[osol-discuss] Re: Latest opensolaris VMware image

2007-04-09 Thread Atul Vidwansa
Never mind. I got the images at http://developers.sun.com/solaris/downloads/solaris_apps/index.jsp I wonder what are 3 VMs doing there on the webpage? -Atul On 4/10/07, Atul Vidwansa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there a vmware image available for latest on builds? I intend to run it under vmwar

Re: [osol-discuss] was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-09 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
> > 3) Unlike Linux, Solaris is a complete operating > system. This means > > that, yes, you can easily upgrade Linux because it > is just a kernel, > > fairly frequently without changing anything in > userland except > > drivers. Solaris, unlike Linux, is a complete > operating system and > > bri

[osol-discuss] Latest opensolaris VMware image

2007-04-09 Thread Atul Vidwansa
Is there a vmware image available for latest on builds? I intend to run it under vmware player or vmware server. _Atul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shawn Walker wrote: ... 3) Unlike Linux, Solaris is a complete operating system. This means that, yes, you can easily upgrade Linux because it is just a kernel, fairly frequently without changing anything in userland except drivers. Solaris, unlike Linux, is a complete operating system and bring

Re: [osol-discuss] Marc Hamilton, Introduction

2007-04-09 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
> While it is only my first day in the new job, I can > already tell you > there is a tremendous amount of executive attention > at Sun focused on > ensuring the OpenSolaris community is successful. > Among many other > things, one of my priorities is to ensure we bring > our own Solaris 10 >

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Weekly News #56

2007-04-09 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, More activity - thanks to Tim for sending me some content for this week. Glynn == Derek Cicero announced [1] that Solaris Express Community Edition build 61 was now available. 1.http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-announce/2007-April/000958.html Steve Lau announced [2] tha

Re: [osol-discuss] was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-09 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 09/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Most of your confusion seems to stem around not > > > understanding the > > > updates are handled differently for the > Community > > > and Developer > > > releases of Sol

Re: [osol-discuss] was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-09 Thread Shawn Walker
On 09/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Most of your confusion seems to stem around not > understanding the > updates are handled differently for the Community > and Developer > releases of Solaris than the "official" release. Thanks Shawn. I was trying to point th

Re: [osol-discuss] was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-09 Thread Shawn Walker
On 09/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So if you tell me that things between b59 and b61 will get broken then I really need that network enabled dist-upgrade. Fedora is bad enough at 6 months for a dist-upgrade, Solaris Express is like once a month or at least once a

Re: [osol-discuss] was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-09 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Sun, 8 Apr 2007, Chung Hang Christopher Chan > wrote: > > > Yes, I know this. You still have not however > answered > > my question about where do I find a binary package > or > > a source tarball for the si3124 driver. > > It's included in the latest stu

Re: [osol-discuss] Marc Hamilton, Introduction

2007-04-09 Thread Ben Rockwood
Marc Hamilton wrote: Hi, I wanted to introduce myself to the OpenSolaris community. Some of you might know me from my previous roles at Sun, or from my blog, but starting today I'll be leading up Sun's Solaris marketing efforts, including OpenSolaris marketing. The first thing I want to do is

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-09 Thread Shawn Walker
On 09/04/07, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You could even use OpenPKG to build your own entire > software stack or > use the one they provide: > http://www.openpkg.org/ > > The nice thing about OpenPKG is that it works on more > operating > systems than just Solaris. You could, and it

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-09 Thread Shawn Walker
On 09/04/07, James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, James Carlson wrote: > > > Not all things in Solaris are under the CDDL. Only the things that > > Sun has licensed under CDDL are marked that way. Some things have > > different owners who've g

[osol-discuss] How To Install Solaris 10 : revisons !

2007-04-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
- Original Message - Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How To Install Solaris 10 : A Step by Step Guide From:"John Plocher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date:Mon, April 9, 2007 17:17 To: "Dennis Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [osol-discuss] Marc Hamilton, Introduction

2007-04-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Hi, > I wanted to introduce myself to the OpenSolaris community. Some of you > might know me from my previous roles at Sun, or from my blog, but > starting today I'll be leading up Sun's Solaris marketing efforts, > including OpenSolaris marketing. The first thing I want to do is listen > to the

[osol-discuss] Marc Hamilton, Introduction

2007-04-09 Thread Marc Hamilton
Hi, I wanted to introduce myself to the OpenSolaris community. Some of you might know me from my previous roles at Sun, or from my blog, but starting today I'll be leading up Sun's Solaris marketing efforts, including OpenSolaris marketing. The first thing I want to do is listen to the OpenSol

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-09 Thread Casper . Dik
>Was that intended as a joke? I'm sure it was. >Static linking introduces horrors that are far harder to solve than >any of the issues I mentioned with dynamic linking. You can't patch, >for one thing. For one, you could not have pluggable modules. But yes, having no shared libraries means yo

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How To Install Solaris 10 : A Step by Step Guide

2007-04-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
>> >> This is for review. >> goto : http://www.blastwave.org/docs/index.html >> select doc BLS-0061 >> A lot of the pages were written when I was getting >> tired and there will >> be errors. At the very least some dry humour and >> possibly rambling. >> The topic or index page is still being

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-09 Thread James Carlson
UNIX admin writes: > > They shouldn't be "allowed" to explode, but if > > someone has a good way > > to prevent it (and a cure that isn't just worse than > > the disease), > > it'd be good to see some work done on it. > > > > -- > > James Carlson, Solaris Networking > > Isn't it great that today

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-09 Thread James Carlson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, James Carlson wrote: > > > Not all things in Solaris are under the CDDL. Only the things that > > Sun has licensed under CDDL are marked that way. Some things have > > different owners who've given different licenses. > > Seems that having the lic

[osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-09 Thread UNIX admin
> You could even use OpenPKG to build your own entire > software stack or > use the one they provide: > http://www.openpkg.org/ > > The nice thing about OpenPKG is that it works on more > operating > systems than just Solaris. You could, and it sounds nice, but it's a trap. Sooner or later whoeve

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How To Install Solaris 10 : A Step by Step Guide

2007-04-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
>> >> This is for review. >> goto : http://www.blastwave.org/docs/index.html >> select doc BLS-0061 >> A lot of the pages were written when I was getting >> tired and there will >> be errors. At the very least some dry humour and >> possibly rambling. >> The topic or index page is still being

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-09 Thread UNIX admin
> Consider an application that is linked with a > versioned library. > We'll call it "libresolv.so.1" to make a concrete > example. That > application also pulls in (say) "libldap.so.1". This > library, though, > has been relinked with the new "libresolv.so.2". > > The result is that the applica

[osol-discuss] Re: How To Install Solaris 10 : A Step by Step Guide

2007-04-09 Thread UNIX admin
> > This is for review. > goto : http://www.blastwave.org/docs/index.html > select doc BLS-0061 > A lot of the pages were written when I was getting > tired and there will > be errors. At the very least some dry humour and > possibly rambling. > The topic or index page is still being written.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How To Install Solaris 10 : A Step by Step Guide

2007-04-09 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Jerry Sutton wrote: Is adoption of the Xorg server considered a technical advance - generally a good thing? Yes. Will Xsun remain for sparc? Only for a while - the announcement of it's end of life should be in the next Solaris 10 update release notes. SPARC graphics & Sun Ray are working

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How To Install Solaris 10 : A Step by Step Guide

2007-04-09 Thread Jerry Sutton
Is adoption of the Xorg server considered a technical advance - generally a good thing? Will Xsun remain for sparc? Yes I understand I have a far better chance of timely Xorg support for arbitrary commodity hardware. I've read some negative press about the Xorg server as compared to Xsun for

Re: [osol-discuss] was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-09 Thread duboff
On Sat, 7 Apr 2007, Shawn Walker wrote: Yes, I know this. You still have not however answered my question about where do I find a binary package or a source tarball for the si3124 driver. Maybe this is an edge case but I would not rule out a dist-upgrade for a driver especially one that comes

Re: [osol-discuss] was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-09 Thread duboff
On Sun, 8 Apr 2007, Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote: Yes, I know this. You still have not however answered my question about where do I find a binary package or a source tarball for the si3124 driver. It's included in the latest stuff, grab Solaris Express and it's in there, AFAIK. Not

Re: [osol-discuss] was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-09 Thread duboff
On Sat, 7 Apr 2007, Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote: Haha, well that was what I could come up with because that is how I got the si3124 driver on Nexenta. Ok, but all those drivers are delivered in the base OpenSolaris system. So, what's the point? Of course, a dist upgrade would be ove

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: Tesla, Solaris Enhanced Power Management

2007-04-09 Thread duboff
On Sat, 7 Apr 2007, Eric Saxe wrote: I'd like to propose a project to provide an enhanced platform independent power management architecture...to be known as "Project Tesla". That sounds good, +1 or whatever is required if it's not been done already... From a high level, this project w

[osol-discuss] schedule for KDE 3.5.x?

2007-04-09 Thread Dan Rawson
Is there a schedule for when KDE 3.5.x might be available with Solaris 10 mods? I have 3.4.3, but if a newer version is coming "soon" I'll hold off on building it . . . . Thanks! Dan This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discus

Re: [osol-discuss] Workspace tools

2007-04-09 Thread Shawn Walker
On 09/04/07, Manoj Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: > Teamware is Sun's internal code management tool. wx, wx, workspace, > bringover are all internal Sun tools. You don't need them to build > OpenSolaris. wx and ws are no longer internal only. It is part of SUNWonbld and i

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-04-09 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Peter C. Norton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 11:14:14PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > The problem is that the creators of the Linux distributions > > keep their users uninformed. > > > > They don't know that the command line features they see are features > > from ba

Re: [osol-discuss] was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-09 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote: So Open Solaris/Solaris 10 is not quite ready for production then? Solaris 10 and OpenSolaris are very different beasts. Solaris 10 is ready for production and in production at many sites - what you see in OpenSolaris is still in development for the next relea

Re: [osol-discuss] was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-09 Thread Glenn Lagasse
* Chung Hang Christopher Chan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: SNIP > > > > The official release has an update manager that > > provides new driver, > > fixes, patches, etc. The Community and Developer > > releases do not; if > > you want to upgrade with those, you use the upgrade > > functionality >

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How To Install Solaris 10 : A Step by Step Guide

2007-04-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
> On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> As it stands .. I have to rewrite it now. The contents looks like it >> was >> written by me. That may not fly too well with some readers and it gives >> the whole document a "community" feel to it. Not very professional if you >> know what I mea

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Fresh Install Problems

2007-04-09 Thread James Carlson
Alan Coopersmith writes: > Jason King wrote: > > Perhaps it might be worthwhile to add the ability to specify the default > > encryption algorithm or encryption policy as part of the install or > > sysidcfg? > > Except that marketing is convinced every question you ask during install > chases aw

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Fresh Install Problems

2007-04-09 Thread Rich Teer
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Except that marketing is convinced every question you ask during install > chases away thousands of users who are too confused to answer, and is > removing as many questions as possible. Oh, and renaming products every five minutes DOESN'T confuse cus

Re: [osol-discuss] was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-09 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
> Most of your confusion seems to stem around not > understanding the > updates are handled differently for the Community > and Developer > releases of Solaris than the "official" release. Thanks Shawn. I was trying to point that the current methods available do not fly against what is available

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Fresh Install Problems

2007-04-09 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Jason King wrote: Perhaps it might be worthwhile to add the ability to specify the default encryption algorithm or encryption policy as part of the install or sysidcfg? Except that marketing is convinced every question you ask during install chases away thousands of users who are too confused

Re: [osol-discuss] Workspace tools

2007-04-09 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Manoj Joseph wrote: Suraj Verma wrote: I am not sure of the legal nuiances, but the license in SUNWonbld package available at "http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/current/ ", says that you can use it only for building opensolaris. That should be ok. I am planning to make changes to opensolar

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How To Install Solaris 10 : A Step by Step Guide

2007-04-09 Thread Rich Teer
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, Dennis Clarke wrote: > As it stands .. I have to rewrite it now. The contents looks like it was > written by me. That may not fly too well with some readers and it gives > the whole document a "community" feel to it. Not very professional if you > know what I mean. I would

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Fresh Install Problems

2007-04-09 Thread Jason King
On 4/7/07, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 07/04/07, Andrew Pattison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Passwords on Solaris are not limited to 8 characters, but the default password hashing algorithm only looks at the first 8 characters, with the result that passwords which have the same f

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-04-09 Thread Peter C. Norton
On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 11:14:14PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > The problem is that the creators of the Linux distributions > keep their users uninformed. > > They don't know that the command line features they see are features > from bash. > > ... and they don't know that Linux does not come

Re: [osol-discuss] Installing PHP on SunOS 5.8

2007-04-09 Thread Rich Teer
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, Abdul Halim A. Aziz wrote: > I'm new in SunOS. i have an existing SunOS 5.8. Welcome to our community, but please note in future that this mailing list is for OpenSolaris discussion, not previous release (alhtough S10 is tolerated). That said: > i've been searching for a way

Re: [osol-discuss] Workspace tools

2007-04-09 Thread Manoj Joseph
Suraj Verma wrote: I am not sure of the legal nuiances, but the license in SUNWonbld package available at "http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/current/ ", says that you can use it only for building opensolaris. That should be ok. I am planning to make changes to opensolaris and building it.

Re: [osol-discuss] Workspace tools

2007-04-09 Thread Suraj Verma
I am not sure of the legal nuiances, but the license in SUNWonbld package available at "http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/current/ ", says that you can use it only for building opensolaris. Suraj Manoj Joseph wrote: Shawn Walker wrote: Teamware is Sun's internal code management tool. wx,

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Fresh Install Problems

2007-04-09 Thread Bart Smaalders
I have seen a problem where a newer NVidia graphics card would hard-hang with the nv driver (used during install on older builds). This was with an 7900GT; the exact same problem was also seen with Ubuntu. Works fine w/ the Nvidia driver... - Bart -- Bart Smaalders Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How To Install Solaris 10 : A Step by Step Guide

2007-04-09 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Dennis Clarke wrote: Bob Palowoda wrote: I like the comparison of Xsun to Windows 98. Fortunately Xsun & kdmconfig will finally be gone from the x86 installer in S10U4, much as they already are on Nevada/Express. when is U4 due out ? Summertime. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [

Re: [osol-discuss] Workspace tools

2007-04-09 Thread James Carlson
Manoj Joseph writes: > wx and ws are no longer internal only. It is part of SUNWonbld and is > available for download and use. > > I am not trying to just build OpenSolaris and I could use workspace, > bringover. > > So, is it available somewhere? No. We're in the process of transitioning ove

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How To Install Solaris 10 : A Step by Step Guide

2007-04-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Bob Palowoda wrote: >> I like the comparison of Xsun to Windows 98. > > Fortunately Xsun & kdmconfig will finally be gone from the x86 > installer in S10U4, much as they already are on Nevada/Express. when is U4 due out ? I'll have to rewrite this thing when it ships. :-\ As it stands

Re: [osol-discuss] Workspace tools

2007-04-09 Thread Manoj Joseph
Shawn Walker wrote: Teamware is Sun's internal code management tool. wx, wx, workspace, bringover are all internal Sun tools. You don't need them to build OpenSolaris. wx and ws are no longer internal only. It is part of SUNWonbld and is available for download and use. I am not trying to ju

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How To Install Solaris 10 : A Step by Step Guide

2007-04-09 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Bob Palowoda wrote: I like the comparison of Xsun to Windows 98. Fortunately Xsun & kdmconfig will finally be gone from the x86 installer in S10U4, much as they already are on Nevada/Express. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window

[osol-discuss] Re: PROJECT PROPOSAL - Tadpole platform support

2007-04-09 Thread Eric Boutilier
Thanks, Garrett. You have seconds. I'll contact you offline to get you set up. On Thu, 5 Apr 2007, Garrett D'Amore wrote: I would like to propose the creation of a project to incorporate various platform specific support for Tadpole platforms into OpenSolaris. This would include core platform

Re: [osol-discuss] Installing PHP on SunOS 5.8

2007-04-09 Thread Shawn Walker
On 09/04/07, Abdul Halim A. Aziz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi. I'm new in SunOS. i have an existing SunOS 5.8. i've been searching for a way on how to install PHP on the meachine and how can i know which webservice is running Apache / tomcat These lists are for the discussion of OpenSolaris.

Re: [osol-discuss] Workspace tools

2007-04-09 Thread Shawn Walker
On 09/04/07, Manoj Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I just downloaded and installed the SUNWonbld package. It has tools like ws, wx. But I don't see workspace, bringover etc. man ws references these but I am unable to figure out where they are or where to get them from. Are these availa

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: How To Install Solaris 10 : A Step by Step Guide

2007-04-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
>> >> This is for review. >> goto : http://www.blastwave.org/docs/index.html >> select doc BLS-0061 >> A lot of the pages were written when I was getting >> tired and there will >> be errors. At the very least some dry humour and >> possibly rambling. >> The topic or index page is still being

[osol-discuss] Re: How To Install Solaris 10 : A Step by Step Guide

2007-04-09 Thread Bob Palowoda
> > This is for review. > goto : http://www.blastwave.org/docs/index.html > select doc BLS-0061 > A lot of the pages were written when I was getting > tired and there will > be errors. At the very least some dry humour and > possibly rambling. > The topic or index page is still being written.

Re: [osol-discuss] no CDDL on /bin/which

2007-04-09 Thread James Carlson
Dennis Clarke writes: > > Is this intended ? Yes. Note carefully the BSD license notice. > I note that dmesg has the CDDL as well as nearly everything else. > I say "nearly" only because I am not certain. Not all things in Solaris are under the CDDL. Only the things that Sun has licensed unde

[osol-discuss] Workspace tools

2007-04-09 Thread Manoj Joseph
Hi, I just downloaded and installed the SUNWonbld package. It has tools like ws, wx. But I don't see workspace, bringover etc. man ws references these but I am unable to figure out where they are or where to get them from. Are these available somewhere for download? Do I need Teamware? Goo

[osol-discuss] Installing PHP on SunOS 5.8

2007-04-09 Thread Abdul Halim A. Aziz
Hi. I'm new in SunOS. i have an existing SunOS 5.8. i've been searching for a way on how to install PHP on the meachine and how can i know which webservice is running Apache / tomcat thanks This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-di

[osol-discuss] How To Install Solaris 10 : A Step by Step Guide

2007-04-09 Thread Dennis Clarke
This is for review. goto : http://www.blastwave.org/docs/index.html select doc BLS-0061 A lot of the pages were written when I was getting tired and there will be errors. At the very least some dry humour and possibly rambling. The topic or index page is still being written. It needs to