Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2008-01-26 Thread Mohan Chandrashekar
In the last 4 years of using SAM-FS/QFS I have fallen in love with this product. I have tried earlier to ask Sun to incorporate features into this product but in vain. Do you think the following is worth exploring and in-corporating: 1. Unlike ZFS SAM-FS/QFS File system need compression

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2008-01-26 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Mohan Chandrashekar wrote: Please let me know how I can contribute to this project. Have you tried joining the mailing list shown on their project page at http://opensolaris.org/os/project/samqfs/ and asking there? -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems,

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2008-01-26 Thread Brian Gupta
Alan, I can't find this list here: http://opensolaris.org/os/discussions/ Is this because it isn't integrated with the website? Thanks, Brian On Jan 26, 2008 1:36 PM, Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mohan Chandrashekar wrote: Please let me know how I can contribute to this

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2008-01-26 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Brian Gupta wrote: Alan, I can't find this list here: http://opensolaris.org/os/discussions/ Is this because it isn't integrated with the website? Looks like they have a mailing list, but not a web (jive) forum. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-07-13 Thread Manoj Joseph
Tom Haynes wrote: Holger Berger wrote: Ted, when will this project go public? Holger It just did this week, no? http://opensolaris.org/os/project/samqfs/ Hmm... The link on the storage community page says http://opensolaris.org/os/project/sam-qfs/ This is wrong. Could it be

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-06-15 Thread Holger Berger
On 4/24/07, Ted Pogue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Project Overview: I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. These data services

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-06-15 Thread Tom Haynes
Holger Berger wrote: Ted, when will this project go public? Holger It just did this week, no? http://opensolaris.org/os/project/samqfs/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-26 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 05:25:54PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or move your star tool, which is frankly not nearly as important and useful a tool, perhaps. I would encourage you to inform yourself about star. It will be your favorite tar program

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-26 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would encourage you to inform yourself about star. It will be your favorite tar program after you discovered all the features ;-) Oh, it's a good tar, don't get me wrong :) However, the measure of its successful integration into {Open,}Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-26 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 03:22:27PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would encourage you to inform yourself about star. It will be your favorite tar program after you discovered all the features ;-) Oh, it's a good tar, don't get me wrong :)

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-25 Thread Ted Pogue
Joerg, The SAM commands came out of former LSC, inc. I can't comment on what was considered in the naming of them. I have been with the product in one form or another since 1998 and these SAM commands existed then, probably since 94 or 95. They are included in /opt/SUNWsamfs/sbin and bin.

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-25 Thread Ceri Davies
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 12:01:08PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Tom Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While doing this is a really good idea, I see potential name conflicts with older softare. Since 20..25 years, I create and publish programs like: smake, star, sformat,

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-25 Thread James Carlson
Joerg Schilling writes: - Which programs from SAM FS have name clashes? - What do you intend to do in order to solve the problem I'm confused. Are we discussing whether the proposal to create a project for SAM-QFS is an appropriate and well-defined OpenSolaris project, or are we

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-25 Thread Ceri Davies
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 02:57:09PM -0500, Ted Pogue wrote: Project Overview: I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS.

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-25 Thread Brian Gupta
I did research about 5 years ago regarding HSM file systems. QFS/SAMFS was a leading contender in that space. It also had the added benefit of having a truly massive ability to scale. (We ended up going with another product, because our first choice of optical jukeboxes was not supported.) This

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ted Pogue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg, The SAM commands came out of former LSC, inc. I can't comment on what was considered in the naming of them. I have been with the product in one form or another since 1998 and these SAM commands existed then, probably since 94 or 95. They are

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-25 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Joerg Schilling wrote: Ted Pogue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg, The SAM commands came out of former LSC, inc. I can't comment on what was considered in the naming of them. I have been with the product in one form or another since 1998 and these SAM commands existed

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Frank Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: commands existed then, probably since 94 or 95. They are included in /opt/SUNWsamfs/sbin and bin. Ted Thank you for the information! This means that a normal Solaris user will not be confused but a user that did install /opt/SUNWsamfs may be

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or move your star tool, which is frankly not nearly as important and useful a tool, perhaps. I would encourage you to inform yourself about star. It will be your favorite tar program after you discovered all the features ;-)

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling writes: - Which programs from SAM FS have name clashes? - What do you intend to do in order to solve the problem I'm confused. Are we discussing whether the proposal to create a project for SAM-QFS is an appropriate and

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-25 Thread James Carlson
Joerg Schilling writes: James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling writes: - Which programs from SAM FS have name clashes? - What do you intend to do in order to solve the problem I'm confused. Are we discussing whether the proposal to create a project for SAM-QFS

Re: defunct communities (was: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS)

2007-04-25 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Alan DuBoff wrote: On Tue, 24 Apr 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Except that the Device Driver community is defunct, having no contributors nor core contributors able to participate in community decision making, and as noted, it's really a better fit for Storage or the proposed File Systems

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, as there have been other things that have been forgotten in this area, I now point people to potential conflicts as early as possible ;-) Once the methods for aproving projects and architectural reviews are known to work without problems,

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-25 Thread Stephen Lau
Joerg Schilling wrote: James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, as there have been other things that have been forgotten in this area, I now point people to potential conflicts as early as possible ;-) Once the methods for aproving projects and architectural reviews are known to work

Re: defunct communities (was: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS)

2007-04-25 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Stephen Hahn sent repeated mails to each community over a 6 month+ period. Really, I don't remember seeing them, I wonder if they were sent to device-driver-interest or where? I'll look back and see if I missed those, but don't remember any, this

[osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-24 Thread Ted Pogue
Project Overview: I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. These data services exist today and are distributed commercially by

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-24 Thread Roland Mainz
Ted Pogue wrote: Project Overview: I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. These data services exist today and are

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-24 Thread James Carlson
Ted Pogue writes: I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. These data Wow! +1 from me. -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-24 Thread Don Traub
EXCELLENT! +1! -dt Ted Pogue wrote On 04/24/07 13:57,: Project Overview: I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. These data

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ted Pogue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Project Overview: I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. These data services exist

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-24 Thread Tom Haynes
Joerg Schilling wrote: Ted Pogue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Project Overview: I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. These

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-24 Thread Joerg Schilling
Tom Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering these are currently unbundled and shipping products, that might be hard. I.e., would you want to tell customers that they need to learn new commands, change all of their scripts, etc? Does this mean that my fears are correct? Consdering the

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-24 Thread Holger Berger
On 4/24/07, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted Pogue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Project Overview: I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive Manager or SAM and the Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-24 Thread Holger Berger
On 4/24/07, Tom Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: Ted Pogue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Project Overview: I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive Manager or

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-24 Thread Holger Berger
On 4/24/07, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering these are currently unbundled and shipping products, that might be hard. I.e., would you want to tell customers that they need to learn new commands, change all of their scripts, etc? Does

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-24 Thread Holger Berger
On 4/24/07, Ted Pogue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Project Overview: I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. These data services

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-24 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Ted Pogue wrote: I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. The project proposal draft being considered by the OGB right now would

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-24 Thread Tom Haynes
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Ted Pogue wrote: I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. The project proposal draft being considered by the

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-24 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Ted Pogue wrote: I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. The project proposal draft

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-24 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Alan DuBoff wrote: What if you just make it a condition that Ted needs to get the affiliation? Tom Haynes said this has happened, so I'm satisfied. If it's just a formality that Ted didn't get an affiliation from an existing community, I would affiliate with the Device Driver community,

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-24 Thread Ted Pogue
All, I can affiliate with the storage community until an FS community exists if that works for everyone. Oversight on my part not to have included this as part of the proposal. Thanks for the feedback, Ted Alan Coopersmith wrote: Alan DuBoff wrote: What if you just make it a condition that

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: SAM-QFS

2007-04-24 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Except that the Device Driver community is defunct, having no contributors nor core contributors able to participate in community decision making, and as noted, it's really a better fit for Storage or the proposed File Systems community than Device