Hi, everyone,
I would like to start a project to enable running a
driver in usr mode
as an application.
Are you sure? What about performance, i.e. user-level vs. kernel-level?
By this way we can leverage source code from other
OSes by converting them
into Solaris user application.
I
Lloyd Staley Jr wrote:
Hi,
While not as precise as Dennis' answer a quick and dirty one:
zdump -v $TZ | grep 2007
On my B56 system it shows:
alpha% zdump -v $TZ | grep 2007
US/Pacific Mon Mar 5 03:07:34 2007 UTC = Sun Mar 4 19:07:34 2007 PST
isdst=0
US/Pacific Sun Mar 11 09:59:59
Yeah, the use of 'JDS' is rather unfortunate, and
something that we're moving
slowly away from. Unfortunate also, that it's in just
about everything we've
touched over the last couple of years, so it's going
to be a slow progressive
move [eg. not that easy to entirely move
os/project/jds
For some more cold water (not that it should stop anyone that
believes in the idea enough to do the work!), remember UDI?
Doesn't seem to have amounted to much - I haven't heard a thing
about it in 3 or 4 years, nor do I see evidence that it resulted
in a bunch of compliant drivers being produced.
s/www.project.udi.org/www.projectudi.org/
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Hello all,
At first:
There is no need any marketing under Solaris. There is no need marketing under
JDS, it must be GNOME.
If you choose diferent theme than Sun own then it there is still marketing
Start Menu of GNOME (JDS).
There is need to make new project CDE and where people can in
Hi all,
can someone please tell me if it is available a version of Sun_SSH for Solaris
8, or if only Solaris 9 and Solaris 10 include a sun version of ssh?
There are some doc where I can find FORMALLY this information?
Moreover, which versions of Sun_SSH (for every OS) are now available?
Thanks,
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Francesca wrote:
Hi all,
can someone please tell me if it is available a version of Sun_SSH for Solaris
8, or if only Solaris 9 and Solaris 10 include a sun version of ssh?
There are some doc where I can find FORMALLY this information?
Here:
ok i've moved the request -
netstat doesn't seem to give me a byte count - i am trying to figure out how
busy my card is
thanks
gregor
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Francesca wrote:
Hi all,
can someone please tell me if it is available a version of Sun_SSH for Solaris
8, or if only Solaris 9 and Solaris 10 include a sun version of ssh?
There are some doc where I can find FORMALLY this information?
Moreover, which versions of Sun_SSH (for every OS) are now
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Girts Zeltins wrote:
I will soon sent email to OpenGroup to talk about CDE open sourcing
in this year and I want to think what will Sun do if CDE will be
fully open sourced. I think then CDE will revive and there will be
possible faster to improove it by community.
Francesca,
I think that the official port of OpenSSH to Solaris started from 9 release.
Before this release,you can build and/or install with help of these articles:
http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/submitted/installing_openssh.html
http://sunfreeware.com/openssh8.html
Giacomo
Nominations for the forthcoming election to the OpenSolaris Governing
Board close at the end of today, Monday March 5th, Pacific Time. You
can see the status of the election at http://www.opensolaris.org/os/
community/cab/OGB_Election_Status/ where you will note that a number
of candidates
None of these candidates appear to have accepted their nomination. In
addition, neither have:
Alan Coopersmith
Casper Dik
Stephen Hahn
Roland Mainz
Joerg Schilling
I hereby accept the nomination.
Casper
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There are many solaris drivers available under BSD license. Like the
Broadcom 4401 bfe NIC driver (http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/eng/).
I can not understand why opensolaris doesn't include them by default.
Kevin
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kab wrote:
There are many solaris drivers available under BSD license. Like the
Broadcom 4401 bfe NIC driver
(http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/eng/).
I can not understand why opensolaris doesn't include them by default.
It takes developers with access to the said hardware to PORT the
kab wrote:
There are many solaris drivers available under BSD license. Like the
Broadcom 4401 bfe NIC driver
(http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/eng/).
I can not understand why opensolaris doesn't include them by default.
Err scratch my last message.
What I should have said it it
Girts Zeltins writes:
There is no need any marketing under Solaris. There is no need marketing
under JDS, it must be GNOME.
I fail to see how Open Solaris can direct Sun's marketing for Solaris
or anything other Sun product.
You can probably help change the name for the Open Solaris group,
After I get any info from OpenGroup I will inform.
I think soon I will write e-mail.
And thanks all for comments for critics, ideas, and suggestions.
Kind Regards,
Girts
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Thanks, Freeman. You have seconds. I'll contact you offline
to get you set up.
Eric
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, everyone,
I would like to start a project to enable running a driver in usr mode as an
application.
By this way we can leverage source code from other OSes
[i]And thanks all for comments for critics, ideas, and suggestions.[/i]
Thanks you,Girts,thanks you for all.These open discussions,I think,are the
foundations of every living community.
If your demand had to fail,you could work with community for another better
solution. (Don't forget,we have
Hi all,
I am not sure which list this questions best belongs to, so I try here first.
Has anyone tried to build with library configuration returned by
`/usr/sfw/bin/net-snmp-config -libs`?
On my snv57, it gives -R../lib -L/usr/sfw/lib -lnetsnmp -lgen -lpkcs11 -lkstat
-lelf -lm -ldl -lnsl
...
I would like to nominate the following excellent minds for election into the
OpenSolaris Governing Board OGB
(alphabetic order)
Alan Coopersmith
Jim Grisanzio
Joerg Schilling
Juergen Keil
Rich Teer
Roland Mainz
I actually also wanted to vote for Al Hopper, but he has decided not to seek
Simon Phipps wrote:
None of these candidates appear to have accepted their nomination. In
addition, neither have:
Alan Coopersmith
I accept.
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-Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering
Some helpful reader wrote:
Hi Martin,
Those folks have already been nominated. See the status page at:
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/cab/OGB_Election_Status/
Hi!
Arghh, ouch.
Mmmh.
You mean I didn't want to nominate them, but rather wanted to _elect_ them??
How and where??
Sorry,
I had been aware of
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/cab/OGB_Election_Status/.
What I (temporarily) did confuse is to nominate versus to elect.
Sorry for my error and the resulting confusion.
Thanks for correcting me.
Could you please accept my proposed list of names in terms of to elect
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:29:39AM -0600, Eric Boutilier wrote:
I am not sure which list this questions best belongs to, so I try here
first. Has anyone tried to build with library configuration returned by
`/usr/sfw/bin/net-snmp-config -libs`?
No. On Solaris, this is generally neither
Francesca,
I think that the official port of OpenSSH to Solaris started from 9 release.
Before this release,you can build and/or install with help of these
articles:
http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/submitted/installing_openssh.html
http://sunfreeware.com/openssh8.html
Or save
Martin Bochnig writes:
I had been aware of
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/cab/OGB_Election_Status/.
[...]
Could you please accept my proposed list of names in terms of to elect now?
Please let me know what else I will have to do.
According to that web page, it looks like wait until
Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
For some more cold water (not that it should stop anyone that
believes in the idea enough to do the work!), remember UDI?
Doesn't seem to have amounted to much - I haven't heard a thing
about it in 3 or 4 years, nor do I see evidence that it resulted
in a bunch of
According to
d) The election is being held per the OpenSolaris Constitution at:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/cab/governance/
Attention Voters: In order to vote in the OGB elections you must be a
current Core Contributor. So please check your status at
[i]If you still can not .. then try pkg-get -i openssh
see http://www.blastwave.org/packages.php/openssh
but all you need to do is have a patched server and pkg-get -i openssh
[/i]
Yes,I see..a faster,simpler and at the end,a better solution.Thank
you,Dennis.
Giacomo
Martin Bochnig wrote:
While I am listed as (non-core-)contributor (to the PowerPC community), my main
activities ([EMAIL PROTECTED], www.martux.org and
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/qemu/leaders/) don't seem to count.
So I am by no means a core contributor - okay.
The system for choosing
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:02:32AM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
The system for choosing core contributors is notably flawed in that
it only recognizes people working with Communities, not Projects or
distros. (For instance, Roland wasn't initially listed because
This is not a flaw in the
Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
reality. Similarly, is your qemu project affiliated with any
community? If so, ask the leaders of that community why you weren't
included.)
Exactly - that's the right place to start, not with the OGB and not
with the process itself. If the Community leaders are
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:25:28AM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
reality. Similarly, is your qemu project affiliated with any
community? If so, ask the leaders of that community why you weren't
included.)
Exactly - that's the right place to start, not with the
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
For Xorg on sparc, I didn't list you because you have not yet
contributed anything to the X Community - but I was also very
unsure who to list when I generated the list of Core Contributors.
I'm sure once we get going on integrating your work into the X
Community, you'll
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:25:28AM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
In this case, I think it's still a follow-on of the poor initial setup
of Communities - instead of a Xen community, we should have a Virtualization
community with Xen qemu projects.
Completely agree. Nothing precludes the
Hi
[sorry for top posting]
I'm not a core contributor, maybe I don't deserve to be. But I think I
should be, I haven't submitted any actual code, probably never will, but I
do my part in evangalism and helping newbies and advanced users with their
problems accross all communities both with my
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007, Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 10:25:28AM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
In this case, I think it's still a follow-on of the poor initial setup
of Communities - instead of a Xen community, we should have a Virtualization
community with Xen qemu
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Thanks. That is correct - I was looking for Sun specific implementation (as
I am new to Solaris) synchronizing with a reference clock and a common queue
of events that can be accessed by all peer servers in the network. For
instance, does it use any specific algorithm such as Lamport's for clock
I want to contribute with the use of opensolaris and Sun Microsystems
tecnology, but I am cuban and I can't receive a ship-it package.
My internet Connection is to slow and restricted for download.
I apreciate if you could do and execption with me.
My Personal Profile:
Name: Jose Jorge Lorenzo
I also think this is a good sign that the relationship between
Communities and Projects is not well understood by all participants.
There are times it hasn't been at all clear to me, at least.
Perhaps getting an endorsing community needs to be a prerequisite to
setting up a project?
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Martin Bochnig wrote:
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
For Xorg on sparc, I didn't list you because you have not yet
contributed anything to the X Community - but I was also very
unsure who to list when I generated the list of Core Contributors.
I'm sure once we get going on integrating your work into
I also think this is a good sign that the relationship between
Communities and Projects is not well understood by all participants.
There are times it hasn't been at all clear to me, at least.
Perhaps getting an endorsing community needs to be a prerequisite to
setting up a project?
Perhaps
Hi,
Speaking as the leader of the Systems Administration community, I'd
have to say that the endorsement function is a manual process and
doesn't change any community processes. It's a totally manual process
where you select from a list of projects to endorse. I haven't updated
it in a long time
I agree that communities/projects should be organized better.
Octave
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Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
reality. Similarly, is your qemu project affiliated with any
community? If so, ask the leaders of that community why you
weren't
included.)
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Octave J. Orgeron
Solaris Systems Engineer
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/sysadmin/
http://unixconsole.blogspot.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
For Xorg on sparc, I didn't list you because you have not yet
contributed anything to the X Community
Sounds disappointing.
And I did not provide binaries alone (Xorg for sparc including PGX,
PGX24, PGX32, PGX64 and XVR-100 drivers), but also source: The
Laura Ramsey wrote:
And so...in this really long thread...is there a link to Dan's step by
step process? Sounds like an excellent item...
Well, I've posted a first stab at this up on my blog:
http://everburning.com/news/contributing-to-opensolaris/ any feedback is
appreciated.
Thanks,
Hi,
Octave Orgeron wrote:
Not to jump in mid way.. but I think it's a mistake for Sun not to get
more framebuffers into the Xorg for SPARC.
they will certainly do so, even rather soon.
See
http://www.martux.org/READ-ME.ascii
and
http://www.martux.org/marTux___OSDevCon2007.pdf
Martin
Ivan Wang wrote:
Hi all,
I am not sure which list this questions best belongs to, so I try here first. Has anyone tried to build with library configuration returned by `/usr/sfw/bin/net-snmp-config -libs`?
On my snv57, it gives -R../lib -L/usr/sfw/lib -lnetsnmp -lgen -lpkcs11 -lkstat -lelf -lm
James Dickens wrote:
Hi
[sorry for top posting]
I'm not a core contributor, maybe I don't deserve to be. But I think I
should be, I haven't submitted any actual code, probably never will,
but I do my part in evangalism and helping newbies and advanced users
with their problems accross all
Hi,
Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
reality. Similarly, is your qemu project affiliated with any
community? If so, ask the leaders of that community why you weren't
included.)
Exactly - that's the right place to start, not with the OGB and not
with the process itself. If the Community
Octave Orgeron wrote:
Not to jump in mid way.. but I think it's a mistake for Sun not to get
more framebuffers into the Xorg for SPARC. Unless we can pull out our
old UPA and PCI framebuffers and use a modern Nvidia card with OpenGL
accel. Otherwise, it's pretty much like slamming the door on a
Perhaps our view of the world is too simplistic also;
surely there
are projects which straddle many boundaries and
projects which have
sub projects or communities which have special
interest groups.
Too simplistic?
When I read all of the comments here, I thought to myself:
boy did you guys
On Mar 5, 2007, at 20:55, Glynn Foster wrote:
Hi,
Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
reality. Similarly, is your qemu project affiliated with any
community? If so, ask the leaders of that community why you weren't
included.)
Exactly - that's the right place to start, not with the OGB and not
Simon Phipps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Candidates who wish to accept their nomination should write to cab-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately with a message that includes the
phrase I accept in a suitable context.
I did send an I accept mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
but it seems that is was
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 09:55:37AM +1300, Glynn Foster wrote:
But there's absolutely no consistency with that. There's no
guidelines or best practices of how to apply the membership. If one
community's interpretation of the process is easier for geting 'Core
Contributor' status compared to
On Mar 5, 2007, at 21:54, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Simon Phipps [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Candidates who wish to accept their nomination should write to cab-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately with a message that includes the
phrase I accept in a suitable context.
I did send an I accept mail to
On 06/03/07, Martin Bochnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why should JamesD not be considered a core contributor?
And - if not - at least have a right to vote?
p.s. The whole thing really begins to disappoint me.
Maybe I'm not the only one.
Martin, I agree that the current process for contributor
Simon Phipps wrote:
On Mar 5, 2007, at 20:55, Glynn Foster wrote:
Hi,
Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
reality. Similarly, is your qemu project affiliated with any
community? If so, ask the leaders of that community why you weren't
included.)
Exactly - that's the right place to start, not
Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
Eric Boutilier wrote:
s/Eric Boutilier/Ivan Wang/
...
Has anyone tried to build with library configuration returned by
`/usr/sfw/bin/net-snmp-config -libs`?
...
Obviously I/we need to figure out a way to avoid mis-attributions if I'm
going to be matching and
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 04:57:54PM -0600, Eric Boutilier wrote:
Obviously I/we need to figure out a way to avoid mis-attributions if I'm
going to be matching and redirecting wayward posts to their proper list. I
did it one other time recently and the same thing happened then too.
Sorry, Eric;
On 06/03/07, Keith M Wesolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
have very many contributors. In the long run, this suggests that
per-Community representation may someday be needed a la the United
States Senate. In the short run, it suggests that some communities
are poorly organised and led, and
Perhaps if various open-source OS communities could agree on a least common
denominator license (ideally, read BSD) for UDI drivers that weren't
encumbered by hardware spec NDAs, that might revive the idea. It would
put everyone on level ground, where no one group should feel like everyone
else
On Mar 5, 2007, at 23:17, Shawn Walker wrote:
I cannot possibly agree more with this statement. This only further
supports Stephen Lau's post about why the OGB shouldn't be intimately
involved in the day-to-day processes of the community (please read the
full blog post here:
Gaopeng Chen - Sun China wrote:
Sounds good. Any concrete ideas? Is it for all devices or just part of
them? Seems it's difficult to directly make a set of generic interfaces
available for all devices. How about implementing the sub-interfaces for
each domain, and then gather and think about
Roland Mainz wrote:
As I said... if dtksh cannot be fixed using an upgrade it should be
removed ASAP.
dtksh is actually one of the parts of CDE identified during the
currently ongoing CDE EOF process as forming part of the public/stable
API/ABI of CDE, since we know third party scripts have
UNIX admin wrote:
Hi, everyone,
I would like to start a project to enable running a
driver in usr mode
as an application.
Are you sure? What about performance, i.e. user-level vs. kernel-level?
I have a prototype for audio and no difference for the audio quality.
As the cpu
IMHO, adding new frameworks to the OS in order to work around legal
issues is a fundamentally flawed motivation and can lead to duplication,
added maintenance burden, confusion among developers and other problems.
While there are purely technical advantages of a generic usermode driver
Please do NOT reply to this address. If you have any problems, feel free
to send email to desktop dash discuss at opensolaris dot org
Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 contrib. builds on Solaris10, Solaris8/9 are
now available on www.mozilla.com
It's now much easier to get the latest contributed build on
Multimedia screencasts featuring some rather familiar names: Brendan Gregg,
Tom Erickson, Ginnie Wray, Bill Rushmore...
DTrace for JavaScript Debugging
http://frsun.downloads.edgesuite.net/sun/07C00953/
Chime Visualization Tool for DTrace
http://frsun.downloads.edgesuite.net/sun/07C00941/
Dual
Ok, I admit it. I'm even more stupid than I'd first computed.. I've been
a Solaris user since
Sun made version 7 affordable. I've since retired the SPARCs and am running a
4-core Opteron
system have made it through the SCSI debacle only to discover that not only
can I not make the
Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
For some more cold water (not that it should stop anyone that
believes in the idea enough to do the work!), remember UDI?
Doesn't seem to have amounted to much - I haven't heard a thing
about it in 3 or 4 years, nor do I see evidence that it resulted
in a bunch of
Artem Kachitchkine wrote:
IMHO, adding new frameworks to the OS in order to work around legal
issues is a fundamentally flawed motivation and can lead to
duplication, added maintenance burden, confusion among developers and
other problems. While there are purely technical advantages of a
Eric Boutilier wrote:
Multimedia screencasts featuring some rather familiar names: Brendan Gregg,
Tom Erickson, Ginnie Wray, Bill Rushmore...
DTrace for JavaScript Debugging
http://frsun.downloads.edgesuite.net/sun/07C00953/
Chime Visualization Tool for DTrace
I am very glad to hear such a deep thought. Now return to the original
question: with so many hardware not supported by Solaris, what is the
solution ? Taking into consideration that specifications are not always
available. This solution is not perfect. I will not hesitate if most of the
Peter B. Kessler wrote:
Does anyone have a Shockwave Flash player for Solaris (x86) I
could borrow?
Macromedia?
http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_7_solaris_x86.tar.gz
Ian
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IMO, compromising on quality, scalability, or maintainability, even to
quickly get desktop hardware support equivalent to that of some
other OS, is a mistake. And it shouldn't be necessary; if there were
some way to find out which drivers that Linux has and Solaris doesn't
are the ones people
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