a b wrote:
Even if there is no VC money and some people will have to, hum, share an
apartment?
Why not? Remember also, VC capital is a U.S. specific thing. In Europe, if you
want a startup, you fund that thing out of your own pocket.
Off topic perhaps, but they have VC's in Britain as well
Even if there is no VC money and some people will have to, hum, share an
apartment?
Why not? Remember also, VC capital is a U.S. specific thing. In Europe, if you
want a startup, you fund that thing out of your own pocket.
Even if there is VC capital available, people here don't go for it,
Let me tell you a true story:
Replace Solaris guy with debian guy in a Redhat shop.
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--- UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let me tell you a true story:
A Solaris guy will never join a rogue Linux startup. First of all,
the developers will consider him to be obsolete - simply
WORTHLESS. No, lower than worthless.
Sad story. But let's say the developers of the idea are
--- a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sad story. But let's say the developers of the idea are
python+framework+ui+graphics people, and they are os agnostic,
and
one of them says: we should get solaris because it'll scale, and
if
we can bring in Joe the Solaris Guru at founding and give
Sad story. But let's say the developers of the idea are
python+framework+ui+graphics people, and they are os agnostic, and
one of them says: we should get solaris because it'll scale, and if
we can bring in Joe the Solaris Guru at founding and give him shares
and make him Director of OS
--- Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Let me tell you a true story:
Replace Solaris guy with debian guy in a Redhat
shop.
I meant there is a another true story like this only
with a debian guy in a redhat shop.
Send instant messages to your online friends
--- Eric Boutilier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The design and planning of this (an OpenSolaris reference distro)
_is_
going to be an OpenSolaris Community-governed thing, not a
Sun-governed
thing, right?
Maybe Sun got tired of waiting for the Community?
Chris Mahan
818.943.1850 cell
[EMAIL
On 5/17/07, James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ian Murdock writes:
On 5/17/07, Richard L. Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Until an open collaboration of developers achieves the same
documented process as industry or formal membership based bodies
(ECMA, IEEE) or national (ANSI) or
Sure, IBM may be not be innovating with AIX, as we speak, they've
certainly done so in the past, and it would be a shame to ignore that.
Solaris has gone through its dark times, as well, when AIX was considered
innovative (consider, Solaris 8 v. AIX 4.3.3 or Solaris 9 v. AIX 5.2,
Ian Murdock writes:
On 5/17/07, James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't see how that's relevant for the question at hand, which I
believe was the importance of POSIX, SUS, and similar OS standards for
modern systems (or the lack thereof).
It's all interfaces at the end of the day,
On 5/21/07, UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No CIO in the
world said, I've gotta get me some Linux!, or at
least in the late
1990s when Linux was taking off. He woke up one day
and realized Linux
was already everywhere.
Actually the reality is that he was told some day that Linux has
Do you have a HP-UX-11.x system?
Yes, I do.
Well, there is AIX but I am not sure whether IBM takes it for real
and I know of no hacker who is using AIX as development platform.
I wanted to get AIX, but when I looked even at an outdated 32-bit
rack-mountable AIX PPC system, the prices of
a b wrote:
I wanted to get AIX, but when I looked even at an outdated 32-bit rack-mountable AIX
PPC system, the prices of the hardware were so high I just said - forget it! And the fact that one
can't get AIX readily makes things even worse. Perhaps it is possible to obtain AIX gratis, but it
Alan DuBoff wrote:
On Fri, 18 May 2007, Jim Grisanzio wrote:
Sun is actually a massive a minority in the community at this point.
There are 51,179 people registered on the site right now, and only
about 2,000 of those have Sun badges.
So, where are all those other people? I don't see them
Doug Scott schrieb:
The patch for df.c below checks to see if stdout is a tty (i.e.
interactive), and will add
the -h option if no other options conflict. If stdout is not a tty (i.e.
a script), the df command
is unchanged. Is there anything wrong with this idea??
Why does everyone like
a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you have a HP-UX-11.x system?
Yes, I do.
Well, there is AIX but I am not sure whether IBM takes it for real
and I know of no hacker who is using AIX as development platform.
I wanted to get AIX, but when I looked even at an outdated 32-bit
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
It probably shouldn't be the default, but I can't really tell what this
means:
131996712968156 9652530272 1%
quick, how much space is that?
Enough free.
With the -h option the width of the filesystem size is roughly the same -
regardless if the
FreeBSD's utilities in contrast check for the largest required width and
adjusts output accordingly:
-rwsr-s--x 1 oracle dba 133894000 Mai 29 2006 oracle*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 oracle dba1339524 Mai 19 2006 oratclsh*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 oracle dba 48 Sep 25 2000 oraxml*
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
FreeBSD's utilities in contrast check for the largest required width and
adjusts output accordingly:
-rwsr-s--x 1 oracle dba 133894000 Mai 29 2006 oracle*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 oracle dba1339524 Mai 19 2006 oratclsh*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 oracle dba
Daniel Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If df had a similar output, I'd prefer this:
83886083041200 534740837%
335544321605719 31794110 5%
62914560 37766679 1412994873%
62914560 11017932 1412994844%
Compared to other marketing activities from Sun,
this would be cheap and the
current idea of project Indiana looks to me like
a Sun OpenSolaris
distribution that (if done the way it currently
seems) will most likely embrace
and crush the sensitive plants that are the real
free grown
Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Compared to other marketing activities from Sun,
this would be cheap and the
current idea of project Indiana looks to me like
a Sun OpenSolaris
distribution that (if done the way it currently
seems) will most likely embrace
Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Compared to other marketing activities from Sun,
this would be cheap and the
current idea of project Indiana looks to me like
a Sun OpenSolaris
distribution that (if done the way it currently
seems) will most likely embrace
--- Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Compared to other marketing activities from Sun,
this would be cheap and the
current idea of project Indiana looks to me
like
a Sun OpenSolaris
distribution that (if done
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FreeBSD's utilities in contrast check for the largest required width and
adjusts output accordingly:
-rwsr-s--x 1 oracle dba 133894000 Mai 29 2006 oracle*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 oracle dba1339524 Mai 19 2006 oratclsh*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 oracle dba
Hugh McIntyre schrieb:
You can use (n)awk in the case above. For example, what happens with
cut in the case above if a future project allows usernames 8
characters? But granted that some people will have scripts that use
cut, so it's hard to change.
Compatible formatting if stdout is not a
On 19/05/07, Daniel Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hugh McIntyre schrieb:
You can use (n)awk in the case above. For example, what happens with
cut in the case above if a future project allows usernames 8
characters? But granted that some people will have scripts that use
cut, so it's hard
Shawn Walker wrote:
On 19/05/07, Daniel Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hugh McIntyre schrieb:
You can use (n)awk in the case above. For example, what happens with
cut in the case above if a future project allows usernames 8
characters? But granted that some people will have scripts that use
On 19/05/07, Doug Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn Walker wrote:
On 19/05/07, Daniel Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hugh McIntyre schrieb:
You can use (n)awk in the case above. For example, what happens with
cut in the case above if a future project allows usernames 8
characters?
Shawn Walker schrieb:
On 19/05/07, Daniel Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Compatible formatting if stdout is not a terminal.
Optimized formatting if stdout is a terminal.
Which would be really annoying to me as a user.
I would go to look at the output, think I'll just pipe that to such
and
On 19/05/07, Daniel Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn Walker schrieb:
On 19/05/07, Daniel Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Compatible formatting if stdout is not a terminal.
Optimized formatting if stdout is a terminal.
Which would be really annoying to me as a user.
I would go to look at
Shawn Walker schrieb:
As I said before, the point is that it is unexpected behaviour.
Do you count the number of columns in an interactive context?
Unless the man page for the utility explicitly lists the behaviour in
question, it is undesireable in my view. Even then, I have misgivings
--- Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote:
And I don't see th package tools determining
distribution models.
Blastwave have a different distribution model
from
Sun and they
use standard Solaris packages just fine.
Can you store dependency
UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HP-UX? Now that's a joke. hp being the braindead company they are, first
killed off DECUnix (pardon, Tru64), and they haven't really done much of
anything other than some minimal catching up, all while grinding their teeth,
on HP-UX.
I should know,
Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote:
And I don't see th package tools determining
distribution models.
Blastwave have a different distribution model from
Sun and they
use standard Solaris packages just fine.
Can you store dependency data in Solaris packages?
Yes, you have been able to store
On 5/18/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The whole development model is because there is no
other way to do it since the packaging tools will not
allow anything else. There is no choice but to create
the patch system. Likewise the distribution model.
That's simply not
--- Richard L. Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry about that mess...here's another try.
The initial area of confusion hits with the
distinction between packages and patches -- I know
there's a difference between releasing
functionality and fixing something that's
broken. That's
And the patches give you one thing by default that
wholesale package
replacement does not: the option to back them out.
You can also roll back on a package system.
A lot of this isn't unique to Solaris; I think a
number of other (mostly
non-Linux) commercially distributed OSs distinguish
And I don't see th package tools determining
distribution models.
Blastwave have a different distribution model from
Sun and they
use standard Solaris packages just fine.
Can you store dependency data in Solaris packages?
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Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And I don't see th package tools determining
distribution models.
Blastwave have a different distribution model from
Sun and they
use standard Solaris packages just fine.
Can you store dependency data in Solaris packages?
This has
On 18/05/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Richard L. Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry about that mess...here's another try.
The initial area of confusion hits with the
distinction between packages and patches -- I know
there's a difference between
On Fri, 18 May 2007, Jim Grisanzio wrote:
Sun is actually a massive a minority in the community at this point.
There are 51,179 people registered on the site right now, and only about
2,000 of those have Sun badges.
So, where are all those other people? I don't see them participating on
the
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 03:08:22PM +0700, Doug Scott wrote:
The patch for df.c below checks to see if stdout is a tty (i.e. interactive),
and will add
the -h option if no other options conflict. If stdout is not a tty (i.e. a
script), the df command
is unchanged. Is there anything wrong
Andre van Eyssen wrote:
It's a dose of hell for anyone learning to write scripts.
I don't believe we need an envariable to enable this for several
reasons:
A) envariables don't scale - they are per-user,
per-system, per-problem band-aids. Over time
and over systems, this path leads to
John Plocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andre van Eyssen wrote:
It's a dose of hell for anyone learning to write scripts.
I don't believe we need an envariable to enable this for several
reasons:
A) envariables don't scale - they are per-user,
per-system, per-problem band-aids. Over
Doug Scott schrieb:
The patch for df.c below checks to see if stdout is a tty (i.e.
interactive), and will add
the -h option if no other options conflict. If stdout is not a tty (i.e.
a script), the df command
is unchanged. Is there anything wrong with this idea??
Why does everyone like the
Danek Duvall wrote:
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 03:08:22PM +0700, Doug Scott wrote:
The patch for df.c below checks to see if stdout is a tty (i.e. interactive),
and will add
the -h option if no other options conflict. If stdout is not a tty (i.e. a
script), the df command
is unchanged. Is
--- Richard L. Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IMHO, the Open Solaris community needs more than
just
programmers.
Sure, but if someone that does documentation or
marketing can
code at least to the extent of the bite-size
stuff, can in the
former case read code without the need of
Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
Another crazy idea would be to make utilities
sensitive to a certain
environment variable that defines the default
flavor. It doesn't work
out of the box exactly, but it could be made almost
OOB if the choice of
flavor is
Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
I chose to use words that are deliberately
provocative, and engender
some of the fears of agile methodology. Agile methods
do emphasize
real time communication, over written documents.
Agile methods also
emphasize working software as the measure of
progress, and
On Thu, 17 May 2007, Doug Scott wrote:
The patch for df.c below checks to see if stdout is a tty (i.e. interactive),
and will add
the -h option if no other options conflict. If stdout is not a tty (i.e. a
script), the df command
is unchanged. Is there anything wrong with this idea??
It's a
Andre van Eyssen wrote:
On Thu, 17 May 2007, Doug Scott wrote:
The patch for df.c below checks to see if stdout is a tty (i.e.
interactive), and will add
the -h option if no other options conflict. If stdout is not a tty
(i.e. a script), the df command
is unchanged. Is there anything wrong
On 5/16/07, Frank Van Der Linden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can't do that with zones as they stand now. There's a whole list of
things you can't do in a non-global zone. So you'd have to pick one
environment for the global zone (which can do everything you want), and
then one for another zone
On 5/17/07, Richard L. Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One thing to think about is how standards have
changed.. It's no
longer big vendors in a room deciding what the
standard is (i.e.,
the top down approach). It's more the developers
(largely in open
source projects) deciding what the
Ian Murdock writes:
On 5/17/07, Richard L. Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Until an open collaboration of developers achieves the same
documented process as industry or formal membership based bodies
(ECMA, IEEE) or national (ANSI) or international standards bodies (ISO),
_and_ there is
So, who exactly is left, other than Solaris, in the UNIX arena?
IBM?, AIX Micro, Dyanmic, and VIO Partitions are kinda neat and they are
supported on their big database servers as opposed to Sun Logical Domains.
Granted this is mostly a firmware/hardware hack, but hey we need some other
Ian Murdock wrote:
Well, if that's what you think I've said so far, I haven't done a
very good job of articulating my thoughts. Bottom line is: We have
Zones, so we can provide two environments, one for people who are
perfectly happy with Solaris as it exists today, and another for
people who
Frank Van Der Linden wrote:
Ian Murdock wrote:
[...]
perfectly happy with Solaris as it exists today, and another for
people who are more familiar with the Linux environment. So, the
fact that we don't agree which one is better isn't a showstopper.
[...]environment for first-class citizens and
Moinak Ghosh wrote:
Nexenta has a very nice approach to this problem. You can set an
environment variable to control your userland environment personality.
I believe they have hooks into exec to determine the personality of
the caller and automatically resolve binaries from /usr/sun if
Frank Van Der Linden wrote:
Moinak Ghosh wrote:
Nexenta has a very nice approach to this problem. You can set an
environment variable to control your userland environment personality.
I believe they have hooks into exec to determine the personality of
the caller and automatically
Moinak Ghosh wrote:
Nexenta has a very nice approach to this problem. You can set an
environment variable to control your userland environment personality.
I believe they have hooks into exec to determine the personality of
the caller and automatically resolve binaries from /usr/sun
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why would that not be transparent?
(I'm assuming we're mapping paths in /usr/bin to /usr/sun *inside*
the kernel)
The csh hash table was a bad example, that one should be ok.
However, it's not 100% transparent, since it looks to me like an
application that would
Richard L. Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You know what, I totally disagree with this move:
Don't make Solaris Linux like, BUT teach us Linux
guys the Solaris way. As I read here again and again
the POSIX way - what ever that means, at least I
don't know, and I am sure many young(as
Moinak Ghosh wrote:
Frank Van Der Linden wrote:
Moinak Ghosh wrote:
Nexenta has a very nice approach to this problem. You can set an
environment variable to control your userland environment
personality.
I believe they have hooks into exec to determine the personality of
the caller
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 06:46:39PM -0400, Ian Murdock wrote:
On 5/13/07, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 03:01:32PM -0700, MC wrote:
Two things:
Improvement can only take place with change or supplementation. If
something does not improve, it will be
Doug Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have seen something similar used in the past to get around CPU
instruction set differences. On Sony's (Yes Sony) version of BSD
(possibly others), they were able to use an environment variable within
a symbolic link. It actually worked really well.
Doug Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have seen something similar used in the past to get around CPU
instruction set differences. On Sony's (Yes Sony) version of BSD
(possibly others), they were able to use an environment variable within
a symbolic link. It actually worked really well.
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Frank Van Der Linden wrote:
You can't do that with zones as they stand now. There's a whole list of
things you can't do in a non-global zone.
That is true today, but Xen might change that. We do have branded zones
today which run a Linux personality, but as you point
On 16/05/07, Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Frank Van Der Linden wrote:
You can't do that with zones as they stand now. There's a whole list of
things you can't do in a non-global zone.
That is true today, but Xen might change that. We do have branded zones
today
On 5/13/07, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 03:01:32PM -0700, MC wrote:
Two things:
Improvement can only take place with change or supplementation. If
something does not improve, it will be replaced by superior
alternatives. Sun wants Solaris to be successful,
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 02:52:53AM -0700, Doug Scott wrote:
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 02:35:49AM -0400, Stefan
Teleman wrote:
On Saturday 12 May 2007 17:48, Ceri Davies wrote:
I assume the community reserves its right to
reject Project
Indiana?
Ceri
You do not
On 14/05/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That said, I think the good news for the old guard
is that the largest faults in Solaris can be fixed
by supplementation rather than change. I'm
referring to the GUI. Because whether the old guard
knows it or not, what ls
On 14/05/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote:
--- Gueven Bay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For example a better package manager: Okay. But
build it on top of the pkg_* commands which are
in
Ceri Davies wrote:
I'm not saying that a rejection is justified, please don't assume that.
As you say, we don't even know what the proposal is. All I'm asking is
whether it is possible that the community can be railroaded by Sun into
accepting whatever Sun wish to throw at it.
Allowing the
Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
package management. tools are not open, they have
issues and they are not transparent.
What are you talking about?
Are you talking about this:
http://dlc.sun.com/osol/install/downloads/current/
Jörg
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Ian Murdock wrote:
This is ultimately why I decided the term usability gap was unfair.
Usability is relative. Solaris doesn't seem usable to someone who's been
using Linux for the last 10 years. But then again, I suspect Linux
doesn't
seem usable to someone who's been using Solaris for the
my opinion is very important for luring the Linux community to a far
superior kernel I think, however, that it's missing the point
Agreed. One thing that is often missed, X tool is suitable for the
task at hand. In many cases Linux (and it's kernel) is suited to the
task at hand. In many
--- Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
package management. tools are not open, they have
issues and they are not transparent.
What are you talking about?
Are you talking about this:
On Sun, May 13, 2007 at 10:37:34AM +0100, a b wrote:
Last time I used tcsh there was no way to do redirection properly, and
therefore it sucked. It did everything else brilliantly, but every now
and then I would find myself needing to redirect something and falling
back to another
Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, May 13, 2007 at 10:37:34AM +0100, a b wrote:
Last time I used tcsh there was no way to do redirection properly, and
therefore it sucked. It did everything else brilliantly, but every now
and then I would find myself needing to redirect
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 05:08:01AM -0700, carlos antonio neira bustos wrote:
Im totally against this aproach , why be like that other OS ?? ,for start
being like linux , we need some more bugs and profanity in the source code
...
is enough to say that im horryfied with this news.
Because
I just want to check with other senior people on this. Am I one of the
few that uses /sbin/sh as my default shell ? I quite literally use it
as my default.
You like pain and misery, or what? (:-)
I mean /sbin/sh is the default shell and all, and one shouldn't really change
it, but as an
Last time I used tcsh there was no way to do redirection properly, and
therefore it sucked. It did everything else brilliantly, but every now
and then I would find myself needing to redirect something and falling
back to another shell. So now I use zsh, which is better than all of
the
I apologize. It wasn't warranted. I have just waded through too many
of these recently, and I only sleep three hours last night.
Accepted.
Now let's all plough on to meet the Solaris future, whatever that future might
be - together.
correct, this:
star -copy -p -acl -sparse -C /src/dir/ . /dst/dir/
does a better job and is much faster.
Yes, of course, but I used the `find + cpio` just to demonstrate how to do
redirection of STDOUT and STDERR in tcsh.
It was just a vehicle for the example.
Ceri Davies wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 03:01:32PM -0700, MC wrote:
Two things:
Improvement can only take place with change or supplementation. If
something does not improve, it will be replaced by superior
alternatives. Sun wants Solaris to be successful, so change (or
supplementation)
familiarity. And familiarity for people coming from
Linux is so important
because there are so many of them. It is ultimately
our target market
for Solaris. We need those college kids who are
coming out of university
today who reach for Linux when they start companies
or go to work in
--- Michael Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's painfully obvious that OpenSolaris and Solaris
on x86 platforms lack drivers of all sorts. It also
lacks an easy way to install software reliably. If
making OpenSolaris/Solaris more like Linux can
resolve both these problems then I'm all for it.
That said, I think the good news for the old guard
is that the largest faults in Solaris can be fixed
by supplementation rather than change. I'm
referring to the GUI. Because whether the old guard
knows it or not, what ls does today won't matter in
the future because the new guard won't
--- Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote:
--- Gueven Bay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For example a better package manager: Okay. But
build it on top of the pkg_* commands which are
in
Solaris today AND explain, show and teach the
users
the Solaris
On 5/10/07, John Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Funny you should mention this, but I generally feel that way when I
ssh into the few Linux boxes I administer. Solaris is much more
intuitive for me. But maybe I'm becoming that old fogey I swore I'd
never become...
This is ultimately why I
On 5/10/07, James C. McPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now, as to what Ian is proposing - we'll have to wait and see.
I've heard that he had a really really hectic time at JavaOne
so it could be a little while.
You have no idea.. :-) But I'm here now, as you've probably noticed..
-ian
--
Ian
Ian Murdock wrote:
On 5/10/07, James C. McPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
frank wang wrote:
Sun will keep two universes, 1 is Linux alike, the other Solaris
alike. User can just pick what they like or are familiar with. But it
can't replace the efforts to scale the train coverage on
Did you set up those 500 DB servers?
Yeah, I finally finished them this morning!
You mean, you hacked them all up together,
installing one by one from DVD and modifying each
and every system manually? And the fact that the
work you did is basically crap and you should be
fired for it,
On 12/05/07, Michael Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's painfully obvious that OpenSolaris and Solaris on x86 platforms lack
drivers of all sorts.
I don't think that is an accurate statement. It all depends on the
context in which you make it.
For example, I have at least three systems that I
Ian Murdock wrote:
On 5/10/07, John Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Funny you should mention this, but I generally feel that way when I
ssh into the few Linux boxes I administer. Solaris is much more
intuitive for me. But maybe I'm becoming that old fogey I swore I'd
never become...
This
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 12:35:19PM -0700, UNIX admin wrote:
And usually with Linux. However, Even though I prefer
tcsh, I don't think it's light-years ahead of bash.
I've seen arguments on both sides.
Did you read `tcsh`s man page?
Last time I used tcsh there was no way to do redirection
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 12:35:19PM -0700, UNIX admin wrote:
And usually with Linux. However, Even though I prefer
tcsh, I don't think it's light-years ahead of bash.
I've seen arguments on both sides.
=20
Did you read `tcsh`s man page?
Last time I used tcsh there was no way to do
MC wrote:
Two things:
Can you retain some context please, you message make less sense in
isolation.
Ian
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