tellan a base
service](https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572656/)
* [ongoing updates on the status of
StarlingX](http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131159.html)
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for helping to crystallize some of t
accidentally make low-activity because mature and stable look
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of anything important at the meeting (whenever the time)
then people who can't attend can be in the loop.
I was trying to attend the API meeting for a while (back when it was
happening) but had to cut it out as its impossible to pay attention
to everything and something had to give.
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I've started an etherpad for the forum session in Vancouver devoted
to discussing the possibility of tracking and allocation resources
in Cinder using the Placement service. This is not a done deal.
Instead the session is to discuss if it could work and how
iffy
for some reason (probably because I'm not wed to the restriction),
but it is well-contained.
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metrics are biased towards always committing then we are
encouraging unfettered growth which means we can never have any
sense of complete-ness or done-ness in any domains. It should be
okay to say a sub-domain of activity is done and move on to
improving the wider domain.
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*us* than making it seamless."
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We also need to be mindful
of context as well, and in the grand scheme not try for something
perfect as many often do. This *does* mean we land something that
needs to be fixed later or reverted later, but neither are things we
should fear. We can't let that fear control us.
Yes,
ght things done—rather
than context switch—and to create the necessary headspace to
consider improvements rather than doing the same thing over again.
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Add random sleep between retry calls to placement
* <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/566166/>
rework how we pass candidate request information
* <https://review.openstack.org/#/c/564876/>
add root parent NULL online migration
* <https://review.openstack.org/#/q/top
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to accept (please, let's) some form of
control plane downtime data migration issues can be vastly eased.
Getting agreement on how that might work is one of the goals of the
session.
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the content-length header)
but there isn't anything actually there.
Another option is that there are buffer size problems in the uwsgi
configuration but it's hard to speculate because it is not clear
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anything you think should be added. Also note that there's loads of
stuff in here that is exactly the same as last week. One of the main
reasons for producing this report is to ensure that stuff gets
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track of things and report on the highlights, but perhaps less
regularly. However, for the next two weeks there will be no
reporting: my brother is visiting and I'm going to take some time
off with him to walk around and think about something besides
OpenStack. I'll pick things back up in mid
people joke about
hardware defined software.)
While I don't think we need to say that we are doing one thing or
the other, we may make some decisions easier by being more willing
to identify which domain or perspective we are thinking about in any
given decision.
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Something as one stop, integrated in the documentation and official
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* advancements in capability provided by new technologies
* a potential for positive and collaborative competition between the
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repetition.
It will take effort to make these kinds of changes. We are large
enough now, and vest so much power and self-determination in the
individual projects, that it will take a lot of convincing and
orchestrating to make a significant culture change that aligns us on
common goals.
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ive in how we evaluate for alignment
with the OpenStack mission. Doing that requires fairly constant
re-evaluation of the mission and a willingness to accept that it
does (and must) change.
[1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/553643/
[2] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/new-projects-requir
Bug fixes for sharing resource providers
* https://review.openstack.org/#/c/517757/
WIP at granular in allocation candidates
* https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1760322
Fix a bug with syncing traits. It can fail, ruining the whole
service.
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satisfying nova workload placement.
I'm, quite frankly, a bit on the fence about the whole thing and would just
like to have a clear path forward so that we can start landing the 12+
patches that are queued up waiting for a decision on this.
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# More on Kolla
Also on Thursday there was [more
discussion](http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-tc/%23openstack-tc.2018-04-12.log.html#t2018-04-12T15:27:07)
on how kolla-k8s might evolve.
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* https://review.openstack.org/#/c/517757/
WIP at granular in allocation candidates
* https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1760322
Fix a bug with syncing traits. It can fail, ruining the whole
service.
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migration path. So I've added him to WSME cores.
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Python community and are not OpenStack snowflakes.
Committing to any particular framework is the same as committing to
being wrong and calcified in some fairly short amount of time.
Who wants to volunteer to help maintain WSME?
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ions) give
a pretty good overview of _some_ of the things that are on the TC's
radar for the coming months.
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On Fri, 6 Apr 2018, Chris Dent wrote:
* Eric and I discussed earlier in the week that it might be a good
time to start an #openstack-placement IRC channel, for two main
reasons: break things up so as to limit the crosstalk in the often
very busy #openstack-nova channel and to lend a bit
) Flask
extension, so things should be stable.
However: nobody is working on keeping WSME up to date. It is not a
good long term investment.
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t test for non-placement resize
* https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554357/
Address issues raised in adding member_of to GET /a-c
* https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493865/
cover migration cases with functional tests
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ought to be an interesting session.
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* https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1724613
Sharing-related bug fixes
* https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/1732731
More sharing related bug fixes
* https://review.openstack.org/#/c/493865/
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Long term it would be sweet to zuulv3 on a legit cluster, with more
tests being run than just the chunk of tempest that happens now.
If nobody else has posted something more helpful by tomorrow UTC,
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incumbents who will not be running for re-election. The office hours
discussion had some interesting things to say about what governance
is and to whom it is relevant.
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Add more functional test for placement.usage
* https://review.openstack.org/#/c/477478/
placement: Make API history doc more consistent
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Next week will be an expand. We win a prize if we can add things
without making this message longer.
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On Tue, 6 Mar 2018, Chris Dent wrote:
Last week at the PTG, during the API-SIG session, there was
discussion of extracting the microversion handling middleware that
is used in the placement service into the relatively small
microversion-parse library. This is so people who want to adopt
late April. If
you're thinking about it, but feel like you need more information
about what it might entail, please feel free to contact me. I'm sure
most of the other TC members would be happy to share their thoughts
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* https://review.openstack.org/#/c/477478/
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[Add yours here?]
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Schema generated by every project. Such API Schema is already built in memory
during API reference documentation generation and could be saved in JSON
format (for instance) (see [5]).
What do you see as the current roadblocks preventing this work from
continuing to make progress?
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How does an outside agent know what Compute has claimed? Presumably
they want to know that so they can avoid wastefully doing something
that's going to get clobbered?
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and we also happen to have a limited supply of
CI resources.
(Which is not to say that tox-siblings isn't an awesome feature. I
hadn't really known about it until today and it's a great thing.)
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having an error (which is what 500 is supposed to mean).
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these bugs, how we collaborate and merge existing logic of shared
resource provider and now being constructed logic of nested resource
provider remains one of the challenges in Rocky in my understanding.
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None of these are really complete. I think of SIGs as a way to break
down boundaries, provide forums for discussion and make progress
without worrying too much about bureaucracy. We probably don't need
to define them to death.
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Feh, that certainly didn't end up any smaller. Mostly because of
specs. Go read some specs!
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that are currently candidates for Trademark program?
There was additional discussion on Friday with people from the TC,
trademark program, heat and QA that resulted in the plan you
describe, which is being codified at:
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521602/
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See the
[etherpad](https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PTG-Dublin-TC-topics) for
additional details.
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have
discussed that when the microversion-parse library was initially
created and at the time I took a wait and see attitude. Is now the
time? I don't know.
Thanks for your attention and feedback.
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next week, but I will
endeavor to write up standalone reports of the discussions started by
that etherpad. Those discussion will hopefully grant a bit more vigor,
drive, and context to the TC Report, which has wandered a bit of late.
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the api for
aggregates handling on the placement side to accept and provide
a generation
* Check for leaked allocations in post_test_hook
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538510/
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glorious](https://crokepark.ie/meetings-events/spaces/space-listing/coiste-bainisti)
in its criminal-mastermind-wonderfulness.
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, Jay Pipes wrote:
On 02/12/2018 10:27 AM, Eric Fried wrote:
I'm interested. No date/time preference so far as long as it sticks to
Monday/Tuesday.
Same for me.
Tuesday would be best for me as Monday is api-sig day.
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https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538498/
* Check for leaked allocations in post_test_hook
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538510/
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rs), send some
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brewing. Thank you.
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a nova one for now, but
make it general enough that it is easy to add other projects) an
perhaps that will help get some traction.
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Usual caveats about missing things apply. One thing I'm curious to
know is: From an end user's perspective what does the queen's
placement work get ya?
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wiki page[1] was ambiguous and I thought it better to point out the
ambiguity and see where that took us.
Somewhere good. So that's nice.
[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/30Jan2018BoardMeeting
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Director publishes a meeting summary
That doesn't sound like transparency to me, but I assume there must be
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Today's (25th January) API-SIG meeting has been cancelled. The usual
chairs are either travelling or ill. Regular schedule will resume
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und, a lot.
But, as I've said many times, the report intentionally represents
my own interpretations and biases, in hope that someone might
respond and say a variety of things, including "WRONG!", driving
forward our dialectic.
So, thanks for responding. I owe you a cookie or somet
y of the
larger and most active projects) be more manageable and balanced. The main
challenge is that as currently constituted, the person in the PTL role
often needs to keep the state of the whole project in their head.
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who can maintain the necessary awareness of the big picture.
Might be better to start considering additional ways in which Nova
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https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533437/
Bug fix for sharing with multiple providers
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corrections.
Your prize is an invitation to do some exercising by humans.
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Thierry started the process of making it official that the naming poll
for the S cycle will [be
public](https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534226/). If you have reason
to believe this is a bad idea, please comment on the review.
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resurrect)
* Make API history doc consistent
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/477478/3
* WIP: General policy sample file for placement
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524425/
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Hi, you made it this far? Awesome. Go review some of that stuff in the
Other list!
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The gabbi-tempest plugin is responsible for getting authentication
and service catalog information (using standard tempest calls) from
keystone and creating a suite of environment variables (such as
PLACEMENT_SERVICE and COMPUTE_BASE).
I have a sample file
if you can) for these people matters. If you are eligible
("joined the OpenStack Foundation as an Individual Member by July 17,
2017") you should have received a ballot on Monday, the 8th of January.
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speed, I've
not seen everything yet. Next week will likely be more complete.
Between now and then there will probably also be some conversations on
priorities and the state of things such that we can picking what's
going to fall off the radar as we race to the end of Queens.
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I haven't done a TC Report for this week, but I have written a sort
of review of the many reports written last year. Find it at
https://anticdent.org/tc-report-2017-in-review.html
Thanks and Happy New Year.
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anging conversations are an
okay use of time.
They are. They help us develop the shared language that is critical
to developing the shared understanding that is required to establish
shared goals.
Until we crush capitalism, we work with what we've got. Happy
New Year, comr
Clearly this doesn't address migrations and such, but might be a
useful tool in a suite of tools to move the process along.
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about what they are. This thread suggests that "too many
events" is a problem, but that's only associated with cycle length
because we choose for it to be, not because it has to be.
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own directory
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at the wall, and it rolls down. Except dressed as Santa Claus.
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up to help answer them.
Turns out this was all above board, but some communication had been
dropped.
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know and I can make the addition.
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than enough here but I'm sure I've missed some
things. Feel followup with corrections.
Your prize for reading this far is that you'll get another one next
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[6] https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-wg
[7] https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/api-wg
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017, gordon chung wrote:
On 2017-11-28 11:36 AM, Chris Dent wrote:
* A somewhat bizarre presentation suggesting the Board and the TC
manage the OpenStack roadmap. There wasn't time to actually discuss
this as previous topics ran _way_ over, but at a superficial glance
ing where all representatives have an
opportunity to be present, hear, and be heard.
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matters is not so much that we talk
about any particular topic, but that we talk about any topic, so
that we develop the shared language that allows us to talk about it
more later.
Which is just a long-winded way of saying: Let's not parcel time
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This is update 42. Thanks to Eric for doing a few of these while I was
otherwise engaged. Thanks also for preserving the magical number 42.
It turns out the question for life, the universe and everything is the
rather mundane "what's up with placement?". Who knew?
I am not fully caught up on
to the public
IP address.
It appears that functionality was added in pike and backported to
ocata, but not to newton:
https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Ic996e596f8473c0b8626e8d0e92e1bf58044b4f8
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