Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-30 Thread Andrew Laski
I have written up some points on an etherpad to use during the summit session https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-cells . Please read this over if possible before the session. There is an alternate approach to this work proposed and I expect we'll spend some time discussing it. If

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-30 Thread Vineet Menon
Hi Andrew, Since you have mentioned one approach to solve the flavor meta data to driver.spawn. I want to draw your attention to this code review thread as well, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/108238/. I didn't want to edit your etherpad notes, hence this email. Regards, Vineet Menon On

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-23 Thread Tim Bell
-Original Message- From: Andrew Laski [mailto:andrew.la...@rackspace.com] Sent: 22 October 2014 21:12 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter On 10/22/2014 12:52 AM, Michael Still wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-23 Thread Andrew Laski
On 10/22/2014 08:11 PM, Sam Morrison wrote: On 23 Oct 2014, at 5:55 am, Andrew Laski andrew.la...@rackspace.com wrote: While I agree that N is a bit interesting, I have seen N=3 in production [central API]--[state/region1]--[state/region DC1] \-[state/region

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-22 Thread Vineet Menon
On 22 October 2014 06:24, Tom Fifield t...@openstack.org wrote: On 22/10/14 03:07, Andrew Laski wrote: On 10/21/2014 04:31 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: On 10/20/2014 08:00 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: One of the big goals for the Kilo cycle by users and developers of the cells functionality

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-22 Thread Dheeraj Gupta
Thanks Andrew for this (very) exhaustive list. As you have pointed out, for all the missing features (I think flavors can also be a part of that list) the community needs to decide where the info lives primarily (API or compute cells) and how it is propagated (Synced, sent with the request, asked

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Laski
On 10/22/2014 12:24 AM, Tom Fifield wrote: On 22/10/14 03:07, Andrew Laski wrote: On 10/21/2014 04:31 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: On 10/20/2014 08:00 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: One of the big goals for the Kilo cycle by users and developers of the cells functionality within Nova is to get it to a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Laski
On 10/22/2014 03:42 AM, Vineet Menon wrote: On 22 October 2014 06:24, Tom Fifield t...@openstack.org mailto:t...@openstack.org wrote: On 22/10/14 03:07, Andrew Laski wrote: On 10/21/2014 04:31 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: On 10/20/2014 08:00 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: One

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-22 Thread Andrew Laski
On 10/22/2014 12:52 AM, Michael Still wrote: Thanks for this. It would be interesting to see how much of this work you think is achievable in Kilo. How long do you see this process taking? In line with that, is it just you currently working on this? Would calling for volunteers to help be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-22 Thread Sam Morrison
On 23 Oct 2014, at 5:55 am, Andrew Laski andrew.la...@rackspace.com wrote: While I agree that N is a bit interesting, I have seen N=3 in production [central API]--[state/region1]--[state/region DC1] \-[state/region DC2] --[state/region2 DC]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-22 Thread loy wolfe
I suspect whether cell itself could ease large scale deployment across multiple DC. Although openstack is modularized as separated projects, but top level total solution across projects is needed when considering issues such as scaling, especially coordination between nova and network / metering.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-21 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 10/20/2014 08:00 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: One of the big goals for the Kilo cycle by users and developers of the cells functionality within Nova is to get it to a point where it can be considered a first class citizen of Nova. Ultimately I think this comes down to getting it tested by

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-21 Thread Belmiro Moreira
Hi, to help the discussion, a small compilation about the bugs and previous attempts to fix the missing functionality in cells. Aggregates https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1161208 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/cells-aggregate-support https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25813/

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-21 Thread Andrew Laski
On 10/21/2014 04:31 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: On 10/20/2014 08:00 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: One of the big goals for the Kilo cycle by users and developers of the cells functionality within Nova is to get it to a point where it can be considered a first class citizen of Nova. Ultimately I think

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-21 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message - From: Andrew Laski andrew.la...@rackspace.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org One of the big goals for the Kilo cycle by users and developers of the cells functionality within Nova is to get it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-21 Thread Tom Fifield
On 22/10/14 03:07, Andrew Laski wrote: On 10/21/2014 04:31 AM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: On 10/20/2014 08:00 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: One of the big goals for the Kilo cycle by users and developers of the cells functionality within Nova is to get it to a point where it can be considered a first

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-21 Thread Michael Still
Thanks for this. It would be interesting to see how much of this work you think is achievable in Kilo. How long do you see this process taking? In line with that, is it just you currently working on this? Would calling for volunteers to help be meaningful? Michael On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 5:00

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-20 Thread Mathieu Gagné
On 2014-10-20 2:00 PM, Andrew Laski wrote: One of the big goals for the Kilo cycle by users and developers of the cells functionality within Nova is to get it to a point where it can be considered a first class citizen of Nova. [...] Shortcomings: Flavor syncing This needs to be

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Cells conversation starter

2014-10-20 Thread Belmiro Moreira
Hi Andrew, great that you have started the “cells” discussion. Looking forward to see cells as default setup in Kilo. The feature gap is really painful for current cells users. We are looking into these features for some time and the main concern is really where these concepts should live.