Re: [Opensim-dev] How objects cross regions, at the message level. Questions.

One thing I've done is cache geometry and textures. I'll hash geometry parameters for each object and store the geometry in GPU memory based on this hash code, which allows me to only have one copy of geometry in memory for all prims or objects of the same shape. If geometry isn't referenced for

Re: [Opensim-dev] How does PBR material scale/rotation/offset reach the viewer?

It's been nearly a decade since I worked on the materials implementation for OpenSimulator, and it's possible that my memory may be inaccurate or things have changed since I left the project. i seem to remember that materials will default to the same texture transform parameters for the prim or

Re: [Opensim-dev] OSCC21 Audience Feature Suggestions

That's quite a list and it's good to see them al in one place. I noticed several of them could be implemented (nearly?) entirely viewer side; perhaps some users aren't aware of this. I haven't been associated with OpenSimulator development for several years now but I did take notice of the #1

Re: [Opensim-dev] Log4J (Ferd Frederix/Fred Beckhusen)

> Github's Dependabot says very publicly that our Log4Net.dll has an XXE vulnerability. This is eluding my google-fu and I can't find anything about it. Have a link? -D On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 10:00 AM Fred Beckhusen wrote: > Github's Dependabot says very publicly that our Log4Net.dll has an

Re: [Opensim-dev] Opensim-dev Digest, Vol 60, Issue 8

A web server maintaining a database of IP addresses shouldn't be considered reliable as grids may choose to move simulators around to different machines, or may run them in containers on cloud services where IP addresses can be dynamic and unpredictable. Asking the grid services if an IP address

Re: [Opensim-dev] Test before you call OSSL function

Perhaps you mean an on_error() event instead of a state change? An unexpected state change can be difficult to recover from (closing listeners. timers, and whatnot, and not knowing which state was active before the change occurred). On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 5:55 PM dz wrote: > You miss the

Re: [Opensim-dev] Opensim-dev Digest, Vol 53, Issue 5 - gfx

https://github.com/jonnenauha/naali Sent from my lAptop On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 12:28 PM Kurt Pudniks wrote: > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/OGRE > > https://www.ogre3d.org/ > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 18 Dec 2018, at 12:49 am, Adam Frisby wrote: > > > > Lumberyard requires you host

Re: [Opensim-dev] [Region Module] Raspberry Pi2 GPIO Data

Or if the port can be mapped to a device file and the amount of data thruput you want is relatively low, you could use something like a cgi script to read/write the port and then read it in a script via llHttpRequest() On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Melanie wrote: > You can

Re: [Opensim-dev] The MOSES project will longer submit patches.

While I am somewhat disappointed by this decision I think it will probably be a good choice. We've pulled in other features from forks in the past and it's worked out fairly well although it's often is more work on our part. I'll still request that your developers join our IRC channel (

Re: [Opensim-dev] The Future of Open Simulator(?) (UNCLASSIFIED)

I'll take a stab at this. This mailing list is targeted primarily at developers (hence the name). I believe the target customer if you will is... developers and system administrators. There are developers who also provide end-user solutions but these solutions are generally not part of the

Re: [Opensim-dev] Reducing the plugin mechanisms

I like this idea. I have done some physics via the region module interface and had pretty good luck. I've also done client protocol implementations in region modules and I can say that the available interfaces are incomplete for the purposes of the entire LL protocol suite. I use EventManager for

Re: [Opensim-dev] PhysX Development

It might be worth noting that making a call from managed to unmanaged code typically has a lot of overhead. I've found that making fewer calls while passing many data in arrays of native types is often a lot faster than making many calls with fewer data. I suspect you've probably experienced

Re: [Opensim-dev] The Future of Open Simulator(?) (UNCLASSIFIED)

Hi Doug, The project is managed in a very loose manner as that is what has demonstrated the means of the success the project has achieved to date. The core team controls the core team's repository. Most (all?) developers have features they would like to see and they either develop them and

Re: [Opensim-dev] The Future of Open Simulator(?) (UNCLASSIFIED)

Thank you Doug for sharing your insights. I do tend to agree to some extent that we are probably nearing crossroads and I'll try to explain why. I've been involved in this project for around 8 years and I had been using and contributing to libOpenmetaverse for some time before that. I've been an

Re: [Opensim-dev] .NET 3.5 components still seem to be needed for Windows Compile

A while back I changed prebuild.exe to use .NET 3.5. Not sure if this is related to your problem but I did it because newer versions of Mono (3.99+) only had support for .NET framework 3.5 and above and the existing prebuild would not work with them. I believe later versions of Microsoft .NET have

Re: [Opensim-dev] New Network Statistics

Thanks to you folks for all the work you are doing. I'm sure it will turn into a better OpenSim experience for everyone. I have a question about the viewer stats as they exist now. I noticed in the viewer (Singularity) that Time Dilation as displayed in the viewer stats display seems to have a

Re: [Opensim-dev] Can text chat be restricted to a parcel?

My understanding is that the restrictions and chat/content propagation limitations would need to be implemented server side, otherwise nothing would enforce them in older viewers. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Kevin Cozens ke...@ve3syb.ca wrote: On 15-06-24 05:41 PM, Cinder Roxley wrote:

Re: [Opensim-dev] GForge gone ?

I don't know why anyone's name is on any project at this point and/or if it is permanent or temporary. However, Overte is the entity that manages the *licensing*; it does not develop the software nor does it have any influence over development. On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:46 AM, Fly Man

Re: [Opensim-dev] Can text chat be restricted to a parcel?

Just guessing, but I think that's a relatively newer feature in SL and so probably uses a capability, and that the existence of that capability would enable it. On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Kevin Cozens ke...@ve3syb.ca wrote: Greetings, all. In the Options tab of About Land is a setting

Re: [Opensim-dev] GForge gone ?

Melanie did you migrate the accounts as well? Also, the name of the IdealistViewer project is misspelled. On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Melanie mela...@t-data.com wrote: You should not access /gf/ Forge is no longer hosted on the GForge software as that software has gone pay-only and the

Re: [Opensim-dev] ICSharpCpde.SharpZipLib.dll

May want to check to see if that library is still used anywhere. Only places I know that use zip/zlib/whatever are mesh decompression, materials, and iar/oar save/load, but there may be others. I remember I changed mesh decompression to use System.IO.Compression probably a year or more ago. so it

Re: [Opensim-dev] Phantom Meshes bugfix

When a sim starts up, it tries to fetch all the mesh assets so it can construct colliders for any that need them. Usually many of these assets are in the region asset cache and the sim can pull them from there rather quickly. If they don't exist in the cache for whatever reason (new region, cache

Re: [Opensim-dev] Harvesting code from forks of Opensim

2015-05-27 1:58 GMT+02:00 Dahlia Trimble dahliatrim...@gmail.com: Just to clarify on the slight chance it was missed, I wasn't suggesting anyone fork off in any sense of the term. Many forks, both public and private, already exist and I suspect more will come about. My hope

Re: [Opensim-dev] Harvesting code from forks of Opensim

it a project's direction would never change to take into consideration the bitter lessons of experience. Morgaine. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:35 PM, Dahlia Trimble dahliatrim...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently there is still a fair bit of passion about this platform and I prefer to see

Re: [Opensim-dev] Harvesting code from forks of Opensim

Apparently there is still a fair bit of passion about this platform and I prefer to see this in a manner where people can use the code in a way they see fit and to (hopefully) contribute back something or pay it forward in other ways as appropriate. I'm not opposed to forks but I'd hope civil

Re: [Opensim-dev] Simulator Statistics Testing, Planning for Patches, Next Steps

Thank you Doug, those indeed do look like desirable enhancements. I'm sure many of the developers will do what we can to help you and the MOSES team bring them into core. On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 4:28 AM, Maxwell, Douglas CIV USARMY ARL (US) douglas.maxwell3@mail.mil wrote: Good Morning

Re: [Opensim-dev] MOSES patch submitted (UNCLASSIFIED)

of breaking backwards compatibility with the benefits of funded research into making OS better for all of us. Frank Sent from my iPad Air 2 On Apr 25, 2015, at 7:38 PM, Dahlia Trimble dahliatrim...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies for upsetting you, Frank. Perhaps it was the use of the phrase

Re: [Opensim-dev] MOSES patch submitted (UNCLASSIFIED)

that can advance OS beyond being a toy that a few people play with. On Apr 25, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Dahlia Trimble dahliatrim...@gmail.com wrote: It is indeed unfortunate that questionable results may have been propagated. Please bear in mind that few, if any, developers of OpenSimulator have

Re: [Opensim-dev] Open Simulator Metrics Reporting Changes (Phase 1) (UNCLASSIFIED)

Hi Douglas, At first glance, most of those look like useful changes that we should consider accepting. I do have some concerns about the changes to time dilation though. It's my (possibly incorrect) understanding that the time dilation value is used to adjust the velocity of interpolated movement

Re: [Opensim-dev] Open Simulator Metrics Reporting Changes (Phase 1) (UNCLASSIFIED)

PM, Dahlia Trimble dahliatrim...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Douglas, At first glance, most of those look like useful changes that we should consider accepting. I do have some concerns about the changes to time dilation though. It's my (possibly incorrect) understanding that the time dilation value

Re: [Opensim-dev] UDP async performance

I'm not sure where the loss occurs but I've seen similar behavior in other network layer implementations based on UDP. You can only send so much before the receiving end sees packet loss and this makes sense as there is no (or very little) buffering at the receiving end to store unprocessed

Re: [Opensim-dev] UDP async performance

Some information which may be useful for those implementing protocols over UDP: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5405 On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Dahlia Trimble dahliatrim...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure where the loss occurs but I've seen similar behavior in other network layer

Re: [Opensim-dev] Sim and Phys Frames per Second (FPS) Issues

If my memory is correct, SL sims run at a default of 45 frames/second. OpenSimulator runs at 11. I'm not certain exactly why 11 was chosen but I do know that increasing it increases the amount of work the simulator must do. E.g., if you go from 11 to 45 you quadruple the work the simulator must do

Re: [Opensim-dev] Sim and Phys Frames per Second (FPS) Issues

is. Mike On 3/2/15 3:54 PM, Dahlia Trimble wrote: I believe 11 sim FPS is the target value. It would probably never go above this, but a number consistently lower than 11 fps would indicate performance problems. If the lie is simply a linear scaling, then it would have no impact in the ability

Re: [Opensim-dev] Mono 4.0 coming changes

As of commit 186d4a6d5b12e092eb033cf227338666c74b3a65 git master should prebuild and build with mono 3.99.x. Due to other development activity it probably wont run until commit 462f521eba0af14d97d39bc1bdfa676111451a3d or later. -dahlia On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Michael Emory Cerquoni

Re: [Opensim-dev] Mono 4.0 coming changes

some people might disagree. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mg5_gxNXTofeature=player_detailpage#t=210 ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@opensimulator.org http://opensimulator.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] Mono 4.0 coming changes

compatability seriously. That's what the profiles are an attempt at. Mike On 12/30/2014 05:29 AM, Dahlia Trimble wrote: some people might disagree. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mg5_gxNXTofeature=player_detailpage#t=210 ___ Opensim-dev mailing

Re: [Opensim-dev] Mono 4.0 coming changes

. Windows users are already covered as well. Just my two cents ... -BlueWall On Tue, 2014-12-30 at 05:18 -0800, Dahlia Trimble wrote: There already is a profile chosen by the project. If the latest mono dev master can't compile with it, then those with the expertise to run the latest dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] Mono 4.0 coming changes

, such that people wanting to use the older Mono versions should have to go out of their way to do so. Everyone would win this way, yes? -ste On 12/30/14 9:24 AM, Dahlia Trimble wrote: And which distros currently ship Mono 4.x? And if there currently were any, would specifying an alternate compilation

Re: [Opensim-dev] Mono 4.0 coming changes

Perhaps this is a bug in Mono 4? Personally I think chasing the latest bleeding edge mono is a poor choice, especially if it cannot compile code targeted at .NET 4.0. We should target the most popular versions currently distributed with the most popular linux distributions that are currently in

Re: [Opensim-dev] dispatcher interface

applications but in my case the value of a dynamic protocol outweighed any gains I would have got from protocol buffers (which I did evaluate). On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Mic Bowman cmick...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Dahlia Trimble dahliatrim...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Opensim-dev] dispatcher interface

the thrust i read in the undercurrent of the prior emails to make the interface LLSD like everything else. That I am opposed to. Melanie On 24/12/2014 04:12, Dahlia Trimble wrote: OSD has serializations for XML, JSON, Notation, and binary as per the LLSD documentation. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014

Re: [Opensim-dev] dispatcher interface

I have a similar set of modules I wrote which allow for scene replication, alternative viewers, remote scene manipulation, and pathfinding. I had also intended to use them for out-of-process scripting but I've not done any work there yet. I haven't considered committing them ot core yet as the

Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-users] Mono stability on OpenSuSE 13.2

I tried replicating this on Ubuntu 14.10 running on a 2 core Digital Ocean instance with the latest kernel installed that was available via apt-get dist-upgrade (3.16.0-23-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP) and the mono that came with the mono-complete package (Debian 3.2.8+dfsg-4ubuntu2). I was unable to

Re: [Opensim-dev] Modifying the networking stack (UNCLASSIFIED)

One issue with libomv bots (and I'm not sure if this applies to pCampbot or not) is that running multiple bots from the same installation of libomv results in them all sharing the same asset cache so asset fetches by such clients will be much lower than normal viewers, perhaps even by an order of

Re: [Opensim-dev] Modifying the networking stack

I had run multiple IClientAPI stacks in several installations across OpenSim versions between ~0.6.7 - 0.7.1 so if nothing has changed since then which would prevent doing so I would believe running multiple IClientAPI stacks simultaneously would still be possible. As mentioned in an earlier

Re: [Opensim-dev] Modifying the networking stack (UNCLASSIFIED)

but I could be wrong (Diva may know what it really is now). That was only a couple of observations so may change under different conditions or different viewers. On 18/11/14 22:35, Dahlia Trimble wrote: One issue with libomv bots (and I'm not sure if this applies to pCampbot

Re: [Opensim-dev] OAR Converter for UNITY3D

Why c++? I'd think that 90% of what you needed was already written in c# If you're using PrimMesher, I always ask that people who extract it and/or port it to other languages include a notice in the source that I was the original author. On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Fumikazu Iseki

Re: [Opensim-dev] Open Simulator Server on Windows vs Linux

revealed to me that opensim on linux uses more ram And I am more comfortable with the windows platform. ~Butch On 10/11/2014 4:06 PM, Dahlia Trimble wrote: I have noticed decreased performance when running OpenSimulator in a VirtualBox VM vs. running it on the host. Usually it's when

Re: [Opensim-dev] Open Simulator Server on Windows vs Linux

I have noticed decreased performance when running OpenSimulator in a VirtualBox VM vs. running it on the host. Usually it's when there is a lot of I/O operations, such as high database activity or networking load. I've also seen issues when a lot of timers are used in scripts. This makes sense as

Re: [Opensim-dev] Issues in Running OpenSim on Mac from Source Build

Sometimes mono wants a specific version of libgdiplus. You may need to compile mono from source if you can't get binary versions of mono to work with your system libraries. There are also some mismatches with some versions of mono and some versions of libgdiplus where it fails when loading or

Re: [Opensim-dev] SimulatorExtraFeatures Service

I like the idea of being able to override the URI at the region level. That way a region or group of regions which offers a integrated experience could use the destination guide as a means for users to navigate the experience. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:46 PM, James Hughes

Re: [Opensim-dev] Negative z values

Make zero sea level? Wouldn't that change the definition of zero for everything else? Not sure that's a good idea... I'd think just enabling negative zero would be a better choice. On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Mister Blue misterb...@misterblue.comwrote: When I built BulletSim, I build for

Re: [Opensim-dev] Question about the udp receiver algorithm

for a client to finish movement into the sim. Considering that I have 65 threads running on my standalone instance, with 4 cores that leaves about 15 threads competing. You have to do the work at some point. Matt On Friday, April 25, 2014, Dahlia Trimble dahliatrim...@gmail.com wrote: Depends