[osol-discuss] Re: Is Sun Cluster really a free product now ?

2005-12-07 Thread Richard Elling
> Free, as I understand it, but not yet open-source. I'm no lawyer, but I > read the new license agreement pretty carefully yesterday and it lists > commercial use, personal use, even ratio-based service-provider use. > And it's not just Sun Cluster it's all the N1 stuff, JES, Identity >

[osol-discuss] Re: SunPlex cluster vs. N1 Grid engine

2005-12-07 Thread Richard Elling
> As Sun recently released its entire application > stack, it is now viable to run the enterprise > availability tools right in one's rack at home. Most of these products have been available for free download for education and research use for some time. > There are two products in the aforementi

[osol-discuss] Re: How to communicate wite kernel module?

2005-12-07 Thread nice
I see. Thank you very much! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: SunPlex cluster vs. N1 Grid engine

2005-12-07 Thread Michelle Olson
Hi, I put 'free trial' in quotes for exactly that reason; so that folks don't attach any message to it, but _do_ know what we're talking about. So much for that idea :) Thanks for your interest. Regards, Michelle OpenSolaris Doc Community >DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s

[osol-discuss] Re: Opera 9 also works...

2005-12-07 Thread Erast Benson
Yep, this is what you get when you have stable API at the core and well builded and configured GNU userland. Welcome to Nexenta world! :-) I also cross-posting opensolaris-discuss@, so other folks will look at your screenshots and will see how fast Nexenta OS progressing! Thanks Pedro! On Thu, 2

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: sun4m, why the strong defense against putting it back in for last rel

2005-12-07 Thread ken mays
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> of interest in maintaining them, even Ultra-1 > support for those who > >> feel that they are happy to run the risk of 64 > bit on UltraSPARC-I. > > > >This, to me, would be a far more worthwhile > project.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] build 28 (2005-12-07) available

2005-12-07 Thread Stephen Lau
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 07:29:02PM -0500, Eric Enright wrote: > On 12/7/05, Derek Cicero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Stephen Lau wrote: > > > Whoops. The ReleaseNotes link should be fixed real soon. > > > You can look through the putback logs for build 28 on the Nevada > > > community page to s

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] build 28 (2005-12-07) available

2005-12-07 Thread Eric Enright
On 12/7/05, Derek Cicero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Stephen Lau wrote: > > Whoops. The ReleaseNotes link should be fixed real soon. > > You can look through the putback logs for build 28 on the Nevada > > community page to see if anything changed in power management.. > > This is fixed. Sorry fo

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] build 28 (2005-12-07) available

2005-12-07 Thread ken mays
Things for Community CD/DVD (and OpenSolaris 12/05) review: To: Belenix, Schillix and all other OpenSolaris distros NVIDIA® GeForce™ 6150 and NVIDIA nForce™ 430 - based motherboards from Asus and other OEMs/IHVs 1. You may want to recheck the auto-recognition of Nvidia Geforce cards versus Nvidi

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: sun4m, why the strong defense against putting it back in for last rel

2005-12-07 Thread Bill Bradford
On 12/7/05, Dennis Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can live with that. Even I had to eventually stop pack-rat-collecting any piece of Sun hardware that came my way. I started out then saying "nothing slower than a U1", then now its "nothing goes home unless I actually have a use for it that

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: sun4m, why the strong defense against putting it back in for last rel

2005-12-07 Thread Casper . Dik
>On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> of interest in maintaining them, even Ultra-1 support for those who >> feel that they are happy to run the risk of 64 bit on UltraSPARC-I. > >This, to me, would be a far more worthwhile project. Yes, the US-I >is long in the tooth, but I've neve

[osol-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] build 28 (2005-12-07) available

2005-12-07 Thread Peter Tribble
On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 19:56, Stephen Lau wrote: > Peter Tribble wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 18:12, Stephen Lau wrote: > > > >>Build 28 is now available for download at > >>http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ > >> > >>Please make sure you update your tools (SUNWonbld) package, and please

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] build 28 (2005-12-07) available

2005-12-07 Thread Derek Cicero
Stephen Lau wrote: Peter Tribble wrote: On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 18:12, Stephen Lau wrote: Build 28 is now available for download at http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ Please make sure you update your tools (SUNWonbld) package, and please read the release notes. There are three new kn

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: SunPlex cluster vs. N1 Grid engine

2005-12-07 Thread Scott Spyrison
Michelle Olson wrote: Hi, Glad the pointers were useful--here is one for Solaris Volume Manager (SVM) for Sun Cluster. http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-4520/6manpiehp?a=view It would be the 'free trial' volume management solution instead of QFS. There are plans to integrate ZFS in Sun

[osol-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] build 28 (2005-12-07) available

2005-12-07 Thread Stephen Lau
Peter Tribble wrote: On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 18:12, Stephen Lau wrote: Build 28 is now available for download at http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ Please make sure you update your tools (SUNWonbld) package, and please read the release notes. There are three new known issues for this bu

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: SunPlex cluster vs. N1 Grid engine

2005-12-07 Thread Michelle Olson
Hi, Glad the pointers were useful--here is one for Solaris Volume Manager (SVM) for Sun Cluster. http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-4520/6manpiehp?a=view It would be the 'free trial' volume management solution instead of QFS. There are plans to integrate ZFS in Sun Cluster, but will not be

[osol-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] build 28 (2005-12-07) available

2005-12-07 Thread Peter Tribble
On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 18:12, Stephen Lau wrote: > Build 28 is now available for download at > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/ > > Please make sure you update your tools (SUNWonbld) package, and please > read the release notes. There are three new known issues for this build > concerni

Re: [osol-discuss] Something a little less drastic that 4m,

2005-12-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 12/7/05, James Dickens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > While I can understand why no 4m, What I would like is something a bit > easier, i just want ultraI support, the CPU no the u1 platform. I > would like to use my old Sun ultra 2 motherboard rev 6. To run Solaris > 10. This is just CPU s

[osol-discuss] Something a little less drastic that 4m,

2005-12-07 Thread James Dickens
Hi While I can understand why no 4m, What I would like is something a bit easier, i just want ultraI support, the CPU no the u1 platform. I would like to use my old Sun ultra 2 motherboard rev 6. To run Solaris 10. This is just CPU support, no need to support old hardware like le, Since the u2 pl

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: sun4m, why the strong defense against putting it back in for last rel

2005-12-07 Thread Rich Teer
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > of interest in maintaining them, even Ultra-1 support for those who > feel that they are happy to run the risk of 64 bit on UltraSPARC-I. This, to me, would be a far more worthwhile project. Yes, the US-I is long in the tooth, but I've never encoun

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: sun4m, why the strong defense against putting it back in for last rel

2005-12-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 12/7/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's a resurrection of biblical proportions. > We could wait for the "second coming of Christ" or just accept that I will have my old sun4m hardware around for a while and it will run Solaris 8 for a while. But never 10. I can live w

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Slashdot FUD fighters unite

2005-12-07 Thread UNIX admin
> Well, there is nothing wrong with Linux in its place. > Just so long as > I don't have to trust it long term. Like Windows, it > seems to work > for a while and then it just doesn't anymore. For > unknown reasons > too. Perhaps that is just my experience however. I fail to see how Linux coul

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: sun4m, why the strong defense against putting it back in for last rel

2005-12-07 Thread Casper . Dik
>Secondly, there's the problem of re-integrating, testing, and then >supporting the code. For stale platforms that've fallen off the end >of the service life (ones, incidentally, that can still run existing >old releases just fine and that likely have rings run around them by >cheaper modern hard

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: sun4m, why the strong defense against putting it back in for last rel

2005-12-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 12/7/05, Bill Rushmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Charles Monett wrote: > > > Fine, it might have been dead, and probably (almost) useless, but that > > would be > I think it would be a pointless effort to "port" OpenSolaris to sun4m. > Have you ever tried to run Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: sun4m, why the strong defense against putting it back in for last rel

2005-12-07 Thread James Carlson
Charles Monett writes: > I just dont see the point in stonewalling support unless it was > something earlier than a sun4m- reiterating the question for > purposes of clarity - what would it take to get it back into > something that would result in a usable sun4m OpenSolaris system? > There really c

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Slashdot FUD fighters unite

2005-12-07 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 UNIX admin wrote: > Dennis, those guys are just about as clueless as a Linux-loving geek can get. agreed, such answers generate only more FUD, long ago i decided to ignore them, life eventualy takes care of then and shows them how wrong they are > > T

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Slashdot FUD fighters unite

2005-12-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 12/7/05, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dennis, those guys are just about as clueless as a Linux-loving geek can get. > > They don't have the experience to comprehend what they're being told -- after > all, if they knew anything about anything, they wouldn't be enamoured with > Linux.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: sun4m, why the strong defense against putting it back in for last rel

2005-12-07 Thread Bill Rushmore
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Charles Monett wrote: Fine, it might have been dead, and probably (almost) useless, but that would be enough for some to fill in the blank spaces if they were left on their own for those who'd even want to touch that code outside of Sun- if just for the ability to add in s

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: sun4m, why the strong defense against putting it back in for last rel

2005-12-07 Thread Darren J Moffat
When others have said build 22 they mean of Solaris 10 not Solaris Nevada this was over 3 years ago or in other words thats 84 builds ago (note builds are usually two weeks long but the last builds of Solaris 10 overlapped with the opening builds of Solaris Nevada (ie what became the first parts of

Re: [osol-discuss] How to communicate wite kernel module?

2005-12-07 Thread Darren J Moffat
On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 06:56, nice wrote: > After a kernel module was loaded successfully, how to communicate wite this > kernel module like change the status of the kernel module. > > In Linux, I can use /proc file to do that. But, In solaris, /proc file is > just used for processors. As you no

[osol-discuss] Re: SunPlex cluster vs. N1 Grid engine

2005-12-07 Thread UNIX admin
Thank you very much for the pointers. I've started to study the Clustering documentation in detail. One additional question: will QFS also be available for free? QFS is mentioned quite a bit as the part of the redundant features that make up a HA cluster. However, it appears that either a 60 day

Re: [osol-discuss] sun4m, why the strong defense against putting it back in for last release?

2005-12-07 Thread Casper . Dik
> >Even if the code was pulled early, there's no real reason to drop out >a workable release of code(t hat is, something that would build cleanly >for sun4m, not just raw code known not to work without u nobtainable >tools) for perfectly runnable machines. It'd not be much, but something >based of

[osol-discuss] Re: Slashdot FUD fighters unite

2005-12-07 Thread UNIX admin
Dennis, those guys are just about as clueless as a Linux-loving geek can get. They don't have the experience to comprehend what they're being told -- after all, if they knew anything about anything, they wouldn't be enamoured with Linux. This message posted from opensolaris.org _