Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone]ON DELETE RESTRICT VS ON DELETE CASCADE

2015-03-08 Thread David Stanek
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com wrote: can you elaborate on your reasoning that FK constraints should be used less overall? or do you just mean that the client side should be mirroring the same rules that would be enforced by the FKs? I don't think he means

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone]ON DELETE RESTRICT VS ON DELETE CASCADE

2015-03-08 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On March 8, 2015 at 11:24:37 AM, David Stanek (dsta...@dstanek.com) wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Mike Bayer mba...@redhat.com wrote: can you elaborate on your reasoning that FK constraints should be used less overall?  or do you just mean that the client side should be mirroring the

[openstack-dev] [Glance] Glance K-3 reviews.

2015-03-08 Thread Nikhil Komawar
Hi all, This is a gentle reminder on the ML regarding Kilo-3 related reviews. Similar announcements have been made in the past few weeks during the Glance meetings [2]. A small summary of what the current status looks like for k-3 Glance: 1. Feature freeze for Glance is Mar 12th. 2.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Question about bug 1314614

2015-03-08 Thread Ian Wells
On 6 March 2015 at 13:16, Sławek Kapłoński sla...@kaplonski.pl wrote: Hello, Today I found bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1314614 because I have such problem on my infra. (For reference, if you delete a port that a Nova is using - it just goes ahead and deletes the port from

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Proposal to change Glance meeting time.

2015-03-08 Thread Fei Long Wang
Oh, it means 3:00AM for me :-( On 09/03/15 09:07, Nikhil Komawar wrote: Hi all, Currently, we've alternating time for Glance meetings. Now, with the Daylight savings being implemented in some parts of the world, we're thinking of moving the meeting time to just one slot i.e. earlier

[openstack-dev] [Glance] Proposal to change Glance meeting time.

2015-03-08 Thread Nikhil Komawar
Hi all, Currently, we've alternating time for Glance meetings. Now, with the Daylight savings being implemented in some parts of the world, we're thinking of moving the meeting time to just one slot i.e. earlier in the day(night). This solves the original conflicting times issue that a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Proposal to change Glance meeting time.

2015-03-08 Thread Louis Taylor
On Sun, Mar 08, 2015 at 08:07:33PM +, Nikhil Komawar wrote: So, the new proposal is: Glance meetings [1] to be conducted weekly on Thursdays at 1400UTC [2] on #openstack-meeting-4 +1 It was nice to try out the alternating meeting times. However, I don't think it brought many benefits,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone]ON DELETE RESTRICT VS ON DELETE CASCADE

2015-03-08 Thread Mike Bayer
Morgan Fainberg morgan.fainb...@gmail.com wrote: In general I'd say that cascade is the right approach. There are some very limited cases where restrict should be used. Overall, I'd like to see less reliance on FK constraints anywhere. can you elaborate on your reasoning that FK

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] Do No Evil

2015-03-08 Thread Mike Bayer
Ian Wells ijw.ubu...@cack.org.uk wrote: With apologies for derailing the question, but would you care to tell us what evil you're planning on doing? I find it's always best to be informed about these things. All of us, every day, do lots of things that someone is going to think is evil.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Core nominations.

2015-03-08 Thread Nikhil Komawar
Thank you for the feedback Flavio and Gary! I've noted down your concerns and will address them in a separate thread. So, I think we'd go ahead with nominations mentioned here (by Monday) and start the core-member discussion later. Thanks, -Nikhil

[openstack-dev] About Sahara EDP New Ideas for Liberty

2015-03-08 Thread Chen, Weiting
Hi all. We got several feedbacks about Sahara EDP's future from some China customers. Here are some ideas we would like to share with you and need your input if we can implement them in Sahara(Liberty). 1. Add a schedule feature to run the jobs on time: This request comes from the customer,

Re: [openstack-dev] Enforcing correct short and long description of packages we produce

2015-03-08 Thread Steve Martinelli
Okay, how's it fixed? Just updating setup.cfg for each project. Packaging is pretty much a blackbox to me (and I don't think I'm the only one with that view). Letting us know about a problem is great, but a way to resolve this would be even better. Thanks, Steve Martinelli Keystone Core Thomas

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Proposal to change Glance meeting time.

2015-03-08 Thread Alexander Tivelkov
Works for me, but the previous one worked as well. So, consider my vote as +1 unless the majority is against this :) -- Regards, Alexander Tivelkov On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:36 AM, Fei Long Wang feil...@catalyst.net.nz wrote: Oh, it means 3:00AM for me :-( On 09/03/15 09:07, Nikhil

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone]ON DELETE RESTRICT VS ON DELETE CASCADE

2015-03-08 Thread Chen, Wei D
+1, I am fan of checking the constraints in the controller level instead of relying on FK constraints itself, thanks. Best Regards, Dave Chen From: Morgan Fainberg [mailto:morgan.fainb...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 2:29 AM To: David Stanek; OpenStack Development

[openstack-dev] Enforcing correct short and long description of packages we produce

2015-03-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
Sorry guys, for writing it this way, but really... I'm sick and tired of the absence of relevant short and long description on almost every component we produce. Look at this one: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/oslo.policy Is it so hard to produce 3 lines of long description? Can't we have a rule

Re: [openstack-dev] [stable] [Glance] Nomination for glance-stable-maint

2015-03-08 Thread Thierry Carrez
Zhi Yan is all set now. Welcome ! Nikhil Komawar wrote: Thank you, Thierry! -Nikhil From: Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 10:26 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [stable]

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Generic question about synchronizing neutron agent on compute node with DB

2015-03-08 Thread Kevin Benton
Port changes will result in an update message being sent on the AMQP message bus. When the agent receives it, it will affect the communications then. If that notification is lost, the agent will eventually resynchronize. So during normal operations, the change should take effect within a few

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Thinking about our python client UX

2015-03-08 Thread Tan, Lin
I agree, we need a discussion asap. I think below things can mitigate the unexpected behavior of python client and this is borrow from object model. 1. Python client should have its own version and attributes like supported api version. 2. It should be able to recognize the server's version and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Core nominations.

2015-03-08 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 07/03/15 23:16 +, Nikhil Komawar wrote: Thank you for the response, Hemanth! Those are some excellent questions. In order to avoid diverging the conversation, I would like to give my general sense of direction. Please do keep in mind that a lot of these thoughts need to be better

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron agent internal data structures

2015-03-08 Thread Leo Y
Thank you. I am looking to read this state and compare it with neutron DB. If there are agents that do it already, I would like only to learn if I can change the polling period. Can you advise about the most efficient way to learn which agent does it and which doesn't? Leonid On Sun, Mar 8, 2015

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Lets keep our community open, lets fight for it

2015-03-08 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 18/02/15 10:07 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2015, at 05:40 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 09:29:19AM -0800, Clint Byrum wrote: Excerpts from Daniel P. Berrange's message of 2015-02-17 02:37:50 -0800: On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 03:14:39PM +0100, Stefano

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] Microversions. And why do we need API extensions for new API functionality?

2015-03-08 Thread Alex Xu
Thanks for Jay point this out! If we have agreement on this and document it, that will be great for guiding developer how to add new API. I know we didn't want extension for API. But I think we still need modularity. I don't think we should put everything in a single file, that file will become

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] Do No Evil

2015-03-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/08/2015 06:34 PM, Mike Bayer wrote: Ian Wells ijw.ubu...@cack.org.uk wrote: With apologies for derailing the question, but would you care to tell us what evil you're planning on doing? I find it's always best to be informed about these things. All of us, every day, do lots of

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] How neutron calculate routing path

2015-03-08 Thread Kevin Benton
The L3 agent uses ARP and static routes like a normal router would. The L2 agent is where there might be differences depending on the network type used. If it's a tunnel overlay, the L2 agent may perform an ARP offload from information it has learned via the L2 population mechanism. On Sat, Mar

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Glance K-3 reviews.

2015-03-08 Thread Alexander Tivelkov
Thanks Nikhil, To have a single whiteboard for all the Artifacts reviews we've created an etherpad [1] Here we track the progress of all the 7 artifact-releated changesets and all the unresolved issues found there. As agreed earlier, non-critical issues (i.e. the issues which do not affect

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][tc] Lets keep our community open, lets fight for it

2015-03-08 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-03-08 08:20:31 -0430 (-0430), Flavio Percoco wrote: I'm pretty sure this was discussed already in a TC meeting, which I did not attend unfortunately. In the spite of keeoing things open - not only the issues but also the solutions found - would someone from the TC (or Stefano) mind

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Core nominations.

2015-03-08 Thread Gary Kotton
On 3/8/15, 2:34 PM, Flavio Percoco fla...@redhat.com wrote: On 07/03/15 23:16 +, Nikhil Komawar wrote: Thank you for the response, Hemanth! Those are some excellent questions. In order to avoid diverging the conversation, I would like to give my general sense of direction. Please do keep