java/com/sun/javafx/css/parser/CSSParser.java
Re: hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: RT-38221 [LineChart] Javafx 8 Line Chart does not plot data in order
Hi Martin, This just missed the 1am Pacific cutoff (it was 3 minutes late), and as such, is not part of the build we are sanity testing this morning. Hopefully we will not have any critical issues and can just ignore this push for this week... -- Kevin martin.slade...@oracle.com wrote: Changeset: 14219b05f178 Author:Martin Sladecek Date: 2014-08-18 10:03 +0200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/14219b05f178 RT-38221 [LineChart] Javafx 8 Line Chart does not plot data in order Reviewed by: snothov, kcr ! modules/controls/src/main/java/javafx/scene/chart/LineChart.java
Re: JavaFX 8 and TextFields
I wonder if this is related to my rendering bug from last week, which also resulted in unexpected horizontal lines (boundary lines actually) when rendering on top of a background with an effect (assuming the textfield is possibly rendering something on a background with an inner shadow effect). http://reportmill.com/examples/Renderbug/Renderbug.jpg https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-38315 Mine may have been more pronounced because of the animation. jeff On Aug 18, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Stephen F Northover wrote: > This seems to be the bug: https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-36987 > > It's quite a mystery. It's likely a shader problem but that's just a guess. > > Steve > > On 2014-08-18, 10:21 AM, Eric Le Ponner wrote: >> Dirk, Anothony, >> >> I’ve never observed this visual artifact on Mac OS 10.9 (.4) >> no matter it’s SB 2.0 (i.e. b20) or latest SB (with latest FX8dev code). >> >> Strange… >> >> Could it be related to the graphics pipeline ? >> What model of Mac are you using Dirk ? >> >> Eric >> >> >> >> Le 18 août 2014 à 15:34, Anthony Petrov a écrit : >> >>> Hi Dirk, >>> >>> This looks like a bug. Could you please verify if the latest 8u20 ea build >>> works for you? You can download it at: >>> >>> http://jdk8.java.net/download.html >>> >>> >>> If it still fails, please file a new bug at >>> >>> https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/secure/CreateIssue!default.jspa >>> >>> -- >>> best regards, >>> Anthony >>> >>> On 8/18/2014 5:28 PM, Dirk Dittert wrote: Hi, I'm wondering about the design of TextFields in JavaFX 8. Why are they having a horizontal line through the input area? I find that this looks rather peculiar... I posted some screenshots here: http://d.dittert.org/E4D7EB53-D198-47AC-9230-53E9A23F6767/ One is from SceneBuilder 2.0-b20 on OS X 10.9. The other one is from one of my applications (running on 1.8.0_11) on OS X. Thanks, Dirk >
Re: JavaFX 8 and TextFields
This seems to be the bug: https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-36987 It's quite a mystery. It's likely a shader problem but that's just a guess. Steve On 2014-08-18, 10:21 AM, Eric Le Ponner wrote: Dirk, Anothony, I’ve never observed this visual artifact on Mac OS 10.9 (.4) no matter it’s SB 2.0 (i.e. b20) or latest SB (with latest FX8dev code). Strange… Could it be related to the graphics pipeline ? What model of Mac are you using Dirk ? Eric Le 18 août 2014 à 15:34, Anthony Petrov a écrit : Hi Dirk, This looks like a bug. Could you please verify if the latest 8u20 ea build works for you? You can download it at: http://jdk8.java.net/download.html If it still fails, please file a new bug at https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/secure/CreateIssue!default.jspa -- best regards, Anthony On 8/18/2014 5:28 PM, Dirk Dittert wrote: Hi, I'm wondering about the design of TextFields in JavaFX 8. Why are they having a horizontal line through the input area? I find that this looks rather peculiar... I posted some screenshots here: http://d.dittert.org/E4D7EB53-D198-47AC-9230-53E9A23F6767/ One is from SceneBuilder 2.0-b20 on OS X 10.9. The other one is from one of my applications (running on 1.8.0_11) on OS X. Thanks, Dirk
Re: JavaFX 8 and TextFields
Dirk, Anothony, I’ve never observed this visual artifact on Mac OS 10.9 (.4) no matter it’s SB 2.0 (i.e. b20) or latest SB (with latest FX8dev code). Strange… Could it be related to the graphics pipeline ? What model of Mac are you using Dirk ? Eric Le 18 août 2014 à 15:34, Anthony Petrov a écrit : > Hi Dirk, > > This looks like a bug. Could you please verify if the latest 8u20 ea build > works for you? You can download it at: > > http://jdk8.java.net/download.html > > > If it still fails, please file a new bug at > > https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/secure/CreateIssue!default.jspa > > -- > best regards, > Anthony > > On 8/18/2014 5:28 PM, Dirk Dittert wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm wondering about the design of TextFields in JavaFX 8. Why are they >> having a horizontal line through the input area? I find that this looks >> rather peculiar... >> >> I posted some screenshots here: >> http://d.dittert.org/E4D7EB53-D198-47AC-9230-53E9A23F6767/ >> >> One is from SceneBuilder 2.0-b20 on OS X 10.9. The other one is from one of >> my applications (running on 1.8.0_11) on OS X. >> >> Thanks, >> Dirk >>
Re: JavaFX 8 and TextFields
Hi Dirk, This looks like a bug. Could you please verify if the latest 8u20 ea build works for you? You can download it at: http://jdk8.java.net/download.html If it still fails, please file a new bug at https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/secure/CreateIssue!default.jspa -- best regards, Anthony On 8/18/2014 5:28 PM, Dirk Dittert wrote: Hi, I'm wondering about the design of TextFields in JavaFX 8. Why are they having a horizontal line through the input area? I find that this looks rather peculiar... I posted some screenshots here: http://d.dittert.org/E4D7EB53-D198-47AC-9230-53E9A23F6767/ One is from SceneBuilder 2.0-b20 on OS X 10.9. The other one is from one of my applications (running on 1.8.0_11) on OS X. Thanks, Dirk
JavaFX 8 and TextFields
Hi, I'm wondering about the design of TextFields in JavaFX 8. Why are they having a horizontal line through the input area? I find that this looks rather peculiar... I posted some screenshots here: http://d.dittert.org/E4D7EB53-D198-47AC-9230-53E9A23F6767/ One is from SceneBuilder 2.0-b20 on OS X 10.9. The other one is from one of my applications (running on 1.8.0_11) on OS X. Thanks, Dirk
hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: [TOYS] Hello : HelloTextFieldWithTextFormatter
Changeset: 0fdd457a9e04 Author:Martin Sladecek Date: 2014-08-18 14:25 +0200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/0fdd457a9e04 [TOYS] Hello : HelloTextFieldWithTextFormatter + apps/toys/Hello/src/main/java/hello/HelloTextFieldWithTextFormatter.java
Text rendering on Windows
Hi Felipe, I just finished watching your excellent presentation at SVJUGFX on text rendering with JavaFX and have a couple of multi part questions: 1) I noted that DirectWrite is now used to rasterise fonts on Windows instead of T2K or GDI and I for one am pleased about this. However, no matter what I do I just can't get JavaFX text to be rendered as crisply or as "black" as I see in native Windows apps that also use DirectWrite. The result is that my app undesirably "stands out" from a native app. What could be the cause of this? I saw that DirectWrite provides several options for rendering text and that currently only the default one is being applied so could it have something to do with this? Is work being done to reduce the differential between JavaFX text rendering quality and that of native Windows apps? 2) I appreciated the explanation relating to LCD text in Canvas and the issue with the Canvas initially bring a transparent surface making later blending with an actual background problematic leading to greyscale support only. Given that many of us see this as a very serious impediment to developing complex controls that use Canvas, is there a focus within the JFX team on finding a way of supporting LCD text in Canvas and if so, which JFX version is likely to first include this support? Thanks again for a great talk and for all the hard work you have put into improving text rendering in JavaFX :-) -jct
hg: openjfx/8u-dev/rt: RT-38221 [LineChart] Javafx 8 Line Chart does not plot data in order
Changeset: 14219b05f178 Author:Martin Sladecek Date: 2014-08-18 10:03 +0200 URL: http://hg.openjdk.java.net/openjfx/8u-dev/rt/rev/14219b05f178 RT-38221 [LineChart] Javafx 8 Line Chart does not plot data in order Reviewed by: snothov, kcr ! modules/controls/src/main/java/javafx/scene/chart/LineChart.java
