Re: [osol-discuss] [distribution-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.0 ready for testing

2010-07-24 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/7/24 "C. Bergström" : > Joerg Schilling wrote: >> >> "C. Bergström" wrote: >> >> >>> >>> Did you pull the libc work from Garrett and drop that on there? >>> >> >> No, I just created a halfway clean base for starting with the emancipation >> work. >> >> >>> >>> Which compiler did you use to bu

Re: [osol-discuss] An effort to rally around - building a real, community driven distro...

2010-05-19 Thread Martin Bochnig
everything else. On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Martin Bochnig wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:43 AM, John Plocher wrote: >> Re: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=129430&tstart=15 >> >> As Dennis said, "We are in a situation after some five y

Re: [osol-discuss] An effort to rally around - building a real, community driven distro...

2010-05-19 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:43 AM, John Plocher wrote: > Re: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=129430&tstart=15 > > As Dennis said, "We are in a situation after some five years of the > OpenSolaris community where one can not simply download sources and build > something runnable. We

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun's libm availability

2010-05-12 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Stathis Kamperis wrote: > Greetings everyone, > > I've tried to spot the libm code in onnv-gate, but I failed. Does the > Sun's libm fall into the binary/closed bits ? > (Yes, I'm aware of the fdlibm but that is outdated and I have reasons > to believe that Sun's l

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Edward Martinez wrote: > I was wondering with  D'Amore jumping over to Nexenta. if the time comes  to > take  drastic measures,  if they are willing and have the resources, can > something  be organized with nexenta to become the fork? Troll. __

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene?

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Bochnig
>> No need to wait that long. If there is a call for a vote on the matter you >> have my public input for a formal ban under the terms of the TOU now. If >> there are some procedural details we can sort that out as required. >> >> > > Quick question -- will a ban do any good?  Is there anyway to ve

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] [ogb-discuss] This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene?

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > John Sonnenschein wrote: >> You are forging emails for your own political gains and I'm going to have to >> ask you to stop slandering me and my work *immediately*. It is completely >> unacceptable behaviour. > > Given Mr. Johnson's prev

Re: [osol-discuss] Apologies to all: I fell in Mr. "Dave Johnson"'s trap twice __/__ Re: Slap the troll... / was: Re: This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene?

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Bochnig
> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Roland Mainz > wrote: >> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Dave Johnson >> wrote: >> [snip] >> Bye, >> Roland >> >> P.S.: Wearing my hat as ksh93-integration project lead: No, neither >> the ksh93-integration project nor the POSIX modernisation project are >> de

[osol-discuss] Apologies to all: I fell in Mr. "Dave Johnson"'s trap twice __/__ Re: Slap the troll... / was: Re: This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene?

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Bochnig
*** Apologies to all *** ... that I fell in Mr. "Dave Johnson"'s traps twice. Recently I didn't have much time for OpenSolaris. I did not back-check "Dave Johnson"'s claims sufficiently enough. Sorry! %martin bochnig On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Ro

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene?

2010-05-10 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > >>On 05-10-10, John Plocher wrote: >>On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Dave Johnson >> wrote: >>> This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene? > >> While I have not been following this soap opera in excruciatin

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene?

2010-05-10 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 4:33 PM, John Plocher wrote: > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Dave Johnson > wrote: >> This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene? > > While I have not been following this soap opera in excruciating > detail, my reading of the ARC discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene?

2010-05-10 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/5/10 Matthias Pfützner : > Worse, quoting himself as proof... ;-) Matthias Pfützner: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2010-May/056462.html --->> A [ ] You are able to read B [ ] ... ??? > > You(Jennifer Pioch) wrote: >> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:50

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] Oracle forces Opera.com out of Solaris (was: Opera drops browser support for Solaris)

2010-04-29 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Dave Johnson wrote: > Richard L. Hamilton wrote: >> Since Opera is fast and leaks memory less than Firefox, this stinks. >> >> Has anyone ported Chromium (the open source of Chrome) to Solaris? >> That wouldn't do all the other stuff that Opera does, but it would

Re: [osol-discuss] Someone please tell me I'm wrong

2010-04-28 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: >> Can I have whatever you're having? =] > > Yeah, what he's saying sounds a lot like an article I read years ago: > > http://books.google.com/books?id=ASoDMBAJ&pg=PA60#v=onepage&q&f=false > > Maybe that article kept me from trying th

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] URGENT: Kernel lets 32bit process consume >4G memory?

2010-04-24 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Yves Huang >> pmap: cannot examine 5608: address space is changing >> >> and get a closer look, try stopping the process first: >> >> pstop 5608 >> >> and then running pmap or whatever to inspect it, and finally running >> >> prun 5608 >> >> to let it run again. >

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris build 134a has closed

2010-04-24 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Albert Lee wrote: > Those of us feeling left in the dark might be pleased to know that build > 134a, the first candidate for the next stable release of OpenSolaris, has > been tagged in Oracle's release branch (in project jargon: "snv_134a, the > first respin of 13

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle charging for ODF plugin

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:04 AM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: >> On 22/04/2010 11:11, Svein Skogen wrote: >> > On 22.04.2010 02:27, Alan Hargreaves wrote: >> >> You miss the point. This is a discussion list >> about OpenSolaris. Not >> >> about a Microsoft Office Plugins. Not about >> Solaris. Not a

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Bayard Bell wrote: > Martin, > > This is a fundamental misstatement of Oracle's position as a software vendor > prior to acquiring Sun. Oracle faces considerable competition from sources > such as MS SQL Server and DB2. It has nothing like a monopoly over the RDBM

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote: > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Stefan Parvu wrote: >> But this will take some time. > > > FQ4' 2018 would be a good quarter for a first announcement and (maybe) > meeting. > What do you folks think? Ouch,

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Stefan Parvu wrote: > Fully agree that many variables changed since Oracle got Sun. As I posted on > solarisx86 yahoo > mailing list we need to wait a bit longer for all these things to be cleared > but as well > Oracle should commit and dont let space for confus

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Alexander Eremin wrote: > On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 15:28 +0300, Martin Bochnig wrote: >> Hello. What? You prefer the head_into_the_sand-approach??? >> >> If +1 in that manner, >> then the same as response: >> >> >> >&g

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Mike DeMarco wrote: >> >> So, folks, again, GET USED TO the new communication, >> and DO NEVER EVER draw >> WRONG conclusions! >> >> It's so easy! > > Normally I would agree, but I know for a fact that this lack of communication > about a way forward with Sun prod

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alexander Eremin wrote: > On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 09:44 +0200, Matthias Pfützner wrote: >> You (Stephen Bunn) wrote: >> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Martin Bochnig wrote: >> > >> > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/21 Matthias Pfützner : > You (Martin Bochnig) wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez >> wrote: >> > it appears  the  so called writers,reporters  from many well respected >> > news sites are  actually in a way  wishing  the demise of

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-20 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Paul Armstrong wrote: > You're right. > > My memory was that he'd resigned and I only found news articles saying as > much (and until I corrected it, the Wikipedia article also stated he'd > resigned; unfortunately I can't fix the news articles that say he resign

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-20 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Paul Armstrong wrote: > Except that Simon resigned. It was his decision not Oracle's. Who says that? Who or what are your sources?? If I recall correctly, he told the opposite: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss/2010-April/055436.html Si

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-20 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Stephen Bunn wrote: > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Martin Bochnig wrote: >> >> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez >> wrote: >> > it appears  the  so called writers,reporters  from many well respected >>

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-20 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez wrote: > it appears  the  so called writers,reporters  from many well respected news > sites are  actually in a way  wishing  the demise of opensolaris.  almost > every article written on opensolaris nowadays are about how  it's > finished,doome

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-15 Thread Martin Bochnig
Answer: TOO high. %mab On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Peter Jones wrote: > I am interested in very clear terms what the pros and cons of a FORK is from > a technical point of view? > > Support for a successful operating system is very roughly composed of the > following > Technical devel

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-15 Thread Martin Bochnig
, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Martin Bochnig wrote: >>>> For the benefit of everyone else who might want to use them? (Unless you >>>> believe they're less deserving than Sun, of course.) >>> sure. But this is my position: If Sun doesnt want them

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-15 Thread Martin Bochnig
an.coopersm...@oracle.com >         Oracle Solaris Platform Engineering: X Window System Sadly Sun does not WANT my contributions. So why shall I publish them? I only do so, if you guys intend to use my libpciaccess fixes plus SPARC gfx Xorg patches. Then alone and only. Therefore not.

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Ian Collins wrote: > On 04/15/10 04:19 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> >> Chad Welsh wrote: >> >>> >>> Well maybe this distro will communicate with its people besides the ones >>> inside the company about the status of its latest release since you cut the >>> balls

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Fwd: [pkg-discuss] [REVIEW] backport-2009.06 fix for 11833

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Albert Lee wrote: > On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:13:32 +0300, Martin Bochnig > wrote: >> Hello, I decided to forward this message, as most people seem to >> ignore the coding related lists. >> Maybe the subject gives a first clue or indicator,

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Albert Lee wrote: > On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:41:19 +0300, Martin Bochnig > wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Pickett >> wrote: >>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Derek Cicero >>> wrote: >>>> FYI -

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Calum Benson wrote: > On 14/04/2010 20:48, Andras Barna wrote: >> >> https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ > > And, ironically: > > > Cheeri, > Calum. Ohh:((( Thos dax

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
not even OpenSolaris). Not based on any contributions. How can this have been sustainable? priveti, %martin > Derek/Valerie: Is it feasible to set up a similar program for > Opensolaris to reward those who significantly contributed to > Opensolaris? > > Olga > > On Wed, Apr 1

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
and not just their own pockets, then they are doomed to end, where Sun has. Bitter-cold world. > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Pickett >> wrote: >>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Derek Cicer

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Pickett wrote: > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Derek Cicero wrote: >> FYI - Oracle is no longer offering a free OpenSolaris CD shipping program at >> this time. As a result, we have removed all links and icons from the >> opensolaris.org site. If you wou

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
ne ... Thanks for clarifying. %martin > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >> >> Von: Martin Bochnig >> An: matth...@pfuetzner.de >> Cc: pgr...@optonline.net, opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org >> Gesendet: 14.4.'10,  20:30 >> >> 2010/4/14 Matthia

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/14 Matthias Pfützner : >> They need their Opensolaris. > > THEIR? > > Who "owns" that distribution? > > And: if it's their's, they should be building it themselfes... > > Really, it seems, you do know what a community is, and how open source > works... > > Matthias You interchanged To:-f

[osol-discuss] Fwd: [pkg-discuss] [REVIEW] backport-2009.06 fix for 11833

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
Hello, I decided to forward this message, as most people seem to ignore the coding related lists. Maybe the subject gives a first clue or indicator, what Oracle plans for the future: Maybe the name 2009.06 stays the current release for a few more weeks. Whatever. It does not matter, because this is

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Paul Gress wrote: > On 04/14/10 01:34 PM, Giovanni Tirloni wrote: >> >> Sounds like you are experienced     ;-) > > > Personal attacks rarely will help you make your point so please stop it. > > > > I didn't take is as a personal attack, I saw the smiley face, it w

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Paul Gress wrote: > On 04/14/10 01:11 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote: > > > How can it appear to be ^frozen^? > Then maybe you are not subscribed to the right lists. > > > > Appears and actual are two different things.  What I mean by ap

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
It appears we are now in the stop giving it > stage and the community is now going through withdrawal symptoms.  They need > their Opensolaris. Sounds like you are experienced ;-) %martin bochnig >Unfortunately, I don't know when new builds > will be able to be publ

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] [laptop-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/14 Jennifer Pioch : > 2010/4/14 "C. Bergström" : >> Jennifer Pioch wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Chad Welsh wrote: >>> Well we have heard from one of the OGB members about forking this project to save it from the hands of [b]"HOracle"[/b] the multi-headed, v

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Chad Welsh wrote: >> So, when and who might be the first step/person to make this happen to >> protect what has been done so far? > > What would your fork do differently than the main project, besides have almost > no developers working o

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
h, are you so sure? Maybe the label would be upgraded to reflect a ^new^ version. But I doubt many would be able to even remotely keep up with what Sun/Oracle is contributing in real diffs. %martin bochnig ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Chad Welsh wrote: >> Well maybe this distro will communicate with its people besides the ones >> inside the company about the status of its latest release since you cut the >> balls off the release branch that should have continued. > >

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:30 PM, George Koutras wrote: > I start shivering to the idea that oracle might drop opensolaris or keep > developing only the Openstorage required portions of it, and adding to that > the sudden silence in indiana-discuss from "@oracle.com" & "@sun.com" (last > email o

Re: [osol-discuss] Firefox 3.5.5 with SXCE can't load page

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Ian Collins wrote: > On 04/13/10 05:39 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote: >> >>  www.namecheap.com just takes a while, until it loads. >> But the statements relating to www.zoll.de are still valid. >> >> For over 3 weeks I tried to loa

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_137 bfu

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
y to address the actual matters I have brought up. I know this from you. And I have better things to do. Maybe the other readers think about my statements, and maybe they do or do not agree. But my duty as OpenSolaris enthusiast, lover, contributor and community member has been done at this po

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_137 bfu

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
olaris2.8) People use different terminology as to what is ^porting^ The real stuff was done by Sun/Oracle. It is openly available here: http://dlc.sun.com/osol/sfw/downloads/ Still being updated and PUBLISHED. Paid by Oracle. I don´t know about you, but I myself don´t wanna miss these services. Remember: The can close the door, lock it and we stay outside. They would then keep all src for themselves and only release binaries, if they release their own updates at all in any form. -- %martin bochnig ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Firefox 3.5.5 with SXCE can't load page

2010-04-13 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Ian Collins wrote: > On 04/13/10 05:39 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote: >> >>  www.namecheap.com just takes a while, until it loads. >> But the statements relating to www.zoll.de are still valid. >> >> For over 3 weeks I tried to loa

Re: [osol-discuss] Firefox 3.5.5 with SXCE can't load page

2010-04-12 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:05 AM, bsd wrote: > SXCE build 130 which is the last build produced has all that I want as far as > software like Bluefish.  I've tried to compile Bluefish on OpenSolaris b134 > but received errors, so I thought of SXCE and installed. > > There is one problem though and

Re: [osol-discuss] Firefox 3.5.5 with SXCE can't load page

2010-04-12 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Martin Bochnig wrote: > I can confirm, that there must be a bug in recent builds. > It is not DNS related and the client (in your case browser) does not > matter. > Have the same timeouts with wget. > > Try to load www.zoll.de !! > > >

Re: [osol-discuss] Firefox 3.5.5 with SXCE can't load page

2010-04-12 Thread Martin Bochnig
I can confirm, that there must be a bug in recent builds. It is not DNS related and the client (in your case browser) does not matter. Have the same timeouts with wget. Try to load www.zoll.de !! It works on all my Solaris SPARC boxes, but not at all on x86 OS2010.02_preview snv_131. This is

Re: [osol-discuss] Gosling resigns from Oracle

2010-04-11 Thread Martin Bochnig
It is sad. A shock!!! Good night! :( mab On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Chris Pickett wrote: > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Michael Lee wrote: >> Gosling resigns from Oracle. http://www.taranfx.com/father-of-java-resigns. >> >> I would have thought that Oracle would have tried t

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/5 Мартин Бохниг (Martin Bochnig) : > 2010/4/5 Мартин Бохниг   (Martin Bochnig) : >> James: For 3 pretty ROI-worthless aquisitions alone (Cobalt, STK and >> MySQL) Sun's top-management spent 10 Billion USD (ten thousand >> millions!!!). >> Every time the

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/5 James Mansion : > Мартин Бохниг (Martin Bochnig) wrote: >> >> Solaris code for marketing purposes, rather than creating an >> independent, community-led, open source project with the ability to >> make real decisions. >> > > I think you're mi

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/5 Мартин Бохниг (Martin Bochnig) : > James: For 3 pretty ROI-worthless aquisitions alone (Cobalt, STK and > MySQL) Sun's top-management spent 10 Billion USD (ten thousand > millions!!!). > Every time the behaved like kids: At hopelessly overheated markets - > instead

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/5 Мартин Бохниг (Martin Bochnig) : > I agree with that summary of real events and facts. > Hence I decided to post everything inline: > > > http://www.michaeldolan.com/1102 > > > Thursday, February 14th, 2008 > “I told you so” in order? Roy Field

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
immediately. 2010/4/5 Мартин Бохниг (Martin Bochnig) : > James: For 3 pretty ROI-worthless aquisitions alone (Cobalt, STK and > MySQL) Sun's top-management spent 10 Billion USD (ten thousand > millions!!!). > Every time the behaved like kids: At hopelessly overheated marke

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
James: For 3 pretty ROI-worthless aquisitions alone (Cobalt, STK and MySQL) Sun's top-management spent 10 Billion USD (ten thousand millions!!!). Every time the behaved like kids: At hopelessly overheated markets - instead of selling something - they bought! Obviously the paid way overpriced amount

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-04 Thread Martin Bochnig
history. Only time can show, if they decide to back their (few) pro-OpenSolaris words with good action. Then we know more. %martin > > You (?? ??   (Martin Bochnig)) wrote: >> 2010/4/4 Matthias Pfützner : >> > You (?? ??   (Martin Bochnig)) wrote: >

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-04 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > It's been an interesting "does he take sugar" experience watching the > conversation about me; I thought I'd interject with a link to a story that > has correct information: > > http://www.infoworld.com/d/adventures-in-it/former-sun-open-sou

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-04 Thread Martin Bochnig
Hi Peter, ok, thanks for the polish! Regards, %martin 2010/4/4 Peter Tribble : > 2010/4/4 Мартин Бохниг   (Martin Bochnig) : >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Volker A. Brandt wrote: >>> Hello HeCSa! >>> >>> >>>> I (we) sent emails to

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-04 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/4 Matthias Pfützner : > You (?? ??   (Martin Bochnig)) wrote: >> Did you notice? Their first move after the takeover was to lay-off Sun >> open-source officer Simon Phipps. Can you explain this with your >> logics from above? How would you? > > He

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-04 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Volker A. Brandt wrote: > Hello HeCSa! > > >> I (we) sent emails to the "assigned" Oracle employee to deal with the >> communities, but didn't receive an answer in more than a month, or maybe >> more time. > > Have you tried emailing Jimm Grisanzio, or someone from

Re: [osol-discuss] Save OpenSolaris (according to Katonda)

2010-04-03 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Charles Hedrick wrote: > I understand that this is largely FUD. But can someone confirm that there is > a copy of all of the  open-source code someplace not under Oracle control? At > this point the only precaution I'd take is to make sure that there is. Yes. I

Re: [osol-discuss] Save OpenSolaris (according to Katonda)

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Bochnig
Forgive me all my spelling errors. Message written from Laptop. Need a break ... %mab ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Save OpenSolaris (according to Katonda)

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/1 Matthew Nawrocki : > What I mean't by this statement is that person can't see the forest through > the trees and is blinded by the FUD. Make sense? > > Matt Ok, now _yes_ . %martin ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@op

Re: [osol-discuss] Save OpenSolaris (according to Katonda)

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Matthew Nawrocki wrote: > Once again, the FUD machine caused someone to become crippled. Well these > kinds of fellas are a dime a dozen anymore. > > Matt ??? ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@op

Re: [osol-discuss] Save OpenSolaris (according to Katonda)

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Bochnig
n/Oracle did and still does? There were a few glitches, agreed. But otherwise it is like it is. %martin bochnig MartUX Inc. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Cannot boot after power failure...

2010-03-22 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:08 AM, wrote: > >>On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 12:34:15PM +0100, casper@sun.com wrote: >>> >>> >Thanks for that explanation of why there is no failsafe boot option for >>> >OpenSolaris. I had wond > ere >>> d about that, since I'd seen it in Solaris Nevada/Express. >>>

Re: [osol-discuss] Cannot boot after power failure...

2010-03-20 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 3:14 AM, Ron Mexico wrote: >> update-archive -R /mnt/foo > > I assume you mean: bootadm update-archive -R /mnt/foo ? > > I did that, and it said missing /boot/grub on root /mnt/rpool Bingo! And that is the reason why I had written: "(Im not sure right now, if you now ge

Re: [osol-discuss] Cannot boot after power failure...

2010-03-19 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/3/20 Мартин Бохниг (Martin Bochnig) : > #2) update-archive -R /mnt/foo  rpool Errm, of course this cmd line without "rpool" ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Cannot boot after power failure...

2010-03-19 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Ron Mexico wrote: > I have a storage server running on snv_129. When trying to reboot my server > it was stuck in the perpetual loop of the happy face boot screen. After > trying to boot in single-user mode, I got this error message: > > WARNING: The following li

Re: [osol-discuss] Problem with tun driver

2010-03-11 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Antoine Benkemoun wrote: > Thank you for your help. > > Recompiling the driver from source fixed the problem. > > Antoine Hello, next time you come into such trouble it should be enough, if you: # update_drv -v tun (then hopefully it attaches again!) Rgds.

[osol-discuss] Fwd: Nomination of Moinak Ghosh for OGB 10/11 election (!!!OpenSolaris distro from SUN owes it’s origin to BeleniX.!!!)

2010-02-28 Thread Martin Bochnig
I dislike and hate injustice. Therefore I bring this into memory once again: -- Forwarded message -- From: Martin Bochnig Date: Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:06 AM Subject: Nomination of Moinak Ghosh for OGB 10/11 election (!!!OpenSolaris distro from SUN owes it’s origin to BeleniX

Re: [osol-discuss] very long wait in the end of pkg install

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Shawn Walker wrote: > On 02/27/10 05:54 AM, casper@sun.com wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:48 PM,  wrote: > well the whole install took 2 hours > for 1 pkg !! > it seems that disk read/write here is the bottleneck (?). > iostat -D

Re: [osol-discuss] very long wait in the end of pkg install

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Jürgen Keil wrote: >> I ran pkg install with truss, in the hope of >> discovering why it takes so long to complete, >> especially AFTER it has reported that every thing is installed. > > You are running a fresh install of b133, correct? > > Has pkg been always that

Re: [osol-discuss] very long wait in the end of pkg install

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Bruno Damour wrote: > Ok I have ONLY 1G mem, not much nowadays but anyway. > This laptop has been tested on different systems, first of all it runs WinXP > (at work) but I have also run gentoo (from stage 1 !, all self-compiled) and > I never felt it unresponsive

Re: [osol-discuss] very long wait in the end of pkg install

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:48 PM, wrote: > >>well the whole install took 2 hours >>for 1 pkg !! >>it seems that disk read/write here is the bottleneck (?). >>iostat -D 2 shows my hd busy at around 100% >>iosnoop reports a lot of access by pkg : > > How much memory?  It is possible that you're pag

Re: [osol-discuss] very long wait in the end of pkg install

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Bochnig
help and got burned for it (in 2007). -->> Your Choice <<-- And worse for you: Customers also choose. %martin bochnig Old page was: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+conary-eval (most things seem to have been deleted after website migration) On Sat, Feb 27, 2010

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris.org says "Invalid account state: Inactive." ?

2010-02-10 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: > > I am wondering if there was a large change in the SSO/signon pages at > OS.org given that my account seems to be marked "inactive".  I think I > have had an account since the first day of the pilot. Hi Dennis, I had the same problem 2

Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/22/sun_schwartz_signoff/

2010-01-26 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/22/sun_schwartz_signoff/ >> >> I always knew (after 2006 at least) that JS is a God-damn  *TRAITOR*. >> >> ¨Upon change in control, every employee needs to emotionally resign >> from Sun. Go home, lig

Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/22/sun_schwartz_signoff/

2010-01-26 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/22/sun_schwartz_signoff/ >> >> I always knew (after 2006 at least) that JS is a God-damn  *TRAITOR*. >> >> ¨Upon change in control, every employee needs to emotionally resign >> from Sun. Go home, lig

Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/22/sun_schwartz_signoff/

2010-01-26 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Uros Nedic wrote: > >   Does Google have a focus? They are going pretty well. >   If you are on the market you have to diversify your > product portfolio to be able to minimize risk, and hope > that one technology will bring revenues to cover all possible > looses 

[osol-discuss] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/22/sun_schwartz_signoff/

2010-01-25 Thread Martin Bochnig
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/22/sun_schwartz_signoff/ I always knew (after 2006 at least) that JS is a God-damn *TRAITOR*. Many were blended by his fluff. But now you have it black on white, on Video, on Audio-tape. ¨Upon change in control, every employee needs to emotionally resign fro

Re: [osol-discuss] libpciaccess problem (sparc)

2009-12-31 Thread Martin Bochnig
)))_.:*~*:._.:*~*:. .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. Cheers, %martin On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:48 PM, jf simon wrote: > hi > > As already reported by Martin Bochnig a while back, i too am > having problem with libpciaccess on Sparc. > > it seems tha

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b129: can't boot from SATA

2009-12-29 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Martin Bochnig wrote: > hi, > > is SUNWefc (or equivalent) installed? Or SUNWckr? One or both of those packages seem to be missing on your config. > rgds. > %mab > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:56 PM, jf simon wrote: >> h

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b129: can't boot from SATA

2009-12-29 Thread Martin Bochnig
hi, is SUNWefc (or equivalent) installed? rgds. %mab On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:56 PM, jf simon wrote: > hi > > i have installed opensolaris sxce b129 on my system (ultraSparc > T2). the install from DVD to sata disk went well. but upon reboot > from the SATA disk,  i get the following panic

Re: [osol-discuss] [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, leg

2009-11-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Martin Bochnig wrote: >> If Alan tells me what he can open src (in his spare time, as soon as >> he might have some), > > I released the source to Xsun's /usr/openwin/server/lib/libserverdga.so.1 > this week,

Re: [osol-discuss] [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, leg

2009-11-13 Thread Martin Bochnig
ng these things, as part of the project proposed last week. > -- > %martin bochnig > ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, leg

2009-11-13 Thread Martin Bochnig
Err, for the record: On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Martin Bochnig wrote: > Our old dream of a Xsun vs. Xorg ddx module bridge died the moment, > when Alan once shared some information with us, back in fall 2007. > Plus when he gave us sunInit.c (or how the file was called).

Re: [osol-discuss] [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, leg

2009-11-13 Thread Martin Bochnig
+NOCLOCKPROBE 259 + 260 + I still don't understand, why you wrote all this. Best regards, %martin bochnig On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > ken mays wrote: >> We can easily use the newer XVR boards like the XVR-300 to replace many >> o

Re: [osol-discuss] [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, leg

2009-11-12 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:34 AM, ken mays wrote: > > As for the future, we have already spoke of running XSun legacy drivers in > Xorg space. Also, porting working accelerated drivers to OpenSolaris. > > So, we don't need the full XSun, CDE, OpenWin consolidations on SPARC for > the future redist

Re: [osol-discuss] XSun emancipation project proposal (Was: Re: [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, legacy graphic cards)

2009-11-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Mark Martin wrote: > Mauro M. wrote: Emancipation sounds inappropriate as its meaning is >>> >>> about "freeing people from oppression and slavery", >>> Xsun is a software component, not a person and it >>> isn't really "oppressed". >>> >> >> >>> >>>

Re: [osol-discuss] XSun emancipation project proposal (Was: Re: [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, legacy graphic cards)

2009-11-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Mauro M. wrote: >> > Emancipation sounds inappropriate as its meaning is >> about "freeing people from oppression and slavery", >> Xsun is a software component, not a person and it >> isn't really "oppressed". > >> Firstly, the term "emancipation" hits the nail on

Re: [osol-discuss] XSun emancipation project proposal (Was: Re: [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, legacy graphic cards)

2009-11-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Mauro M. wrote: >> >> = *XSun emancipation***Project = >> >> Name >> *XSun emancipation* > > Thank you Mark for doing this. Only I would suggest "Open Xsun" for the > project name. > > Emancipation sounds inappropriate as its meaning is about "freeing peop

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