Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

Fox, Kevin M wrote: [...] Part of the disconnect to me has been that these questions have been left up to the projects by and large. But, users don't use the projects. Users use OpenStack. Or, moving forward, they at least use a Constellation. But Constellation is still just a documentation

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

On 5/11/2018 2:00 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: Currently the isolation between the Projects and the thing that the users use, the Constellation allows for user needs to easily slip through the cracks. Cause "Project X: we agree that is a problem, but its Y projects problem. Project Y: we agree

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

ship please! Ready. GO! :) > > Thanks, > Kevin > > > From: Jay Pipes [jaypi...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:31 AM > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:31 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver On 05/11/2018 12:21 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 11/05/18 11:46, Jay Pipes wrote: On 05/10/2018 08:12 PM, Zane Bitter wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

ady. GO! :) Thanks, Kevin From: Jay Pipes [jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 9:31 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver On 05/11/2018 12:21 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: > On 11/05/18 11:46, Jay Pipes

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

On 05/11/2018 12:21 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 11/05/18 11:46, Jay Pipes wrote: On 05/10/2018 08:12 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 10/05/18 16:45, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 5/10/2018 3:38 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: How can we avoid (or get out of) the local maximum trap and ensure that OpenStack will

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

On 11/05/18 11:46, Jay Pipes wrote: On 05/10/2018 08:12 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 10/05/18 16:45, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 5/10/2018 3:38 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: How can we avoid (or get out of) the local maximum trap and ensure that OpenStack will meet the needs of all the users we want to

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

On 05/10/2018 08:12 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 10/05/18 16:45, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 5/10/2018 3:38 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: How can we avoid (or get out of) the local maximum trap and ensure that OpenStack will meet the needs of all the users we want to serve, not just those whose needs are

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

Zane Bitter wrote: > [...] > How can we avoid (or get out of) the local maximum trap and ensure that > OpenStack will meet the needs of all the users we want to serve, not > just those whose needs are similar to those of the users we already have? It'a a good question, and a topic I raised a

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

On 10/05/18 16:52, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2018-05-10 16:38:37 -0400: On 17/04/18 05:24, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, As you know the Technical Committee (the governance body representing contributors producing OpenStack software) meets with other

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

On 10/05/18 16:45, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 5/10/2018 3:38 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: How can we avoid (or get out of) the local maximum trap and ensure that OpenStack will meet the needs of all the users we want to serve, not just those whose needs are similar to those of the users we already

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

Excerpts from Zane Bitter's message of 2018-05-10 16:38:37 -0400: > On 17/04/18 05:24, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > As you know the Technical Committee (the governance body representing > > contributors producing OpenStack software) meets with other OpenStack > > governance

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

On 5/10/2018 3:38 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: How can we avoid (or get out of) the local maximum trap and ensure that OpenStack will meet the needs of all the users we want to serve, not just those whose needs are similar to those of the users we already have? The phrase "jack of all trades,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

On 17/04/18 05:24, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, As you know the Technical Committee (the governance body representing contributors producing OpenStack software) meets with other OpenStack governance bodies (Board of Directors and User Committee) on the Sunday before every Summit, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

Doug Hellmann wrote: > Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-04-23 15:36:32 +0100: >> I think as an add on to this, would to ask the board to talk to members >> and see what contributions they have made to the technical side of >> OpenStack. >> >> This should not just be Number of commits /

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

On 2018-04-23 15:36:32 +0100 (+0100), Graham Hayes wrote: > I think as an add on to this, would to ask the board to talk to members > and see what contributions they have made to the technical side of > OpenStack. > > This should not just be Number of commits / reviews / bugs etc but > also the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

Excerpts from Graham Hayes's message of 2018-04-23 15:36:32 +0100: > On 18/04/18 11:38, Chris Dent wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > > >> So... Is there any specific topic you think we should cover in that > >> meeting ? > > > > The topics: > > > > 1. What are we to do,

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

big +1 to Graham's suggestion On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:36 PM, Graham Hayes wrote: > On 18/04/18 11:38, Chris Dent wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > > >> So... Is there any specific topic you think we should cover in that > >> meeting ? > > > > The topics:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

On 18/04/18 11:38, Chris Dent wrote: > On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Thierry Carrez wrote: > >> So... Is there any specific topic you think we should cover in that >> meeting ? > > The topics: > > 1. What are we to do, as a community, when external pressures for > results are not matched by contribution

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Topics for the Board+TC+UC meeting in Vancouver

On Tue, 17 Apr 2018, Thierry Carrez wrote: So... Is there any specific topic you think we should cover in that meeting ? I'll bite. I've got two topics that I think are pretty critical to address with the various segments of the community that are the source of code commits and reviews.