[osol-discuss] remote USB drive on X11 terminal

2009-04-07 Thread Karel Gardas
Hello, I do have here old notebook good enough to be just an X11 terminal to my Solaris (snv_79a) workstation. The user on this terminal would like to use from time to time her USB flash drive. My question is: is it possible with X11 by using some clever trick? The notebook is running Xubuntu

Re: [osol-discuss] remote USB drive on X11 terminal

2009-04-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Hello, I do have here old notebook good enough to be just an X11 terminal to my Solaris (snv_79a) workstation. The user on this terminal would like to use from time to time her USB flash drive. My question is: is it possible with X11 by using some clever trick? The notebook is running

Re: [osol-discuss] uname -a ... 32bit vs 64bit

2009-04-07 Thread UNIX admin
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Re: [osol-discuss] uname -a ... 32bit vs 64bit

2009-04-07 Thread Casper . Dik
Also: I personally don't understand why Sun made that design decision back in 1997/98 to treat a booted 32bit kernel and booted 64bit kernel as the same platform, and hence to identify it with the same uname() field values. In this case I prefer how linux handles it. Why? In that time you

Re: [osol-discuss] disconnecting hdd from zfs mirror hangs whole

2009-04-07 Thread UNIX admin
Why is it though that it appears many gnu tools have been adopted for Opensolaris? Is it just to try to make a transition for linux users a little less painful or something to do with licensing? Somehow someone at Sun figured that they wanted to woo all the Linux developers over to

Re: [osol-discuss] disconnecting hdd from zfs mirror hangs whole

2009-04-07 Thread UNIX admin
I have had different experiences than you in this respect. All I was trying to say is that they have excellent ideas, but the implementation has traditionally fallen short. Case in point is Java, write once run anywhere is a grand idea, but the complex language and lack of a compiler make

Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone interested in maths or science as a hobby? (Math

2009-04-07 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Hello Dr. Kirkby, thank you for this information. It is a pity they leave OpenSolaris out. I'm going to complain about it myself, plus I put some flyers into TU-Berlin's Maths building and tell some students and teachers about it. Unfortunately many Mathematicians simply run XP or Vista

Re: [osol-discuss] uname -a ... 32bit vs 64bit

2009-04-07 Thread UNIX admin
Also: I personally don't understand why Sun made that design decision back in 1997/98 to treat a booted 32bit kernel and booted 64bit kernel as the same platform, and hence to identify it with the same uname() field values. In this case I prefer how linux handles it. Why? It makes perfect

Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone interested in maths or science as a

2009-04-07 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
[...] Lastly, the software they are making available to Windows users, Linux users and Mac users is NOT available to Solaris users unless they want to fork out well over $3000. Ok, that point has emerged in other discussion too - that their license for Solaris is way out of

Re: [osol-discuss] disconnecting hdd from zfs mirror hangs whole

2009-04-07 Thread UNIX admin
actually, this is two-sided coin. Sun Studio supports less architectures and less languages than gcc. I was writing about the compiler himself, not the front end 'cc'. Yes, what you write is true; but let's face it, any high-performance or system stuff will be written either in C or

Re: [osol-discuss] Speculation that McNealy will replace CEO Jonathan Schwartz in the aftermath of the deal?s collapse (rumors ... ?As a policy Sun does not comment on rumors or speculation?)

2009-04-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20090406/sun-may-the-schwartz-be-with-you/?reflink=ATD_yahoo_ticker Sun: May the Schwartz Be With You Do you like to tell us that Scott tells Jonathan: I am your father. Jörg --

Re: [osol-discuss] disconnecting hdd from zfs mirror hangs whole

2009-04-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
UNIX admin wrote: And the GNU tools are mostly inferior products in terms of performance: for example, GNU AWK is slower than System V AWK (this has been chewed into oblivion on the Usenet); or There's an interesting tradeoff with GNU awk though; back in '03, I'd run into problems

Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone interested in maths or science as a hobby? (Mathematica on Solaris)

2009-04-07 Thread ken mays
Some of you might know of the program 'Mathematica' from Wolfram Research. http://www.wolfram.com/products/mathematica/index.html Yes, for many years in the academic halls of student engineering toolkits. As for your comments, many of us asked 'other' companies to support Sun Solaris in

Re: [osol-discuss] disconnecting hdd from zfs mirror hangs whole

2009-04-07 Thread James Carlson
UNIX admin writes: Or volume management, which to this day doesn't work correctly (one can't create a zpool on a removable device, then eject (zpool export) and plug that device somewhere else and have it instantly imported by vold(1M). And if you're interested, the RFE for this was closed

Re: [osol-discuss] pkg(5) Search was Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun

2009-04-07 Thread Alexander Vlasov
Rudimentary is relative. For example: * can you search in aptitude for the package that contains the a specific architecture version (sparc, i386, etc.) of a specific file? Besides of OpenSolaris, OsX is the only system where application being delivered as one package for all supported

Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone interested in maths or science as a

2009-04-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
Since the home and pro editions are the same code, there is no need to do any port. Wolfram claim it is the same program, just licensed differently, and someone has said on another forum the binary is *exactly* the same, byte-for-byte. Well then, in that case we can both get on the phone and

Re: [osol-discuss] disconnecting hdd from zfs mirror hangs whole

2009-04-07 Thread Alexander Vlasov
UNIX admin wrote: And the GNU tools are mostly inferior products in terms of performance: for example, GNU AWK is slower than System V AWK (this has been chewed into oblivion on the Usenet); or GCC generates slower code than any vendor's compilers (Sun Studio will trod GCC into the ground in

Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone interested in maths or science as a hobby? (Math

2009-04-07 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Ken, you are missing the point. There is no port required. The only difference between the professional and home versions is the license conditions. Someone on sci.math.symbolic has said the linux binaries are exactly the same, byte-for-byte. Wolfram Research claim it is exactly the same

Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone interested in maths or science as a hobby? (Math

2009-04-07 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Ken, you are missing the point. There is no port required. The only difference between the professional and home versions is the license conditions. Someone on sci.math.symbolic has said the linux binaries are exactly the same, byte-for-byte. Wolfram Research claim it is exactly the same

Re: [osol-discuss] disconnecting hdd from zfs mirror hangs whole

2009-04-07 Thread Harry Putnam
UNIX admin tripivc...@hotmail.com writes: And let's not forget bash: a broken we know better replacement for Korn and Bourne shells. Don't mean to keep pounding here but you didn't really give a specific example of this brokenness. I'm not sharp enough to just `get' what you are driving at.

[osol-discuss] Analysis: Why Linux prospers, Solaris dies?

2009-04-07 Thread Bisu July
Have you met some kind of resistance in a company, when you suggested Solaris instead of Linux? Why this resistance? Frankly, Linux is not on par with Solaris, and also Solaris is cheaper than Linux, and still Linux prospers. The same with FreeBSD, which is more stable and also free. Still it

Re: [osol-discuss] disconnecting hdd from zfs mirror hangs whole

2009-04-07 Thread Casper . Dik
UNIX admin tripivc...@hotmail.com writes: And let's not forget bash: a broken we know better replacement for Korn and Bourne shells. Don't mean to keep pounding here but you didn't really give a specific example of this brokenness. I'm not sharp enough to just `get' what you are driving at.

Re: [osol-discuss] Analysis: Why Linux prospers, Solaris dies?

2009-04-07 Thread Jan Kopriva
Beware of Mossad, they are watching all your steps, already!.Oh my god, I thought that 1st of April has already passed jk On Apr 7, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Bisu July wrote: Have you met some kind of resistance in a company, when you suggested Solaris instead of Linux? Why this

Re: [osol-discuss] Analysis: Why Linux prospers, Solaris dies?

2009-04-07 Thread Alexander Vlasov
OK, now we have THE freak. Bisu July wrote: [...] -- | Regards, | Alexander 'Sasha' Vlasov. | Solaris System Test: Hitting tomorrow bugs today ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Analysis: Why Linux prospers, Solaris dies?

2009-04-07 Thread Ché Kristo
What do you say? Am I well researched? Could this be true? Does it make sense? SUN is loosing because of POLITICS? I don't think your world view and mine even remotely connect so I don't think I am able to critique your analysis on its merits. I will say this though; AIPAC is as valid a

Re: [osol-discuss] pkg(5) Search was Re: Possible IBM aquisition of Sun

2009-04-07 Thread Shawn Walker
Alexander Vlasov wrote: Rudimentary is relative. For example: * can you search in aptitude for the package that contains the a specific architecture version (sparc, i386, etc.) of a specific file? Besides of OpenSolaris, OsX is the only system where application being delivered as one

Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone interested in maths or science as a hobby? (Math

2009-04-07 Thread ken mays
--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Dr. David Kirkby opensola...@althorne.org wrote: From: Dr. David Kirkby opensola...@althorne.org Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Anyone interested in maths or science as a hobby? (Math To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:41 AM Ken,

Re: [osol-discuss] disconnecting hdd from zfs mirror hangs whole

2009-04-07 Thread a b
When saying something like that, it helps quite a lot of you can cite the actual CR number so that others can help either rescue the CR (if it's in need of rescue) or provide a more comprehensive explanation. The CR is 681661 http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6811661 In this

[osol-discuss] Sun vs. ________

2009-04-07 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
I have to admit the state of Sun doesn't look too good right now, and that makes me nervous switching to sun/solaris. That being said - speculation and fears aside . Is there any reason to choose Sun vs Dell vs something else, to be a solaris server? The goal is to use ZFS and create a

Re: [osol-discuss] Analysis: Why Linux prospers, Solaris dies?

2009-04-07 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
It's really simple. Linux is more popular because it's more popular. The same reason why windows is more popular than linux. Most people don't care about the OS. They make OS decisions based on application availability, and although a lot of applications exist for Linux Solaris Windows

Re: [osol-discuss] disconnecting hdd from zfs mirror hangs whole

2009-04-07 Thread James Carlson
a b writes: When saying something like that, it helps quite a lot of you can cite the actual CR number so that others can help either rescue the CR (if it's in need of rescue) or provide a more comprehensive explanation. The CR is 681661

[osol-discuss] KVM-switch rebooting system

2009-04-07 Thread Sean Bushby
Hi Everyone, Not sure what is happening. Seems whenever I switch from my OpenSolaris snv110 server to windows and back it restarts the server. I have disabled sending breaks in /etc/default/kbd but t's still happening? Can anyone shed some light on this? It's a belkin DVI KVM-switch.

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun vs. ________

2009-04-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
The one thing I can think of, which would be a possible problem point for a Dell is #8211; In order to swap a failed disk without taking the system down, you need to be able to identify the failed disk, remove it and replace it, without shutting down into BIOS.nbsp; Traditionally on

Re: [osol-discuss] KVM-switch rebooting system

2009-04-07 Thread Sean Bushby
unplugged USB stick and seems ok now? Weird?? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun vs. ________

2009-04-07 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
The one thing I can think of, which would be a possible problem point for a Dell is #8211; In order to swap a failed disk without taking the system down, you need to be able to identify the failed disk, remove it and replace it, without shutting down into BIOS.nbsp; Traditionally on

[osol-discuss] touchpad scroll and other

2009-04-07 Thread Sri Kon
I have installed and running Opensolaris 2008.11 on a Toshiba Tecra M5. I am unable to get the following working yet. 1. Tochpad scroll 2. mplayer plugin to Firefox 3. Repository to download and install packages to play DVDs and MP3s I was running Fedora 8 on the same laptop previously with all

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun vs. ________

2009-04-07 Thread Andrew C. Henle
1. Hardware quality Well, first off, with hardware you pretty much get what you pay for if you're buying off-the-shelf gear. Yes, there are exceptions. There's a reason that Dell is cheaper. For one example, I tried to used a Dell SC440 in an IO-intensive role. The onboard SATA controller

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun vs. ________

2009-04-07 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
Andrew C Henle said ... In summary ... Yup, it sounds like you're basically agreeing with the same thoughts I was having. If Dell says solaris is supported and they sell it with their server, probably it will be fine, although it might not perform as well as a more expensive (Sun) server and

Re: [osol-discuss] The IBM deal is dead, so...

2009-04-07 Thread Ivan Wang
Given Sun's ability to look good to investors and Wall St. (other words, making $$) I doubt there will be lots of similar attempt in the future. Now Sun is (almost) a walking dead in the middle of desert with vulture hovering overhead. And the latest report from The Reg. does not make one

Re: [osol-discuss] bash signal handling

2009-04-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Scott Rotondo scott.roto...@sun.com writes: casper@sun.com wrote: The most broken part of bash is its signal handling: cd /net/somehost/file/dir ; rm -rf * somehost hangs; now you type a ^C to interrupt the cd. What happens? bash-3.2$ sleep 10; echo foo ^C foo bash-3.2$

Re: [osol-discuss] KVM-switch rebooting system

2009-04-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Sean Bushby sean.bus...@gmail.com writes: unplugged USB stick and seems ok now? Weird?? From a machine or from a USB port on KVM unit? I'm having mysterious reboots too, and use a kvm. But don't have any usb sticks plugged in anywhere. ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun vs. ________

2009-04-07 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
I'd love it if anyone can point me onto anything concrete - - Something that doesn't work right with Dell servers running solaris - Some benchmark that indicates the dell isn't as good .. - Some admin who uses solaris/Dell and says everything is fine ... Or something concrete like that ...

Re: [osol-discuss] KVM-switch rebooting system

2009-04-07 Thread Artem Kachitchkine
Harry Putnam wrote: Sean Bushby sean.bus...@gmail.com writes: unplugged USB stick and seems ok now? Weird?? From a machine or from a USB port on KVM unit? I'm having mysterious reboots too, and use a kvm. But don't have any usb sticks plugged in anywhere. You're unlikely to receive any

[osol-discuss] Sun's Six Biggest Mistakes

2009-04-07 Thread Martin Bochnig
http://www.forbes.com/2009/04/06/sun-microsystems-enterprise-technology-enterprise-tech-sun.html ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun vs. ________

2009-04-07 Thread Anon Y Mous
Dude, listen to me. I work as a Linux and Windows 2003 administrator in a data center that has a thousand plus Dell servers in it and as a result of Dell's badly designed hardware, my life is a never ending nightmare! The hardware RAID cards they use in their older servers are SO BAD

Re: [osol-discuss] The IBM deal is dead, so...

2009-04-07 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
1) The guy who penned that article for the Reg doesn't know squat. To all intents and purposes, it's pure guess work. 2) The same goes for practically every other news site. 3) There has been no independent verification of any of this stuff by any company or any news outlet at all ever,