[openstack-dev] [nova] nova networking API and CLI are poorly documented and buggy

2014-06-17 Thread Mike Spreitzer
I am not even sure what is the intent, but some of the behavior looks like it is clearly unintended and not useful (i.e., buggy). IMHO, the API and CLI documentation should explain these calls/commands in enough detail that the reader can tell the difference. And the difference should be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Fuel] Using saltstack as orchestrator for fuel

2014-06-17 Thread Renat Akhmerov
Dmitri, this is a true statement. Mistral is fully abstracted out from a concrete transport. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. On 17 Jun 2014, at 00:52, Dmitry Borodaenko dborodae...@mirantis.com wrote: Mistral doesn't have to be married to RabbitMQ, there's a ZeroMQ driver in oslo.messaging,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] - Location for common third-party libs?

2014-06-17 Thread Armando M.
I don't think that a common area as being proposed is a silver bullet for solving packaging issues, such as this one. Knowing that the right source tree bits are dropped onto the file system is not enough to guarantee that the end-to-end solution will work on a specific distro. Other issues may

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][Swift][third-party] Most Third Party CI's failing

2014-06-17 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 15 June 2014 02:45, Sukhdev Kapur sukhdevka...@gmail.com wrote: I thought I send out this message in case other CI maintainers are investigating this issue. I have a problem that appeared at the same time and may be related? testr list-tests in the tempest directory is failing with an

[openstack-dev] New Contributor Agreement is not working?

2014-06-17 Thread Sami J. Mäkinen
Hello all. I am trying to sign the New Contributor Agreement to be able to submit a new blueprint for review. For several weeks now, I just always get an error message included below. I even suspected browser compatibility problems, but trying with Google Chrome, Opera or Firefox dit not help

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating Ken'ichi Ohmichi for nova-core

2014-06-17 Thread Michael Still
Hi. I'm going to let this sit for another 24 hours, and then we'll declare it closed. Cheers, Michael On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 6:16 AM, Mark McLoughlin mar...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 2014-06-14 at 08:40 +1000, Michael Still wrote: Greetings, I would like to nominate Ken'ichi Ohmichi for the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Distributed locking

2014-06-17 Thread Matthew Booth
On 17/06/14 00:28, Joshua Harlow wrote: So this is a reader/write lock then? I have seen https://github.com/python-zk/kazoo/pull/141 come up in the kazoo (zookeeper python library) but there was a lack of a maintainer for that 'recipe', perhaps if we really find this needed we can help get

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] - Location for common third-party libs?

2014-06-17 Thread Kevin Benton
Hi Ihar, What is the reason to breakup neutron into so many packages? A quick disk usage stat shows the plugins directory is currently 3.4M. Is that considered to be too much space for a package, or was it for another reason? Thanks, Kevin Benton On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Ihar

[openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Heat] Reminder: Mid-cycle Meetup - Attendance Confirmation

2014-06-17 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Hi all, I would like to remind you to sign up for mid-cycle meetup which is happening July 21-25 in Raleigh: * https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-midcycle-meetup We need number of participants as soon as possible so that we can ask for group discount at the hotel. Also if we don't get

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] SSL VPN Implemenatation

2014-06-17 Thread Zang MingJie
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Nachi Ueno na...@ntti3.com wrote: Hi Zang Since, SSL-VPN for Juno bp is approved in neturon-spec, I would like to restart this work. Could you share your code if it is possible? Also, Let's discuss how we can collaborate in here. Currently We are running

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating Ken'ichi Ohmichi for nova-core

2014-06-17 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 06/14/2014 12:40 AM, Michael Still wrote: Greetings, I would like to nominate Ken'ichi Ohmichi for the nova-core team. Ken'ichi has been involved with nova for a long time now. His reviews on API changes are excellent, and he's been part of the team that has driven the new API work

[openstack-dev] [taskflow] Recommendations for the granularity of tasks and their stickiness to workers

2014-06-17 Thread Eoghan Glynn
Folks, A question for the taskflow ninjas. Any thoughts on best practice WRT $subject? Specifically I have in mind this ceilometer review[1] which adopts the approach of using very fine-grained tasks (at the level of an individual alarm evaluation) combined with short-term assignments to

[openstack-dev] [nova] A modest proposal to reduce reviewer load

2014-06-17 Thread Matthew Booth
We all know that review can be a bottleneck for Nova patches.Not only that, but a patch lingering in review, no matter how trivial, will eventually accrue rebases which sap gate resources, developer time, and will to live. It occurs to me that there are a significant class of patches which simply

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] A modest proposal to reduce reviewer load

2014-06-17 Thread Duncan Thomas
A far more effective way to reduce the load of trivial review issues on core reviewers is for none-core reviewers to get in there first, spot the problems and add a -1 - the trivial issues are then hopefully fixed up before a core reviewer even looks at the patch. The fundamental problem with

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] LBaaS Mid Cycle Sprint

2014-06-17 Thread Avishay Balderman
Hi As the lbass mid cycle sprint starts today, is there any way to track and understand the progress (without flying to Texas... ) Thanks Avishay ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] A modest proposal to reduce reviewer load

2014-06-17 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:04:17AM +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: We all know that review can be a bottleneck for Nova patches.Not only that, but a patch lingering in review, no matter how trivial, will eventually accrue rebases which sap gate resources, developer time, and will to live. It

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][ML2] Modular L2 agent architecture

2014-06-17 Thread Zang MingJie
Hi: Awesome! Currently we are suffering lots of bugs in ovs-agent, also intent to rebuild a more stable flexible agent. Taking the experience of ovs-agent bugs, I think the concurrency problem is also a very important problem, the agent gets lots of event from different greenlets, the rpc, the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] A modest proposal to reduce reviewer load

2014-06-17 Thread Sean Dague
On 06/17/2014 07:23 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:04:17AM +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: We all know that review can be a bottleneck for Nova patches.Not only that, but a patch lingering in review, no matter how trivial, will eventually accrue rebases which sap gate

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] A modest proposal to reduce reviewer load

2014-06-17 Thread Gary Kotton
On 6/17/14, 1:56 PM, Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com wrote: A far more effective way to reduce the load of trivial review issues on core reviewers is for none-core reviewers to get in there first, spot the problems and add a -1 - the trivial issues are then hopefully fixed up before a

Re: [openstack-dev] [taskflow] Recommendations for the granularity of tasks and their stickiness to workers

2014-06-17 Thread Julien Danjou
On Tue, Jun 17 2014, Eoghan Glynn wrote: Any thoughts on best practice WRT $subject? First thing on my mind is that having smaller task can allow to have a better repartition of the work load. :) -- Julien Danjou # Free Software hacker # http://julien.danjou.info signature.asc Description:

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Backwards compatibility policy for our projects

2014-06-17 Thread Tomas Sedovic
On 16/06/14 18:51, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Tomas Sedovic's message of 2014-06-16 09:19:40 -0700: All, After having proposed some changes[1][2] to tripleo-heat-templates[3], reviewers suggested adding a deprecation period for the merge.py script. While TripleO is an official

[openstack-dev] [NFV] What is NFV - Wiki page updated with proposal

2014-06-17 Thread Nicolas Barcet
Hello, Just a quick note to mention that I just updated the subteam wiki page with a proposed definition of what NFV means. Comments and updates are of course welcome. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Teams/NFV#What_is_NFV.3F Cheers, -- Nicolas Barcet nico...@barcet.com a.k.a. nijaba, nick

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] A modest proposal to reduce reviewer load

2014-06-17 Thread Matthew Booth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17/06/14 12:36, Sean Dague wrote: On 06/17/2014 07:23 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:04:17AM +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: We all know that review can be a bottleneck for Nova patches.Not only that, but a patch lingering

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] A modest proposal to reduce reviewer load

2014-06-17 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 01:12:45PM +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17/06/14 12:36, Sean Dague wrote: On 06/17/2014 07:23 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: If would be nice if gerrit had simple keyword tagging so any reviewer can tag an existing

Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] What is NFV - Wiki page updated with proposal

2014-06-17 Thread Russell Bryant
On 06/17/2014 08:00 AM, Nicolas Barcet wrote: Hello, Just a quick note to mention that I just updated the subteam wiki page with a proposed definition of what NFV means. Comments and updates are of course welcome. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Teams/NFV#What_is_NFV.3F Overview

[openstack-dev] [NFV] Patches tagging with NFVImpact

2014-06-17 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Hi, There is an action for creating a Gerrit dashboard to show all NFV-related specs and patches. As it requires to have a specific label for discriminating them, I'm adding NFVImpact in all the patches proposed in [1]. The side effect is that it creates another patchset and so runs another

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] A modest proposal to reduce reviewer load

2014-06-17 Thread Russell Bryant
On 06/17/2014 08:20 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 01:12:45PM +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17/06/14 12:36, Sean Dague wrote: On 06/17/2014 07:23 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: If would be nice if gerrit had simple keyword

Re: [openstack-dev] [taskflow] Recommendations for the granularity of tasks and their stickiness to workers

2014-06-17 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 6/17/2014 7:04 AM, Eoghan Glynn wrote: Folks, A question for the taskflow ninjas. Any thoughts on best practice WRT $subject? Specifically I have in mind this ceilometer review[1] which adopts the approach of using very fine-grained tasks (at the level of an individual alarm

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][QA] Disabling the v3 API tests in the gate

2014-06-17 Thread John Garbutt
On 12 June 2014 17:10, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 06/12/2014 12:02 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 6/12/2014 10:51 AM, Matthew Treinish wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:41:19AM +0930, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:25 AM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating Ken'ichi Ohmichi for nova-core

2014-06-17 Thread John Garbutt
On 06/14/2014 12:40 AM, Michael Still wrote: Greetings, I would like to nominate Ken'ichi Ohmichi for the nova-core team. Ken'ichi has been involved with nova for a long time now. His reviews on API changes are excellent, and he's been part of the team that has driven the new API work

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] A modest proposal to reduce reviewer load

2014-06-17 Thread Armando M.
I wonder what the turnaround of trivial patches actually is, I bet you it's very very small, and as Daniel said, the human burden is rather minimal (I would be more concerned about slowing them down in the gate, but I digress). I think that introducing a two-tier level for patch approval can only

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Review guidelines for API patches

2014-06-17 Thread John Garbutt
On 14 June 2014 00:48, Michael Still mi...@stillhq.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Christopher Yeoh cbky...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: On 6/12/2014 5:58 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do any hyperviors allow disk reduction as part of resize ?

2014-06-17 Thread John Garbutt
So I am +1 deprecating resize down, mostly for consistency reasons. On 16 June 2014 10:34, Day, Phil philip@hp.com wrote: Beyond what is and isn’t technically possible at the file system level there is always the problem that the user may have more data than can fit into the reduced disk.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Question about modifying instance attribute(such as cpu-QoS, disk-QoS ) without shutdown the instance

2014-06-17 Thread John Garbutt
I have seem some work and specs around this here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hot-resize Hope that helps, John On 8 April 2014 17:45, Trump.Zhang zhangleiqi...@gmail.com wrote: Such as QoS attributes of vCPU, Memory and Disk, including IOPS limit, Bandwidth limit, etc.

Re: [openstack-dev] New Contributor Agreement is not working?

2014-06-17 Thread ZZelle
Hello, I confirm ... one of my college has the same trouble. On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Sami J. Mäkinen sjm+osde...@hard.ware.fi wrote: Hello all. I am trying to sign the New Contributor Agreement to be able to submit a new blueprint for review. For several weeks now, I just

Re: [openstack-dev] New Contributor Agreement is not working?

2014-06-17 Thread Russell Bryant
On 06/17/2014 09:13 AM, ZZelle wrote: Hello, I confirm ... one of my college has the same trouble. Make sure you're a member of the foundation first using the same email address you're using in gerrit: https://www.openstack.org/join/register/ For some more commentary, see comments on:

Re: [openstack-dev] [QA] enabling support for execution of tempest tests for an incubated openstack project.

2014-06-17 Thread Malini Kamalambal
Hello, We went through a similar exercise for Marconi. At that point of time, there was not any documentation on the series of steps to go through. Below are some of the high level steps we went through. 1. Complete devstack integration (Make sure you run devstack with same local.conf as in

[openstack-dev] [glance] Unifying configuration file

2014-06-17 Thread Julien Danjou
Hi guys, So I've started to look at the configuration file used by Glance and I want to switch to one configuration file only. I stumbled upon this blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/use-oslo-config which fits. Does not look like I can assign myself to it, but if

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Distributed locking

2014-06-17 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:36 AM, Matthew Booth mbo...@redhat.com wrote: On 17/06/14 00:28, Joshua Harlow wrote: So this is a reader/write lock then? I have seen https://github.com/python-zk/kazoo/pull/141 come up in the kazoo (zookeeper python library) but there was a lack of a maintainer for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] LBaaS Mid Cycle Sprint

2014-06-17 Thread Dustin Lundquist
We have an Etherpad going here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-lbaas-mid-cycle-hackathon Dustin On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Avishay Balderman avish...@radware.com wrote: Hi As the lbass mid cycle sprint starts today, is there any way to track and understand the progress

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][QA] Disabling the v3 API tests in the gate

2014-06-17 Thread Ken'ichi Ohmichi
2014-06-17 21:39 GMT+09:00 John Garbutt j...@johngarbutt.com: On 12 June 2014 17:10, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 06/12/2014 12:02 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 6/12/2014 10:51 AM, Matthew Treinish wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:41:19AM +0930, Christopher Yeoh wrote: On Fri, Jun

[openstack-dev] [UX] Meeting Reminder - Jun 18th, 14:30 UTC

2014-06-17 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Hi UXers, this is a reminder that our next regular IRC meeting is happening tomorrow (Wednesday) June 18th at 14:30 UTC at #openstack-meeting-3. Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/UX Feel free to add topics which you are interested in. See you all tomorrow -- Jarda

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Unifying configuration file

2014-06-17 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 17/06/14 15:59 +0200, Julien Danjou wrote: Hi guys, So I've started to look at the configuration file used by Glance and I want to switch to one configuration file only. I stumbled upon this blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/use-oslo-config w.r.t using

Re: [openstack-dev] nova-compute vfsguestfs

2014-06-17 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 03:06:25PM +0530, abhishek jain wrote: Hi Rich Can you help me regarding the possible cause for VM stucking at spawning state on ubuntu powerpc compute node in openstack using devstack. Did you solve this one? It's impossible to debug unless you collect the full

Re: [openstack-dev] [Manila] GenericDriver cinder volume error during manila create

2014-06-17 Thread Swartzlander, Ben
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 23:06 +0530, Deepak Shetty wrote: I am trying devstack on F20 setup with Manila sources. When i am trying to do manila create --name cinder_vol_share_using_nfs2 --share-network-id 36ec5a17-cef6-44a8-a518-457a6f36faa0 NFS 2 I see the below error in c-vol due to which

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Unifying configuration file

2014-06-17 Thread Kuvaja, Erno
I do not like this idea. As now we are on 5 different config files (+ policy and schema). One for each (API and Registry) would still be ok, but putting all together would just become messy. If the *-paste.ini will be migrated to .conf files that would bring it down, but please do not try to

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do any hyperviors allow disk reduction as part of resize ?

2014-06-17 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 06:12:16AM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: Theoretically impossible to reduce disk unless you have some really nasty guest additions. True for live resizing. For dead resizing, libguestfs + virt-resize can do it. Although I wouldn't necessarily recommend it. In almost

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Unifying configuration file

2014-06-17 Thread Brian Rosmaita
I agree with Erno. I think that the glance registry service being optional is a good argument for keeping its config separate rather than munging it into the API config. rosmaita From: Kuvaja, Erno [kuv...@hp.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 10:29 AM

Re: [openstack-dev] New Contributor Agreement is not working?

2014-06-17 Thread Stefano Maffulli
Hi Sami, sorry for this. I suspect there is something going on with gerrit which throws the inappropriate error message (more below). On 06/17/2014 12:57 AM, Sami J. Mäkinen wrote: For several weeks now, I just always get an error message included below. In these cases and in general, don't

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Unifying configuration file

2014-06-17 Thread Zhi Yan Liu
Frankly I don't like the idea of using single configuration for all service too, I think it will be cool if we can generate separated configuration template files automatically for each Glance service. So besides https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83327/ , actually I'm working on that idea as well,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][qa] Do all turbo-hipster jobs fail in stable/havana?

2014-06-17 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 6/16/2014 11:58 PM, Joshua Hesketh wrote: Hi there, Very sorry for the mishap. I manually enqueued our zuul to run tests on changes that turbo-hipster had recently missed and did not pay attention to the branch they were for. Turbo-Hipster doesn't run tests on stable or non-master

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] A modest proposal to reduce reviewer load

2014-06-17 Thread John Griffith
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Armando M. arma...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder what the turnaround of trivial patches actually is, I bet you it's very very small, and as Daniel said, the human burden is rather minimal (I would be more concerned about slowing them down in the gate, but I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating Ken'ichi Ohmichi for nova-core

2014-06-17 Thread Tian, Shuangtai
+1 -Original Message- From: Michael Still [mailto:mi...@stillhq.com] Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2014 6:41 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List Subject: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Nominating Ken'ichi Ohmichi for nova-core Greetings, I would like to nominate Ken'ichi Ohmichi for the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] LBaaS Mid Cycle Sprint

2014-06-17 Thread Kyle Mestery
Also, pop into #openstack-lbaas on Freenode, we have people there monitoring the channel. On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Dustin Lundquist dus...@null-ptr.net wrote: We have an Etherpad going here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/juno-lbaas-mid-cycle-hackathon Dustin On Tue, Jun 17,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do any hyperviors allow disk reduction as part of resize ?

2014-06-17 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:56:36AM -0400, Russell Bryant wrote: On 06/17/2014 10:43 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 06:12:16AM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: Theoretically impossible to reduce disk unless you have some really nasty guest additions. True for live

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do any hyperviors allow disk reduction as part of resize ?

2014-06-17 Thread Russell Bryant
On 06/17/2014 10:43 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 06:12:16AM -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote: Theoretically impossible to reduce disk unless you have some really nasty guest additions. True for live resizing. For dead resizing, libguestfs + virt-resize can do it.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] LBaaS Mid Cycle Sprint

2014-06-17 Thread Dustin Lundquist
Actually the channel name is #neutron-lbaas. On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@noironetworks.com wrote: Also, pop into #openstack-lbaas on Freenode, we have people there monitoring the channel. On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Dustin Lundquist dus...@null-ptr.net wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][ipv6] Do you have problem accessing IRC

2014-06-17 Thread Collins, Sean
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:10:26AM EDT, Shixiong Shang wrote: Trying to join the weekly meeting, but my IRC client kept complaining…Is it just me? If you have problems, you can always use the web client: http://webchat.freenode.net/ -- Sean M. Collins

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Do any hyperviors allow disk reduction as part of resize ?

2014-06-17 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 06/13/2014 02:22 PM, Day, Phil wrote: I guess the question I’m really asking here is: “Since we know resize down won’t work in all cases, and the failure if it does occur will be hard for the user to detect, should we just block it at the API layer and be consistent across all

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Unifying configuration file

2014-06-17 Thread Arnaud Legendre
@ZhiYan: I don't like the idea of removing the sample configuration file(s) from the git repository. Many people do not want to have to checkout the entire codebase and tox every time they have to verify a variable name in a configuration file. I know many people who were really frustrated

[openstack-dev] [Murano] Package composition

2014-06-17 Thread McLellan, Steven
Hi, I'm trying to figure out what we'll be able to support in the near/far term with regards to packaging applications. My understanding of the DSL is incomplete and I'm trying to fix that :) This isn't so much a usage question as for assistance writing documentation. Taking Wordpress as the

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Unifying configuration file

2014-06-17 Thread Tom Fifield
On 17/06/14 23:30, Arnaud Legendre wrote: @ZhiYan: I don't like the idea of removing the sample configuration file(s) from the git repository. Many people do not want to have to checkout the entire codebase and tox every time they have to verify a variable name in a configuration file. I know

[openstack-dev] [Manila] Welcome Xing Yang to the Manila core team!

2014-06-17 Thread Swartzlander, Ben
The Manila core team welcomes Xing Yang! She has been a very active reviewer and has been consistently involved with the project. Xing, thank you for all your effort and keep up the great work! -Ben Swartzlander ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Unifying configuration file

2014-06-17 Thread Julien Danjou
On Tue, Jun 17 2014, Arnaud Legendre wrote: @ZhiYan: I don't like the idea of removing the sample configuration file(s) from the git repository. Many people do not want to have to checkout the entire codebase and tox every time they have to verify a variable name in a configuration file. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [3rd Party] Log retention with 3rd party testing

2014-06-17 Thread Stefano Maffulli
[trimming reply-to to OpenStack Development since I don't think that infra is the right venue to discuss this] On 06/13/2014 10:08 AM, trinath.soman...@freescale.com wrote: I have two scenarios to deal with. [1] A change takes two months or more to get merged into the master branch. Here,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] A modest proposal to reduce reviewer load

2014-06-17 Thread Ben Nemec
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/17/2014 09:52 AM, John Griffith wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Armando M. arma...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder what the turnaround of trivial patches actually is, I bet you it's very very small, and as Daniel said, the human burden

Re: [openstack-dev] [glance] Unifying configuration file

2014-06-17 Thread Arnaud Legendre
All the things that you mention here seem to be technical difficulties. I don't think technical difficulties should drive the experience of the user. Also, Zhi Yan seems to be able to make that happen :) Thanks, Arnaud - Original Message - From: Julien Danjou jul...@danjou.info To:

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [3rd Party] Log retention with 3rd party testing

2014-06-17 Thread Ben Nemec
On 06/17/2014 10:43 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: [trimming reply-to to OpenStack Development since I don't think that infra is the right venue to discuss this] On 06/13/2014 10:08 AM, trinath.soman...@freescale.com wrote: I have two scenarios to deal with. [1] A change takes two months or

Re: [openstack-dev] [Manila] Welcome Xing Yang to the Manila core team!

2014-06-17 Thread yang, xing
Thanks Ben! It's my pleasure to join the Manila core team! Xing -Original Message- From: Swartzlander, Ben [mailto:ben.swartzlan...@netapp.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 11:46 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [Manila] Welcome Xing Yang to the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] nova default quotas

2014-06-17 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 6/10/2014 3:56 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 6/4/2014 11:02 AM, Day, Phil wrote: Matt and I chatted on IRC and have come up with an outlined plan, if we missed anything please don't hesitate to comment or ask. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/quota-classes-goof-up I added a few

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] LBaaS Mid Cycle Sprint

2014-06-17 Thread Susanne Balle
We are now on: #openstack-lbaas The #neutron-lbaas is now deprecated. On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Dustin Lundquist dus...@null-ptr.net wrote: Actually the channel name is #neutron-lbaas. On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@noironetworks.com wrote: Also, pop into

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] LBaaS Mid Cycle Sprint

2014-06-17 Thread Kyle Mestery
So, we've now moved to #openstack-lbaas, my email was slightly ahead. :) On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Dustin Lundquist dus...@null-ptr.net wrote: Actually the channel name is #neutron-lbaas. On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Kyle Mestery mest...@noironetworks.com wrote: Also, pop into

Re: [openstack-dev] [Manila] Welcome Xing Yang to the Manila core team!

2014-06-17 Thread D'Angelo, Scott
Congratulations Xing! -Original Message- From: yang, xing [mailto:xing.y...@emc.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 10:11 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Manila] Welcome Xing Yang to the Manila core team! Thanks Ben! It's

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] A modest proposal to reduce reviewer load

2014-06-17 Thread Joe Gordon
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 3:56 AM, Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com wrote: A far more effective way to reduce the load of trivial review issues on core reviewers is for none-core reviewers to get in there first, spot the problems and add a -1 - the trivial issues are then hopefully fixed

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][ML2] Modular L2 agent architecture

2014-06-17 Thread Salvatore Orlando
We've started doing this in a slightly more reasonable way for icehouse. What we've done is: - remove unnecessary notification from the server - process all port-related events, either trigger via RPC or via monitor in one place Obviously there is always a lot of room for improvement, and I agree

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] LBaaS Mid Cycle Sprint

2014-06-17 Thread Phillip Toohill
Everyone is migrating to the new channel #openstack-lbaas From: Dustin Lundquist dus...@null-ptr.netmailto:dus...@null-ptr.net Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.orgmailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Date: Tuesday, June 17,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] LBaaS Mid Cycle Sprint

2014-06-17 Thread Doug Wiegley
Meetup webex: https://a10networks.webex.com/a10networks/e.php?MTID=m3351a8eb388c2ade866bac44cc272c5b From: Susanne Balle sleipnir...@gmail.commailto:sleipnir...@gmail.com Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] Name proposals

2014-06-17 Thread Radomir Dopieralski
On 06/10/2014 09:18 PM, Radomir Dopieralski wrote: The name poll is now officially over, and the winner is: horizon_lib You can view the results here: http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_ea99af9511f3f255 I think we won't need to check for trademark issues with this name, so we

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] LBaaS Mid Cycle Sprint

2014-06-17 Thread Craig Tracey
WebEx is here: https://a10networks.webex.com/a10networks/e.php?MTID=m3351a8eb388c2ade866bac44cc272c5b On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Susanne Balle sleipnir...@gmail.com wrote: We are now on: #openstack-lbaas The #neutron-lbaas is now deprecated. On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Dustin

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][ML2] Modular L2 agent architecture

2014-06-17 Thread Kyle Mestery
Another area of improvement for the agent would be to move away from executing CLIs for port commands and instead use OVSDB. Terry Wilson and I talked about this, and re-writing ovs_lib to use an OVSDB connection instead of the CLI methods would be a huge improvement here. I'm not sure if Terry

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][QoS] Meeting agenda for Today's meeting

2014-06-17 Thread Collins, Sean
Hi, I have posted a preliminary agenda for today. I will be unable to attend the meeting, Kevin Benton will be chairing the meeting today. Please do add items to the agenda that you wish to discuss! https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NeutronQoS -- Sean M. Collins

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] A modest proposal to reduce reviewer load

2014-06-17 Thread Russell Bryant
On 06/17/2014 12:22 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 3:56 AM, Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com mailto:duncan.tho...@gmail.com wrote: A far more effective way to reduce the load of trivial review issues on core reviewers is for none-core reviewers to get in

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][ML2] Modular L2 agent architecture

2014-06-17 Thread Armando M.
just a provocative thought: If we used the ovsdb connection instead, do we really need an L2 agent :P? On 17 June 2014 18:38, Kyle Mestery mest...@noironetworks.com wrote: Another area of improvement for the agent would be to move away from executing CLIs for port commands and instead use

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Distributed locking

2014-06-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Matthew Booth's message of 2014-06-17 01:36:11 -0700: On 17/06/14 00:28, Joshua Harlow wrote: So this is a reader/write lock then? I have seen https://github.com/python-zk/kazoo/pull/141 come up in the kazoo (zookeeper python library) but there was a lack of a maintainer

[openstack-dev] [Nova][neutron][NFV] Mid cycle sprints

2014-06-17 Thread Sylvain Afchain
Hi, +1 for Paris, since a mid-cycle sprint is already being hosted and organised by eNovance :) Sylvain - Original Message - From: Dmitry mey...@gmail.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2014

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] Backwards compatibility policy for our projects

2014-06-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tomas Sedovic's message of 2014-06-17 04:56:24 -0700: On 16/06/14 18:51, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Tomas Sedovic's message of 2014-06-16 09:19:40 -0700: All, After having proposed some changes[1][2] to tripleo-heat-templates[3], reviewers suggested adding a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][ML2] Modular L2 agent architecture

2014-06-17 Thread Kyle Mestery
Not if you use ODL, and we don't want to reinvent that wheel. But by skipping CLI commands and instead using OVSDB programmatically from agent to ovs-vswitchd, that's a decent improvement. On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Armando M. arma...@gmail.com wrote: just a provocative thought: If we

Re: [openstack-dev] [taskflow] Recommendations for the granularity of tasks and their stickiness to workers

2014-06-17 Thread Joshua Harlow
Howdy, Sandy is correct, we aren't doing automatic load-balancing of tasks/jobs (currently). Though there is nothing stopping this from being implemented (and I of course would recommend adding it to taskflow rather than jumping to gearman, but I am obviously biased), A feature that appeared

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][ML2] Modular L2 agent architecture

2014-06-17 Thread Narasimhan, Vivekanandan
Managing the ports and plumbing logic is today driven by L2 Agent, with little assistance from controller. If we plan to move that functionality to the controller, the controller has to be more heavy weight (both hardware and software) since it has to do the job of L2 Agent for all

Re: [openstack-dev] An alternative approach to enforcing expected election behaviour

2014-06-17 Thread James E. Blair
Eoghan Glynn egl...@redhat.com writes: TL;DR: how about we adopt a soft enforcement model, relying on sound judgement and good faith within the community? Thank you very much for bringing this up and proposing it to the TC. As others have suggested, having a concrete alternative is

Re: [openstack-dev] [taskflow] Recommendations for the granularity of tasks and their stickiness to workers

2014-06-17 Thread Joshua Harlow
Back on the distributed subject (since this deserves a different email), In the newest taskflow release (0.3.x) we have 2 mechanisms for distribution outside of a process. One is the job/jobboard[1] conductor[2] concepts, These concepts allow for atomic ownership of a 'job' and conductors act

Re: [openstack-dev] New Contributor Agreement is not working?

2014-06-17 Thread Sami J. Mäkinen
On 17/06/14 17:40, Stefano Maffulli wrote: Hi Sami, sorry for this. I suspect there is something going on with gerrit which throws the inappropriate error message (more below). Yay. I really just had to become a new OpenStack Foundation Member. The error message I got is just not too

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][ML2] Modular L2 agent architecture

2014-06-17 Thread racha
Hi, Does it make sense also to have the choice between ovs-ofctl CLI and a direct OF1.3 connection too in the ovs-agent? Best Regards, Racha On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Narasimhan, Vivekanandan vivekanandan.narasim...@hp.com wrote: Managing the ports and plumbing logic is today

Re: [openstack-dev] New Contributor Agreement is not working?

2014-06-17 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 06/17/2014 10:45 AM, Sami J. Mäkinen wrote: Yay. I really just had to become a new OpenStack Foundation Member. The error message I got is just not too informative, I could not help thinking there is something really broken. Right, unfortunately the error message from gerrit cannot be

[openstack-dev] [heat] agenda for OpenStack Heat meeting 2014-06-18 20:00 UTC

2014-06-17 Thread Mike Spreitzer
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Heat+Chatiso=20140618T20p1=211ah=1 Agenda (2014-06-18 2000 UTC) Review last meeting's actions Adding items to the agenda Mid-cycle meetup Critical issues sync Regards,

[openstack-dev] [nova] Reducing quota below utilisation

2014-06-17 Thread Tim Bell
We have some projects which are dynamically creating VMs up to their quota. Under some circumstances, as cloud administrators, we would like these projects to shrink and make room for other higher priority work. We had investigated setting the project quota below the current utilisation (i.e.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Mistral] Cleaning up configuration settings

2014-06-17 Thread W Chan
I figured. I implemented it in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/97684/. On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Renat Akhmerov rakhme...@mirantis.com wrote: I don’t think we have them. You can write them I think as a part of what you’re doing. Renat Akhmerov @ Mirantis Inc. On 31 May 2014,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][ML2] Modular L2 agent architecture

2014-06-17 Thread Kyle Mestery
I don't think so. Once we implement the OVSDB support, we will deprecate using the CLI commands in ovs_lib. On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:50 PM, racha ben...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Does it make sense also to have the choice between ovs-ofctl CLI and a direct OF1.3 connection too in the ovs-agent?

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Reducing quota below utilisation

2014-06-17 Thread Robert Collins
Makes sense to me On 18 Jun 2014 06:18, Tim Bell tim.b...@cern.ch wrote: We have some projects which are dynamically creating VMs up to their quota. Under some circumstances, as cloud administrators, we would like these projects to shrink and make room for other higher priority work. We

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Reducing quota below utilisation

2014-06-17 Thread Ravi Jagannathan
so some questions - how can we decide ( identify ) if the VM to delete can indeed be deleted - Can we better enforce quota per app / cluster level - This delete from older VM can only work if these are individual VM operating only to support work loads ( and not as standalone apps ) ? On Tue,

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