Re: [openssl-project] VOTE on travel reimbursement policy
* > So I think we should either all vote in public, or nobody should vote in public. * You make a good point there - I agree. Sure. So what does the public takes in votes.txt mean? ___ openssl-project mailing list openssl-project@openssl.org https://mta.openssl.org/mailman/listinfo/openssl-project
Re: [openssl-project] VOTE on travel reimbursement policy
[kurt] > So I think we should either all vote in public, or nobody should vote in public. You make a good point there - I agree. Tim. ___ openssl-project mailing list openssl-project@openssl.org https://mta.openssl.org/mailman/listinfo/openssl-project
Re: [openssl-project] VOTE on travel reimbursement policy
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:40:29PM +0100, Richard Levitte wrote: > In message <20180214212414.ga13...@roeckx.be> on Wed, 14 Feb 2018 22:24:14 > +0100, Kurt Roeckx said: > > kurt> The call for votes should probably also not go to the project list > kurt> based on that current rules say that we vote on the omc list > kurt> afaik. > > This is exactly contrary to what we agreed on at the last f2f, apart > from *certain* votes (such as invitation of new people). I think that what we agreed to is that the text to vote on should be discussed on the project list before the vote, and that the vote should happen on the omc list. Since the vote happens on the omc list, I see no reason to send the call for votes to the project list, I only see it as confusing. Note that I have no problem with voting in public, but then everybody should vote in public. If some people vote in public and others don't, the summary might give enough information about what the others voted. So I think we should either all vote in public, or nobody should vote in public. Kurt ___ openssl-project mailing list openssl-project@openssl.org https://mta.openssl.org/mailman/listinfo/openssl-project
Re: [openssl-project] VOTE on travel reimbursement policy
> Now, the initial posting went to both the OMC and the project list, > and some chose to vote with a simple "Reply All" without editing the > recipients. If that was on purpose or because attention wasn't payed > to that detail, I cannot say. For my part, it was just a reply-all - but if I had stopped to look at the details I still would have done a reply-all - as there is nothing in this vote that needs to be kept private in my view. I guess it is a choice for each OMC member as to whether or not they make their actual votes public - the summary results will be - but the actual votes were indeed meant to be on openssl-omc only. It would also have been good for the text to be attached - especially when we are sending vote details to openssl-project. Tim. ___ openssl-project mailing list openssl-project@openssl.org https://mta.openssl.org/mailman/listinfo/openssl-project
Re: [openssl-project] VOTE on travel reimbursement policy
In message <20180214212414.ga13...@roeckx.be> on Wed, 14 Feb 2018 22:24:14 +0100, Kurt Roeckx said: kurt> The call for votes should probably also not go to the project list kurt> based on that current rules say that we vote on the omc list kurt> afaik. This is exactly contrary to what we agreed on at the last f2f, apart from *certain* votes (such as invitation of new people). Note that there's a difference between the thing we vote on and our votes. That latter is supposed to happen within the confines of the OMC, but the final tally (numbers only) would be presented on the project list. Now, the initial posting went to both the OMC and the project list, and some chose to vote with a simple "Reply All" without editing the recipients. If that was on purpose or because attention wasn't payed to that detail, I cannot say. Cheers, Richard -- Richard Levitte levi...@openssl.org OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org/~levitte/ ___ openssl-project mailing list openssl-project@openssl.org https://mta.openssl.org/mailman/listinfo/openssl-project
Re: [openssl-project] VOTE on travel reimbursement policy
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 04:06:44PM +, Salz, Rich wrote: > The policy is in the bureau (not a public repo) so that we have something > concrete to vote on. It is exactly the same as I posted to the project list > before. I would like to see all votes contain the full text and not a reference to some commit id. The call for votes should probably also not go to the project list based on that current rules say that we vote on the omc list afaik. Kurt ___ openssl-project mailing list openssl-project@openssl.org https://mta.openssl.org/mailman/listinfo/openssl-project
[openssl-project] VOTE on travel reimbursement policy
The policy is in the bureau (not a public repo) so that we have something concrete to vote on. It is exactly the same as I posted to the project list before. + +topic: Adopt travel recommendation policy in commit e12d59a and format and +post to the web. +Proposed by Rich +Public: yes +opened:2018-02-14 +closed: -mm-dd + + Matt [ ] + Mark [ ] + Viktor [ ] + Tim[ ] + Emilia [ ] + Richard[ ] + Kurt [ ] + Rich [+1] ___ openssl-project mailing list openssl-project@openssl.org https://mta.openssl.org/mailman/listinfo/openssl-project