Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-20 Thread Dr Scofield
Melanie wrote: And that brings us full circle to my proposal. There is much sense in a set of files that are used as defaults, and then overriding settings in specific configuration files. +1 on that proposal. DrS/dirk -- dr dirk husemann virtual worlds research ibm

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-11 Thread Dahlia Trimble
: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Jeff Ames Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 7:20 PM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading Melanie wrote: read [the config directory] first

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-11 Thread Brianna
. - Original Message - From: Dahlia Trimble To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading Is there any reason why we wouldn't want to update the defaults in the code to sane values? On Fri, Mar 6, 2009

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-10 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Jeff Ames wrote: One nice thing about merge conflicts is that it tells you right away if a variable you've changed has been modified (e.g., the variable name changed), so you can correct it immediately instead of wondering why feature X isn't working any more. But I guess there'd be a lot of

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-10 Thread Melanie
Built-in settings were pretty much abolished because it was found that it's not possible/feasible to keep them sane. I think that using an additional OpenSim.ini file is not too steep a learning curve, and that we should not design to the lowest denominator. A config override hierarchy is,

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-10 Thread krtaylor
Actually, I thought it supported my point very well. ;-) I was not suggesting that the split ini in config be the only config option - I still like to override idea. But by default, users would edit the config/*ini, this does not stop a multi-region grid operator from syncing 20 override ini

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-09 Thread Jeff Ames
Just splitting up the file and putting it in config, with all the comments, would help. And for the SVN update - that is a problem with any modifications to the tree, not just config. That's what backups are for. I guess a simple backup/diff tool for config would be a quick solution... Just

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-09 Thread Tommi Laukkanen
How about splitting to normal ini file and advanced ini file? In the normal ini file you would have those parameters which 95% of the people change and rest can be stuffed to advanced ini file. - Tommi ___ Opensim-dev mailing list

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-09 Thread Sean Hennessee
I am one of those people that run trunk and update fairly often on 9 different OpenSim servers. I suspect I always will be. Having to manually merge two huge ini files, on 9 different servers, is a major pain. It would be even worse if I had to merge 6 or 8 different medium sized ini files on

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-09 Thread Sean Hennessee
+1 Melanie! ... ... whoa, deja vu! :) ~Sean Melanie wrote: And that brings us full circle to my proposal. There is much sense in a set of files that are used as defaults, and then overriding settings in specific configuration files. Melanie Sean Hennessee wrote: I am one of those

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-09 Thread Jeff Ames
One nice thing about merge conflicts is that it tells you right away if a variable you've changed has been modified (e.g., the variable name changed), so you can correct it immediately instead of wondering why feature X isn't working any more. But I guess there'd be a lot of false alarms, if

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-06 Thread Melanie
@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading Melanie wrote: read [the config directory] first then read the inimaster then read the inifile If I understand this correctly, the config/*.ini files would be essentially read-only, and all local changes would be made

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-06 Thread Sacha Magne
-Original Message- From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Jeff Ames Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 7:20 PM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading Melanie wrote: read

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-06 Thread Chris Hart
To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading Hi, Jeff Ames wrote: Melanie wrote: read [the config directory] first then read the inimaster then read the inifile This is because the config/* files would hold the defaults, they must be read first

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-06 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Melanie wrote: Hi, Jeff Ames wrote: Melanie wrote: read [the config directory] first then read the inimaster then read the inifile This is because the config/* files would hold the defaults, they must be read first. [...] Then we could break up and move OpenSim.ini.example

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-06 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
available settings user visible. Adam -Original Message- From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Jeff Ames Sent: Thursday, 5 March 2009 7:20 PM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-05 Thread Mic Bowman
that it can be confusing, especially with the chosen names. So maybe we do need to rethink that. --- On Wed, 4/3/09, Sean Hennessee s...@uci.edu wrote: From: Sean Hennessee s...@uci.edu Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading To: michaelwr...@yahoo.co.uk, opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Date

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-05 Thread Frisby, Adam
7:20 PM To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading Melanie wrote: read [the config directory] first then read the inimaster then read the inifile If I understand this correctly, the config/*.ini files would be essentially read-only, and all local

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-04 Thread Sean Hennessee
Yay!! +1 Updating ini files is often a pain. This is an excellent step in the right direction. In this scenario, my suggestion/preference would be to have the bin/config directory contain all the SVN default values, (any number of files), with NO bin/opensim.ini file present by default. Then

Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading

2009-03-04 Thread Mic Bowman
. But I agree that it can be confusing, especially with the chosen names. So maybe we do need to rethink that. --- On Wed, 4/3/09, Sean Hennessee s...@uci.edu wrote: From: Sean Hennessee s...@uci.edu Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Ini file(s) loading To: michaelwr...@yahoo.co.uk, opensim-dev