Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Future of the desktop

2005-07-20 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Brian Cameron wrote: The JDS team is working to provide the CBE and the Sun patches needed to build the desktop, so is it similarly straightforward for someone to build the Xserver for Solaris? Does the Xserver team apply patches, use nondefault build options, or otherwise modify the Xserver

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Future of the desktop

2005-07-20 Thread Calum Benson
On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 14:56 -0500, Eric Boutilier wrote: So what I should have said is, Blastwave's GNOME build (set of custom patches) is the leading community-based build. Agreed :) Cheeri, Calum. -- CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Future of the desktop

2005-07-19 Thread Darren Kenny
Joerg, I'm not sure what you mean by Solaris / CDE in this context? To reiterate what we are planning and to try clarify things (I hope) : JDS, as a desktop platform, is essentially GNOME, in that we take GNOME packages and apply patches (which include bug fixes, some features and branding)

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Future of the desktop

2005-07-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Darren Kenny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by Solaris / CDE in this context? To reiterate what we are planning and to try clarify things (I hope) : JDS, as a desktop platform, is essentially GNOME, in that we take GNOME packages and apply patches (which include bug

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Future of the desktop

2005-07-19 Thread Shawn Walker
On 7/19/05, Darren Kenny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At present dtlogin is the default login process, but you can change to using GDM2 if you so desire, just disable the rc*/*dtlogin scripts and enable the GDM2 service (under SMF). The easiest way of which is to do: To switch to using GDM

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Future of the desktop

2005-07-19 Thread Brian Cameron
Darren: At present dtlogin is the default login process, but you can change to using GDM2 if you so desire, just disable the rc*/*dtlogin scripts and enable the GDM2 service (under SMF). Yes, we ship GDM2 with Solaris. CDE login is the default login program in Solaris. I'm not sure what

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Future of the desktop

2005-07-19 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Calum Benson wrote: On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 13:39 -0500, Eric Boutilier wrote: ... From what I'm hearing, it's more likely that vanilla community versions of the JDS components (GNOME, Mozilla etc.) will be made available under the OpenSolaris umbrella...

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Future of the desktop

2005-07-19 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Brian Cameron wrote: Yes, we ship GDM2 with Solaris. CDE login is the default login program in Solaris. I'm not sure what login you get in OpenSolaris by default. Command line.(OpenSolaris is simply the release of the Solaris ON consolidation source code so far. No X. There's also

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Future of the desktop

2005-07-19 Thread Brian Cameron
Alan: Yes, we ship GDM2 with Solaris. CDE login is the default login program in Solaris. I'm not sure what login you get in OpenSolaris by default. Command line.(OpenSolaris is simply the release of the Solaris ON consolidation source code so far. No X. There's also not anyone out

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Future of the desktop

2005-07-19 Thread ken mays
--- Eric Boutilier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2005, Calum Benson wrote: On Tue, 2005-07-19 at 13:39 -0500, Eric Boutilier wrote: ... From what I'm hearing, it's more likely that vanilla community versions of the JDS components (GNOME, Mozilla etc.) will be made

[osol-discuss] Re: Future of the desktop

2005-07-18 Thread Bob Palowoda
On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 11:04 -0700, Daniel Johnsen wrote: a week ago I read, that the development resources for the Java Desktop System will be decreased, All Sun has said is that we'll be focusing more on Solaris and less on Linux... just like we did when we first joined the GNOME

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Future of the desktop

2005-07-18 Thread Calum Benson
On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 07:06 -0700, Bob Palowoda wrote: Thank God Open Solaris doesn't have to worry about JDS branding success or issues. But I have to ask which Sun-specific stuff is or will be part of Open Solaris? I don't think anyone knows the answer to that yet, but I'm pretty sure

[osol-discuss] Re: Future of the desktop

2005-07-15 Thread Daniel Johnsen
The only thing I have heard about JDS development is that the focus was shifting to JDS/Solaris instead of JDS/Linux. Are you certain about this? Can you quote a source? I don't think SUN would speak this out that directly. They aimed to create an alternate to Windows:

[osol-discuss] Re: Future of the desktop

2005-07-15 Thread Sunil
While I respect that is your opinion, please don't start KDE vs. GNOME flamewars using inflammatory language. hey, they are so much fun...:-) and I have to admit that gnome developers have no regard for portability. kde 3.4.1 compiles OOB on solaris, while every other pkg for gnome 2.10.1

[osol-discuss] Re: Future of the desktop

2005-07-15 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
My two cents (from someone who has been using Linux desktops since the late 90's): since JDS stayed behind the expectations. JDS never took off b/c imho it was based on a platform (GPL/Linux) that was, on hindsight, never suitable for a desktop OS. A desktop involves as much hardware as it

[osol-discuss] Re: Future of the desktop

2005-07-15 Thread Jake Hamby
I know this topic can easily lead to a flame war, but I don't think my message has the potential to start one. You see, I also told what I like on Gnome, that KDE isn't perfect, and that I prefer KDE. But I accept people who don't like it (flavours are different). I am really serious about

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Future of the desktop

2005-07-15 Thread ken mays
--- W. Wayne Liauh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My two cents (from someone who has been using Linux desktops since the late 90's): since JDS stayed behind the expectations. JDS never took off b/c imho it was based on a platform (GPL/Linux) that was, on hindsight, never suitable for a