Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread Ian Collins
UNIX admin wrote: > > That's a positive trend which begun only recently. However, it's still > plagued with problems: > > - GCC generates crappy, slow code > Sometimes, sometimes not. > - GCC allows one to write crappy, non-portable code (and doesn't even blink) > If you don't use "-Wall - p

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread Doug Scott
UNIX admin wrote: >> Meh, generally speaking Solaris + GCC, and everything >> works nicely out >> of the box. >> > > That's a positive trend which begun only recently. However, it's still > plagued with problems: > > - GCC generates crappy, slow code > Sometimes yes, Sometimes no. Usually

Re: [osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris

2007-07-27 Thread Michael Huff
Think "hearts and minds". People who get used to using something at home (this is particularly true of teenagers and other students) often want to have it at work as well. This was how windows won the desktop wars; everyone pirated windows 3.1 up one side and down the other, and this was a lar

Re: [osol-discuss] Rant: We do not support solaris

2007-07-27 Thread Mike DeMarco
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 05:10:02AM -0700, Mike > DeMarco wrote: > > >I had ordered a new laptop and when it arrived I > installed OpenSolaris > > b68. I was having many problems with the keyboard > and the NIC on the box. > > The NIC driver had plumbed the interface and > brought it up but I

Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris.org is back up

2007-07-27 Thread Brian Gupta
One more thing. Geographical redundancy is a good thing. -brian On 7/27/07, Brian Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You want enough battery time to start the generators, and fix the > generators and pumps that may possibly fail. (And you definately want to > make sure you have redundant fuel pu

Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris.org is back up

2007-07-27 Thread Brian Gupta
You want enough battery time to start the generators, and fix the generators and pumps that may possibly fail. (And you definately want to make sure you have redundant fuel pumps for each generator.) Also quarterly testing is a must. --brian On 7/27/07, Bill Sommerfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris.org is back up

2007-07-27 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 22:20 -0700, Hugh McIntyre wrote: > http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/07-24-2007/0004631109&EDATE= > > In answer to the questions about backup power, obviously they have UPS > and generators (as the press release says...). There is mo

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread UNIX admin
> Meh, generally speaking Solaris + GCC, and everything > works nicely out > of the box. That's a positive trend which begun only recently. However, it's still plagued with problems: - GCC generates crappy, slow code - GCC allows one to write crappy, non-portable code (and doesn't even blink) -

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread Orvar Korvar
Ok, I tried these instructions and they worked too. The problem is, I have already fontforge installed (by following Doug Scotts instructions): http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=35866&tstart=0 So could be that your instructions worked, only because I already had the infrastruc

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread UNIX admin
> The problem is that a lot of > authors are no longer > interested in portable code besides their Linux home > system. > > This is a problem that was not present in former > days. This is unfortunately true. I remember those days well. People actually *coded* software, and it was a matter of *

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris,

2007-07-27 Thread UNIX admin
> And I don't worry about that, because I think the > world you describe, > where software is bound behind lock and key, is > directly antithetical to > the whole "open source" concept. I don't know where you get the idea that I'd want a world "where software is bound behind lock and key", becau

Re: [osol-discuss] Happy sysadmin day! (Or is it merry?)

2007-07-27 Thread Courtney Toth
Indeed! Happy sysadmin day. Wish the people here would have known! I want a chocolate cake (like the guys on the website got)!!! _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Miguel Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:49 AM To: Brian Gupta Cc: Open Solaris; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [osol-discuss] Happy sysadmin day! (Or is it merry?)

2007-07-27 Thread Miguel
Happy days everybody. Greetings Miguel 2007/7/27, Brian Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > http://www.sysadminday.com/ > > Cheers, > brian > > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > -- La actitud del hacker: Los

[osol-discuss] Happy sysadmin day! (Or is it merry?)

2007-07-27 Thread Brian Gupta
http://www.sysadminday.com/ Cheers, brian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] new to solaris,

2007-07-27 Thread Brandon Hume
On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 12:37 -0700, UNIX admin wrote: > That's correct - they do, and that also goes along with my previous point: > they prefer Windows because they are computer illiterate. This is a dangerous statement. It allows you to pigeonhole anyone who might like Windows for some reason, r

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread James Carlson
Joerg Schilling writes: > "Brian Gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Microkernel design philosophy is resurrecting itself in surprising places. > > Take a look at the work the Linux folk are doing to implement ZFS in > > userspace. > > Please do not confuse microkernel with multi-context kernels

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Tao Chen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Solaris is no monolithic OS. > > > > It starts with a small init/loader that pulls in modules on demand. > > > > The modules however do all run in the same HW context. > > > > This is different in multi-context OS. > > > > Does "HW context" here mean "addr

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread Tao Chen
On 7/27/07, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Brian Gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Please do not confuse microkernel with multi-context kernels. > > > > > > Solaris _is_ a microkernel architecture and not a monolith. > > > Solaris does however run al the code in a single kern

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Brian Gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please do not confuse microkernel with multi-context kernels. > > > > Solaris _is_ a microkernel architecture and not a monolith. > > Solaris does however run al the code in a single kernel context. > > > Could you please explain how you see Solaris's k

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Frank Hofmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In former times, all software did follow Open Source ethics and was made > > cleanly portable to all important platforms. > > Read on ... > > > > > I really hope that the free availability of Solaris and Sun Studio will > > change things back to a state

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread Brian Gupta
On 7/27/07, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Brian Gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > using Jaluna code plus OpenSolaris code (for an approximation of SVR4 > e.g. > > > filesystem and other code) as a starting point; seems to me that > > > Chorus/MiX would have been on a level

Re: [osol-discuss] Has anyone successfully install the driver of the Marvell 88E8038

2007-07-27 Thread Francesco Caimmi
You may find this thread useful. http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=105780 Marvell drivers for Solaris suffer from a bug in the install script, but with the workaround of the last post you should get it work. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread UNIX admin
> If I had invested all that time into Unix I would > have become an expert now. Well, certainly can't argue with that logic. That's exactly why I refused to *waste my time* with all the other OSes out there. I did two "rounds" of Linux sysadmin, and then Linux system engineering, but coming fro

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Brian Gupta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > using Jaluna code plus OpenSolaris code (for an approximation of SVR4 e.g. > > filesystem and other code) as a starting point; seems to me that > > Chorus/MiX would have been on a level of coolness approximating that > > of HURD, Apollo Domain/OS (had i

Re: [osol-discuss] Changing a host name

2007-07-27 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 12:21 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 16:41 -0700, Carlton wrote: > > NOTE: changing it using the GUI does not do the job, /etc/nodename > > must be changed as well. I had all sorts of problems until that was > > figured out. > > Did you file a bug? If the

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread Kaiwai Gardiner
On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 13:06 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Orvar Korvar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In my opionion, Blastwave and the likes, should be high on Sun's > priority list. It seems that to compile a program under Solaris takes > years of experience. Sun and you all guys are doing a

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread UNIX admin
> It looks like all of you just did a compile as it was > a trivial thing! How the &%&&" did you do it? OK, I admit, I'm guilty as charged. I could have documented the whole process better, as in step-by-step, but what I wrote was after the fact, and next day on top of that, so I had to do it fr

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread UNIX admin
> Sometimes I wonder that nobody is trying to re-create > Chorus/MiX > (SVR4 personality multi-server implementation on top > of Chorus microkernel) > using Jaluna code plus OpenSolaris code (for an > approximation of SVR4 e.g. > filesystem and other code) as a starting point; seems > to me that >

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread Brian Gupta
On 7/27/07, Richard L. Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > At one point wasn't there an embedded OS based on > > the > > > Solaris kernel? > > > Chorus? > > > > ChorusOS was his own OS that Sun acquired. They also > > acquired Cobalt systems which ran RedHat Linux ported > > to the MIPS pro

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread Joerg Schilling
Orvar Korvar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my opionion, Blastwave and the likes, should be high on Sun's priority > list. It seems that to compile a program under Solaris takes years of > experience. Sun and you all guys are doing a terrific job with Solaris, and I > and many more really appr

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007, Joerg Schilling wrote: Orvar Korvar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In my opionion, Blastwave and the likes, should be high on Sun's priority list. It seems that to compile a program under Solaris takes years of experience. Sun and you all guys are doing a terrific job with S

Re: [osol-discuss] Changing a host name

2007-07-27 Thread Calum Benson
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 16:41 -0700, Carlton wrote: > NOTE: changing it using the GUI does not do the job, /etc/nodename > must be changed as well. I had all sorts of problems until that was > figured out. Did you file a bug? If the GUI doesn't do it, it needs fixing. Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BEN

Re: [osol-discuss] DTrace Graphical User Interface (GUI)

2007-07-27 Thread Calum Benson
On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 03:35 -0700, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > Hopefully, the functionality of Apple's XRay tool is also being looked at > for ideas... Hopefully the main idea being "wtf didn't *we* do this first?" :) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems I

Re: [osol-discuss] Windows switcher: Wine for Solaris ( DC++ )?

2007-07-27 Thread Orvar Korvar
Argh! Now Im getting frustrated AGAIN! ¤/&%(/#"¤"#! It looks like all of you just did a compile as it was a trivial thing! How the &%&&" did you do it? Its feels like, when you really struggle and struggle to do something really difficult, and there comes a guy and does the thing on the fly

Re: [osol-discuss] DTrace Graphical User Interface (GUI)

2007-07-27 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> The purpose of this message is to announce the > availability of the > NetBeans plug-in module for DTrace. > > The NetBeans DTrace plug-in module is a Graphical > User Interface (GUI) > for running DTrace scripts. > > The DTrace plug-in module works with both Sun Studio > 12 IDE and NetBeans >

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> > At one point wasn't there an embedded OS based on > the > > Solaris kernel? > > Chorus? > > ChorusOS was his own OS that Sun acquired. They also > acquired Cobalt systems which ran RedHat Linux ported > to the MIPS processor. > > Both product lines were killed shortly thereafter, > however Ch

Re: [osol-discuss] Brief introduction of Solaris

2007-07-27 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> Wrong list and where is the proper Chinese version? > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org The original post was submitted to the Shengzhen OpenSolaris Users Group discussion forum with a cc to the main forum.

Re: [osol-discuss] About Indinana and Gentoo model. (Important!!!!!)

2007-07-27 Thread UNIX admin
> At one point wasn't there an embedded OS based on the > Solaris kernel? > Chorus? ChorusOS was his own OS that Sun acquired. They also acquired Cobalt systems which ran RedHat Linux ported to the MIPS processor. Both product lines were killed shortly thereafter, however ChorusOS has been open