On May 30, 2006, at 3:27 PM, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
Given SUN's payment of $200million to SCO (for not alot of stuff
IMHO), the reliability of SUN as a Linux partner comes into
question - slam Linux, then provide middleware for it.
Do you mind not spreading absolute FUD? Do you have any
Kaiwai Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is a lot more Linux specific on GNOME.
THe most important task we have with OpenSolaris is to convince people
that
trying to compile on Solaris is a must for every OpenSource project.
For this reason, it is important to better advertize
Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
yep. And lets be real here, it is much easier for us to fix GCC compiler
to work properly on OpenSolaris than to fix or change mentality of those
lazy programmers...
Studio 11 seems to implement enough GCC bugs to allow to compile most free
software that
Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 19:28 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If it breaks CD/DVD writing (as it does on Linux) I would not call it
cool.
Not sure what you are talking about. HAL is an abstraction layer.
On 5/31/06, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kaiwai Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a lot more Linux specific on GNOME. THe most important task we have with OpenSolaris is to convince people
that trying to compile on Solaris is a must for every OpenSource project. For
Given SUN's payment of $200million to SCO (for not alot of stuff IMHO), the
reliability of SUN as a Linux partner comes into question - slam Linux,
then provide middleware for it.
how do you know what sun paid sco for?
If SUN wishes to get the OSS world to start using Studio 11 as the
On 5/31/06, Ignacio Marambio Catán [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Given SUN's payment of $200million to SCO (for not alot of stuff IMHO), the reliability of SUN as a Linux partner comes into question - slam Linux, then provide middleware for it.
how do you know what sun paid sco for?IIRC, a Sun
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
On 5/31/06, *Ignacio Marambio Catán* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Given SUN's payment of $200million to SCO (for not alot of stuff
IMHO), the
reliability of SUN as a Linux partner comes into question -
slam Linux,
then
On 5/31/06, Kaiwai Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5/31/06, Ignacio Marambio Catán [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Given SUN's payment of $200million to SCO (for not alot of stuff IMHO),
the
reliability of SUN as a Linux partner comes into question - slam
Linux,
then provide middleware for
Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
right time to do it now.
Given SUN's payment of $200million to SCO (for not alot of stuff
IMHO), the reliability of SUN as a Linux partner comes into
question - slam Linux, then provide middleware for it.
So, approximately 10 years ago when SUN purchased a
If you want to see software for Solaris x86/x64 you
should consider
having a look to NexentaOS http://www.gnusolaris.org
Erast and Alex are
working really hard to build all software using GCC.
9000+ packages
now...
And while Nexenta is a nice publicity stunt for OpenSolaris, if I wanted to
From this
stand point, GCC-like and GNU-like environments are
must to have and we
are moving this road... aka NexentaOS
GNU/OpenSolaris.
I just happen to be working on porting a GCC written application to Sun Studio
11. And all I can say is, GCC is one of the worst, brain dead compilers in
On 5/29/06, UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From this stand point, GCC-like and GNU-like environments are must to have and we are moving this road... aka NexentaOS GNU/OpenSolaris.I
just happen to be working on porting a GCC written application to Sun
Studio 11.And all I can say is, GCC is
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 00:28 -0700, UNIX admin wrote:
If you want to see software for Solaris x86/x64 you
should consider
having a look to NexentaOS http://www.gnusolaris.org
Erast and Alex are
working really hard to build all software using GCC.
9000+ packages
now...
And while
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 00:40 -0700, UNIX admin wrote:
From this
stand point, GCC-like and GNU-like environments are
must to have and we
are moving this road... aka NexentaOS
GNU/OpenSolaris.
I just happen to be working on porting a GCC written application to Sun
Studio 11. And all I
Kaiwai Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, I think the thing worse than that, are those who develop applications as
if the whole world revolved around Linux - take the gnome-cd application,
its link to a linux cdrom.h header - now wouldn't it be smarter to create an
abstraction layer
Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
btw, do you know by any chance how to say Sun C compiler to always
respect inlines statements? I tried different switches, never worked for
me...
You are trying to get non-POSIX behavior.
POSIX allows to always iognore the inline keyword.
Jörg
--
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 17:55 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
btw, do you know by any chance how to say Sun C compiler to always
respect inlines statements? I tried different switches, never worked for
me...
You are trying to get non-POSIX behavior.
On Mon, 29 May 2006, UNIX admin wrote:
The point should be not to keep PORTING Linux software to Solaris,
but to start using Solaris as THE main development platform for open
source software (and freeware).
I agree that the latter is the ultimate goal, but the former would be a
good starting
On Mon, 29 May 2006, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
No, I think the thing worse than that, are those who develop applications as
if the whole world revolved around Linux - take the gnome-cd application,
Agreed!
--
Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, OpenSolaris CAB member
President,
Rite Online Inc.
Voice: +1
On Mon, 29 May 2006, Laszlo (Laca) Peter wrote:
It's called HAL (hardware abstraction layer) and it will land in
nevada shortly.
All goodness, provided HAL doesn't go nuts and starts killing its
users. If my computer starts singing Daisy, Daisy when it boots,
I'm yanking the power cord! :-)
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:34 -0400, Laszlo (Laca) Peter wrote:
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 20:50 +1200, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
No, I think the thing worse than that, are those who develop
applications as if the whole world revolved around Linux - take the
gnome-cd application, its link to a linux
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 09:36 -0700, Rich Teer wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2006, UNIX admin wrote:
The point should be not to keep PORTING Linux software to Solaris,
but to start using Solaris as THE main development platform for open
source software (and freeware).
I agree that the latter is
On 5/29/06, Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I'm asking how to make Sun C compiler do what I want?
The compiler is doing what you want, within the limits of it being
explicitly allowed to ignore what you want. :-)
--Stefan
--
Stefan Teleman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:51 -0400, Stefan Teleman wrote:
On 5/29/06, Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I'm asking how to make Sun C compiler do what I want?
The compiler is doing what you want, within the limits of it being
explicitly allowed to ignore what you want. :-)
OK. Than
Laszlo (Laca) Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 20:50 +1200, Kaiwai Gardiner wrote:
No, I think the thing worse than that, are those who develop
applications as if the whole world revolved around Linux - take the
gnome-cd application, its link to a linux cdrom.h header -
Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's called HAL (hardware abstraction layer) and it will land in
nevada shortly.
..and committed to upstream CVS. this would be cool. Here is the
original proposal:
http://opensolaris.org/os/project/tamarack/proposal.txt which developers
seems to be
On 5/29/06, Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:51 -0400, Stefan Teleman wrote:
On 5/29/06, Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I'm asking how to make Sun C compiler do what I want?
The compiler is doing what you want, within the limits of it being
Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 12:51 -0400, Stefan Teleman wrote:
On 5/29/06, Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I'm asking how to make Sun C compiler do what I want?
The compiler is doing what you want, within the limits of it being
explicitly
On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 19:15 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's called HAL (hardware abstraction layer) and it will land in
nevada shortly.
..and committed to upstream CVS. this would be cool. Here is the
original proposal:
Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If it breaks CD/DVD writing (as it does on Linux) I would not call it cool.
Not sure what you are talking about. HAL is an abstraction layer. It
doesn't re-implements anything.
On Linux there is a program called hald, this program frequently sends
On 5/30/06, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kaiwai Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I think the thing worse than that, are those who develop applications as if the whole world revolved around Linux - take the gnome-cd application,
its link to a linux cdrom.h header - now wouldn't it
Kaiwai others,
I'll state that porting/migrating Microsoft-related
software to Solaris is pre-Y2000 idealogy. A statement
I made earlier mentions 'software maintenance' which
is the inherit flaw in this venture.
Can you imagine maintaining all of that software
you've just ported/migrated??
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