Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Deployment of New Code Review Tool on Monday

hi ... I realize parts of the app are not optimal with respect to the previous app, but we had other constraints to consider. We had to build the app this way to meet corporate requirements for security and auditing. Also, users need a specific role (Leader/Developer) and a specific agreement (

[osol-discuss] Deployment of New Code Review Tool on Monday

Hello, We have developed a new code review application and plan to deploy it on Monday June 27 at 3 a.m. PDT. The new application will run over https at https://cr.opensolaris.org, and review uploads will be done via a new web interface. Once the new application is deployed the old mechanism

[osol-discuss] Planned Maintenance for SCM Infrastructure: April 14, 2011

On Thursday April 14 the source code management infrastructure on opensolaris.org will be taken offline for approximately 30 minutes at 3 a.m. PDT for back end system updates. This is the work we had scheduled two weeks ago but postponed due to a system failure. Send questions or issues to website

[osol-discuss] Temporary Outage of SCM

We've had a system go down that we are trying to resolve right now. As a result, the SCM Console and source code repositories are unavailable at the moment. We'll send an announcement when the system is back functioning normally. Jim ___ opensolaris-

[osol-discuss] Planned Maintenance Outage for SCM Infrastructure: March 31, 2011

On Thursday March 31 the source code management infrastructure on opensolaris.org will go offline for about 30 minutes at 3 a.m. PDT for back end system updates. For questions or issues: website-admin AT opensolaris DOT org. For details about past/future work on opensolaris.org see the roadmap

Re: [osol-discuss] Could you unlock my account. Is website-ad...@opensolaris.org available?

On 12/06/10 23:04, hideo-san wrote: Dear jim. Thank you for your grently supports. I could reset my password and login to this discussions. Whenever you are possible, Could you delete hideocha account? Ok, all set. :) Jim ___ opensolaris-discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] Could you unlock my account. Is website-ad...@opensolaris.org available?

On 12/ 3/10 02:18 AM, hideo-san wrote: Dear jim. Thank you for a prompt reply. Unfortunately, there is still a matter. I sent a e-mail to website-admin at opensolaris dot org. So could you read a e-mail ? Thanks. Hi ... I didn't get your mail on website-admin. But you are able to send mai

Re: [osol-discuss] Could you unlock my account. Is website-ad...@opensolaris.org available?

I'll follow up with you, Hideo-san. Jim On 12/02/10 09:26, hideo-san wrote: Hi. Mail is returned again. --- --- : Connected to 192.9.164.97 but connection died. (#4.4.2) I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. Now locked account is hideosan. C

Re: [osol-discuss] [OT] Openindiana mailing list

On 10/21/10 11:50, Harry Putnam wrote: Thank you, but that was understood. As mentioned in my post I hoped to find an openindiana enthusiast here as there are many lurking or posting here. Hoping to get to an openindiana reader who may know what I need to do since I'm rejected from that list as

Re: [osol-discuss] [OT] Openindiana mailing list

On 10/21/10 11:16 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: Sorry for the ot, but hoped to find an openindiana enthusiast who can coach me a bit. Trying to subscribe to openindiana-discuss mailing list at: http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss My request is rejected with: "Your subsc

Re: [osol-discuss] Fwd: [website-discuss] XWiki Update on Monday Oct 4

arting now. Chris Original Message Subject: [website-discuss] XWiki Update on Monday Oct 4 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 00:08:04 +0900 From: Jim Grisanzio To: website-disc...@opensolaris.org, opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Following the updates to auth/repo las

[osol-discuss] XWiki Update on Monday Oct 4

Following the updates to auth/repo last week, we are now ready to update XWiki on Monday Oct 4th starting at 5 a.m. PDT. XWiki will be down for approximately 1/2 hour. In this deployment XWiki will have a new lightweight skin, which has better organization for layout and page editing. Additiona

Re: [osol-discuss] The last of the 5000?

John Plocher wrote: Since it seams the website team is effectively gone The website team is intact. You can find us on website-discuss for general issues and website-admin for user account issues. Other info here: Roadmap: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Main/roadmap Guidelines: http://

Re: [osol-discuss] Will this forum shut down?

Alan Coopersmith wrote: Peter Jones wrote: Is the forum controlled by Oracle or independent? The opensolaris.org website is owned and operated by Oracle. Website Guidelines with pointers to other site info here: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Main/site_guidelines Jim ___

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Unacceptable language

On 7/13/2010 2:54 AM, Alan Burlison wrote: On 12/07/2010 18:41, Garrett D'Amore wrote: Btw, I'm not sure, do we actually have a written policy forbidding profanity? On the one hand, it seems clear that the message in question that started this activity was both unduly hostile and unduly vulga

Re: [osol-discuss] warning about mail on this list

On 7/12/2010 6:07 AM, Alan Burlison wrote: On 11/07/2010 16:16, Svein Skogen wrote: Now, since I'm so certain you will handle criticism about your one-sidedness in moderation, let me use this chance to say "good bye" to the mailinglists. Just remember to remove me from those, not just block ji

[osol-discuss] warning about mail on this list

Recently there has been mail on this list that violates the website Terms of Use. Individuals are being warned. However, if this trend continues the Website Team is prepared to take action up to and including moderation and/or deactivation of the list. Please do not respond to hostile posts bec

[osol-discuss] Contributing to OpenSolaris

hey ... I'm updating the Participation page by adding context and pointers to Communities, Projects, User Groups, and Subsites that have published contribution documents. In other words, if you are taking contributions, we'd like to build out a collection of links so we have one place to send p

Re: [osol-discuss] The Future of OpenSolaris Releases?

Alan Burlison wrote: Gary wrote: I'll ask any question I want, so GFY! Last warning: another mail like that and you'll be removed from the mailing list. And a reminder for everyone, here`s the OpenSolaris Code of Conduct that we are all expected to follow. http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/vi

Re: [osol-discuss] Goodbye Sun.com

W. Wayne Liauh wrote: I hope Oracle will not rebrand OpenSolaris / Solaris look and feel, which tends to be blue/silver to something bright red. It would be just too annoying. Bright red will do very well in the greater China market. Very very well, indeed. Yah, things are a bit red

[osol-discuss] Localizing OpenSolaris Website Content

hey ... If you are interested in contributing localizations to the OpenSolaris website and /also/ to the XWiki community, go to i18n-discuss and participate in the discussion: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/i18n-discuss/2009-December/002957.html http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] opensolaris.org services available again

Nice job to the whole team. :) Jim Alan Burlison wrote: The migration to the new opensolaris.org authentication system is complete and all sites are available again. The first time you log in to opensolaris.org you will be taken to the new authentication system to revalidate your account det

Re: [osol-discuss] Unendorsed Projects: Need Community <-> Project Mappings

Alan Coopersmith wrote: Jim Grisanzio wrote: When was your Project set up? And on what list was it approved? Projects are proposed/discussed/approved on Community Group lists first, Except for those a few really old ones created before the first OGB election, since originally

Re: [osol-discuss] Unendorsed Projects: Need Community <-> Project Mappings

Cyril Plisko wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Jim Grisanzio wrote: When was your Project set up? And on what list was it approved? Projects are proposed/discussed/approved on Community Group lists first, and then Facilitators or Leaders send the approvals to project-setup to be

Re: [osol-discuss] Unendorsed Projects: Need Community <-> Project Mappings

Che Kristo wrote: However a simple look at the project page says it is sponsored by the software porters community: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/sw-porters/ Ok, cool. Thanks. Someone must have mapped it today. On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Che Kristo > w

Re: [osol-discuss] Unendorsed Projects: Need Community <-> Project Mappings

On 06/18/09 18:04, Joerg Schilling wrote: I cannot see any "community" as listed on the "community page" that may be related. Star is from the category "backup and archiving" and I cannot find anything related on: http://opensolaris.org/os/communities/#portal When was your Project set up? An

Re: [osol-discuss] Unendorsed Projects: Need Community <-> Project Mappings

Joerg Schilling wrote: Jim Grisanzio wrote: hey ... As part of the website transition [1] we need to complete the Community <-> Project endorsement mappings [2]. If you own any of these Projects, please have your Community leaders endorse your Project by clicking on "Endor

[osol-discuss] Unendorsed Projects: Need Community <-> Project Mappings

hey ... As part of the website transition [1] we need to complete the Community <-> Project endorsement mappings [2]. If you own any of these Projects, please have your Community leaders endorse your Project by clicking on "Endorse Projects" in the Community Editor box on the front page of the

[osol-discuss] [Fwd: [osol-announce] Website Transition: Schedule Update]

fyi: note the schedule change below. -- Jim Original Message Subject:[osol-announce] Website Transition: Schedule Update Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:12:27 +0900 From: Jim Grisanzio To: opensolaris-annou...@opensolaris.org Phase 1 of the website transition is

[osol-discuss] jposug saturday session

hey ... pretty cool Saturday session of the JPOSUG today. Nice turn out. Multiple sessions. And a lot of new people to meet. http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/entry/japan_opensolaris_user_group_053009 You know, I`m thinking that it`s time to do a little kernel conference for OpenSolaris, Linux, and

[osol-discuss] OSUGs on FB and other networks

On 05/22/09 07:09, teresa.giacom...@sun.com wrote: Facebook We've created a new group especially for you on Facebook. It's called OpenSolaris User Group Leaders. You can share photos, presentations, videos. Announce events. Collaborate. It's up to you. Please join! If it's easier, se

[osol-discuss] Website Transition: Updated Website Community Content

hey ... As part of the upcoming transition to the new website infrastructure, we updated the content on the Website Community: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/web/ There is an overview of the current site's services with pointers to sources of information, an initial collection of backgroun

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] OpenSolaris TownHall - April 24th 8am-10am PT

Call details: http://wiki.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/OpenSolaris_Townhall_Apr_24_2009 On 04/13/09 01:50, Vincent Murphy wrote: All, It has been a while since the last Town Hall meeting, and a lot has gone on since then. We are planning the next Town Hall meeting for Friday April 24th from 8a

[osol-discuss] New Group Lifecycle Process Coming

hey ... As we consider the new OpenSolaris Constitution [1], I wanted to point out that part of that document points to a group lifecycle procedure [2]. This new procedure will replace the group creation processes outlined in the current Constitution [3] and in the Project Instantiation Polic

[osol-discuss] [Fwd: [osol-announce] OpenSolaris Constitution 2.0 RC1]

fyi ... Original Message Subject:[osol-announce] OpenSolaris Constitution 2.0 RC1 Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:03:32 +0900 From: Jim Grisanzio To: opensolaris-annou...@opensolaris.org The OGB has been working on simplifying and reorganizing the structure of the

[osol-discuss] Creating Projects: A Reminder

/010_OpenSolaris_Constitution_2009 Jim -- Jim Grisanzio Sr. Program Manager, OpenSolaris Engineering http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] writing osug article

ond to advocacy-discuss. Thanks ... :) Jim -- Jim Grisanzio Sr. Program Manager, OpenSolaris Engineering http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Are these forums moderated in OpenSolaris.org - they are useless right now.

John Brewer wrote: > Are these forums moderated, can they be cleaned up or filtered? does not make > the site look good with the content posted. > opensound: discuss > valex: discuss > vconsole: discuss > star: discuss > tamarack: discuss > cc'ing website-discuss: I'm cleaning these forums no

[osol-discuss] YouTube: OpenSolaris at Intel Developer Forum SF

More OpenSolaris/Intel videos. These things are starting to add up. The interviews are pretty good, actually, and so is the production. Nice and quick with lots of movement. We even get VP Bill out there ... * OpenSolaris and the Intel/Sun Collaboration Bill Franklin http://ww

Re: [osol-discuss] firefox problems with snv_98

Bill Shannon wrote: > 1. Why did they disappear to begin with? Anyone else seen this? This happened to me when I first installed FF3 separately from any upgrade to OpenSolaris. That was probably on to b91 or so. It wouldn't take any imports and it didn't find my previous profile. I figured it

Re: [osol-discuss] Linux/FreeBSD/(Open)Solaris survey paper

Philip Torchinsky wrote: > Hi, > > Many people around are interested in honest comparison of Linux, > FreeBSD and Solaris/OpenSolaris. I would like to make (or translate to > Russian, if it exists in English) the paper about it. What actually > are differences between those systems in terms of i

[osol-discuss] [Fwd: [osol-announce] Reminder: 3 Key Lists for Website Upgrade]

date on upcoming site upgrades and governance changes. Thanks a lot ... Jim Original Message Subject:[osol-announce] Reminder: 3 Key Lists for Website Upgrade Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:03:15 +0900 From: Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PRO

Re: [osol-discuss] Townhall meeting

Dennis Clarke wrote: > > Will there be consideration given to community based operations that are > not under the OpenSolaris umbrella and thus not inside Sun corporate? Tim was on the OGB call today talking about the Town Hall, and Glynn suggested that segment of the meeting could be for variou

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris osol-0811-96

On 09/05/08 14:10, Dennis Clarke wrote: OpenSolaris osol-0811-96 ISO images are available at http://genunix.org I have no idea where to post this .. but here, for people in China or the far East where bandwidth can be a major drag : http://blastwave.unix-center.net/OpenSolaris/update/

Re: [osol-discuss] Can Solaris be discussed here?

UNIX admin wrote: >> From a product and market perspective, Solaris 10 is >> big and has a well >> stablish customer base. From a product and market >> perspective >> OpenSolaris is tiny. It's just getting started. It >> was just released as >> a distro a few months ago. >> > > Now now Jim

Re: [osol-discuss] Can Solaris be discussed here?

Ming Kin Lai wrote: > It is a choice-of-words issue on whether the word "abandoning" should be > used. But as hartz said, Sun is clearly diverting its resource to > OpenSolaris. As to how bad (as far as Solaris 10 is concerned) the diversion > is, that's a judgment call. I don't see a diver

Re: [osol-discuss] Can Solaris be discussed here?

Ming Kin Lai wrote: > I am curious - how many people here in these OpenSolaris forums have > OpenSolaris installed on their PCs at home? Or are they mostly discussing > OpenSolaris problems they have at work/school? Does anyone have any idea? > I think you'll find it a mix, really. I have a

[osol-discuss] DTrace at TLUG in Tokyo

hey ... A few Sun Japan engineers went to the Tokyo Linux User Group yesterday to talk about and demo DTrace: http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/entry/dtrace_at. It was great fun, and it was great to see OpenSolaris guys mixing with Linux and BSC guys in English and Japanese with Americans, Japanese

Re: [osol-discuss] [ug-bosug] New BeleniX website now online

Moinak Ghosh wrote: > Hi Folks, > >I am please to announce that new overhauled BeleniX website on a new > server is now online thanks to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the fantastic > work of Angad Singh. > Hey, cool. Looks great. Congrats! Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ __

Re: [osol-discuss] Congratulations. We're 3.

Joerg Schilling wrote: > BTW: today is the 3rd Birthday of the first OpenSolaris based distribution > "SchilliX". > Cool, Joerg. :) Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Congratulations. We're 3.

hey, guys, Happy Birthday. :) We became three on Saturday. Time flies, eh? A very special thank you to everyone for putting in so much time and effort to make OpenSolaris a success. We may have had a challenging year, but we came through on a nice upswing. I'm certainly looking forward to year

Re: [osol-discuss] I don't get it....

Kapil Aggarwal wrote: > Well...I guess a lot has changed in the last 10 years. Video cards are as > cheap as a cable now. And a GUI doesn't necassarily have to be tied to video, > it can be a web console. > > But I digress. My point is that in TODAY's world, I'm flabbergasted as to why > would

Re: [osol-discuss] I don't get it....

Kapil Aggarwal wrote: > Is it just me, or is this something that no one wants to say out aloud? > > This is an ENTERPRISE level operating system from SUN, one of the big dogs! > And yet, even an initial install seems to be a nightmare. The installer > interface looks like it was designed in the 7

Re: [osol-discuss] The ZFS inventor and Linus sitting in a tree?

UNIX admin wrote: >> Yep. University programs started in China almost >> immediately after >> OpenSolaris was launched (but no one in the west >> noticed), and then the >> India team got involved, and now Sun corporate is >> funding edu programs >> globally. It's a big deal, actually, and involv

Re: [osol-discuss] The ZFS inventor and Linus sitting in a tree?

Octave Orgeron wrote: > Hi, > > Hopefully, we'll see a positive trend in the education sector. That's how > we'll build out our community. Trying to persuade the Linux crowd to defect > is highly unlikely. > > From what I've seen in India and China, I'm *very* confident that OpenSolaris wi

Re: [osol-discuss] The ZFS inventor and Linus sitting in a tree?

Alex Leverington wrote: > On May 19, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Octave Orgeron wrote: > > >> It would be better for Sun to put more effort around building our >> community. The best place for Sun to start is to target colleges, >> universities, start-ups, and the embedded consumer market. Doing >>

Re: [osol-discuss] Any plans to update the "roadmap"?

Tim Scanlon wrote: > Jim Grizanzo wrote: > > "I don't mean to imply that the Website CG will maintain it, per say, > just that it's on the list of content items to be reviewed because it's > no longer being maintained by anyone, that's all. Personally, I think > the road map should live with the OG

Re: [osol-discuss] Any plans to update the "roadmap"?

James Mansion wrote: > I can see how it comes to be there, and at least it is *somewhere*, > but it seems wrong > to me. Maintenance of a coherent roadmap should be a function of > project leadership I don't mean to imply that the Website CG will maintain it, per say, just that it's on the lis

Re: [osol-discuss] Any plans to update the "roadmap"?

Tim Scanlon wrote: > It's out of date and appears unmaintained. That road map was maintained by the tonic team at Sun (the team that created OpenSolaris 4 years ago), but it really doesn't reflect the entire project any more since most of that team's original plans are done or have been distri

Re: [osol-discuss] michael jordan shoes basketball bape bbc trainers 22's retros XXI 3 V IV XI

Sorry about this spam ... I suspended the account. Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Webcast on Solaris/Xeon

Stewart, David C wrote: > > In case you are interested. > > I recently sat in on a webcast with Sun talking about some of our work > optimizing OpenSolaris on Xeon. If you’re curious about some of the > work we’re doing, it’s nice because I talk a little about the upcoming > Nehalem processor fa

Re: [osol-discuss] Last two weeks to submit papers to OpenSolaris Developer Conference 2008

Dirk Wetter wrote: > Hi all, > > just a reminder for whom it concerns: > > The OSDevCon Call for Papers closes in less than > two weeks. > > So if you want to present your work within the OpenSolaris > community, meet other developers and enjoy Prague, hurry up! > > Submission and web site is @ htt

[osol-discuss] Request: posting to opensolaris-announce

gs up announce. Thanks. Jim -- Jim Grisanzio http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Days Update

hey ... just a reminder that OpenSolaris Days are still going on around the world. Stop by if we come to a city near you: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-announce/2008-February/001747.html Jim -- Jim Grisanzio http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Community Principles: Multilingual

Since we have a bunch of country portals now, I did a little copy/paste and created a multi-lingual page for the OpenSolaris Community Principles: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/advocacy/principles/. I put the page in Advocacy for now, but it can live anywhere, of course. The portals are l

[osol-discuss] Jobs/Recruiters List

Just a reminder. We have a list (that we haven't used yet) for companies and recruiters to post jobs and communicate with OpenSolaris developers: http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-jobs. I got several requests recently and other list admins did as well this morning. Just s

[osol-discuss] [Fwd: [osol-announce] OpenSolaris Community Innovation Awards -- List and Wiki]

fyi: Original Message Subject: [osol-announce] OpenSolaris Community Innovation Awards -- List andWiki Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:55:48 +0900 From: Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The list and wi

Re: [osol-discuss] Middle management at Sun destroys OpenDS is OpenSolaris next?

Shawn Walker wrote: > Don't you realise that stuff like this only continues to cement the > view that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand at Sun is > doing? The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Ok. Guilty. Why is that surprising? It's a large organization and many

Re: [osol-discuss] Middle management at Sun destroys OpenDS is OpenSolaris next?

Shawn Walker wrote: > On Nov 30, 2007 3:02 AM, Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Chris Mahan wrote: >> >>> I look forward to the discussion this is going to generate, namely: can Sun >>> do the same to OpenSolaris, and if not, why not, what'

Re: [osol-discuss] Middle management at Sun destroys OpenDS is OpenSolaris next?

e inside story and are keeping it from you? We don't, by the way. Don't you guys realize that this is the single most effective way of decreasing your credibility while at the same time decreasing the participation of the very people you need to be interacting with? This is so disappoin

Re: [osol-discuss] Middle management at Sun destroys OpenDS is OpenSolaris next?

are actually the ones who have to solve our own problems. Not Sun. By focusing on Sun, we will continually miss the opportunity to fix all the small problems that lead to the big ones. Jim -- Jim Grisanzio http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris ___ opensola

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] A proposal for ensuring sustained Community Growth and Success

Ben Rockwood wrote: > The hope was that following the installation of "leadership" in each CG, > as occured to determine the electorate for the OGB/Constitution votes, > these CG's would bootstrap themselves. They did not. > > Quite the opposite, we've seen several CG's come forward with a quiz

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] A proposal for ensuring sustained Community Growth and Success

Ben Rockwood wrote: > The hope was that following the installation of "leadership" in each CG, > as occured to determine the electorate for the OGB/Constitution votes, > these CG's would bootstrap themselves. They did not. I agree. > Quite the opposite, we've seen several CG's come forward wit

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] A proposal for ensuring sustained Community Growth and Success

Ben Rockwood wrote: > I agree, a singular leader would be important. I have come to believe > that the following are the requirements: > > 1) They must have non-Sun, non-Solaris F/OSS experience > 2) They must have some understanding of Sun and Solaris history and > practices > 3) They must be

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] A proposal for ensuring sustained Community Growth and Success

John Plocher wrote: > Shawn Walker wrote: >> Time and time again it has been said that the OGB can only act as an >> "arbiter" of sorts; it is my belief that they must be empowered to >> actually *guide* the community. > > > We are learning a lot about how to govern ourselves. One of the things

Re: [osol-discuss] I'm sorry, but I just don't get it

Joshua wrote: >Hello people >I've been a casual reader of this list since around 2004 when Solaris went >open. > > Welcome. >I'm primarily a Windows user but I'm also comfortable with a lot of Linux >flavours including Fedora,Debian,Ubuntu and SuSe. >I've never felt the need to participate unt

Re: [osol-discuss] [trademark-policy-dev] [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

Joerg Schilling wrote: >SchilliX is a project and it still exists and Sun still does not help with >SchilliX. > >The main issue is that Sun did miss the time to create a commiunity >distribution >as Sun did not help with SchilliX. The time for createing a real single >community distro did p

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] screwdrivers - Re: [trademark-policy-dev] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

Derek Cicero wrote: >As I mentioned at the summit and on the website-discuss list, once this >project gets out of the 'preview' phase we'll probably move the >OpenSolaris distro to a separate mini-site on os.org and revert the old >/os/ home page back. > > > I like this idea. Jim -- http://

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] I'm sorry, but I just don't get it

James Mansion wrote: > Surely, having a kernel developer community is the least of Sun's > actual problems. > Sun has developers and having most development done in the context of > a funded and > managed environment is very valuable. What is needed most of all is a > *user* community > that

Re: [osol-discuss] Name Change?

Stephen Lau wrote: >> Sure. You've raised your voice. But what I mean is that the Members have >> not collectively had a discussion and come to some consensus as a group. >> I'm not saying they have to, but it's clearly observable that they didn't. >> >> >> > We have. But as a collective, we

Re: [osol-discuss] Name Change?

Joerg Schilling wrote: > Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> John Sonnenschein wrote: >>> I specifically am referring to how certain unknown elements within Sun >>> made a decision, >> >> Sun employees are part of the community, but since

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] I'm sorry, but I just don't get it

Jason J. W. Williams wrote: > Hey Guys, > > As someone who's come to OpenSolaris from outside the community, I > think the decision is right on. And Ian's comment that he doesn't get > it. It seems to me that community is important, but OpenSolaris has a > larger identity issue vis-a-vis the non-c

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Let's focus. (2nd Draft)

W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > You people are accusing "Whoever those person or persons may be" of being a > dictator, but you don't have any problem being one when "you" are on the > driver's seat. > > Have you ever consulted (or even thought about) the opinions of little people > like me and a bunc

Re: [osol-discuss] [trademark-policy-dev] [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

Al Hopper wrote: > On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Shawn Walker wrote: >> The ability to use the OpenSolaris name is a privilege; not a right. >^^^ > > This is absolutely correct. And, along with the ownership of that > trademark comes t

Re: [osol-discuss] [trademark-policy-dev] I'm sorry, but I just don't get it

Dennis Clarke wrote: >> All right. >> >> I don't even know where to begin. > > Welcome to the OpenSolaris Community where you can do great work, endless > hours year after year and get endless heartache for it. > > Ian, to be frank, you're new here. This sort of thing has gone on for > years and

Re: [osol-discuss] Name Change?

Brandorr wrote: > While I agree with your pronouncement, most of us volunteers get > emotional from time to time, and will apologize if we get out of line. > (When I say volunteers, that includes Sun volunteers). The man is > stating his feelings. He did not insult Ian as far as I can see, nor > d

Re: [osol-discuss] Name Change?

John Sonnenschein wrote: > I specifically am referring to how certain unknown elements within Sun > made a decision, Sun employees are part of the community, but since we are still doing development straddling a firewall this is all very confusing. Far too much is going on inside Sun, no quest

Re: [osol-discuss] Name Change?

Mark Martin wrote: > Jim, > > I would like to add to the point about the OGB and members being silent > -- I'd rather see action at this point. I know I've personally been > biting my tongue because there seemed to be plenty of flame fanning and > partly because most of my own views seemed to

Re: [osol-discuss] Name Change?

John Sonnenschein wrote: > Fair enough, I apologize. Thank you. This is most welcome. Jim -- http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Trust: Trademark, Sun and the Community

James Carlson wrote: > John Sonnenschein writes: >> Note that this is quite aside from how I or anyone else feels with >> respect to the name. I'm not asking for the name "OpenSolaris" to be >> attached to the indiana project or the contrary, I'm asking the OGB, >> whose job it is to stand up for t

Re: [osol-discuss] Name Change?

John Sonnenschein wrote: > I'm relatively sure I did name him, it's Murdock that betrayed the > community with that announcement the other day so I'm going to place > the blame at his feet. Your comments were unprofessional. It's ashame we are using this type of rhetoric to undermine each ot

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

had promised to raise this issue to Sun management, which resulted > in today's meeting. Good. I'm glad the OGB has met with Sun. I think the OGB has the right to assert regular meetings with the company, and I have every confidence that the current membership will raise the approp

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

therefore they have no platform from which to argue for consensus. They are simply individual voices among everyone else. This also seems true of the OGB. When we hear from the OGB, many times the comments are qualified with "speaking for myself, not the OGB" and that also reduces the i

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

Doug Scott wrote: > Shawn Walker wrote: >> 5) Have a community vote >> > > Why? So far I have seen almost zero comments from core contributes from > other communities. Is there really interest? We have a community-wide contributors list, but it's not used very much: http://mail.opensolaris.

Re: [osol-discuss] [trademark-policy-dev] [advocacy-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

Joerg Schilling wrote: > I have no problem if Sun would start to publish something called: > "Sun OpenSolaris " Why would "Sun OpenSolaris" make sense? Actually, that expression has been used (incorrectly) in the media, and it's only added to the confusion. Also, isn't it a benefit for the

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Indiana and the OpenSolaris name

of lists that don't have forums now, and many times people (like myself) don't even want the forums since they are such a pain in the butt. Until we dump Jive, we should probably keep forums for the key lists. I'll check with Derek/Eric on th

Re: [osol-discuss] Reflections from the GSoC Mentor's summit

Anil Gulecha wrote: > Hi All, > > Should the (aimed for) increase be linear? Not at all. I just sounded like a reasonable number to me considering how hard it is to get participation for stuff like that. > Opensolaris' popularity and > usage, if all goes well, is set to increase tenfold in th

Re: [osol-discuss] Reflections from the GSoC Mentor's summit

umped that up to 4 this year from a similar number of submissions (I think). So, I think 6-8 is reasonable for next year. Jim -- Jim Grisanzio http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Lines of Code

Patrick Finch wrote: > i.e. marketing not to blame. Correct. We can't even agree among ourselves how to count the darn thing. :) Not that it mattes much, but it's good trivia for doing talks and tossing out t-shirts. Jim -- Jim Grisanzio http://blogs.su

Re: [osol-discuss] Lines of Code

Edward Pilatowicz wrote: > On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 06:57:08AM +0530, Anil Gulecha wrote: >> On 9/29/07, Scott Rotondo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Jim Grisanzio wrote: >>>> hey ... anyone have an updated count of the number of lines of code in >&g

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